₦airaland Forum

larride: its funny really.


Congrats to Abu and Mhyke.

larride: Of course, we all know that the military don't work with the constitution so that shouldn't be a criteria to judge them both. I gave example of Gaddafi who is a maximum ruler and yet achieved more than any civilian rule we have ever had in Nigeria. Its on record that things were better economically during the military regime than now the civilian regime, the only thing that works against military regime then was human rights issue but we are talking of development here and not human right issues. Overall I respect your judgment.

larride: I beg to disagree, I gave instance and prove that though autocratic has its own problems we were better off it which even Mhyke himself slightly agreed too. I'm not against the judgment because you guys gave it as you deem fit. As simple as that. Cheers.

maclatunji: Would you prefer a developed country with limited tolerance for dissent to a country that allows expressions of all ideas but fails to develop?

sapientia1: cohesion is the state of working together..and the military maintain absolute discipline within every aspect of government because they were trained men, they had discipline and what it takes to rule.

maclatunji: Mhyke and Resxul, how do you explain the slow delivery of a better standard of living for Nigerians since the return to democracy in Nigeria since 1999?.

larride: But we can go back to the barber once the hair is full.

larride: What about Bola Ige?

sapientia1: THIS I COMPLETELY VIEW AS A TYPICAL "CIVILIAN MENTALITY!" so you mean things should stay the way they were? No developments? Is this what our democratic leaders should do? Well am not surprised, after 14 years of civilian rule, we still remain behind! No acheivement to show for it! Oh, what a GOVERNMENT!

sapientia1: Then what protest? Please tell me, maybe one, two, three or four

larride: Good!!! So in your own words after 14yrs of civilian rule, nothing has been done to upgrade or set up new refineries, that means CIVILIAN RULE HAS FAILED US in that stage. Yes we need the military to come help us upgrade our refineries and set up new ones since our civilian government can't do it. You can now see that democracy has been under-developing us?

larride: YES!!! Things were adequately okay. There was enough food to eat, our pipe borne water were working, there is constant power supply during those military era, how then did we get to where we are right now? No pipe borne water, Electricity is non existent.

Who set-up those refineries?

Why after over 14yrs, No civilian government has been able to set up any refineries for us?

sapientia1: I'm waiting for RESXUL to answer my question.

sapientia1: oh! So you mean lecturers were owed salaries for months and they kept mute during the military era? You'll have to make a research my friend

larride: The bolded. I'm not holding the civilian regime accountable for what happened during the military era but i'm asking you why THE CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SET UP OR UPGRADE ANY OF OUR REFINERIES?

sapientia1: yeah, protests happens and it'l always happen, it turns bloody and the same applies to civilian government. The fact is we've not gotten it right in this civilian government. ASUU has been on strike for six months and has been going on strike for close to four years in a decade. All these NEVER happened in the military era

larride: Then we can also argue for the military that they are ordered to keep the orderliness, right? This also render your argument about violence null and void. Since the military are also preserving law and order

larride: I asked you a straight-forward question, which administration would you prefer given their recorded achievement.

a. Jonathan (Civilian)
b. Gaddafi (Maximum dictatorship)

A simple A or B will suffice.

larride: And yet Jonathan had to ordered Soldiers to Ojota to stop anyone from protesting anymore about the subsidy crisis? What's the difference with that of the military you are trying so hard to crucify? How many times has the Police disrupted peaceful protest against the presidency while they claim they are protecting law and order?

larride: And yet Jonathan had to ordered Soldiers to Ojota to stop anyone from protesting anymore about the subsidy crisis? What's the difference with that of the military you are trying so hard to crucify? How many times has the Police disrupted peaceful protest against the presidency while they claim they are protecting law and order?

larride: Mhyke, you haven't answered the following questions:

1. After over 14yrs, why hasn't the civilian government set up new refineries or rather upgrade the ones we have before (which was set up by the military).

2. Given their recorded achievement, which administration would you prefer, Jonathan (Civilian) or Gaddafi (Maximum dictatorship).

I await your answers.

sapientia1: ...mhyke hasn't answered my last question but I want him to remember that ASUU was formed in the military era, and I charge you to give an example where Lecturers were murdered on protest in the military regime.

larride: You cannot claim a statement to be a general fallacy without providing fact to back it up. In your own words yourself you said


i already did in my expalanation.

larride: You cannot claim a statement to be a general fallacy with providing fact to back it up. In your own words yourself you said



If you claim those words to be fallacy then i can claim that your write up are based on fallacy since the statement is made by you?

larride: I think you need to recheck those prices you quoted. Abacha was the first Head of State that decreased the price of fuel from #5 to #3.25K that's about 35% decrease in price after he took power from the interim government of shonekan. When OBJ resumes power a civilian president he hike fuel price from the uniform #20 to #30 before he later brought it back to #22. At the end of his tenure fuel sells for #75. All over the world right now oil sales is on the high side and still yet we are not feeling the increase in oil sales rather we are riddled with under-developed. Its on record that during the military era, things are quite okay for the average Nigerian, there's enough of food to eat, there constant power supply which is now crippled under the civilian government. If we are to put the military regime with that of civilian rule in Nigeria side by side, I'm sure you will agree with me that democracy has failed us.

Abu Mikey:

Mhyke , please answer this question,as posted to You from Sapientia1

sapientia1: Resxul said the military rulers doesnt treat protesters with smiling faces, well we all know the same applies to this democratic government in Nigeria. Last month, ASUU members were severally disturbed and stopped from protesting by the NIgerian police, can you explain some parts am missing from this @resxul?