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Anonimoux:
They are under the umbrella of Christ but their own calling is quite unique because they are Apostle and by the help of God Almighty they pushed themselves beyond the ordinary in order to host dimensions of God.
Priesthood is serious business it's not for everyone but only those who are willing to walk the walk.

Do these pastors agree on biblical doctrines?

Alsenora:
A sage once said "conscience is an open wound; only the truth can heal it." Find the truth and hold on to it as you understand.

Lol......so the truth is all about individual understanding?
Your analogy clearly shows that there is no fake pastor anywhere and ot also prove that All pastors are true pastors according to their individual understanding of the scriptures even though they contradict each other. That is actually weird and funny.

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SmellingAnus:
He told you who not to vote for there and who to vote for.... If you didn't get the message from the two videos/links o posted, many others got the message ... Have a great Sunday

Please mention who he said that we should vote for out of all the about 18 presidential aspirant.....You are clearly been ambiguous just like Ibiyeomie.....Ibiyeomie himself said God will tell him who to vote for on election day and you are here saying he mentioned who people should vote for......what kind of claim is that?

Alsenora:
Sure.They are born of flesh like us.

Wow.....so the truth has not been found yet?

Harddiskng:
Read and comprehend - the bolded clearly stated that not every Christian is an actual or genuine Christian, that was the point.

and the final part of my write clearly states reasons for poverty of genuine Christians

But it seems you just want pick out an argument where there is none.

Your question is obviously a stupid question cuz i even stated the story of a genuine “man of God” (from the Old Testament) that was poor.

So if a genuine Christian today does not tithe but live a sinless life, can he or she be rich?

Alsenora:
Everyone is enjoined to seek the truth to be free; including the preachers.

So pastors contradicting themselves clearly shows that they are still looking for the truth and that they've not found it yet?

yomi531:
U mustn't agree with him na. Na u sabi. I was only trying to correct one guy that said papas preaching was boring. Like wtf. Its just like saying u don't enjoy watching City play ball. U will be a fo*l to say something like dat

So if a pastor or church does not agree with Oyedepo, can we say that the pastor or church is true?

Harddiskng:
The poor will always be among you and the people of God perish cuz of lack of understanding.

There is no religion on earth that doesn’t have poor people.

Is it every so called “Christian” that pays tithe or lives a sinless life style? Of cuz not but we still call them “Christians” lol

The fact that you have malaria drug in your house, does that make you automatically free from malaria? You have to look for that drug, find it and put that bitter drug in your mouth. That is where most are lacking.

Remember the Old Testament - Elisha and the widow of the “Poor” prophet of God, whose children were sold into slavery. That man serve God but was poor: 2 Kings 4:1-25

First, you must understand It was the fault of that prophet of God for being poor. For all things are available to the children of God. Ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find. It was after the prophet’s death and many discomfort the wife went to look for a solution: it is like having a boil on your ass then ignoring it till it become as so big you can’t even sit down, does it have to get to that!?

Secondly, you don’t even need to look far, look at the OP. Who calls prosperity part of the gospel “evil”. Your hands can NEVER touch what your mind can’t accept!

At the bolded......so every christian that is poor does not pay tithe and live a sinful lifestyle? Yes or no?

yomi531:
Na ur mouth I hear that one oo. Tell me more bro....

Oh......so you mean that there are other true churches like winners in Nigeria that don't agree with Oyedepo?

SmellingAnus:
https://www.nairaland.com/7665046/escobar-osama-bin-laden-rule this is just one of them... Even someone not so smart will understand what he is saying so I believe you will understand this ...

Below is another video of him concerning the election

https://www.nairaland.com/7236599/just-david-ibiyeomie-tells-church

I just finished watching the video on the link you sent to me. Ibiyeomie never told his members who to vote for. He clearly stated that he himself will vote for anyone that God showed him. So how do we know that people did not eventually vote for the aspirants that God showed them?

Mummyfour:
my brother I can't really explain it. But what I know is that if you are filled with the holy spirit,you will be discerning enough to know the real word of God.
And that is why a lot of people will not attend Jeremiah omotofufeyin's church, while others will attend and even purchase his miracle items.

I had gone to a church once, where the pastor asked me to bring 16 seeds for prayers. And when I asked what type of seeds ( expecting to hear beans or corn)😂, the man said 16k. I left that church and never went back there. It was my first time there. I was invited by a friend. Now some people would have paid the 16k and continued going there but not me.
And for some men of God, they just preach according to their own human understanding and not according to the leading and teaching of the holy spirit

So are you saying that there is no way one can actually know the true church, we should just go to any church that we are individually comfortable with?

yomi531:
if u say So bro. In winners, u don't just come to church with a big bible. U also come along with ur writing materials (book and biro). Services in winners can be likened to a lecture class in the University. Bros winners dey break down scriptures. Winners will let u know its not a sin to be rich. Winners will make u know u shouldn't glorify poverty in any guise. After all said and done, there's always an Alter call at the end of every Service. Been a proud winner since 1996.

From your information, it shows clearly that winners is the only true church in the world. Is that correct?

Anonimoux:
What an amazing list but I am shocked that APOSTLE JOSHUA SELMAN Isn't on this list to be honest. Could there be a reason for that please tell me oh.
Coz honestly these are the same people I listen to also

Apostle Joshua Selman

Apostle Michael Orokpo

Apostle Effa Emmanuel Isaac

Apostle Femi Lazarus

Apostle Philip Cephas

Apostle Arome Osayi

Prophet Joel Ogebe

Dr. David Ogbueli (This Man I see him as my Daddy, he teaches as if he sit with God personally)

These are the people I can listen to their messages for hours, the dexterity and the oratorical prowess with which they communicate the hallowed oracles of God is just amazing. You would easily know that these are men that have done business with the immortals and the Luminaries of Zion...

God bless

Why are all these men not under the same umbrella of christ.....why are they in different ministries that causes division by contradictory biblical doctrines?

Arrowhead71:
So prosperity message is Antichrist according to you, therefore people like you have no reason complaining about the poverty level that APC has brought on Nigeria, so from today you and all your generation will live and die in poverty so that you will not have anything to do with Antichrist

Is prosperity doctrine the key to solving Nigeria's economic woes? If yes, why are we blaming Tinubu for hardship, could it be that we are suffering because there are not enough prosperity preachers?

yomi531:
U no know wetin u dey talk. No preacher in naija knows the bible like Oyedepo. He speaks with Authority. The way he speaks, makes him sound arrogant to many. Na why una hate am. He speaks truth to Power. I Stand to be corrected , no church in Nigeria performs feet washing and other mysteries of the kingdom.

Do you mean that he is the one that has the correct sound doctrine out of all other churches and pastors?

Alsenora:
Every preacher is called to shepherd specific flock of 'men'. Just as you feel drawn to one another fellow might not be spiritually tilted but to another whose message you may find less appealing...

Why do preachers today teach contradictory biblical doctrines?

vincentont:
This is one of the reasons I don't engage with christians blindly. All men of God that was called has a mandate given to them by God. That is why some churches has their Mandate for everyone to read. I remember when pastor adeboye said RCCG branches will be in every 5km or so, I said to myself then I don't think it's possible but look at what is happening. If God said it, He alone will perfect it.

So why do the men of God not agree on biblical doctrines?

SmellingAnus:
in what way is Pastor Ibiyeomie worse cos there is none of his services that he doesn't preach about repentance and leading people to Christ... Except you just watch cut and join versions of him.... That is not to say he is perfect but at least he warned us of the consequences of electing the wrong person... As fot Bishop Abioye, He is very sound... I first stumbled on his message by mistake cos I asked a winners member to send mp3 of Oyedepo's message, she ended up sending me that of Abioye and I loved him from that moment as a sound teacher years ago... Sorry for typos

Did pastor ibiyiemie mention any right person to vote for that was on the ballot?

Harddiskng:
You believe the gospel of prosperity is anti-christ.

It is clear You are very delusional about your standing in Christ

Apart from the Spirit of error, operating in your mind, let’s see if you have any academic competence. Read the verse below out loud

Luke 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free

Question:

If freedom is to prisoners
Recovery of sight is to the blind
What sort of “good news” is to the poor?

So why are there poor Christians today?

Frigga13:
Thank you .

This is what many Christian’s are yet to understand… and reason Christian’s call it “ God’s Calling”

He calls for them to deliver his vision according to his will.. all these are spread out in the Bible .. but most time ..reading that Bible is so hard .. so they just hear what the preacher man says .. and takes it .

Christianity is no joke .. but some humans has turned it to jokes

So why do different pastors today have contradictory biblical doctrines?

Nyanabo2:
I’m just now obsessed that he is a hyena in a sheep clothing. I hate it when Christian’s claim this holier than thou attitude. Each Pastor called by called is giving a Mission and a Vision.

Bishop Oyedepo mandate given to him by God is to liberate the world from the devil's oppression through the preaching of the word of faith.

Why don't pastors agree on biblical doctrines?
How can we know a fake pastor?

bdon123:
I was a member of winners for so many yrs before i left dem wit their church business.I always preferred Abioye than Oyedepo.I hav know Abioye prowess for over 20yrs.Goto Goshen at Nasarawa state n see d crowd Abioye pulled after that church was established.That place floods like canaan land .Abioye na correct preacher i wont lie.

Was Abioye part of the so called church business?

Mummyfour:
if you want to know another pastor that preaches the sound undiluted word, check out pastor Peter Balogun of THE CITIZENS CHURCH ABUJA (TCC). That man is sound. Check him out on you tube. Or just The citizens church

Why don't pastors teach the same 'sound undiluted word'? Why the contradictions in their teachings?

Alliswell248:
God bless all his servants working tirelessly for His glory.
I respect all MOG, and I won't criticize them , pray for them, even if they did something wrong.....this is beyond me.

I love Oyedepo
I love Abioye
I love Eneche
I love Chris
I love every child of God.

Have you ever wondered why the MOG never agree on bible teachings?

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Daniel058:
These are men of God I can comfortably listen to their messages

David OGBUELI

Arome OSAYI

CHRIS OYAHKILOME

MICHAEL OROKPO

JOHN ANOSIKE

FEMI LAZARUS

JOEL OGEBE
LAWRENCE OYOR

ISAAC EFFA
APOSTLE VICTOR



The one I can really follow their teachings re just 3 ,DAVID OGBUELI, AROME OSAYI AND MICHAEL OROKPO

I can't really follow motivational speakers,they will end up making me feel that God does not exist

So why don't all these pastors agree on what is sound doctrine?