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Swissh:
It's not even debatable. Suarez exploits of 59goals just shows the kind of enjoyment Messi has experienced most of his career. He has never come close to replicating those performance for Argentina in any competition or even finish as top scorer. Somebody said he even went back to back competition for Argentina without scoring a single goal why is that? Put Ronaldo in those Barca teams and he will bang in goal figures that will make Messi blush.

Bwhahahahah.Its this back to back competition stuff without a single goal that always cracks me up. After banging in 50goals for Barca you go to Argentina and drop stinkers in back to back competitions. This system player is the Goat some people Stan.

simonjassy:
the Same Euros that portugal's park the bus won for them?.

ok

simonjassy:
What trophies did he deliver for portugal?. is it the euros that eder won or the euro 2020 qualifiers turned uefa nations league in which bernado was more influential than your c.ronaldo.Have you forgotten the 2006 world cup that ronaldo played?.

Euros 2016.... Ronaldo contributed to 6 goals out of Portugal entire 8 goals in the competition including a goal and an assist in the Semi final. He was Portugal best attacker.

Euros nations league finals Ronaldo finished as the top scorer and delivered the trophy as well.

Portugal in 3 semi finals that took them into the final they scored 7 goals. Ronaldo scored 5 of those goals and assisted the other 2. Now this is Messi for Argentina.

[quote author=Greatihex post=89567349][/quote]Portugal before Ronaldo Era...0 finals and 0 trophy
Portugal now.

Neymar1095:
Messi for Argentina has only 4 goals in 21knock out games. With those miserable stats how can Argentina win anything.

Poverty stricken stats. When not playing for Barcelona he becomes ordinary. I mean 2 competition back to back with Argentina without scoring a single goal. Damn that's tough.

randomperson:
They are barca fans, that's what fans do...

I don't get the point you believe you're making

Ok then nevermind.

Swissh:
I tire for that Madrid guy. Maybe he dropped out of school at jss1.

Werey

randomperson:
[s] The only difference between Messi and Ronaldo's international careers is that Eder scored for Portugal... Ronaldo just like Messi has zero goals and assists in all his finals for Portugal.

When you cannot counter an argument, you resort to shouting 'shalaye' ...

Bring facts, No. Bring stats, No! Bring logic, No!

Just shouting shalaye like a robot [/s]

Ronaldo dominated two leagues....fact

Ronaldo won every individual and collective awards in those league....fact

Ronaldo has delivered two trophies for his country....fact

Ronaldo has won every where both country and in every league....fact.

Don't bother replying with more Shalayes about your Camp Nou legend and Argentine flop. Not interested one bit.

randomperson:
So how does that affect me... If you cannot handle Ronaldo been outshone by his Aburo, that's your problem

First of all you claimed people that matter jornalist,coaches says Messi is better. I showed you where Barca fans ridicule and insult those same people opinion and call them rubbish now it doesn't affect you. Ok bro

randomperson:
I laugh in Spanish...

Messi has faced all the best teams from England and has destroyed each of them at least once...

It is not difficult dominating a league that has not produced up to three world best players

Messi has decided to stay in the best and most successful league in the world competing directly against the biggest and most successful club ever...

Ronaldo moved from the second richest club in the world to the richest club in the world and then left to a league where he is beaten to the golden boot by a 35 year-old unknown

Guy why do you like to much Shalayes. Ronaldo has gone to two leagues and won every individual and collective awards it has to offer. That is the fact and the greatness of Ororo. Unlike a certain Camp nou legend without a spoon for his Nation.

randomperson:
It's not rubbish... Because of Messi's antecedents, anytime he does something less than his pedigree, he's seriously downvoted...

Fact is that he has six ballon d'ors, six Fifa world best and six golden boots... Not to mention a host of other individual honors... And he's over two years younger than your God...

When your Aburo starts out shining you, you simply have to acknowledge that abinibi pass ability

All these are unnecessary Shalayes. Go to the Barca thread and see how they insulted those same people you claim their opinion is worth gold when Messi was voted 5th and any time Ororo won the award. Double standard

Emmynator:
We wey camp for lord ororo side know na, ororo has more stake in the future than the midget. Proving yourself in different leagues protects you from being labelled a system player.
Few years from now when people will only watch messi on youtube his failure on the international level and monopoly career will stand against him, as we have seen countlessly here.

Spot on bro. King Ororo is the greatest of his generation. Man dominated 2 leagues winning every individual and collective awards along the way. Messi is just a Camp Nou legend

randomperson:
Lol... Keep deceiving yourselves... The people that matter: Football professionals, football journalists and football coaches believe that Messi is the better and greater player

More trophies, more individual awards, higher scoring rate and assisting rates...

No one cares what some nonentities on Chelsea thread on Nairaland think

But when those same football professionals, journalists and coaches voted Messi 5th in the balon dor then their opinion becomes rubbish to you.

thorrvik55:
But u rate the albino Paul Scholes, a one club man that was backed by world class talents and a billionaire club.

And u say it's not sentiment.. Lol

I rate Scholes to where? O because I used him to flog your penalty merchant lampard once or twice you think he means anything to me lol.

Neymar1095:
Messi that went to back to back competition with Argentina scoring 0 goals and keeps dropping 0 goals & 0 assists in all the 4 finals for Argentina. Missi is an Argentine fraud.

I see facts only.

thorrvik55:


Swissh abeg come see ur guy..

So u can't remove sentiment for once

What sentiment? I don't rate a one club man who can't perform when not backed by world class talents and a billionaire club. His performance for Argentina already shows his actual ability. I will pick Suarez and Neymar over him.

BlueRayDick:
I will bin Suarez and Neymar. Messi alone is enough abeg. The little argentine is a cheat-mode player. He can do everything those two can do and more

I don't see the cheat-mode performance he has produced for Argentina or his numerous trophies for his country.

Kimbeast:
This will be interesting. Pick two, bin one?

Keep Neymar and Suarez. Bin the other one

Kimbeast:
This will be the hardest. Keep two bin one.

Throw Ronaldinho into the trash can. Ororo and DeLima are levels above him.

FirstbornWds:
You mentioned me in a post that the OP is a victim of what he wrote. Can't you see that he's confused

Mind your self o

Victim of what?

......

Neymar1095:
Even Neymar has surpassed Ronaldinho. People are blinded by Romanticism.

I will let my favorite cules decide

Cc Tlona, Firstbornwds, sommyroy10, biomustry

madrid5:
google "christian intolerance"

I don't need to Google anything. Even an atheist is intolerant of some beliefs and ideology. Humans in general are intolerant either religious or not. Like I said I doubt you know what you are talking about.

madrid5:
religion unites people in bigotry and prejudice of outside religions, like the crusaders or inquisitions, religions promote ignorance like the people who discriminated against Galileo and Bruno for their scientific findings or like that woman that dumbed her "witch" kid in awka ibom,
Groups that practice religions are actually the poorest and less educated in today's world,also why on earth would u call Saudi Arabia prosperous

I doubt you know what you are talking about.

thorrvik55:
Coming from a Madrid fan, I'm not surprised

Am I wrong?

Swissh:
First of all you said religion is a problem. They showed you a religious country thriving very well and you turned to writing Shalayes and saying it's luck. My friend sit down inside gutter. Religion or no religion does not stop a country from progressing. Blame your corrupt leaders and not Religion.

The bold says it all.

gensteejay:
[s] Apart form petrodollar, hope you know that Saudi realizes billions of dollars every year through mumus that keep visiting the country for religious tourism.

If many of our ancestors in this part of the world were clever, cunning, and pugnacious like the warmongers and expansionists that designed Islam, they would have also imported Olohun to the nooks and crannies of the world as the Supreme God.

And revenues from mumus that do pilgrimage every year to Nigeria to worship our local deities like Osun, Yemoja, Olohun, Chineke as God will be humongous and help spur the country to development.

But African traditional worshippers don't realize that no religion can grow without things like violence (blood shed) and distortion of historical facts, vices their counterparts in Christianity and Islam had long mastered.

Generally, many religious people can't see the danger of wallowing in worshipping the gods/goddesses.

Religion unites people? When a father can even kill or starve his own child for having the guts to challenge religious beliefs or think independently.

Well, this sort of discussion isn't even worth having anyways when most don't even realize that they're slaves and that they've been scammed, indoctrinated from childhood to believe lies.

Smart people, on reaching adulthood, would critique all those dubious religious beliefs they've been fed from childhood and subject them to scrutiny and test of logic.

Religion (mental slavery) will always limit a person's brain development and will always limit a nation's progress.

In 2023 general elections, religion will yet again be one of the key factors that will determine the people that will be chosen to lead the country in various capacities.

So, those that can see and think deeply know the Nigerian situation is really a hopeless one. The rot is too deep.

That's why those that are financially capable are doing everything possible to leave the sinking ship or keeping one foot here and the other in a developed country.

By 2023, a number of regulars here will have left the country, and the brain drain will keep on taking place. But most religious people believe praying for a better Nigeria is the way forward.
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You don't have respect for other people's beliefs Please don't quote me.

madrid5:
religion is the worst prison in the world because it is the only one where it's prisoners want to remain there no wonder Karl Marx called it the opium of the masses.
for instance just ask an average Nigerian what are his plans in making it in life,u are more likely to hear "na god grace" than detailed plans about finances,tech,logistics or even migration,most people do not protest because "god will punish our leaders"imagine if the French didn't behead their king but waited for God to act.
So that's how bad religion and superstition are for national pysche,while absense of religion doesn't necessarily make a person critical,but religion damages reason for majority of people.
It is a fact that the richiest countries are the most atheistic,America is the only first world country where religion is still important,and richiest US states are the less religious(California/NY,masshachusetts).so religion is inversely proportional to wealth/education.

Saudi Arabia/ UAE is predominantly a Muslim state and they are prospering. When you compare groups of people throughout history, the groups that practice a religion are more likely to survive and prosper than those groups that don’t practice a religion. I can’t remember the exact study, but it was cited in Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind. Religion may have its faults but it unites people and helps them grow.

timbros:


See as everybody dey bin Kaka upandan.

At his prime, this guy was unplayable....

Kaka is not different from Ronaldinho. Nostalgic has made Ronaldinho better than he actually was.

donjazet:
Nigeria has had 3 prominent problems since the inception of the country.
Religious bigotry, tribalism and high illiteracy.

Of the 3 major problems, religion is the key problem because it prohibits peaceful coexistence. A religious mind will always be judgemental and suspicious towards other different religions or nonreligious people. Because for the religion to survive and thrive, it has to perceive others as threat.

Religion is soo polarising and divisive that it can hardly ever be united itself. That's why you have a situation where a Catholic will despise Pentecostal churches and the Pentecostal churches will even despise and distrust themselves.

If we somehow eradicate religion and tribalism from our country, every other thing will fall into place.

In advanced countries where those things are minimal, you see progress and unity.

In America for instance, you have situations where an atheist man(Obama) born and raised in Hawaii can become a senator of Illinois, and a man born in newyork can become a senator of Vermont. Even an athestic immigrant from another country all together becomes a governor of the second richest American state California.
Can you imagine that happening in Nigeria?
The moment we can begin to think beyond our religious and tribal difference or eradicate them permanently, we will move forward together.

We have to remove religion from all learning institutions. That will be a good first step.

You are blaming religion on issues that are actually caused by human nature, which affects how people think.

For one humans still like to identify with groups similar to them. We also hold opinions to such a high degree that we often choose to ignore facts that contradict our values and only cling to our values more. This is true whether the values in question derive from the religious group you identify with or political party or any other groups one might identify themselves in including atheists.

madrid5:
nobody won ur soul,u are religious because you were born into a religious society,just like a person will end up Christian or Muslim depending on the parent.

And children born into atheist family?

Kholiwe:
Xavi was and has always been a system player. Him and modric are not mates.

Bwhahahahah only a Barca fan will deny this.