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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 8:19pm On Sep 10, 2024
tctrills:
Do you even read what you wrote. The Father and the Son are one. The laws of the Father and the Laws of the Son are One. They don't have different set of rules.
I shouldn't be telling you this nah?
I never said they have different set of rules. I am asking you if Jesus said he was the one that gave the old laws? Was it Jesus that made the statement in Matt 3:17?





It's clear that you did not understand me answer or you have forgotten your question.
First do you understand that the laws in Exodus 22 are legal laws or government laws? If you do, then I can explain better to you
Oga you are funny ooo....Is the legal or government law in Exodus 22:16, 17 no longer from Christ to his Christian followers?
Oga has Jesus fulfilled the law in Exodus 22:16, 17? Yes or no?
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Michael547(m): 8:11pm On Sep 10, 2024
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 7:39pm On Sep 10, 2024
tctrills:
So do you have to be the same person to be one?
Again he said, if you see me, you have seen the Father.
Their plans aims, opinions are 100% the same. That's what it means.
If you ask Jesus Christ a question, you will get exactly the same answer as the Father will give you. They don't operate under different laws.
Hope you understand now.
So where did Jesus tell you he was the one that gave the law because he and his father are one?
Was it Jesus that made the statement in Matt 3:17?




The laws in Exodus 22 were legal laws of state, Jesus Christ told you, my kingdom is not of this world.
Even you know this so why ask what you know.
Oga what do you mean laws of state? Does the law not belong to Christ? Is the law in Exodus 22:16, 17 not for Christians wherever they live?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 7:31pm On Sep 10, 2024
tctrills:
So do you have to be the same person to be one?
Again he said, if you see me, you have seen the Father.
Their plans aims, opinions are 100% the same. That's what it means.
If you ask Jesus Christ a question, you will get exactly the same answer as the Father will give you. They don't operate under different laws.
Hope you understand now.
So where did Jesus tell you he was the one that gave the law because he and his father are one?
Was it Jesus that made the statement in Matt 3:17?



Has the law in Exodus 22:16, 17 been fulfilled in Christ? Yes or no?
The laws in Exodus 22 were legal laws of state, Jesus Christ told you, my kingdom is not of this world.
Even you know this so why ask what you know.
Oga what do you mean laws of state? Is the law in Exodus 22:16, 17 not for Christians wherever they live?
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Better Christians Than The Rest Of Us by Michael547(m): 6:55pm On Sep 10, 2024
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Autos › Re: ❌️NEVER TRY TO BUY A CAR IN LAGOS WITHOUT MY PROFESSIONAL INSPECTION SERVICE ❌️ by Michael547(op): 6:24pm On Sep 10, 2024
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 6:22pm On Sep 10, 2024
tctrills:
He doesn't need to make any claim. He is the Word of God. It's so obvious that you only need to read your Bible to understand this. Again he told you that " I and my Father are one." This alone answers your question. The laws of the Father are the laws of the Son they don't operate under different laws, every Christian knows this.
You yourselves have said here that the father and the son are not the same person. So Where did Jesus tell you that he was the one that gave the laws that he was changing in Matthew 5:21-31?



Have the laws been fulfilled in Christ? If yes, you have your answer. If No, you know what to do.
So please answer that question.
Has the law in Exodus 22:16, 17 been fulfilled in Christ? Yes or no?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 5:46pm On Sep 10, 2024
tctrills:
This is an already answered question. We both agreed that Jesus is the word of God so that answers your question. The old testament contains the word of God.
For your second question, read your Bible for more these are just a few examples.
For your first question, that should be a question to Jesus Christ. But he is the law giver and he has the right to change it. I will not question his authority and you shouldn't either.
From your comments above, Where did Jesus claim to have given the laws that he later changed?


How does changing the laws mean that Jesus is changing himself please explain.
The answer to the above question is in your comment below.
tctrills:
Another simple way to look at it.

Do you agree that Jesus Christ is the Word of God?
If so, the entire old testament has the word of God and those who followed the words of the prophets were following the word of God (Jesus Christ)
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This is the simplest way I can explain it to you.
Hope you know that when the bible talks about the laws, it refers to the law of Moses and not the entire old testament? So you need to be specific.
Jesus Christ says
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
So you are still required to honour you father and mother, and not have any God before him and we can go on and on until all be fulfilled as he said.
Are we obligated to obey all the laws in Exodus chapter 22 since following them means following Christ?
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 3:32pm On Sep 10, 2024
tctrills:
Another simple way to look at it.

Do you agree that Jesus Christ is the Word of God?
If so, the entire old testament has the word of God and those who followed the words of the prophets were following the word of God (Jesus Christ)
This is the simplest way I can explain it to you.
tctrills:
For your second question, read your Bible for more these are just a few examples.
For your first question, that should be a question to Jesus Christ. But he is the law giver and he has the right to change it. I will not question his authority and you shouldn't either.
From your comments above, Where did Jesus claim to have given the laws that he later changed? According to your explanation above, is Jesus the law giver of the old laws or he is the law itself?

If following the old laws was the same as following Christ according to your comment above, Would changing the old laws not mean that Jesus was changing himself?

What about the rest of the old laws that Jesus did not mention or talk about, are we under obligation to follow them since following the old laws means following Christ according to you?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 1:04pm On Sep 10, 2024
tctrills:
For your second question, I have answered more than once. Please go back to my older posts and pay attention.
Now for the fírst, let me give you a few examples.
1.
Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:
2
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
3
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

These 3 examples should be enough for you
Why would Jesus change the laws above since following the old laws also meant following Christ?

So apart from the ones that Jesus mentioned here......we should follow the rest of the old testament laws right?

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