The codex siniaticus is the first and original New Testament and it’s the MOST DOCTORED AND EDITED DOCUMENT IN HISTORY
Since you have bible scholars why don’t you refute it with FACTS
Sixfiguresmart: So what? Were the masoretic texts approved by Mohammed or not?
Why should I mention various Bible versions to you? Are you ignorant too? Go figure yourself.
Surah 80:11-13 But no! This ˹revelation˺ is truly a reminder, So let whoever wills be mindful of it. It is ˹written˺ on pages held in honour
Who actually wrote the quran? Where are the PAGES (not verbal wordings) of the quran GIVEN to Mohammed?
Muslims claim to have originally memorized the quran but allah said that IT WAS WRITTEN IN PAGES.
So, where are the PAGES of that quran THAT ALLAH WROTE and GAVE to Mohammed??
Surah 85:21-22 In fact, this is a glorious Quran, ˹RECORDED˺ IN A PRESERVED TABLET.
Where are the tablets? Where are the manuscripts. Where are the scrolls? Where are the scripts of the quran?
You are here quoting records of men born yesterday and who had a free platform to post trash online. Let us go back to the islamic texts of the 6th and 8th century. Do not bring me stupid wikipedia junks. I do not buy shitt from wikipedia. I was school in an established institution of knowledge and was granted a certificate that wikipedia cannot grant you. Who is wikipedia? Bring your scholars text and let me bring my Bible. We will analyze it and see who has the truth
Lawag3: This is a field of the bible I am not to familiar with will you permit me time to study and get back at you with answers . Also study why your Qurans have many versions
Go and study, I’m sure you’ll find more interesting things. And don’t forget the masoretic text you borrowed from judaism.
You’ve forgotten both you and muslims are both worshipping abrahamaic gods, that’s the characteristics y’all both exhibit.
The KJV relied on a handful of very late Greek manuscripts, including five editions of the Textus Receptus by Erasmus, the Stephanus edition, and the Bezae codex. Erasmus didn’t have a complete manuscript of the New Testament in Greek. He produced his manuscript by comparing several partial manuscripts and combined them to make an eclectic text. Even then, he did not have a complete New Testament. He attempted to make up for this by translating the Latin Vulgate into Greek.
The Stephanus edition started with the Textus Receptus and made some notes where other texts differed.
The Bezae Text is generally considered unreliable. The author of this text took some unusual liberties. For example, he rewrote the genealogy of Jesus in Luke’s gospel, putting it in reverse order so it would look more like the genealogy in Matthew. It adds a story about Jesus found in no other manuscript. And it adds details in the story of Peter’s deliverance from Prison.
The KJV translation of the Old Testament was largely based on an early edition of the Masoretic Text that is identical to the text used in most modern translations in most places. However, there are a few places that modern scholars believe this text is in error and they compare it with ancient translations to decide on the correct reading. the thing about the bible is you can compare it with ancient translations to decide the correct reading.
You read what you posted? You guys still borrowed masoteric text from JUDAISM.
The king james VERSION is the first English translation copied from masoteric text of judaism. You are ignorant. Mention the various bible VERSIONS that existed before it? “KJB” bwahahahah, KGB nih
Sixfiguresmart: King James bible is only a little over 400 years ago.
The King James copied from other Existing Bibles too. So, how can you base your argument on KJB when hundreds of years before it many Bibles already existed.
Do you really have a point?
Your current quran, Hafs was produced in 1923 in Egypt. Less than 100 years ago.
noble2faith: Answer my question young man. Who is tolerant between Muslims and Christians?
Answer mine old man. Where was this tolerance when one deity was killing some people’s first born? Na another person offend you, you are now killing innocent first borns.
The first and original New Testament is the most DOCTORED AND EDITED DOCUMENT IN HISTORY, after the forgery, king james of the england church created his own VERSION for his church.
Which VERSION of the bible are you using?
Sixfiguresmart: There is nothing like Bible version. Christianity has only one Bible. The problem of versions were caused by Muslim who from the 6th century began burning all Bible copies. You burned the scrolls. Muslims invaded Jerusalem right from the 7th century and all the did was burn all that Mohammed himself referred to as the word of God.
Your muslims are the reason why we cannot have thousands more of the copies of ancient scrolls. If not that God protected the dead sea scrolls, you would have burned it.
If not for the west that protected Israel, we Christians would have had almost nothing of the ancient relics or the original texts of the Bible. why did you burn the copies of the Bible? Thank God for israel as a nation that archeologists are able to unearth vital information to prove the veracity of the Bible.
There are about 56 qurans out there. Hafs is the one approved by Saudi but The mushaf muhammadī is used in Morocco. There are hundreds of differences in all these qurans too. if we date back to the early quranic scripts which are all from the 9th century, you will be shocked the corections done at that time and today saudi Arabians have foudn 2500 errors in the quran.
Saudi Arabians discovered that Allah was wrong 2500 times. And, to think of it, they live close to Mecca.
All the versions of the Bible go back to one single source. The manuscripts can be used to identify flaws in the Bible. Unlike the quran.
noble2faith: I know you are a Muslim. Just wanna hear from the horse's mouth. One general feature of every Muslim that poises as an apologist is avoiding a question by diverting into another one.
You asked me about being educated the other time - a question that should be directed to you million times. U talked about a deity killing the first born of every creature, which has nothing to do with tolerance. This is a different scenerio entirely. I believe you know the story surrounding the killing of the firstborn. I believe you know that before God embarked on doing that series of thing happened. At this point, I won't say anything concerning that again. Take my explanation or leave it.
Since you have decided to harbour someone's burden on your head while holding yours, can you answer the question with the sincerity of your mind? Christians of today and Muslims of today, who is more tolerant? If you are economical with the truth, I pray you fall a victim of Islamic fundamsntalists.
So there are times that tolerance don’t work? Bwahahahah
See how you are justifying genocide. Mohammed will be proud
In your words “Follow peace with all men..." When you be at peace with everyone around, you tolerate them irrespective of the social differences, which religion is also among.”
noble2faith: I believe you could use your tongue to count your teeth. You could decipher my message. Just answer the question and stop stylishly dodging it. What are you?
Keep mentioning other religions you know, don’t be obtuse theist.
Talking about dodging lol “Where was this tolerance when one deity was killing some people’s first born? Na another person offend you, you are now killing innocent first borns.“
Monday60655: If you check the earlier conversation, I was the one who told you initially, may God bless you. Then you come up with your tautology before I asked a question. Nothing is bordering me, if you have anyone that borders you, just cast it upon the Lord. He will give you rest.
cococandy: Can’t Imagine how hard it must be to be a celebrity. People just coming up into your personal space as if you owe them audience and your time. She almost face to face with him. Think of the germs too. Eww
noble2faith: Shey u get comprehension problem ni? Do you expect to see it written word for word just it is written in Quran ni? Those verses I provided up there, tolerance is implied in them.
"Follow peace with all men..." When you be at peace with everyone around, you tolerate them irrespective of the social differences, which religion is also among.
"...bearing with one another in love..." Tolerance is also implied here. Not just tolerance, but tolerance with love.
The message is clearly postulated, even audible to the deaf and visible to the blind.
Now to my question. You said Islam teaches tolerance based on what you quoted from Quran. Agreed. It is undisputable.
The question is "Do you guys practice what Islam teaches?"
Even your so called prophet did not practice it during his time. The reason he said so then was because Islam was just growing then. He knew if he used force like he did later, Islam would be destroyed. He subtly said there is no compulsion in religion just to win hearts of people. After Islam gained momentum, he unleashed the Islamic dragon. He started using the compulsion he preached against earlier.
Where was this tolerance when one deity was killing some people’s first born? Na another person offend you, you are now killing innocent first borns.
IamDietiesGod: In a bid to weaken the influence of the Academic Staff Union of Universities, the Federal Government, on Tuesday, registered two unions in the university system.
The unions are the National Association of Medical and Dental Academics and the Congress of Nigerian University Academics.
The Minister of Labour and Productivity, Chris Ngige, who spoke while presenting the certificates of registration to the two unions explained that the two bodies will exist alongside ASUU.
Kobojunkie: You will have to be operating under some serious delusions to assume part of that which is KIng Ahasuerus. Please stop using the name of Jesus Christ to teach these lies abeg!
You are the one under delusions worshipping abrahamaic gods.
onumadu: Earlier on this thread, I said that the human language is limited in communication in spiritual matters, and I would cite one example of something that happened just yesterday.
I was somewhere in a major American city, and had parked my car in an open parking lot under some big trees.
In my car, I started playing a gospel music. The music I was playing is a classic song by "Voice of the Cross" an Igbo gospel band. The particular song is titled "Okworom nwuo" ( "He died because of me" )
A squirrel came down from the trees and approached my car. It sat very close to the car quietly and was listening to this song! The squirrel stayed there and apparently wanted it more, so it went under my car and sat there until the song ended, and it ran out back up the trees!
Here's my conclusion:
The song is in IGBO language, and the squirrel is an AMERICAN squirrel. However, the spiritual communication (extra-verbal communication) from the music and from myself was understood by the squirrel. It immediately understood that my soul was singing praises to my Savior, and joined in the praise/worship. No words spoken.
ALL creatures on this planet recognizes their maker and worships GOD every given day/time. Anyway, that is why I struggle with the jealousy idea. People have used this claim that God is jealous to create toxic environments whereby they let their own jealousy run amok. The wickedness in our society today gives cause for concern, and some of it stem from jealousy. I'll leave this for now until someone gives me a sound logic to prove that the MOST HIGH GOD is insecure.
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims, Allah Said That The Quran Was Recorded˺ In A Preserved Tablet In 85:22 by Maynmann: 6:26am On Oct 05, 2022
