Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 2:03pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: that's where the identity of God, I talked about comes into play. What God are you referring to? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:57pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Contrary to your opinion, your fellow Max, in another thread alluded to God being Supreme and your statements implies an absolute God.
And its logical consequence is self explanatory Oga my discussion with you is not about Max. Did you say that God is absolute? Yes or no? Which God were you referring to? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:55pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Come and see GRAMMAR o! 
Jesus said:
Nobody is good except one, God. Luke 18:19
Do you agree with Jesus Christ?  This guy would have fought Jesus on earth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:52pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: That's your problem not mine. Absolutism is universal so when you allude to it then it is eternally and universally holding!!!! We're you not the one that said that God is absolute? What God were you referring to? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:50pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: You are wasting your time!!!
Better spit out what is doing you.
You still have to justify that absolutely good remark of yours Oga the God of the bible and his commands are absolutely good. Do you have a problem with that? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:49pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Disclaimer:
I am a proud christian that believes in God.
Since they both rely on absolute statements hinting that because God commanded it so then it is absolutely good.
I brought up other instances of God which also commanded their followers and thus does that make their actions absolutely good?
So if he alludes to the bible as a basis of absolute proof for an absolutely good action then other texts can be likewise used!!!
Hence in order for him to continue using the bible as a statement of fact he must recant his original "absolute statement" as it is self contradictory.
He is also hinted at the instances of "God's word in the bible as a source of absolute proof" without empirical methods for deriving or proving if all of what in the bible were God's word.
His standard of absolutism negates his personal bias!!!
And if you can use that then what stops other scriptures 👀 from being used.
Hence live by the standard you have set.
As a consequence, his initial premise is indeed not a valid absolute statement!!! Are the instances that you brought up referring to the God of the bible? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:47pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Truly we have gifts in men!  Yes oo baba....I want him to use his own hand to destroy his faith and believe in the bible and God to expose to himself who he really is. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:41pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:40pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: It's self explanatory, if you have any indepth knowledge then add!!! I don't have any....explain...I don't understand that statement. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:37pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: I think Jesus alludes to the contrary by hinting at things not being ideal, when he said it is not the will of the Father that any should perish!!! Explain what he meant by that. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:37pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Haaaaaaaaaa, see people who wants to claim they are my brothers in Christ o!
Jesus came to DEFEND everything his father did and said "no one is GOOD except God" But see someone claiming Christian who can't stand up for the deeds of God recorded in the Bible! 
He even said he's not sure if God ordered the Israelites to do what is written inside the Bible in black and white o!  🤣🤣🤣you see am. Tomorrow dem go say na dem be true Christians. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:35pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Exemplify further. You brought it up state the difference!!! You used both terms on your submission. Do they mean the same thing? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:35pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: I'm still waiting how it's absolutely good? I'm still waiting for how the God of the bible is absolutely not good. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:34pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: You mentioned it, so bring the burden of proof Oga is there a difference between murder and killing? Yes or no? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:34pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Irrelevant conclusion.
False conclusion!
His absolute statement made me take up an objective stance.
Now the onus is on him to defend his absolute statement!!! No be only onus....also prove to me that the God of the bible is not absolutely right. I'm waiting |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:31pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Enlighten, you just brought it up Go and look for it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:31pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: My brother i'm learning a lot from you o!
So David and Jesus whom he has been saying went to war are also evil and working for an evil God nah!  🤣🤣🤣🤣 na so we see am oo |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:30pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Chai!
See someone who wants to speak in behalf of the Bible God!  🤣🤣🤣you sef shock? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:29pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: It was Absolutely good🤕!!!
Well that's your dilemma!!!
God deemed it absolutely good to murder nations!!!
Technically it is claimed, just like other books of the same kind🤔 that God alluded to such!!!
How then can I prove that God even said such?
God absolutely sanctioned killing!!!🤕 "He made sure incase the Jews and christians missed it, then the Muslims will not."
🤔This objective stance is rather uplifting Someone on this thread said there is a difference between killing and murder? Do you agree? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:28pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: I shock say someone who claims to believe in the Bible fit talk this kain thing o!
No wonder Jehovah called His true worshipers in this end time HIS WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15
How do you expect someone like this to speak convincingly about the GOODNESS of Jehovah before unbelievers? Psalms 34:8
Na wah o!  🤣🤣🤣do you see the effectiveness of using questions? It exposes alot |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:22pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: Exactly!  This Gabrielshow24 guy now has started showing his true color towards God and the bible. You would think that he was a defender of God and the bible when he started his discussion on this thread. But he is gradually being exposed. Just watch and follow our discussion as I expose him. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:19pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Don't play dumb!!!
You know better than to do this.
"Your statement alludes to God's absolutism"
And that has been your yardstick for determining the murder of hundreds of thousands of men and women; as absolutely good🤨 So you are saying that God murdered thousands of men and women, right? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:14pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: My dear it's not that easy!!! Am on the stance of the absolute!!!
And we are living and judging things through absolutism!!!
After all God is SUPREME 👀 and ABSOLUTE!!! What do you mean by God is absolutely? Explain. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:13pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: "The thoughts of a man’s heart are like deep waters, But the discerning man draws them out" Proverbs 20:5
Hmmmmmmm, you have proved me wrong by trying to answer their questions instead of using thought provoking questions so expose them! Yeah...that's the best approach. Always look out to attack their motives by asking questions. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:12pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Contrary to your premise, it appeals to authority instead; God's authority!!!
The identity of God🤔, we haven't quite sorted out yet!!!
Now, you have a problem when I take an objective stance on the subject matter.
After all absolute statements are objective 🤧 not subjective since you didn't take that into account initially, this statement falls flat.
You and I are going to create devices to ascertain and deduce what is absolutely good!!! 😁 Lol....oga if you are not here for God and the bible, let me know on time so that I know what I am doing. Have you not be speaking on behalf of the bible here since? Do you want to denounce God and the bible now? Yes or no? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:11pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: The same person who wants to speak for Jesus Christ o but killing doesn't concern Jesus.
Some people are just mischievous!  Don't mind....all his arguments on this thread is to discredit what Jesus told his disciples about not taking up arms to fight. He wants to prove that Jesus did not take all logical circumstances into consideration before giving that command. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:08pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: This is rather vain.
It seems you are in a logical quandry and there is no way out!!!
Hence you want to return to the initial premise by adding context!!!
You made it absolute; it has become absolute.
If you don't know the meaning of absolute kindly look it up!!! Explain what absolute means. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:08pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: He is even trying to hide under whatever other religions do in the name of "GOD" but he's been arguing over what they claim is from God o!  Don't mind him....that is why it is good to use questions to expose their motives Herr. They think That they are smart and that is why they complain about my questions because it exposes who they really are at heart. They have no love for Jesus command. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:05pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Then that's not absolutism. It's not subjective but rather objective🤔 Oga all my submissions here have been based on the bible and you know it. You've claimed to have a logical posit based on the bible. So why are you running now?🤣🤣 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:04pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Don't appeal to religion!!!
I hold a logical standpoint, without bias, because it's an absolute statement!!! Oh does the Bible not appeal to religion? Is your logical standpoint not based on the bible? If yes, I have no discussion with you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:01pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
MaxInDHouse: So he doesn't even know that there are many Gods! 1Corinthians 8:5
That's why he thinks people killing people are fighting for their rights and God is backing both sides.
This is becoming more interesting!  Very interesting my brother. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Thou Shall Not Kill,does Judgement For Killing Applies To Military Men by Michael547(m): 1:01pm On Dec 31, 2024 |
Gabrielshow24: Now I need to prove?
🤔 That's becoming subjective! Yeah....from the Bible. |