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EMILO2STAY:
you lack knowledge. hebrews 11:3. "By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the
things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

as for the rest of your statement I have addressed. but you keep running in circles. which is a waste of my time.

energy can neither be created nor destroyed and that is what God is.

as for your statement on gravity limiting energy is false because no such thing as gravity. prove gr avity if you can.

You lack wisdom.
Yes by faith you read in a book called “hebrew” that your creator is yahweh and he made heaven and earth, of course you need faith to believe that.

You don’t even understand what “sufficient” means, basking in illiteracy.

Energy can be created, it seems religion bask on illiteracy.

TenQ:
Again,
The words of the Tanakh was written in First person, Second person and Third person perspective from the first words of Genesis

No, tanakh which means Old Testament to Christians were written by different authors at different times, Bible means collection of books, they were collected from different sources..

It is generally said that TORAH was written by moses.
Again, learn facts about your religion which is just one of the Abrahamaic religions.

TenQ:
The only direct written word of God in the Tanakh is the 10 commandments.

Again,
The words of the Tanakh was written in First person, Second person and Third person perspective from the first words of Genesis

how do you know that is the only direct word?
Who was speaking to jonah inside the belly of the shark?
All the prophecies are from?

How do you we know it was “god that said to moses”?

OLAADEGBU:
Do you believe the Bible stories are true stories or just myths?

I don’t need to believe, I’m not a believer, like you said they are stories.
Myths too are stories.

obiekunie01:
cold, calm and highly calculative.

people like this hardly fail in their quest.

That’s what julius ceaser thought too.

EMILO2STAY:
you turning into a joker. the bible says in the begining God made the heavens and the earth. case closed.

as the saviour of mankind he needed to come through human. no eggs where fertilized. case closed.

a man can be self sufficient in a sense. and that is, he doesnt need another man to do anything for him. we are talking of men you are talking of a tree.
energises mean to give life to and form to lifeless and formless things.

Gods desire is borne out of what he has, not what he lacks. he has the POWER to make things be and that is what he has done.

listen to your self ,you are the one rambling with nothing to say. that is why you keep running in circles looking for excuses.

You are a indoctrinated believer.
He made the heaven and earth from what?
There is a difference between create and made.

Why does a savior of mankind need to come through human? Where is that law written?
Why does this saviour need a womb?


The food that he is eating was harvested, processed by another man.
The car he is driving was made by another man.
His house was made by another man.
Even if he wants children, he needs another person to make it.
A man is never sufficient.
Look up the definition of SUFFICIENT.
Only a dullard will say he doesn’t need another man.

Energy does not mean to give life to or form. Where are you getting your definition.
Hope you know energy can be limited by gravity, so as your god

If you already have it then you do not need to desire it, you can only desire what you LACK.

You are the one ranting and rambling defending your isrealite god that has unfulfilled desires just like humans

Spirit247:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rZnJQ4wuUoy5/
Just as our CREATOR said in Genesis about the FIRMament and that HE separated Ocean water below from the Water above, the Stars a beyond and above the Water above, shinning through as they sing Praises unto our CREATOR in Heaven. HalleluAHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH!!!!!!!

The water he seperated above was called what?
Before he created “heaven”, where was your god abode?
And why did your god lower himself to live in one of his creations?

EMILO2STAY:
God created the dust he made man from, and he did it from thin air. God created eve from man from he already created dust he already created from thin air. again you staement is dead on arrival.

when jesus was born he was borne without sperm and eggs this goes to show that Gpd can creat outside sperm and eggs which man cannot.

like I said man can be self sufficient in a sense that he doesn't need anything from any body.


God does not need power because he is power. and power is energy and energy energises.if energy does not energise then energy is not energy. this is the case with God. without God nothing that is today will be. so Gods desires come from his sufficiency and abilty and might. if he is not all these then he would not desire at all to make them be. case closed.

your other question is irrelivant dont digress.

No he didn’t create the dust.
He made man from the dust.
Why didn’t he create man from thin air straight?
He needed the dust to create.

Jesus was not born without sperm and eggs but he needed a womb, a virgin gave birth to a child
What fertilised in the womb then? Spiritual eggs and sperms?

A man cannot be self sufficient, even the food you eat is gotten from a tree OUTSIDE the man.

What does “energises” mean ? What does “energy” mean?
If your god is sufficient, what desire does he want that he doesn’t have already ?

You are just rambling with nothing to say.

EMILO2STAY:
God already made man from dust so your first statement is wrong and dead on arrival.

yes a man cannot do everything by himself but God can. a man can be self sufficient in a sense and when that happens it will be people needing him more than he needs them.

you cannot be all powerful without doing somthing with it because your works goes to prove your power and might. God is energy and energy energises. and when energy energises then can the energy be energy indeed. this is the case with God. in other words God needs to prove himself a God indeed and this is the reason behind his desire for creation. case closed.

How many humans created from dust have you seen apart from the one you read in a book?

your god couldn’t create man without dust?
Why didn’t he create man from thin air?
How did he create eve?
When jesus wanted to he born, how did it happen?

No man can be self sufficient, look up what “sufficient” means, if you are sufficient you won’t need anything even water.
So if your god is self sufficient, why does he have desires? What is he lacking that he longs for?

If your god is energy, then why does he need to be “powerful”?, who is he dueling with?

When is this god going to do something to satan?

TenQ:
No sir!
The Jews NEVER ever claimed that the Tanakh is a DICTATION or LITERAL words of God.

The Tanakh was written in First person, Second person and Third person perspective from the first words of Genesis

Yes the jews claim their tanakh is gotten from their god, yahweh, the commandent is gotten from yahweh.

Tanakh means all of Old Testament, i am talking about genesis that is written in third person, not to forget that all the books are gotten from different sources with Unknown authors.

EMILO2STAY:
how can a man produce his own kind if he lacks the sperm? or a woman if her body cannot produce eggs. when the reproductive system is damaged man cannot reverse it. It is God who designed this not man. when it comes to reproduction with man there is an inevitable end which man cannot help himself but with God there is not. so you can see that God is the maker of mankind and not man.

man can be self sufficient in the sense that he needs nothing from a fellow man, and can do everything by himself. if that is the case then that man can achieve great things with his power and might. this goes to show who he is and what he can do thus making him the mighty man he is. so it is with God.

The beauti of Gods might and power and sufficiency comes from his hand work or creation. an almighty all powerful God makes things come to life and into being with his power because that is where the beauti of his sufficiency lies. if you read the book of genesis ,you will see phrases like " and God saw that it was good" this means beauti, and so making things that are not to be, is what prooves the sufficiency and might of God and also goes to give him glory. you cannot be like God and not make things be otherwise you are no God.

Without eggs or sperms your god could not also create anything.

A man cannot do everything by himself, a wealthy man still needs people to run errands for him, a wealthy man is wealth because of people, people made him wealthy.

If your god is self sufficient why does he have desires, what does your god desire that he his lacking.

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need digressing further the word "ELOHIM" ("my God" could be spoken in different tongues so each person knows the God he is talking about in their hearts! Micah 4:5

There's no need digressing further the word "ALLAH" ("my God"could be spoken in different tongues so each person knows the God he is talking about in their hearts! Micah 4:5

Education is important.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you tell me the meaning of the word "Halleluyah"
Well it means let us praise Yahweh!

Shout, hallelu ….

Is yahweh not a tetegramation, the same way yah, yahu, jehovah are?

TenQ:
The Bible was never claimed by Jews or Christians as a DICTATION or LITERAL word of God?

Muslims claim that the Quran is the Literal Verbatim words of Allah and perfect up to the diacritical marks

The jews claim their books tanakh the one christians call Old Testament as a dictation and literal word of their god, moses went to receive the commandments from who?

TenQ:
You are not getting it
1. I can't edit grammatical errors in the quran. In this verse alone there are a few
a. The Lord should have been LORDS
b. Their Lord should have been ME or US (as Allah likes to be plural)

2. Every translation agree as there isn't much difference in Arabic to English meaning of the verse.

There are two options
1. Mohammed wrote as a third person to Allah
2. If Allah wrote the texts (as claimed by Muslims), then a lot of problems arise.

Thus, I asked the questions



Question :
1. Is this statement in Qur'an 2:62 of the Qur'an from Allah or Mohammed?
2. If the statement is from Allah, who is/are the THEIR LORD spoken of by Allah?
3. Is Allah codedly recognising that he isn't the Lord of the Jews, Christians and Sabians?

Wasn’t genesis written as third person?

MaxInDHouse:
And at the ninth hour, Jesus called out with a loud voice: “Eʹli, Eʹli, laʹma sa·bach·thaʹni?” which means, when translated: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

Ọmọ "Eli" is a short form of "ELOHIM"

Just as Yah is a short form of Yahweh!

“Eloi” is not an hebrew word.

Yah is a tetegramarion not a short form of yahweh.

MaxInDHouse:
Elohim!

Wrong!

Look up mark 15:34.

TenQ:
This is Qur'an written in English by Muslims.
This translation is according to Shakir if you like to know.

Here is the Arabic if you can translate

Original Book
إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَالَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالنَّصَارَىٰ وَالصَّابِئِينَ مَنْ آمَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَالِحًا فَلَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ عِنْدَ رَبِّهِمْ وَلَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ

Here is another translation if you are in doubt

Literal Qur'an
That those who believed and those who repented/guided/Jews , and the Christians and the Sabians/converts , who believed with God and the Day the Last/Resurrection Day, and made/did correct/righteous deeds, so for them their reward (is) at their lord, and no fear/fright on them, and nor they be sad/grieving.

That those who believed and those who repented/guided/Jews , and the Christians and the Sabians/converts , who believed with God and the Day the Last/Resurrection Day, and made/did correct/righteous deeds, so for them their reward (is) at their lord, and no fear/fright on them, and nor they be sad/grieving.

It’s saying the same thing read the whole verse, if it was talking about others, it would have written LORDS.

Spirit247:
For those that are sincerely Searching for the whole TRUTH as YAHSHAYA said only the whole TRUTH has the Capacity to Completely Make us Free, Give your Life to JESUS AHAYHASHA YAHSHAYA and Pray that His ever Pure SPIRIT should take Permanent Ownership of your Heart and Eternal Control of the Source of your Thoughts.

After you have done the above, then start Researching the Lies that has been Taught in our Education and other Lies that have been Popularized by Satanic Scientists with their Satanic aim of making us disbelieve the World of our CREATOR. To the Glory of I AM THAT I AM our Eternal Heavenly FATHER, many Scientists, Archeologists, Doctors, Pilots, etc are now Exopising the Long Time Falsehood propagated with World Education System to make Humanity disbelieve and even Hate our CREATOR. Some shocking Truths that would rattle the depth of your Soul are:

Not everyone is close minded like you.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Jesus never spoke English just as Ṣàngó never spoke Hausa but if an Hausa man chose to worship Ṣàngó he will speak his own language to the God (Elohim) of his choice!

Jesus spoke Aramaic, so what is “god” in Aramaic in his own language

Spirit247:
I'm done with you.

You have said it like 3 times now, yahweh worshipper.

EMILO2STAY:
yes a vessel cant creat sperm and egg but the body of man has been given the ability to produce it which man cannot on his own creat. there are those who are impotent and women who are sterile. these people cannot reverse their situation because that abiltiy reproduce was given by God and not man, if the ability to make sperm and eggs was by man then will man be able to reverse his or her impotent situation to produce their own kind. so end this one here.

the fact that God is self sufficent does not mean he doesnt desire. a man who is self sufficient and need nothing from another man still desires to fulfill his pleasures of having a house, cars, and a host of other properties. as a matter of fact a man who is wealthy and self sufficient desires to use his power and wealth to accomplish great things which are mostly his desires and pleasures . so also has God in his suffiency and might desired to make man for his pleasure.

The body of man is not a “vessel” then.

Many impotent people have been cured, we have procedures for people who can’t give birth.

If you have desires that means you are lacking it.
If you are self sufficient you have all your desires.
You can’t desire what you already have.

No man can be self sufficient, we all need to drink water everyday. When water becomes scarce, you Will see how people desperately desire it.

Spirit247:
Usual Satanic way. You can only say those your taunting Deceitful words to those that have not seen Demons physically and those that have not cast out Demons in the Name of JESUS. Experience they say is still the Best Teacher, but myopic ones like you with over-bloated myopic Ego believe that Deceitful books written by Satanists that that have for so long MisEducated this World and things posted on Internet is your Best Teacher and Decider of your Eternal Destiny. May the CREATOR of Humanity have Mercy on your Soul.

Indoctrinated and brainwashed dogs like you regurgitate what you are been told.
See demons physically? Does this demon look like human?

The books you are basing your miserable life on is written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS.

May you not die worshiping yahweh, the isrealite god.

MaxInDHouse:
He used the same word "ELOHIM" which his listeners knew as the God of their ancestors!

Here is Jesus talking about the God of his own forefathers:

‘I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob’ Matthew 22:32

So each nation back then has their God even though the Gods don't have the same name but each will say "my God" (elohim) in his own native language!

No he couldn’t, he spoke aramaic.

When did jesus speak English?

OLAADEGBU:
I wonder what you are doing on a thread asking the question.

Atheists say they don’t believe God exists but they spend their waking hours talking about the Bible God and it’s characters. If that is not hypocritical then tell me what it is.

What question, that the lives that elijah killed are not valuable? That one?

Atheists don’t say they don’t believe yahweh exist, they say all gods not just the christian one.

Asking about how valuable lives is but you are eager to meet bodily elijah a child murderer lol

Spirit247:
Same Satan enslaved Scientists that told and Taught you Big Lies that from Primary School that the Earth was Created by Big Bang and that Evolution is real: that Humanity came from single single cell that became fish in water, and later became monkey which later became Humanbeing, etc. These are those that you have made your God and made what they wrote in books and posted on Internet the Decider of your Eternal Destiny. Think again, but now Deeper with a Heart that seeks to truly know your CREATOR.

Do you know that the concept of big bang was formulated by a Catholic priest.
Because you are a deity worshipper that doesn’t mean you should be dumb.

What does “human” mean? Does it come from homo?
Are you a mammal?

Spirit247:
Yes, because I know Scripture the Word of Life. "All things(including Internet) work together for good for us that Love AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH The CREATOR of Heaven and Earth, for We who are the Called According to HIS Eternal Purpose."

You only know the Jewish scriptures you have been indoctrinated with.
Only if you know you are the AHAYAH ASHAR AHAYAH, and not an isreality deity called yahweh.
In your genesis story, the elohim didn’t create heaven and earth, they “made” it.

TheMadame:
I found this.

Exactly, they said El is the father of all Elohim.
Who is El?

Spirit247:
Yes, because I know Scripture the World of Life.

You don’t even know what “scripture” means. Just regurgitating what they told you.
Or do you mean Jewish scriptures(writings)?

EMILO2STAY:
can you produce eggs and sperm from thin air and incubate it? humans are vessels by which another human being is brought into this world.

God mad man for his pleasure on earth whether he is lacking it or not is immaterial.
so to act in kindness and love to your fellow man is bondage? to love your neighbor as yourself is bondage? to help your fellow man in need is bondage? this things is what the love of God brings about ,living in peace ad harmony in loving kindness with your fellow human being is not bondage but an act of true love. so you are wrong.

Humans produce eggs and sperms.
Even your god didn’t create anything out of thin air.
A vessel can’t create sperms and eggs.


If your god is self sufficient, why does he need more pleasure?

MaxInDHouse:
So whether SEMITIC or SEMILUNAR the word "ELOHIM" means "my God" and everyone can say "my God" in their native language shey?

Ọmọ case closed!

Semitic is gotten from Shem, so semilunar is perfect

Elohim and allah means same thing, “my god”, and everyone can say "my God" in their native language shey?

When that jewish boy called iesus was alive inside the New Testament, he couldn’t speak English, how then did he call “God”