hvnt bn following in quite sometime
@aysuccess....Im soooo impressed

Chartey:
Ok, u impress me more now.

funny

king94: I didn't recover in tym for d debate nd we couldn't find a replacement. Niyi20 is goin solo 2dai nd I'm sure he'd make us proud.

im sorry man
pray God grants you quick recovery

nnachichi: Are u trying to say that part of the so called 'discarded' books contains the command/instruction to observe xmas?Btw,d compilation of the scripture was done carefully thru d help of the Holy Spirit.Even if some books were discarded 4 purposes that were quite paramount then,the scripture i have is just enough 4 me and God has passed on His msg to mankind 2ru it,wat He expects 4m us.As 4 d other thg u talkd abt,there r bible guides and concordances that can help with d intended meaning of some of these verses.If u do some research,u'l appreciate that d word is complete and all scripture is given by inspiration of God.Every thg there serves a purpose/purposes in our earthly life,we shld focus on following strictly every word in it.

dont mind the guy,evry1 knows the Bible original language and 1 of the reasons why we have the Bible is that we wont follow any1's step in serving God but we can follow the scriptures,because the whites brought the religion doesn't mean we should be their lap dog in how we go about it.was it not som1 that preached to the whites also
the reason why the Bible was translated was to avoid the limitation of the understanding of the Bible to those who understand Hebrew alone so that every1,not those whose understand Hebrew alone can exhort their belief by it.

Chartey:
Are you in school right now? Sorry for yesterday. Na really long story. I go tell you.

no im nt,im an oau student, a fresher.

hmmm..nice one
thanks@aysuccess

hmmm..nice one

ebukason3: Well, that was his own personal opinion. December 25 was chosen partly because no one knows the exact date of Christ birth, also because after 25th the world experience longer days, i.e ... the light(CHRIST) entering into the world (jn 1:4-5), partly also to convert the The Roman sun worshipers whom believe that the sun god is the light of the world & usually had their festive on 25th dec. And i know that heaven rejoice over their repentance (Lk 15:7) and it worth celebrating just like the return of prodigal son(LK 15:31-32). In my own case i celebrate christmass because i believe that Christ Jesus is the light of the world (jn 8:12 & jn 9 :5). God made me in his own image image (gen 1:27), in his image am like a light to the world (mat 5:14-16) therefore its my duty to make peace, visit the imprisoned, help the poor, made Christ manifest in whatever i do. I also belive in the sunday sabbath(the first day of the week) because its the day Christ resurrect, penticost, light was made(gen 1:3) and the apostles observe it as its in Acts 20:7 and 1cor 16:2. I have no business with son god for i am in CHRIST JESUS.

abi oo.for that concerning sunday,didnt God say 'Upon the first day of the week......
we know wat follows

FrancisTony: Mr. Mhyke did i say Man shouldn't get married I'm talking about pastors. @bolded, what are your pastors doing then!

Moses wuz called by GOD when he wuz tending his father in law's sheep.why didnt God consider the fact that he was married?nd we both all know the great task that was laid out before Him and the closeness he had with God even coming close to seeing God.
The apostles were called by JESUS,telling them to leave everything behind and follow Him.the calling of the apostles cant b compared to that of any minister and besides,we have men of God that decided to remain unmarried out of their will. Dd the apostles say that any1 who will do God's work must be unmarried?
Jesus,when talking to His disciples about 'divorce' ended up telling them that whosoeva can accept the term of being unmarried should accept and those who can't should not.

FrancisTony: JEREMIAH 52:31-33
31. Now it came to pass in the thirty-seventh year of the captivity of jehoiachin king of judah, in the twelfth month, on the twelfth-fifth day of the month that Evil-merodach king of babylon, in the first year of his reign, lifted up the head of jehoiachin king of judah and brough him out of prison.
32. And he spoke kindly to him and gave him a more prominent seat than those of the kings who were with him in babylon.
33. So jehoiachin changed from his prison garments and he ate bread regulary before the king all the days of his life
So let us forget the bad side of december 25th and celebrate the good side. . Afterall we don't worship the so-called god roman pagans worshipped.

that doesn't change the fact that the day was originally set aside for pagan celebration
if you are gona truly celebrate Christ,y cant u set aside anoda date for that?

agent9:

hmmmmmm.......dats a good and serious question oooo!!!!

no it's not,it's a question without reasoning,a question of som1 who doesn't read and have a full understanding of the Bible
the apostles encouraged marriage bt sed that it's not compulsory to get married as long as u can abstain from fornication
bt if u cant,they sed 'let each man get his wife'
the apostles couldnt get married because they are concecrated for God:s work,they go about preaching they gospel and having a family won't make that convenient. they also said 'a man wt no wife cares for the things of God alone' bt a married man cares for the things of God and also aw to please his wife'
they are solely for God's work.

FrancisTony: where in the bible is it written that we should drive car Car is idolatory because nobody owned a car in the bible.

people indeed perish because they lack knowledge.
didnt they use the mode of transportation they had back then??
so eat stops us from using the ones we have now.
aw can u say such a thing?it sounds so childish.

jeffoe: which doctrine the one that changes when the pastor changes his mind may be on the day he wakes up from the wrong side. of his bed or the public display of religiosity and self righteousness of the pharisee

how does that partain to deeper life?
everything we teach is strictly by the Bible

snoopy:

Oga architect, I must commend ur gallantry sir you soldiered on and endured the tirade painstakingly ...but here's a brotherly advice tho architect to architect, don't ever argue with your jurors like this o, save that prowess for occasions like this

thanks
wl b looking forward to that

Epaul: i'm sorry for that statement myke. Was taken over by the tide of the debate. I will withdraw that statement, that i promise myke..~ Shakes his hand~ you are a brother.

now that's cool.
u guys are gona win d debate anyway,u shuld be petting me.*winks*

Epaul: oh my God! How can you connect the present experience of a person who just had an electric shock and became pale to his prior childhood experience?

oMG.do you just decide to misinterpret me or you can't just help it.
i typed 'MIGHT have a connection to prior experiences' i didnt say 'will have a connection to prior experience'
you look refined enough in english to me,can't undastand why you didnt understand that.

Epaul: it means you have a low comprehension. Go back and read post again. I never insinuated anything of such. Funny enough you were the one that did when you insinuated that their childhood experience were the cause of their incerceration

though the debate's over i would reply that
due to the fact that because to people who had d same background dont necessarily end up the same way,i use a word that denotes probability 'MIGHT' in my posts.
in that particular post,i stated the probability.
and what's up with the insult?

thank God for seeing us through.
if only chartey had been here or at least submitted his essay.

Epaul: so since some of them don't have one, you are sayin there's no other way to find out about their childhood life? Wrong sir! Does the christian, my lord Jesus have an autobiography? No. So does it mean we stil do not have an insight about his life. Myke, the point is that it is unequivocally clear that ones childhood experience does not influence how one would turn out..considering the fact that later experience can alter our lives.

that's just it,u fail to agree that life experiences goes on a chain.
the later experiences you refered to might have a connection with prior experience.

Epaul: past experience that made them keep those companies? What are you saying? So if i'm a friend to my course mate, you mean to opine that i'm doing so because of past experience? How pathetic! Nw, even the rest inmates that are not there because of bad companies, can you authoritatively state that it was their childhood experience that was the cause? If yes, we would be eager to see you prove it..

you fail to understand me.
your post speaks out one sentence
"All inmates are what they are because of their present companies'
you fail to associate their present with their past.
the case of room mate is lame and totally out of my point

Obinoscopy: @Mhyke, we've seen case scenario where one becomes very successful in life even without parental care. The likes of Steve Jobs comes to mind. So what can say about such scenario?

i have already emphasized that it's nit firm to use peolpe's life as instances.
And not everyone like steve jobs turned out like him
by the way,steve jobs might have encountered situations during his childhood that have maneuvered his life.he might have used some opportunities to his advantage through pastel experiences.i dont know anything about his biograpgy so im sorry i cant elucidate my point.

Obinoscopy: @Mhyke, we've seen case scenario where one becomes very successful in life even without parental care. The likes of Steve Jobs comes to mind. So what can say about such scenario?

i have already emphasized that it's nit firm to use peolpe's life as instances.
And not everyone like steve jobs turned out like him
by the way,steve jobs might have encountered situations during his childhood that have maneuvered his life.he might have used some opportunities to his advantage through pastel experiences.i dont know anything about his biograpgy so i cant elucidate my point.

Miscellaneous: @mhyke reply the judge

i can't find the judge's question

Epaul: what about autobiography written by the person? Are you saying that too is not reliable?

it depends on if you choose to believe all you read.some are,but not all those who you cited have an autobiography and not all in their shoes have one.

Epaul: you saw what you wanted to see and didn't your take time to glean through it properly to have an incisive grasp of my example. The example didn't say the cause of the incarceration of every inmates in prison is as a result of bad companies..the point is that we are bound to see some inmates whose present predicament is as a result of the bad companies they keep. Or do u want to tell us that there are no such case?

there is but i am asking you think about past experiences that might have made them keep those present companies. and like you said,'some inmates'
not even 'most' and definitely not 'all'

Epaul: take a look at the bolded..I'm afraid, you are wrong. Google the life of mandela, michael jackson, even jenifer lopez and check. Biography of popular people are not invariably skeletal, the writers always make reference to other works on their subject ranging from interviews, autobiographies etc. And as such your assertion is wrong

you didn't consider that they might not have been outrightly honest during the interviews.there are personal experiences they wouldn't like to make public.
we can't claim to know the insides of a person's life like the person himself through some books printed in black and white.the most biographies offers is a clear insight.

Epaul: how pathetic! Take for example a proud person who escaped death in an accident and therefore changed his outlook about life. Base on your question, how does his past childhood experience determine the accident which is in this case is the present experience? Wrong question again.

whaooo good point but you didn't think his pride was induced in him during his growing up
maybe through family status, personal acheivement or being not associated with religion?

. Take a field trip
to our prisons and you are bound to see
inmates whose incarceration was largely as
a result of the wrong company they kept
after their childhood..quote epaul

some of this prisoners could have been born in the street leaving them with no generous option with the company they keep

some might have had parents or guardian who failed to admonish them about the companies they keep when they were children
so you are saying that they would blame it on after-childhood companies without thinking about past childhood experiences that made them keep those companies

Epaul: take a look at the bolded. You just agreed some experience is the cause of her later outcome and not her childhood experience. Which is true. I agree with you. So it means her childhood experience was not responsible which furthe support my point that a person's later outcom is influenced by some of his/her present experience as against childhood experience.

lots of laughs,re-read my post,i have modified it stating an instance.you got it twisted.

Epaul: take a look at the bolded. You just agreed some experience is the cause of her later outcome and not her childhood experience. Which is true. I agree with you. So it means her childhood experience was not responsible which furthe support my point that a person's later outcom is influenced by some of his/her present experience as against childhood experience.

lots of laughs,re-read my post,i have modified it.you got it twisted.

Epaul: oh dear! Are you insinuating that biography is not reliable? How did the world learn about the life of late nelson mandela? Did they grow up with him? Your question about whether i grew up with jenifer lopez was off the rail. There are many many ways to learn about a person's life and of such ways is through biographies[/color]

that's so naive.the biography just details the coating not the inside.i am not dening that jennifer lopez didnt go off the rails but can you prove what influenced that character?NO!
some experience might have triggered it along the line
e.g assuming that i was poor as a child,if ilater turn out rich,it doesn't mean i'l take pity on the poor because i might have been ridiculed by rich folks when i was a child which imbibed my current behaviour.
my biography would say i was poor and humble but i became rich and arrogant
it wont state the reason behind my arrogance