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Religion / Re: Does God Exist? by MayntheeMayn: 9:25pm On Oct 27, 2023
sonmvayina:

If you really sit down with all those people in different cultures..they will actually tell you the same thing. The messages will be consistent...you will be amazed...the only difference is the person telling the story.......

Tell us the similarities between Marduk and Olorun.
Religion / Re: Why Did All Prophets Come From Only Israel And Arabian Countries? by MayntheeMayn: 7:20pm On Oct 27, 2023
FxMasterz:


God's plan was to use one nation on earth to present Himself to the world.
Why didn't your god just create one "nation" and not the world?

And here I was thinking "nation" is a human construct.

Religion / Re: Theos 102-- Sky Father. by MayntheeMayn: 8:34pm On Oct 07, 2023
On Akasha, Space. Most of your body is made up of space. Humans really are made of stardust.

A lot of ancient philosophies around the globe classify the composition of the Universe into 5 elements: Earth, Water, Fire, Air and Ether (Space).

All of Creation is made up of the five elements in different proportions.
The Human body is also the product of these 5 elements in different proportions. 72% water, 12% earth, 6% air, 4% fire and the rest is Ether/Space.

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Religion / Re: Theos 102-- Sky Father. by MayntheeMayn: 7:36pm On Oct 07, 2023
Taken from an excerpt by Carl Jung: 'This is a God you knew nothing about. We call him Abraxas. He is even more indefinite than God and the devil.' (Jung's Soul, The Black Books, Vol. V, Page 272).

Continuing on the concept of the sky father:
We often condemn evil or bad, yet without it, how would you recognize good? You need something to contrast in order to differentiate it.
The good (divine) is as important as the bad (devil); if you eradicate one, you eradicate the other. With God, all devils disappear; they are shadows of your God. Without God, the devil does not exist.

The words 'devil' and 'divine' come from the same Sanskrit root. In Sanskrit, the Divine is called 'deva.'
The word 'devil' is derived from Old Persian 'daeva,' which, in Sanskrit root, is 'deva.'
In Sanskrit, the word 'Deva' is derived from the root 'Deiwo' or 'Diw,' which means celestial or shining (like the Sun or bright daylight or a star).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_(Hinduism)

The concept of Satan/Devil/Lucifer, as understood by Abrahamic religions, can be traced back to Zoroastrianism. According to Wikipedia, 'During the Second Temple Period, when Jews were living in the Achaemenid Empire, Judaism was heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism, the religion of the Achaemenids. Jewish conceptions of Satan were impacted by Angra Mainyu, the Zoroastrian spirit of evil, darkness, and ignorance.'

In the Zoroastrian creation myth, Ahura Mazda existed in light and goodness above, while Angra Mainyu existed in darkness and ignorance below.
https://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/309/zorojud.htm

They are two sides of the same coin, Ying and Yang.

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Religion / Re: Theos 102-- Sky Father. by MayntheeMayn: 5:39pm On Oct 07, 2023
You are in heaven (Akasha) now, using the Earth as your ship.
Heaven is Space.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUIQAGqhSj0?si=OOoSxDTI4KBMdLgc

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Religion / Re: Theos 101—The Concept of God. by MayntheeMayn: 5:08pm On Oct 07, 2023
correctguy101:


Let us know too..


Oni wahala grin
https://www.nairaland.com/7868632/theos-102-sky-father
Religion / Re: Theos 101—The Concept of God. by MayntheeMayn: 5:08pm On Oct 07, 2023
Busybrain2233:
Ride on Boss cool
https://www.nairaland.com/7868632/theos-102-sky-father
Religion / Re: I Don't Understand This by MayntheeMayn: 3:48pm On Oct 07, 2023
Mikel99:
Is it possible for an evil man or woman or a person who destroys the lives of other people's children to have successful children?
I asked because people often say that what you do to other people's children will come back to your own children ten folds.
How is this man/woman "evil" and destroying other people's children?
Religion / Theos 102-- Sky Father. by MayntheeMayn: 3:17pm On Oct 07, 2023
Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name; Thy kingdom come; Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.....

It's well-known that most religions feature a concept of their supreme deity being referred to as the "Lord/King of Heaven(s)." Such figures are collectively categorized as "sky father" deities, and they frequently serve as the heads of their respective pantheons.
Several examples include:
In Turkic culture, there's Tengri.
In Greek mythology, we find Zeus.
In Latin, there's Jupiter/Jove.
Among the Yoruba people, there's Olorun.
The Jewish faith centers on Yahweh.
The ancient Semitic people revered El.
Ancient Egypt had Horus.
The Igbo culture acknowledges Chukwu.
In Norse mythology, there's Tyr.

What makes heaven and what's within it so special that it's a recurring theme among the heads of these pantheons? To understand what "heaven" or "sky" meant in ancient times, we can examine the context of various original languages. Etymology is indeed a valid approach.

Cognates originating from the stem *dyeu- ("daylight, bright sky" ) and the epithet *Dyēus Ph2ter ("Father Sky" ) are widely present in Indo-European languages. Some examples include:

Greek: Zeus Pater. (Pater means Father).
Illyrian: Dei pátrous.
The Irish All-Father: The Dagda.
Latin: Jupiter/Jove; Old Latin: Dioue (or loue).
Latin: Divine/Deus.
Scythian: Papaios for Zeus.
Palaic: Tiyaz papaz.
Samaritans: ΙΑΒΕ (Jave); pronounced by the Jews as ΙΑΩ, which sounds like Yahweh/love.
In Norse mythology, there's Tyr.
The Baltic Sky-Father: Diēvas.

All these names originate from the same root and convey the same concept. This name can be traced back to the Sky god Dyaus of the ancient Hindu Rigveda. Dyáuṣ Pitṛ́ is a Sanskrit name.
The Sky in Vedic writing was described as rising in three tiers, avamá, madhyamá, and uttamá or tṛtī́ya.
3 Levels of Heaven does this sound familiar, Christians? AnAbnormalHuman

Dyēus referred to the vast and bright sky of the day. Even a quick search of the word "heaven's" etymology will lead you back to "sky."
when Hindus perform rituals they chant Om Dyauha Shanti which means - Om, Peace is in Sky.


So, what makes heaven/sky so special? 1) It Contains Everything, The Akasha.
Akasha is a whole topic, but I will give you an analogy in Zen of what heaven/sky, which originally meant Akasha, non-being means.

"We mold clay into a pot, but the emptiness inside makes the vessel useful. We fashion wood for a house, but the emptiness inside makes it livable. We work with the substantial, but the emptiness is what we use."


(2) The word "Jupiter," transliterated from Latin to Greek as Ιαβε, is pronounced like "Yahweh." In the Tanakh, Yahweh/Jupiter repeatedly refers to Himself as the "Lord of Hosts," mentioned more than 270 times with the Hebrew word "sabaoth." But lord of which hosts? This includes the armies of Israel (1 Sam. 17:45) and the angelic armies of heaven, wtf does 'angelic armies of heaven' mean... let's find out.

We can draw parallels in Latin mythology where Ζεβυθ is a transliteration of the Hebrew word Saboath, making Ιαβεζεβυθ literally mean "Jupiter of the Hosts" – that is, of the planets and stars.

The Gnostics also discussed Jupiter Saboath as the "Jupiter of the hosts" of the planets and stars, as recorded in Genesis 2:1, "The heavens and the earth were finished, and all the hosts of them." (ṣə·ḇā·’ām)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaoth_(Gnosticism)


Shifting our focus, the concept of the sky god Dyēus in the ancient Hindu Rigveda gains additional context with Akasha, which some delusional people are already associating with "Akashic Records".

Dyēus' consort is Prithvi, the Earth Mother (Mata), from which we've derived the phrase "Mother Earth" – Dʰéǵʰōm.


Psalm 103:1
"The Lord has established His throne in the heavens, and His sovereignty rules over all."

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Religion / Re: Religious Tolerance by MayntheeMayn: 10:53am On Oct 07, 2023
elated177:
You do know that witchcraft is religion, right?
Witchcraft you mean Wicca?
We don't have witches in Africa or in Nigeria atleast.

Religion / Re: The Occult Or Occultism! by MayntheeMayn: 10:34am On Oct 07, 2023
Maynman:

There's nothing that can give you comfort than loving what you do/doing what you love.
Religion / Re: Dies The Church You Attend Determine Your Salvation? by MayntheeMayn: 10:25am On Oct 07, 2023
AnAbnormalHuman:



If you don't find the perfect group, and you really want to join a Church group, at least remember to imitate them, but only in the ways they imitate Christ.
Chain loving Jewish slave playing the game of one-upmanship, tell me about your circus group.

You are Barren and I will expose it. I'm still waiting for you to post the dictionary link of where you read Hebrew elohim as god or is God, how do you pronounce small and big letters, later on I'll teach you how god became God cheesy

Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 11:57am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:
So aliens and warmholes are baseless?
You are comparing aliens and warmholes to a deistic god?
What kind of delusion is this 😂😂
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 11:52am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:


Why would you look for pink unicorns on Mars when you are yet to find life on Mars?
We are yet to find life on mars doesn’t mean there is no life on mars, we don’t know, we can’t believe or disbelieve. We should not conclude, we have little information, and the pink unicorns can have there own source apart from “life” that we humans use.

And is “Absence of Evidence not Evidence of Absence” again?
Why are you cherry picking the scenario to use it?
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 11:49am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:
And who says pink unicorns can't exist on Mars?
You are just been an agnostic now.

So if someone also claims that the pink unicorn created the world and it is living on mars, you will also be agnostic to it.
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 11:44am On Jul 27, 2023
A001:
This m.oron with an empty brain keeps mentioning me here unnecessarily. Wasting away your life on silly discussions online early in the morning when your mates are in their workplaces and getting involved in meaningful activities.

If you're so foolish that you don't know what the word 'god' means, then what's your dictionary there for?

Keep waking up and sleeping on Nairaland forum since you're jobless.

Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 11:14am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:
no claim is baseless if it hasn't been disproven.

My undergraduate research work as a biochemist, I worked on finding evidence for or against traditional claims that cashew leaves have diuretic and laxative effect hence they is handy in the treatment of hypertension and bowel movement diseases.
Going by your definition, most traditional medicinal claims are baseless, they usually sound ridiculous. You will see one person selling gbogbonise that can cure all diseases in earth, is that not baseless but science still disprove them.

It's not baseless until proven baseless.
That’s not what a BASELESS claim is in relation to a deistic god.
A baseless claim in that context is saying, cashew leaves have hands and fingers.
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 11:13am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:

I am a weak agnostic. I don't have any knowledge of existence if a god so I don't believe or disbelieve it. I think we do not have sufficient knowledge to know if a god exist or not hence deists, atheists and theists do not know what they are talking about.
How are we gonna know if we have sufficient knowledge for a “god” or not?
What are the parameters to know?

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Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 11:03am On Jul 27, 2023
LordReed:


It is is baseless if you are giving attributes to the god. If you are simply saying there could be a god then it would be different. You are giving the god attributes BEFORE you have any evidence.
I want you to look at this. Deism is a Calvanist concept.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/philosophy-and-religion/philosophy/philosophy-terms-and-concepts/deists

Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 11:02am On Jul 27, 2023
We found a new planet right, and we have evidence we have found it?

Workch:
If we found a new planet and we are not sure what this planet is made of yet and I make a claim that this planet can Harbour life. Of course it's a baseless claim and that's what theism does.
Epsitemologically, the individual that made the claim has the burden of proof to prove it but scientifically, the person who made the claim does not necessarily need to find evidence to validate the claim. If you think that the claim is not correct, in science, you will go out and find evidence against it else the argument is still very open.
This is what i have been telling you since, you need to understand what “god” means.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/philosophy-and-religion/philosophy/philosophy-terms-and-concepts/deists
This is the first time I’m even researching on this and it is agreeing with what i am saying, a calvanist concept.

Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 10:58am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:

Atheists disbelieve all gods without evidence against all gods.

What do you understand by “god”?
Atheists also “disbelieve” in all santa, what do you understand by santa?

The funny thing is this is what i have been saying since, you lack the meaning of the word “god”, read!!
https://www.encyclopedia.com/philosophy-and-religion/philosophy/philosophy-terms-and-concepts/deists

Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 10:55am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:
I'm not the one giving, deist gave it that attribute. I cannot disprove it, neither can you.
“Deist” are not giving it attributes.
The origin of the word deist comes from deus, it also literally means zeus, all from sanskirt.
The word has a meaning, “deist” didn’t give it.

If you can just look up the origin of the word “god” it arises from a PANTHEON 😂

Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 10:53am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:
if you don't disbelieve the existence of all god then you do not qualify as an atheist.
Atheists disbelieve all gods without evidence against all gods.

What qualifies a thing to be a “god”?
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 10:51am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch:
Where did i give god attributes?
Deist say that their God does not intervene, it's an attribute. You will easily verify this if you can find how everything started but we cannot. We are incapable of doing that, at least for now
They already said the deist god is the creator, is that not an attribute?

Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 10:09am On Jul 27, 2023
Workch, i want you to know that your concept of “god” is flawed, and also “god” is a title not a person, a deistic god claiming to be a creator is already leaning towards monotheism. Because it’s only in monotheism that a “god” is a creator and has all those weird attributes.

You are thinking of god as a creator outside of his creation just like the owner of apple is outside the Apple products itself.

if a Creator created everything, then everything that was Created is, in essence, the Creator.
if a Creator created everything, then the Creator is also everything that was Created.


The whole universe is the Plenum.
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 9:55am On Jul 27, 2023
HisSplendor:

I'm done with you already. I've passed my message.
When jesus was alive, what did he call “god” in his language, aramaic.

Start to dig that 😂
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 9:52am On Jul 27, 2023
HisSplendor:

By following the rules of its exploration.
Whose rules?
The people that made the rules, which rule did they follow to explore?
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 9:48am On Jul 27, 2023
HisSplendor:


Yes, you must first hear before verifying, is that not? Whatever you explore today, you first heard about it, then you go on a verifying exploration.
How can I verify and explore something that my naked eye can’t see?
An invisible different world.
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 9:47am On Jul 27, 2023
HisSplendor:

Read me again please. No one gets there by relying on others. That's what you've done all your life. Not so for me.
Same you said “Stop relying on others for your finds. Talk for yourself.”, same you said “ You've heard it yourself before that there's an invisible world.”
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 9:41am On Jul 27, 2023
HisSplendor:

I've answered your question. I knew by following the laid down rules for exploring it.
Relying on others i see.
Religion / Re: Atheists And Atheism by MayntheeMayn: 9:40am On Jul 27, 2023
HisSplendor:


You've heard it yourself before that there's an invisible world.
Same you said “Stop relying on others for your finds. Talk for yourself.”

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