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Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?

gisevak:
You're still a students, I presumed. I don't think I would want to talk with you back and forward. Go through my posts and provide answers to those questions. Please don't quote me again until you do so. I don't do half bake knowledge If you can't answer them tell me straight otherwise I might note reply after this. Good night!!! Lecture ends

The only illiterate here is you that thinks people "believe" in law of thermodynamics.

You are still an enslaved theist hiding under agnosticism, you lack knowledge of what you are, you are just doing follow follow around.
Here read about agnosticism and cure your ignorance.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/#toc

gisevak:
Can you provide answers to some of the questions I asked and i would reply you concerning, "definition of atheism".

After you provide answers to some of the questions I have been asking you SINCE

You have been dodging it.

gisevak:
On what contexts This is fallacy of comparison!!!

Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?

gisevak:
What can you describe about your atheism?

Define "atheism"

I think that's where your ignorance started and you said you were once an atheist or is it just a lie to promote your supernatural beliefs while hiding under agnosticism.

gisevak:
On what context are you saying Tom and Jerry does not exist. Is it name Tom and Jerry or cat and rats name Tom and Jerry? They may exists depending on the contexts.

This is illogical, Names don't exist, what's the shape of the name "bayo"?


Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?

gisevak:
Are you part of atheist that says there is no god??

Define "atheism"

I have asked so many times lol

gisevak:
I am saying we don't have proof to reject existence of gods? Or do you have proofs?

Prove we don't have proof that Gods don't exist.

If you lack knowledge, don't extend it to others.

Do you have sufficient proof that Tom and Jerry don't exist?
Are you Agnostic to it too?

gisevak:
I am describing our views but you're rejecting. His views is not same as mine. Period!!!

Then you need to find another phrase to define your beliefs.
Agnosticism was coined by huxley and he has define it.
Period!

gisevak:
Does your scientists claim they have evidence to reject existence of gods?

Scientists don't deal with beliefs you will know that if you know what "atheism" is.

Do you have enough evidence to reject tom and jerry exist?
Are you Agnostic about it too?

gisevak:
Why should gods want me to worship its/him/her? What facts says we should worship gods outside the Religious Book. The definition doesn't capture majority of agnostic.

Theism deals with belief and faith.
Everything about gods is from religious books.

It perfectly captures theist sympathizers calling themselves Agnostic.
The definition is from the person that coined the word.

gisevak:
What if I tell you we don't have enough facts to rejects or accept But there is more facts to accept than to reject. We don't have enough facts because we lack in capacity to know. Have you been able to give me full evidence about how life started with facts?

prove we don't have enough evidence.
If you lack knowledge on something, keep it to yourself, don't try to extend your ignorance to other people.

Think, if this god created life that means he is lifeless lol
And how can a lifeless thing create that which has life?

gisevak:
I have given what best described us. Not the one you put up here.

The definition is from the person that coined the word "agnosticism", I don't think you even know him, you are just carrying the title and forming definitions lol.

It is also worth mentioning that, even in Huxley’s time, some apophatic theists embraced the term “agnostic”, claiming that all good Christians worshipped an “unknown God”.

gisevak:
I have given you one of the points for agnosticism. We don'tst have enough knowledge to reject gods existence or any related stuffs. It's not a belief system because we are not dog matic about views. We don't take science as the only authority in our views. We don't know all about our universe. We seek to know more.

Agnostics are theist sympathizers, how do you know there is no enough evidence?

Agnostic are dogmatic, you have already accepted the position that Gods exist.

Kobojunkie:
You mean your god is aking an announcement tomorrow? Why should we who see him for the thief ---- who comes to steal, to kill and destroy ---- that he is, care?

Did the OP tag you?
You are a nobody, Who cares if you care?

gisevak:
Let me put this straight to that:
Agnostics does not have believe in any known gods because those gods does not need our believe; But we do not claim certainty about their nonexistence because we don't have enough facts to rejects its existence.

I call agnostics, theist sympathizers.

"Nowadays, the term “agnostic” is often used (when the issue is God’s existence) to refer to those who follow the recommendation expressed in the conclusion of Huxley’s argument: an agnostic is a person who has entertained the proposition that there is a God but believes neither that it is true nor that it is false.

gisevak:
Let me put this straight to that:
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Agnostics does not have believe in any known gods because thonose gods does not need our believe; But we do not claim certainty about their becgodause we don't have enough facts to rejects its existence.

How do you know those gods don't need your beliefs, is that not another belief in itself.

Again, an agnostics is someone that belives the position of agnosticism.

gisevak:
Tell me about your findings that made you change your views to atheism. Is it the Abrahamic Religion? Is it those Scriptures contradictions or illogical concept of hellfire?? But there are more to this Don't just limit yourknoledge to atheism. It is more logical to be agnostic than atheism.

What do you understand by "atheism"?

An agnostics is someone that belives the position of agnosticism.
Agnostic means you lack knowledge, the opposite is Gnostic which is more reasonable.

gisevak:
State second law of thermodynamic. And I would explain how class A extends B from it.

States the law of thermodynamics, let's see his relation to A extends B.
Also show me where you got your definition of "physical laws'
when you were an atheist, wat did you believe]

gisevak:
The formation of the Earth is a fascinating area of study in planet science and cosmology. Scientists have developed well-supported theories and hypotheses about Earth's formation based on extensive research and evidence. And you can still give your view in a summarized way on how earth is formed.
I[b] don't know[/b], so throw more enlightenment on it.

Go look up scientists that are vast in it for enlightenment.

gisevak:
But do you know it a belief system to actually disbelieved and still keeps to it?

Same way you hold a belief system that jaephoenix is not sitting on your shoulder right now, why do you disbelieve?

gisevak:
How does the Earth form? Give your theory or you don't have any

This is illiteracy, I should explain how earth form on nairaland,do you think it is a groudnut discussion 😂

gisevak:
Let take you into programming; Did you know about inheritance in java? For example class A extends class B, we can say that A is B. Therefore the law of thermodynamic is one of the rules of nature. Prove it that it's not

States the law of thermodynamics, let's see his relation to A extends B.

When you were an atheist, wat did you believe

gisevak:
Very good contradiction about your beliefs system. That means you don't believed in the law of thermodynamic I thought science holds basis of atheistic views. It seems now you're saying otherwise.

When you were an atheist did you believe in the law of thermodynamics?

The big bang theory was formulated by a catholic priest. most noble prize winners are theist.

You are empty theist.

gisevak:
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I don't think you have idea of why you become atheist. You could not even give answers to some simple questions been asked. Are you doing follow follow just like one-eyed man leading the blind I was once an atheist before I changed my perspective. Atheism doesn't make you more woke than others. The world or universe is complex, see it in different angles yourself. Do you know scientists has limited knowledge about what goes on under the ocean or waters?

Theist, we can now see your ignorance in full glare hiding under religion yet pretending.
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I asked you a more simple question, why do rain fall. And you became empty. you are desperate for anything"supernatural", instead of you to use your brain to solve a problem you call it "supernatural".

You were never an atheist, you lack the definition of what atheism is.

Scientists are humans like you, using their brain to know more about nature and not settling for beliefs in the name of supernatural, you are just there to castigate scientist and call what you lack knowledge on "supernatural".], after you call it "supernatural' you stop thinking, that's why europeans are different from africans.

gisevak:
Physical laws are rules that describe the behavior of the physical universe. For example the Second Law of Thermodynamics
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where did you get this definition?
Second law of thermodynamics is just an observation of nature by an observer, nature does not obey the law of thermodynamics.

Kobojunkie:
What does that mean?
Again, Let me guess.... prostitution also started from your Bible? *** rolls eyes***

No it started from "scriptures" 😂😂

gisevak:
You are a student. Keep reading your logic and science books to learn about a much larger and more complex world. Your belief is dogmatic. There are more of them in the world. It sounds like you are new to atheism.

You are the one that's dogmatic, look up the meaning of the word.
They have indoctrinated you with ignorance in form of supernatural.
Anything you as an observer lack knowledge on is automatically"supernatural".
You are obsessed with it.

It sounds like you don't even know the definition of atheism.

gisevak:
I know!!! Can you clearly explain the origin of physical laws? that is one of the questions i[b][/b] asked you..

Define physical laws.

gisevak:
Ok, I don't know!!!
Can you provide answers to my questions now?

It has no purpose.

You are a nobody, I don't own you answers.

gisevak:
provide answers to my questions since you claim to know all

Stop lying, I never claim to know all.

I will answer your question, when you tell me the purpose of rain and nature.

gisevak:
Does scientist use experiments?

Can you provide a clear account of the origin and nature of the laws of physics?

Physics LITERALLY means Nature.
"Laws of physics" are just our observation of how nature works, nature does not work on laws of physics.

gisevak:
Ok, Rain falls as a result of a natural meteorological process called the water cycle.
Can you answer all my questions now?

Read very well, WHY do rain fall, what is the purpose.

And you still went back to NATURE again, what is the purpose of natural meteorological process called water cycle?

What is the purpose of nature?