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Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 8:18pm On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
You should be so lucky

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
What a life 😂
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 8:17pm On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
Herod is the name of one person without a known last name or surname before his children adopted this his only known name as a title, just as the name Caesar, was used by Roman emperors after him

We are speaking the same language, as you're fuelled and propelled by your own religion

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
In those days, only a name is used and it's herod.

Caesar is not a family name. It's a title.

Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 7:55pm On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
1. Are you refuting that 'synoptic, simply means summary' then?
2. According to your best understanding define, synoptic

Kk, if you cant be bothered to answer the two questions reproduced above from my last post, then kindly state exactly and describe clearly what the meaning of synoptic gospels means then

You havent a Scooby Doo idea what religion that is without flaws and such that God finds no fault in.

Yes, unbeknownst to you, you have a religion, and your religion, is allowing you to use your precious and valuable free time to be used up for getting up to mischief, posting ungodly posts et cetera

So? And then? Why not, go file a lawsuit and sue them for plagiarism. Hmm?

Why dont I come across as surprised that a considerable proportions of Jews of some sort, read Matthew, and conclude that it's hogwash

Considering the fact, there exists Messianic Jews, who read Matthews and dont know nor see it as hogwash, you surely, now must admit that you're over stretching the truth that 'any Jew that has read Matthew, will know that it's hogwash'

Beloved this is the Herod dynasty under discussion here, isnt it?
So what's the point you want to make with, asking me a 'How many Herod was king of Judea?' unexpected question. Hmm?

I reiterate my earlier humble request, that, you be specific. Be specific about stating, what time and who in relation to, that you want to know who the king of Judea was then

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Jargons.

Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 7:54pm On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
Beloved, calm down, calm down. Calm down
Wtf, where's the faith, when a distressed brother needs one

They are titles, arent they though. I rest my case

Hmm. Kk now, why not take Caesar for size then.
I know you're smart and clever enough to know what I've done just there

What sort of bee sef, is it, you have there inside your bonnet?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Herod is a name of a family. Is your surname a title?

You are just deluding yourself, shows what religion can do
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 6:22pm On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:

Essentially you're confirming what I'd already advanced, that the word Herod, is a title name, just as we have President, Prime Minister, King, Governor, Taoiseach, First Minister et cetera


Wtf, prime minister is not a family name, first minster is not a family name. King is not a family name.

Herod is a name of a family, who else was not in Herod family that bear the name as a title?
Is your surname a title?

Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 6:20pm On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
Empty on what topic?

1. Are you refuting that 'synoptic, simply means summary' then?
2. According to your best understanding define, synoptic

Reading each of the first four books in the New Testament in isolation of each other, deprives one of getting a 3-D holistic grasp of the gospel truth, as it tantamount to viewing from one perspective

Having the best time of my life. Delusion isnt on my list nor radar

You have to be specific.
Be specific about saying, what time and who in relation to, that you want to know who the king of Judea was

Do you now concede that you're all over the place and changing subjects a lot without reason. I've lost count how many times you've flip-flopped on subject matters.

What really is the bane of your life? Whats this your anxiety all about?

I said, synoptic gospels, and it's like religion is not allowing you to free your mind?
MARK is the first Gospel to be written, the unknown authors of Matthew and Luke used MARK to write their story, they literally COPIED IT.

any Jew that has read Matthew, will know that it's hogwash


How many Herod was king of Judea?

Religion / Re: Evolution Vs Creation: If Man Came From Monkeys, Where Did Monkeys Come From? by Maynman: 3:06pm On Dec 10, 2023
kkins25:


When naija Christian man hear influence, he thinks its about doing daddy my father in the lord.. 😁
I tire
Religion / Re: Evolution Vs Creation: If Man Came From Monkeys, Where Did Monkeys Come From? by Maynman: 3:06pm On Dec 10, 2023
Johnycastro18:
How is faraday solving his work without using speed of light?

With the idea of ole roemer works offcourse who made the discovery's of light travel and measurement....

AND Certainly not with the idea of evolution or the big bang theory, as that is what this argument is premise upon.







Ok
Religion / Re: Evolution Vs Creation: If Man Came From Monkeys, Where Did Monkeys Come From? by Maynman: 2:13pm On Dec 10, 2023
Johnycastro18:
George and Charles Darwin never influenced those three Scientists That i mentioned above for the records.

As for George lamaitre been a catholic Priest and also Been the brain behind the big bang theory, its still changes nothing....

LIKE I said every scientist is entitle to his/her own opinion on whatsoever theory he/she wants to Believe.

I hope you do know also, that some world acclaimed scientists do not Support this theorys By George and Charles DARWIN till date ?

So, me not accepting the theory's of those two scientist mentioned above Doesn't mean am against Science or Whatever it stand for as you were there to potray earlier.

ITS A FREE WORLD TO CHOOSE WHAT IDEA TO BELIEVE OR NOT TOO.






How is faraday solving his work without using speed of light?


It's a free world but unfortunately it has been destroyed with beliefs

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Religion / Re: Evolution Vs Creation: If Man Came From Monkeys, Where Did Monkeys Come From? by Maynman: 1:24pm On Dec 10, 2023
Johnycastro18:
what are you even saying?

As far back as i could remeber, The big bang theory was postulated by George Lemaitre around 1927,

Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution existed around the 1800's

So how do this scientists mention above(George and Charles Darwin) with there supposed theories influence the supposed list of scientist you just posted oga?
It has everything to do with it.
Do you think George Lemaitre, a Catholic priest and George Darwin just woke up and formed their theory?
Science is saying the same thing.

Christian scientists such as Michael faraday, blaise pascal and Gregor Mendel"
https://www.rosicrucian.org/history

Religion / Re: Evolution Vs Creation: If Man Came From Monkeys, Where Did Monkeys Come From? by Maynman: 12:54pm On Dec 10, 2023
Johnycastro18:
so for your mind you don't drop quote abi, grin

For your information i am not against science, as a matter of fact many Christian scientists such as Michael faraday, blaise pascal and Gregor Mendel who is widely regarded today as the father of genetics have contributed to our understanding of things which we do know and use today.

But for one other scientist hiding under the guise of been a scientists to be proposing ideas, as stupid as it sound...that "man evolve from apes" or "apes and man are of common ancestors or whatever he Darwin thinks.....

That those not mean everyone one would swallow such in the name of science.
You are free too accept such theory if you wish too

It is not in your place to decide for others.

Do you think if the the big bang and evolution didn't happen there will be all this scientists with their inventions?
"Christian scientists such as Michael faraday, blaise pascal and Gregor Mendel"
https://www.rosicrucian.org/history

Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 9:43am On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
If being honest with you, you're ranting and raving over nothing.
I am running late going out, so I'll have to revert in a few hours time when back to put straight and lay justice.
For now, know that Herod isnt a name, its a title, and akin to saying, president, (i.e. which president) go figure the rest
you are the one that's empty on this topic, ordinarily synoptic you don't know.

When you are done deluding yourself, you'll tell me who the KING of Judea was.
HEROD is the The name of the family of political rulers over the Jews.

Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 9:27am On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:


On the surface, it seemingly looks like two different stories, but really isnt case of two different stories

Yes, there is

Jesus was not limited to 12 disciples, as He actually had hundreds of disciples

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
They are different stories, Herod was DEAD TEN YEARS before the census, can you explain how they are same?
And why did Jesus go to Egypt?

Jesus had 12 discples that he appointed out of his other discples.
When other discples left him after telling them they will eat and drink his flesh and blood, it was only the 12 discples that he INTENTIONALLY chose that remained.

John 6:70
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 9:24am On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
Synoptic, simply means summary, now, as earlier advanced, Matthew was directed to the Jew aka Hebrew audience, Mark was written for the Romans audience in mind, Luke was designed to address the Greeks, while John's narrative, however, was targeted at an international world wide or cosmopolitan audience

What point are you trying to make with all this darting up and down the place




That's not what synoptic gospels mean, MARK is the first Gospel to be written, the unknown authors of Matthew and Luke used MARK to write their story, they literally COPIED IT.

any Jew that has read Matthew, will know that it's hogwash.
John was a book that was used by the Gnostics, hence "logos".

Have knowledge on the books you are basing your life on FIRST.

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Religion / Re: Evolution Vs Creation: If Man Came From Monkeys, Where Did Monkeys Come From? by Maynman: 8:39am On Dec 10, 2023
Johnycastro18:
Scientists in trying to cover up the fact that God exist.
manufactured all sort of rubbish theory's.....

from the big bang theory to the evolution theory of Charles Darwin,(who by the way repented of his claim before his death).
Imagine if everyone has this indoctrinated mentality.

People like you are busy fasting and praying for divine healing while people like Charles Darwin were busy looking for the cure for SCD.

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Sports / Re: The NBA Begins by Maynman: 8:27am On Dec 10, 2023
Religion / Re: Believe His Word by Maynman: 8:24am On Dec 10, 2023
What is his word?
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 3:54am On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
Re: "Water Baptism Is A Useless Practice" Says Pastor Abel Damina by NNTR: 3:22am On Nov 05, 2021
https://www.nairaland.com/6835123/water-baptism-useless-practice-says#107341647


Even in that Luke, it was after the baptism that he got the holy spirit and started his mission at age 30.


Luke 3:21
When all the people were baptized, it came to pass that Jesus also was baptized; and while He prayed, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

Jesus got the holy spirit after the baptism, that same spirit that descended on him took him to the wilderness where he was taught for 40 days and night, before the baptism, no spirit descended on him and was not called son of man, that's why Jesus baptism is present in ALL gospel, Jesus virgin birth is later formulated story.
Religion / Re: What Language Did Adam And Eve Speak? by Maynman: 3:49am On Dec 10, 2023
Lawag3:


You know your problem? You like to forget God is the God of everybody he is not of this Earth so he can't be called a middle Eastern God. He is the true God and you can do nothing about it.
You think you see clearly but you're so blind. You think you have knowledge, but you're very ignorant.

You know your problem, you re worshipping the isrealite god who was made a national god by the isrealites and was developed into your Christian god.
You are worshipping Yahweh because of ignorance, your brain is shut down to reason, if you don't start using your brain, you'll worship yahweh till you die.
You are very empty like your creator, yahweh.
https://minervawisdom.com/2022/01/24/how-yahweh-became-god-the-war-god-thesis/

Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 3:36am On Dec 10, 2023
NNTR:
You're all over the place

Each of the gospels are tailored for different captive audiences and coming from different perspectives and/or angles. Whatever is not captured from one angle, not covered or seen from one perspective, will be captured, covered and seen from another by one or more of the other gospels from different angles or perspectives

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
You are the one all over the place, MARK is the basis of Luke and Matthew, that's why it's called synoptic gospel.


So explain how is Jesus captured in book of Matthew when he went to stay in Egypt because of Herod and balance it with the book of luke where that isn't mention.
When was Herod time? When was the census conducted?
Is Jesus parents from Nazareth or Bethelem?

Is like you didn't know that Matthew and Luke are 2 different stories about Jesus birth.

There's a reason the only story about Jesus childhood was when he was AGE 12.
He has 12 discples, the house of Israel is 12, Jews have 12 hours, we have 12 star signs.

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Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 11:48pm On Dec 09, 2023
NNTR:


Reproduce where I used 'baptized in water'. Jesus didnt use baptise and neither did I

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.



Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 11:46pm On Dec 09, 2023
NNTR:
John 3:5
Jesus answered,
“I assure you and most solemnly say to you,
unless one is born of water and the Spirit
he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God.


When a baby is ready to be born, the amniotic sac, which surrounds the baby and contains amniotic fluid, breaks and the fluid comes out through the vjay. This is whats referred to as waters breaking, and ultimately leading to the baby be born of water.

Now essentially, its takes a human born of water to see, appreciate and acknowledge the power of the Kingdom, while it takes to be born of water and be born again (i.e. a fundamental change brought on from born by the Spirit) to enter into the kingdom. It basically is a paradigm shift

Reproduce where I used 'baptized in water'. Jesus didnt use baptise and neither did I

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.



Baptising Is use of water, baptize means dipping.
Jesus and his discples also did baptism, to the extent that more people came to Jesus for baptism.

Nicodemus was already born, he can't go back to womb.

And please water breaking does not mean be born of water, you are born of the womb.

Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 11:41pm On Dec 09, 2023
NNTR:
Luke 2:39-52
39And when they had done everything [in connection with Jesus’ birth] according to the Law of the Lord, they went back to Galilee, to their own city, Nazareth.
40And the Child continued to grow and become strong [in spirit], filled with wisdom; and the grace (favor, spiritual blessing) of God was upon Him.
41Now His parents went to Jerusalem every year for the Passover Feast.
42And when He was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem, according to the custom of the Feast;
43and as they were returning [to Nazareth], after spending the required number of days [at the Feast], the boy Jesus remained behind in Jerusalem. Now His parents did not know this,
44but supposed Him to be in the caravan, and traveled a day’s journey; and [then] they began searching [anxiously] for Him among their relatives and acquaintances.
45When they did not find Him, they went back to Jerusalem looking for Him [everywhere].
46Three days later they found Him in the [court of the] temple, sitting among the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions.
47All who heard Him were amazed by His intelligence and His understanding and His answers.
48When they saw Him, they were overwhelmed; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You treated us like this? Listen, Your father and I have been [greatly distressed and] anxiously looking for You.”
49And He answered, “Why did you have to look for Me? Did you not know that I had to be in My Father’s house?”
50But they did not understand what He had said to them.
51He went down to Nazareth with them, and was continually submissive and obedient to them; and His mother treasured all these things in her heart.
52And Jesus kept increasing in wisdom and in stature, and in favor with God and men.


Luke 2:39-52 above is about Yahshua aka Jesus at age 12, dazzling and extremely impressing everyone with how much He knew. His intelligence, His understanding and His answers didnt go unnoticed


So when did Jesus go to Egypt in Luke?
Religion / Re: What Language Did Adam And Eve Speak? by Maynman: 11:35pm On Dec 09, 2023
Lawag3:


The Jews are Canaanites !!!

I can't believe I have always taken you seriously 😒


Don't EVER believe me, look it up.

The language of the "Jews" is also from Cannanites.

I wonder why you think an Israelite god that's fighting other middle east gods is your creator 😂
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 11:22pm On Dec 09, 2023
Kobojunkie:

In the above passage, we see that John's job was to prepare the way...
...and the conversation between Jesus Christ and John before the baptism happened leads one to believe that the duty that John had was essential to the plan. So it makes reasonable follows that the Spirit which came down on Jesus Christ was linked with that necessary for preparing the way. undecided
Matthew used book of Mark to write his book. that's absent in Mark.

In john, the reason why he was doing all this is because he did not know who the spirit will land on, he had a sign on how to identify it though.

John 1:31
I myself did not know him, but the reason I came baptizing with water was that he might be revealed to Israel.”

John 1:33
And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The man on whom you see the Spirit come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.

John baptize with water, Jesus baptize with holy spirit.

The testimony that Jesus got is more than john.
John 5:36
But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 11:19pm On Dec 09, 2023
Kobojunkie:
And so, if the Word(The Way aka God's Law) already embodied Grace(Eternal Life) and Truth even before the baptism event— basically, He already had the Spirit of God's Law, Spirit of Truth, and Spirit of Eternal Life in Him — then it follows that the identity of the spirit or at least the purpose must be linked to the Baptism that John carried out.
The word is the spirit, the spirit is the son of god.
That's why the spirit led him to the wilderness to be taught on the word.

Mark 1'12
At once the Spirit sent him out into the wilderness,
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 10:55pm On Dec 09, 2023
Kobojunkie:
undecided
God was with God from the beginning... and had Life(Spirit of Eternal Life) in Him.

The spirit gives life.
John 6:63
The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit[a] and life.
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 10:45pm On Dec 09, 2023
Kobojunkie:
undecided

The question remains exactly what is the identity of the Spirit that came upon Jesus Christ and rested on Him after He was baptized? Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves by concluding that Jesus Christ had no spirit in Him until a spirit arrived and rested instead on him after he was baptized? undecided
You should first learn what "spirit" means, it's also called shekinah.

The spirit is the word of God, that was with God and all that.
Jesus was born a normal man and he got the holy spirit, same way David did


1 Samuel 16:13.
Then Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed David in the presence of his brothers, and the Spirit of the Lord came on David from that day forward. Then Samuel got up and went to Ramah.

John 1:32 Then John gave this testimony: “i saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him.
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 10:44pm On Dec 09, 2023
Kobojunkie:
undecided
According to John 1, the Word of God was with God from the beginning... and had Life(Spirit of Eternal Life) in Him. This, the same Word of God that became a man and lived among men

It was talking about the spirit which is also the word of god, Jesus was to deliver the message of the father, that's his commandment, there's only ONE.

John 3:34
The One whom God has sent to represent him will speak the words of God, because God has poured out upon him the fullness of the Holy Spirit without limitation.


John 1:32
32 Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the Spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him.
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 10:41pm On Dec 09, 2023
NNTR:




"It doesnt mean, as you claim, baptized in water, because of the fact that, the baby in the first place, isnt or wasn't dipped into water"

baptized literally means DIPPED.
Why don't you look up the Greek word too wink
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 10:36pm On Dec 09, 2023
NNTR:




Born again Means come from above.
being born again” is ἄνωθεν, anothen, which means from above.
Religion / Re: JOHN 3:16. by Maynman: 10:35pm On Dec 09, 2023
Kobojunkie:

So, exactly what is the identity of the Spirit that came upon Jesus Christ and rested on Him after He was baptized? Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves by concluding that Jesus Christ had no spirit in Him until a spirit arrived and rested instead on him after he was baptized? undecided
The spirit is the word of God, that was with God and all that.
Jesus was born a normal man and he got the holy spirit, same way David did


1 Samuel 16:13.
Then Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed David in the presence of his brothers, and the Spirit of the Lord came on David from that day forward. Then Samuel got up and went to Ramah.

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