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gisevak:
So, NASA told you it happened billions of years? What proofs did they carry out that make it that time? How can you tell me about things that happened billions of years with no eye witnesses and the rest. And you believed Smh!!!

According to you.

"important to understand that the absence of evidence for something doesn't necessarily prove its nonexistence."

jaephoenix:
The bible is a poorly written fiction. Unfortunately some people took it way too serious, causing problems in the world

The people that wrote it knew they were writing fictions, how these modern people think a donkey can talk is what is baffling.

MSN1:
Good day house, please ever since I heard this Arabic word; ALHAMDULILAH, I just developed a very good love for it; Both it's meaning and the word are not bad to me.
I Know that Allah means God in English.
Ok house, is it bad for a Christian to be using ALHAMDULILAH?

Christians in Arab countries call god, Allah.
When jesus was alive in the NT, he prayed to Elahi, an aramaic version of Allah, in Hebrew it is called Elohim, means same thing.

The allegory use of donkeys is common in middle east mythologies.

SarcasticWords:
I have already done that. I understand that this topic is one that irks people and from your latest response, you are obviously getting irked. so let's end it here please.
y.

you killed innocent children in the name of disobedience and you are saying it irks me,as a loving father why will you put your children In danger?
Your child is dead, is that not irking you?

If a child fails a test, you do it again for him, but you can't for a dead child, your test is extreme, barbaric and Inhumane. SarcasticWords

SarcasticWords:
I have already done that. I understand that this topic is one that irks people and from your latest response, you are obviously getting irked. so let's end it here please.

Why God placed the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden in the first place will forever remain an enigma to some but to others the reason is crystal clear.

Have a nice day.

You didn't, you asked a question if you were a loving father.
You intentionally cut the brakes, you still didn't tell your children that you cut the brakes but gave a vague warning.
SarcasticWords will the record of their death show "disobedience" or murder by brake tampering lol

Your Christian god yahweh claims to be omniscience and this same yahweh created adam and eve with all their desires and flaws, if you think your car accident logic is related you are deluded.

The books you are basing your life on are jewish stories that are ALLEGORY.

Good day, yahweh worshipper

SarcasticWords:
Thanks for the input bro.

why didn't you tell your children on the dangers of failed break as a loving and caring father.

SarcasticWords:
Oh, I can see we've reached a dead end.

Like I said I appreciate your thoughts, thanks for sharing.

Before we end it,can you state how you are a loving and caring father

SarcasticWords:
I intentionally removed the brakes (creating trouble)

Then told them not to drive it or it would kill them ( saving them from trouble)

I am innocent.

People are only focusing on the former and not the latter. People are not opening up to the fact that my children, despite other cars I gave them, were not satisfied. They lacked appreciation and contentment and choosed to still drive the very car I warned would lead to their death.

Yes you are right, it was disobedience that killed them not the fact that you lntentionally cut the brakes, the rule of law will defend you.
You are such a loving and caring father, your dead disobedient children will be proud.
SarcasticWords

SarcasticWords:
Okay, now you agree they were disobedient.

But take note that it wasn't I who killed them.

I pointed to the car and told them straight up that if they drive it, it will kill them. I kept it there. The stranger didn't keep it there. They should have listened and trusted the person that kept it. But they choosed to disobey and their disobedience killed them.

Do you see it now, I didm.

Yes it was disobedience that killed them not the fact that you lntentionally cut the brakes, the rule of law will defend you against your dead disobedient children

SarcasticWords:
But if I do something dangerous and I warn my children that, that thing will kill you if you engage with it, Am I still a murderer

yes you are allowed to kill your disobedient child. Next time use food poisoning to test them, benz is expensive

SarcasticWords:
I understand the craving seems abit unnatural, but every father desires loyalty, obedience and submission from their kids. I also believe I earned it by giving them other cars to drive. They had a variety to choose from. It's not like I put only one car in the compound.

If I warned them that the car will kill them, have I intentionally killed them or saved them from trouble?

Why are people focusing on the fact that I removed the brakes and ignoring the fact that I did warn them that the car will kill them?

Why aren't people focusing on the fact that my children didn't trust or believe me their own father?

Loyalty and your cravings are earned, why did you have to cut the brakes?
If you didn't cut the brakes,how will the car kill them

burp18:
Isn't that the whole essence of this thread? To check if they're obidient to him.

And the only way to check is to cut the brakes Nd kill them, he is a murderer

burp18:
They're dead because they refused to obey him. They'd still be alive if they'd obeyed his instructions. It's that simple. You can't see something that'll kill you and you decide to walk right into it. That's not a very smart thing to do

the children are dead because he Intentionally cut the brakes because of his selfish reason, why didn't he tell them?
There are better ways to test your children, because your child disobey you doesn't mean he deserves death. That's very dumb

burp18:
What did you mean you prefer a disobedient kid to a dead one? A disobedient kid is more likely to get into trouble than an obidient one.

.the op children are dead. You can't have dead obedient children. He is a Murderer.

burp18:
So you tell the child. Don't go near the fire or else you'll get burned. Then out of curiosity, what you think is woke, the child decides to go near the fire and as a expected, hurts himself. How is the father responsible for it?

why didn't op tell his children he intentionally cut the brakes and explain to the children the dangers of a brake not working?
Thats what a loving and caring father will do

sonmvayina:
When was the codex sinaticus written?

who are the people arguing mention them also look up what "codex"mean

SarcasticWords:
A vital lesson to my future children that actions has consequences. Obedience to rules or laws are very important. Disobedience can cost you your life.

.your actions too for intentionally killing your child because of cravings will also have consequences

burp18:
He knew they'd get into an accident because he knew the breaks were cut. But theyd rather listen to an outsider over their father. Are you saying you'd rather have kids who are disobedient to you?

He was the one that cut the brakes,he also knew that the children will likely disobey him and he tested them because of his selfish cravings.
He is a murderer.. I prefer disobedient kids to dead kids, seems you like the opposite

SarcasticWords:
Okay, I appreciate your thoughts. But why is all the blame on me?

What about my children? They literally choosed to drive a car that they've been told will kill them. That's a lack of intelligence on their part.

They listened to a stranger that they've never met and trusted his words. They had other cars to drive but choosed to drive the one I told them not to drive.

Actions have consequences. Unfortunately they had to learn that the hard way.

You killed your child because of cravings, what is your gain now?

burp18:
kids rebelling against you and questioning your every instruction is not wisdom. It is what a rude and not properly raised kid woould do.

if I stop my kids from getting wisdom and thinking for themselves they have a right to rebel

burp18:
It's dumb. Curiosity and questioning everything is not smart. It's like warning a child on the dangers of playing with fire, and the child still decides to play with it.

is like telling a child that education is bad and if he attains it he will die.
Wisdom is more important than bread/fruits

burp18:
What's wisdom and knowledge in deliberately disobeying simple instructions? That to me is rebellion.

Wisdom and knowledge to not remain a slave and serving other people.

burp18:
When you look at it carefully. He's neither right nor wrong. It could be anyone, maybe an outsider put out the warning but they'd still refused to heed. Take Adam and Eve for example, They could every fruit from every tree but one. And they still defied

they ate the fruits of wisdom and knowledge, you want them to remain in ignorance and eating fruits for pleasure?

SarcasticWords:
So you agree with those that claim I am wicked?

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You killed your child because of your selfish craving for submission but you are more concerned that people are calling you wicked.
Now you have lost the child, who are you going to test next to fulfill your cravings?

SarcasticWords:
So you agree with those that claim I am wicked?

This wickedness is as a result of lack of intelligence, there are better ways to test your CHILDREN.
also you can't crave loyalty or obedience to reality, you have to earn it.

Why didn't you tell your CHILDREN that you removed the brakes from the Benz since you know they are likely to disobey you?
And are you omniscience?

What you did is a crminal offence

For more references.
https://www.nairaland.com/7794656/ecstatic-utterances

sonmvayina:
Then why would they be arguing if they had the gospels ?

When was the codex sinaticus written ?

even till now we have churches with different Doctrines.
Who are the people arguing, mention them.

Kobojunkie:
This is all of the imaginations of men and absolutely nothing of the Truth of God. What scripture refers to as the great tribulation happened over 1900 years ago as God said it would beginning in Deuteronomy 28 vs 15 - 57. What you call the rapture is instead an event which takes place towards the end of Jesus Christ's 1000 years reign here on earth.

You are no different and as deluded as the people you castigate, all what you wrote is a doctrine called dispensationalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvsjMuHkGBc

Triplechoice, read this article to know how argument works, he went to the root word and history of those phrases and showed how the word evolve to the modern definition you have in your dictionary, to understand any word, you need go to the etymology of the words not modern dictionary.

This is the part I like most in the article.

"Science literally means "knowledge, learning, application,” and is derived from the root word scire, which means "to know."

Is this in your modern dictionary?

What is the root word of "god" that you are agnostic to?

[ quote author=gisevak post=125691761]
Let take you into programming; Did you know about inheritance in java? For example class A extends class B, we can say that A is B. Therefore the law of thermodynamic is one of the rules of nature. Prove it that it's not[/quote]States the law of thermodynamics, let's see his relation to A extends B in java programming.
Define 'physical laws' and show where you read it.
Do you have sufficient proof and evidence to reject the existence of tom and jerry .m
Define atheism and how the basis of atheism is science.

Cc gisevak