Kobojunkie: What is known of Heaven is that which is written and if you stuck to just that rather than include that which is of your imagination, you will note the same things I have. For instance, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are not in Heaven but are rather still sleeping in their graves.
Neither abraham, isaac and jacob spoke English, hence they couldn’t say “heaven”, how did they say “heaven” and does it mean the imaginations you have now.
100 years have gone, you have understood the system here, how things work. You no longer miss your loved ones in hell as before. You rarely think of them this days. You have a new family here now. You have met all your favorite Bible characters, you see Jesus daily and whenever you want.
It’s 100 years and one day, just another day in heaven, you are up for the days task, to worship God and sing of his everlasting love. You look around your mansion, you stroll to the worship ground and begin the routine again. This time, you understand how things works, you see Jesus smiling at you from a distance, you waved at him. Hey savior, he waved back.
You see Isaac doing that famous break dance, you smiled to yourself. You have learnt all the dance steps you could possibly learn over the years. There another set of angels are blowing trumpet. There, you see the biblical Ruth smiling and singing with all energy and euphoria like it was the first day (you wondered in your mind what kept her going all these years of daily praising and singing) you envy her energy, she never gets tired. God is still on the throne, nodding and smiling at you. Oh sweet God. See his lovey crown, how I wish I could sit beside him or how does it feel to even be seated on that throne (Suddenly you waved that evil thought away, you should never desire the throne, that was how Lucifer started )
Have you ever sat down to think what “eternity” means? This 100 years, are you counting in 24 hours?
Kobojunkie: Genesis 3 vs 19 -- From dust you were made and to dust you shall return .
Yes they were made in the image/shadow of elohim, but they later became one of the elohim thanks to eve, the philosopher. Why will fellow gods sentenced one another to their own heaven or hell when they can also create theirs?
Exactly like your verse said, he “made” them from the dust(body), did he make the breath from the dust also?
AmeLonRo: In Genesis chapter 1 verse 3, God said light should appear and it was so and it was good. Darkness limits and darkness is misdirection. God wants to guide you divinely with His light.
There's a difference between ,'it works ' and 'what makes it to work .
There are herbal remedies in the market , right now,which are very effective in curing some ailments that main stream scientist have yet to find a cure for .
Most people, who use them, know they work , not because they carried out any scientific studies or test of their own before usage ,but because it has helped them personally to treat a particular ailment they once sufferred from ,and also know of millions of others who have also benefited in the same way .
The product manufacturer may have carried out scientific research on his own to know why it works and is sure about that ,but not yet confirmed by other scientist .
Scientific analysis or study done by others in the main body of sciences to determine if an herbal product , or claim ,can effect a cure goes through a very strict and rigorous process.. In most cases ,it usually takes time and huge amount of funding to conduct .
Scientists and regulatory agencies , don't always have all the funds available each time to ascertain all claims of cure ,or any other kinds of claims ,made by anyone, or group of persons . Different claims keep coming up every now and then .
Another another thing you need to know is that , the person who is making the herbal claim is not allowed to provide the funding for such confirmation in order not to unduly influence what other scientist will be doing to validate it.
It's because you are unaware of what goes on within the scientific community ,you just assume that if an individual scientist or group of scientist present their own research findings for just about anything for verification, then it will be investigated immediately . Not so.
You have used to personal pronoun ,we' as if you are a trained scientist and so know better when infact you are clueless about some of those things .Don't pretend what you are not to win argument . Be yourself .
Everything is not investigated and not everthing will be investigated . You as an individual will sometimes need to do that yourself instead of waiting lazily all the time for scientist to come up with something before you start taking advantage of it.
Those in the main body of the sciences are not too keen to validate herbal claims ,especially if there's already an orthodox cure available . We all saw that during the covid 19 pandemic .
There's politics in the sciences too. Morever ,Scientist are also humans with their own personal bias which sometimes influences their decision making .
I'm not against scientist or science ,far from it ,but only follow it with common sense, and not just swallow everything and end up being used as a guinea pig , or start acting irrationally based on wrong conclusion arrived at in the sciences which will be later abandoned for another .
However ,there are enough reasons to trust scientists more than pastors ,but one should always apply common sense .
People are always coming up with different claims of cure ,some very good ,others empty claims .
So in the absence of scientific validation by the 'we' ,how do we know which claim is true or false ?
It's by verifying it ourselves , and using it ,if not toxic, while waiting waiting for confirmation from the ' we'
. If it's not toxic and works ,without scientific validation, use it. .
This is my position .
And why are you against this and don't want me to speak my truth which others who don't know about it could benefit from ?
The worst part you have not provided any reasonable alternative .
Most pharmaceutical drugs are “herbal”.
A person coming up with a herbal drink that’s medicinal is practicing Science already.
Is “science” synonymous with “white” people?
All these people selling herbs in the market know how fermentation and other scientific method works and its effects to produce it. They know what leaves contain which and which vitamins, all these are part of “science”.
In the beginning God created In the beginning was the word
The very word said, "I am the beginning and the end"
The only existence before or beyond the beginning is the speaker of the beginning, the creator and Father of creation.
What was there before the beginning? Before the “word” what was there?
You said it yourself he only started creating in the beginning of his existence. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
Your god is male gender, did he create the gender or that’s how HE came in the beginning? What is the difference between a man and a woman? Which features/xharcat of man does your god have?
snthesis: By definition Adultery is having sex with a married person, in short "sex outside marriage". My question however is when a consenting Couple (Husband and Wife) together invites a Third party for consensual sex with the wife towards having a Child in their union, can this be termed as Adultery? especially when the couple have been trying to have a child for so so long...
OLAADEGBU: Jesus often called Himself the "Son of Man," which some people believe is Jesus saying He is only human. Historically, this is actually a prophetic reference to divinity from the book of Daniel.
Your Iesus in your New Testament spoke Aramaic, what is “son of man” in aramaic? bar-adam! son of man', is synonomous with the word man, a substitute for somebody. in Aramaic the term was used regularly to indicate a male person.
FxMasterz: While you fail to advise yourself? What have I been giving you since yesterday? Providing screenshots and links to an atheist who would no longer be advised.
I know nothing would come out of any discussion with you. I'll let the matter rest.
I’m not an hypocrite, listen to your own advice first.
This is one of the screenshot as “evidence” you have been given me “since yesterday” from biblestudy.org, theist
FxMasterz: It's not by making unnecessary noise. Noises don't give evidence.
Throughout history up till today, Christians are known to be the most law abiding and gentle group.
Provide evidences. Not noise.
Listen to your advice and provide evidence that paul died at 67AD, I hope it won’t be a typo again? Also Provide evidence he was arrested, jailed after the fire and was killed in 67AD.
Chrestians were assassins, murderers and zealots that burnt down rome and killed nero, historian tacitus and suetonius said so