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Christianity EtcRe: Ever Since Hurricane Sandy Has Washed Away New York No One Has Seen Brah Goshen by member18: 7:39am On Nov 07, 2012
We need to check the underworld/heaven to make sure he is still in the land of the living. Can someone provide his picture, let us search the crossing-over-database, so we at least have an idea of what side he is.
He might be in the valley of dry bones,
Christianity EtcRe: A Catholic Statement Downgrading Jesus. by member18: 7:34am On Nov 07, 2012
chukwudi44: So you think people should forgo their sleep because you asked a question on nl? Does it occur to you that most of us will go to work in the morning.life does not revolve around nl alone.


Yes of course Jesus is pysically present in the eucharist.we know this because he said so in the scriptures and has constantly manifested himself in several eucharistic miracles over the years
Okay, that is all i wanted to hear. Which one is forgo sleep? Most of us work now, and some of us are on leave at the moment. Thanks for you response.
Christianity EtcRe: What Do Christians Believe About Dinosaurs? by member18(op): 7:33am On Nov 07, 2012
^^^^Hmn, i still wonder how NOAH MANANGED TO BUILD THAT ARK SEF, ALL BY HIMSELF. NOAH MUST HAVE BEEN A GOD TO BUILD THAT ARK ALL BY HIMSELF.

DINO INSIDE THE ARK? HMN, THE ARK WOULD RATHER HAVE SANK, OR EVERYONE IN THE ARK WILL HAVE BEEN SLAINED, OR THE ANIMALS WILL NOT COMPLETE A PAIR EACH WHEN THEM DEY COMMOTH - DINO GO DON CHOP THEM TIRE.
Christianity EtcRe: A Catholic Statement Downgrading Jesus. by member18: 3:50am On Nov 07, 2012
This one na simple question. IS JESUS THE EUCHARIST OR JESUS IS NOT? NO CATHOLIC CAN BEAT THEIR HAND ON THEIR CHEST AND TELL ME?
Christianity EtcRe: I Fought The Church, And The Church Won. by member18: 3:48am On Nov 07, 2012
Too long for me to read, somewhat mad too i must say, someone should pls summarize this. And where is the source?
Christianity EtcRe: What Do Christians Believe About Dinosaurs? by member18(op): 3:45am On Nov 07, 2012
dj militant: Yeah,me think so too,but man and dinosoar cannot exist at the same time,dinosoars are too large in size,hence man cannot survive in there era.
You mean to say dinosaurs will have been using man to make barbecue abi?

PAGAN 9JA:
man did not exist when dinosaurs did. your hippie guide is a farce. a lie.
good attempt though. but next time plz come up with somethiing better. .
My "pagan friend", what is your give and take on the dinosaur matters? They never existed abi na white maggick man use to control them?
Christianity EtcRe: The 6th And 7th Books Of Moses by member18: 12:38am On Nov 07, 2012
Youngzedd: Aow...

How did I find my self here.
I DON DEY MADT HERE O! THIS THREAD IS FOR HOMO FUTURANS (THE FUTURE MAN IN MY OWN NATIVE LINGUA).

PLEASE CAN SOMEONE ANSWER ME THIS CLEARLY - IS INVOKATION OF ANGELS (WHITE MAGGICK) ALLOWED FOR CHRISTIANS?
Christianity EtcRe: A Catholic Statement Downgrading Jesus. by member18: 10:49pm On Nov 06, 2012
chukwudi44: You should be the one apologising to Jesus for denying the presence of christ in the eucharist
How do we really know that Jesus is in the eucharist?
Christianity EtcMust Read: What Is Speaking In Tongues? A Biblical Analysis. by member18(op): 10:47pm On Nov 06, 2012
Many years ago I visited a church while out of town. At the time I was unaware that it was a charismatic church. When the church services started, it was quite clear that they believed in the gift of tongues. I was urged to speak in tongues and to “give it up” to the Spirit. I needed to speak in tongues to be “baptized with the Holy Ghost.“ As I prayed over this and pondered whether I should try and speak in tongues, nothing happened. I even contemplated faking it. I felt somewhat ostracized because I actually never did speak in tongues. I was praying at the time that, “God, if you want me to speak in tongues, please enable me by the Spirit to do so.“ Nothing ever came out and I felt completely inadequate compared to the other believers who were speaking in tongues that I didn’t understand. There were several speaking at the same time as they were dancing and jumping up and down. To me, it was a little frightening and confusing.
The tongues I heard that night were completely unintelligible and it was an exercise in futility for me to try and understand what was being said. And no one was interpreting the tongues either which made it even worse. The whole assembly, minus me, was in a near frenzy and they were completely lost in their actions.
I can remember reading about tongues in Old Testament times where foreign tongues were not a good sign for Israel at all (Walvoord and Zuck 1984, 539). Foreign tongues were usually a warning to the nation. When I looked at the New Testament, what I found was that tongues are not a babbling of words, but that of a known language. This language was intelligible to those who spoke that language and understood by them.
Speaking in Tongues in the New Testament
The first place that speaking in tongues occur in the New Testament was in Acts 2:1-4: “When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.” The word tongues has a literal translation in the Greek of “languages”. This means that the tongues that were being spoken were those of a known language. The tongues were words with specific meaning and not just babbling. This is clarified in Acts 2:7-11, “Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome, (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!”
So those who heard these tongues or languages were languages that were known and that the believers may not have known how to speak. That was a miracle but the miracle was not for the believers benefit but were a sign for the unbelievers (I Cor. 14:22). These verses were a sign that God used to signify that the Gentiles were receiving salvation to those who did not believe (Walvoord and Zuck 1984, 382).
So clearly, speaking in tongues in the New Testament church were tongues of known languages and not unknown languages or unintelligible sounds. Since many in Judea were bilingual and some even trilingual, it’s not really that surprising that there were many languages being spoken (Walvoord and Zuck 1984, 357). They were praising God in different tongues or languages to give evidence for unbelievers that God was at work in more ethnic groups than just the Jews. This validated the fulfillment of Joel chapter two to the Jews as well (Walvoord and Zuck 1984, 408).
Speaking in Tongues and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit
Acts 10:44-46 also has a reference to tongues: “While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in tongues (literally, languages) and praising God.” Notice that the Holy Spirit was poured out and they were not baptized into the Holy Spirit or received a baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Speaking in tongues is a sign for unbelievers and not what some charismatic churches claim as the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Nowhere in the New Testament is it written that they spoke in tongues and were baptized in the Holy Spirit. For believers, the receiving of the Holy Spirit is a one time event and it is not a sign of being filled up by the Spirit or being baptized into the Holy Spirit. It is precisely for the reason of validating God’s acceptance of the Gentiles to the Jews and this acceptance by God for all people was at a specific time in history (Walvoord and Zuck 1984, 408).
Tongues: A Sign for Unbelievers
Biblical scholars agree that in Acts 19:1-7 and elsewhere that these verses clearly indicate that tongues were intended “to overcome unbelief” (Walvoord and Zuck 1984, 409). They were specifically for unbelievers and to validate Paul’s message and to overcome the listener’s unbelief (Walvoord and Zuck 1984, 408, 409).
Even at the risk of offending some, this reminds me of snake handlers. Some churches take one text out of context and make it a pretext and sadly, the worship is more centered on the gift of tongues or the handling of snakes than it is with Christ being the center of worship. Jesus Christ should always be the center of all worship services and never any gift since Paul tells us not to exalt in any gifts of the Spirit since they come from God anyway.
Taking Text out of Context
Here is a personal note on the gift of tongues and the twisting of scriptures. Sadly, many denominations or churches do not take problematic scriptures and place them against all the scriptures relating to a particular subject to discover the proper context to see whether it is biblically sound or not. This is what is meant by “rightly dividing the Word of God” (II Tim 2:15) and “scripture is of no private interpretation” (II Pet. 1:2). A sound principle is that if there is a problematic scripture or verse; take all the other scriptures that relate to this subject and place them all against the one scripture or scriptures to bring clarity to the subject. If we still can not decide its meaning, then this might be God’s prerogative alone to know about and we have no business trying to inject or infer meaning when God is not clear on the subject. If God has not plainly revealed its meaning in scripture or it is not clarified by other scripture, then this is not revelation from God intended for us and should not be taken as such. Revelation from men is highly questionable and not like the inerrant Word which is infallible. If God had wanted us to fully understand it, He would have revealed it. Some things that are not clear must be for Him alone to know and we have no business trying to decode such enigmatic scriptures into a meaning that we were never intended to know in the first place.
It is apparent that there is sufficient evidence about tongues that they are clearly a sign for unbelievers, Jews or otherwise. They are also a sign that God is at work. The earliest church historians never mention that speaking in tongues continued to occur in the church after all the apostles were gone. Speaking in tongues is a rather recent movement in the 19th century. I speak Spanish and I feel that some people are gifted at learning other languages. My former pastor picked up several African languages at the time he was on mission trips. He had a gift for it. But it was a known language. I can speak in “other” tongues, like English, Spanish, and even some Greek but what sounds like gibberish to those who don’t know them, it is a known language. But these are known languages and I am not just “letting myself go”.
I have been told that I have never been “filled by the Holy Spirit” or been “truly baptized into the Holy Spirit” unless I have spoken in tongues. That is not biblical nor should someone feel less “spiritual” if they don’t speak in tongues. By the way, tongues are the last gift mentioned of all the gifts of the Spirit and love is over and above all other things. In my humble opinion, charismatic’s too often take it to the extreme and belittle those who do not speak in tongues and incorrectly associate their not being filled with the Spirit when this is actually a one-time event at the moment a believer receives the Holy Spirit at conversion. You can not have any more of the Holy Spirit, nor can you have any less of Him. You either have the Holy Spirit or you don’t.
Sources:
1. John F. Walvoord and Roy B. Zuck, trans., The Bible Knowledge Commentary – New Testament. (Colorado Springs, CO.: David C Cook, Publisher, 1984).


Read more: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-is-speaking-in-tongues-a-biblical-analysis/#ixzz2BTunDvL9
Christianity EtcWhat Do Christians Believe About Dinosaurs? by member18(op): 10:40pm On Nov 06, 2012
When Christians are asked by non-believers to reconcile dinosaurs and the account of creation in Genesis, many questions arise. Is the Bible silent about dinosaurs? Why are dinosaurs apparently never mentioned in scriptures? Did dinosaurs live before or during the time of Adam and Eve and mankind?

We should note that the word “dinosaur”, which means terrible lizard, is a relatively new word that was first used in 1842 and was coined by scientist Richard Owen. This is the reason that the word “dinosaur” doesn’t appear in the Bible which was written well before the 1800‘s.

What The Bible Says About Dinosaurs

Dinosaur-like Creatures Mentioned

In the Book of Job, dinosaur-like creatures are mentioned and so they appear to have existed at the same time that Adam and Eve and their descendants existed. Job is an ancient book. If this book were placed in its true chronological order in the Bible, it would reside within the Book of Genesis since Job lived over 4,000 years ago.

In Psalm 74:13 it says, “It was you who split open the sea by your power; you broke the heads of the monster in the waters.” Isaiah 43:20 reads, “The beast of the field shall honor me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen” and he also writes about a monster (51:9).

Specifically, Are Dinosaurs in the Bible?

Job describes what sounds very much like a dinosaur. Read Job 40:15-24:

15 “Look at Behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins, what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze, its limbs like rods of iron.
19 It ranks first among the works of God, yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
20 The hills bring it their produce, and all the wild animals play nearby.
21 Under the lotus plants it lies, hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotuses conceal it in their shadow; the poplars by the stream surround it.
23 A raging river does not alarm it; it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.
24 Can anyone capture it by the eyes, or trap it and pierce its nose?”

Some of the translations say that the word “Behemoth” is an elephant or hippo, but there has never been a hippo or elephant that has a tail like a “cedar” (v 17) which is taken from the cedars of Lebanon. The cedars of Lebanon were valued above all timbers in ancient antiquity. They were 130 feet tall and their stout trunks could be over 8 feet in diameter. What elephant or hippo has a tail that size!? Many ancient dinosaurs were up to 150 feet in length like the Brachiosaurus.

Verse 19 says that this enormous creature ranked first in all of God’s works (v 19). Its size allows it to be unfazed by a “raging river” (v 23). It also appears to be irresistible even to humans or other animals that try to “trap it” (v 24).

Elsewhere, Job (41:1-34) describes a creature that inhabits the seas that some translations have mistakenly translated into the word whale. But any Bible with margins that gives the original translation of the word clearly indicates it is not a whale. What whale has razor sharp teeth like iron that can swallow its prey whole (v 14)? Has anyone ever seen a whale or fossil remains of a whale where the weapons of man can not penetrate (v 26-29)? What whale can destroy by simply passing over their prey (v 30) and has no fear whatsoever of anything (v 31-34)? In 2008 the Natural History Museum in Oslo, Norway revealed one of the largest dinosaur sea predator ever found. It is a Pliosaur Kronosaurus which is estimated to be over 50 feet long. The teeth that remain are still sharp enough to cut wood.

Dinosaurs, Fossilization and Extinction

There are hundreds of early British and French explorers and trappers and American explorers and settlers that wrote down reports of sightings of giant mastodon bones still lying on the ground. Many of the Indians they spoke with mentioned them as being in recent memory. The fact is that fossilization does not take millions of years since under the right conditions a bone, an old boot, and even wood can become filled with minerals fairly quickly. Necessary ingredients for fossilization, even in a few thousand years are these; a quick burial under very deep water or volcanic ash.

Consider the Great Flood of Noah’s time — this would have provided excellent conditions for fossilization of plants and animals. There would have been a rapid burial by millions of tons of water and sediment. The fact is that today there are many dinosaur remains that are still not completely turned in to rock and that have not been fossilized; millions of these have been found as bone. Even today they are finding fish fossils that still have a fishy smell to them. The flood may have been the reason that many of the dinosaurs died out. Even the sea creatures would have died since many of their prey could have perished in the flood.

Conclusion

The more we read the Bible, the more we find that dinosaurs are not inconsistent with the scriptures. They could have died from disease, the flood, or in some cases, hunted into extinction. Regardless, it is obvious that the dinosaurs did roam the earth at one time. It is also clear that the Bible makes mention of some creatures that fit their description. Therefore, Christians belief in the Bible and the knowledge of the existence of dinosaurs, are not incompatible. In fact, they are completely compatible with God being the Creator of all life; plants, animals, insects, and mankind.



Read more: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-do-christians-believe-about-dinosaurs/#ixzz2BTt6KvMP
Christianity EtcWhat Do Demons Want From Us? by member18(op): 10:16pm On Nov 06, 2012
This is a review of a post made on yahoo answers
[Cc]
hmm i was reading abiut summoning demons, (just reading!!!) and it said that demons will always something from you on behalf of them doing something for you, and you have to like offer them something. What would they want, apart from your soul obviously lol

[YellowRose]
Once demon have your soul, then your soul belong to hell once you die. That's if you get into a covenant with them by talking to them about a deal, but of course demons don't do their business like that. LOL. They just simply will do whatever crap to mess with you. However, while you live they want (or try to make) you to go against God by doing bad things and rejecting God. That is why some demons messed with good people (especially Christians) to try to get them to go against God instead of messing with or possessing atheist people, because the demons already won the battle (getting people to be on their side) with the people who are atheists.
Source(s):
Common sense. smiley

[kevin c]
In Ancient Near Eastern religions as well as in the derived Abrahamic traditions, including ancient and medieval Christian demonology, demons are considered "unclean spirits."

But other religions (mostly paganism) considers pretty much all spirits to be demons.

Using the pagan definition, it was thought that demons are here to serve and protect us - BUT, that servitor/protector relationship manifests in ways which are not as expected (kinda like the Faustian tale). In other words, careful what you wish for.

It's definitely not a good idea to summon them if you don't know what you're doing or what you want.
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[Raja]
Demon is a kind of spirit. I guess that ancient people had given names to spirits according to their natures. All spirits (good and bad) have the dominating character. I also guess that demons are great destructive forces. They involve people in evil game and cause destruction. Spirits must not possess human beings without their will or wish. Therefore, they make use of a tiny reason and possess people. Sometimes they involve in cunning activities too to tame people as they wish. Enslaving people and making them to behave as they like are their motives.

[Miss.Murder]
I know from personal experience that they want to use your body and control your mind to do what they want in this earth.. Yeah what Yellow rose said.. I was an atheist and they took over me and made me do bad things... i had to get an exorcism to get rid of them.. i think you shouldn't look for things because you will find them. (bad things) i personally didn't look for it though the place i used to live in
someone opened a door to hell with a ouija board and the demons took over me and i slowly began turning into an atheist and looking for bad things i can't tell you.. either way they wanted me to turn those around me into satanists it was horrible..


[kilroymaster]
What demons want from us is our total destruction, And you also need to remember that all demons are fallen angels that were kicked out of heaven and had all of their angelic supernatural powers taken away.... Also they replaced their supernatural power with a form of paranormal power which believe it or not put them on the same par with mankind...... Also mankind is terrified of demons and that is what give demons their edge over mankind............

[iO]
They want to play humans as pawns in their warfare against GOD.

Demons hate GOD first of all, and anything GOD cares about, like humans.
So to display their ongoing vendetta against GOD, they will do anything to destroy and ruining anything toward which GOD shows love..

This includes pretending to be benevolent entities that grant wishes for a small price; the ultimate goal is to sucker you into this little quid pro quo, or any other game you're willing to play with them until you are a completely ruined travesty as they are.. (The better to hurt GOD with, my sweetie said the big bad wolf)

It's a little like raping and torturing some man's beloved child just because you hate the man. Even better for them is if they can get that child to claim they LIKE it.


[Taylor]
I've read that demons go after people who are particularly spiritual to stop them from doing good.

I've also read that there's really no organization to the demons, and they just do whatever the heck they want, presumably for poots and giggles.
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[!]
To have an opportunity to be free to destroy you. That is the real reason that the demons like you to summon them.

[TruthSeeker]
1. They either want your soul.
2. They want you girlfriend/Family
3. They steal what is precious to you.
It's called fair trade. There are ones who sold their soul for power.
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[Mary Poppins]
Maybe you should not truck with demons, you will end up burned. They're not evil just very tricky and they have absolutely NO sympathy for humans. Infact, I think they feed off of negative energy.

[shonei]
Nothing!They don't exist!
Source(s):
And before all you religious zealots start...JUST DON'T!!

[Pagan]
I personally do NOT believe in Demons in any way.
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[MICHELE M]
Demons want your soul. They want you to think they don't exist...
Source(s):
Life Experience

[Silver wolf]
They hate people and need no other reason to destroy you .
Source(s):
Life
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[Charlie]
Cheese sandwiches!!!
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[Eddy]
they torture you or use you to do evil things .....they might want you to serve them for the rest of you life idk

[gibbers]
apart from your own soul - other people souls
Source: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110322113303AA8lmDD

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