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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 8:46pm On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Are you asking the same question I just answered I don't see any difference in this and the one I answered.
Or is my answer not clear enough?
Ok let me even give you the most simple explanation that even your child will understand.

The people of the old testament were following God right?
Now Jesus Christ says no man can come up to the Father except through him.
Hence it is impossible to follow the Father without Jesus Christ.
So if you believe that the people of old followed the Father, there you have the answer you are looking for.
The Father and the Son are one. They don't have different followers.
I am sure this gives you the answer you are looking for.
And I appreciate the questions.
I am here to provide answers to your concern on this subject.
Oga show me when and where Jesus told the Isrealites to follow him' and how the isrealites followed him according to your definition of who a Christian is.

Was there any law that was given to the isrealites that commanded them to be born again by being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and also to be baptized with the holy spirit for salvation?

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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 6:11pm On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Again you are wrong.
You don't need evidence in old testament before believing his words
He said no man can come to the Father but by him.
You don't need a new interpretation before believing him.
You don't need Moses confirming his words.
Your duty is to believe that Abraham, Moses, Elijah and everyone that ever came to the Father did it through him.
You are now like the pharisees who needed a sign to believe.
Unlike you, christians don't need a sign to believe him.
I don't need the writings of Moses to believe the Savior Jesus Christ
Ok oo...Kindly show us where and when Jesus told the Isrealites to follow him and How the isrealites followed him to become christians in agreement with your statement on how to become a Christian in the screenshot below.

Kindly show us where Moses and the isrealites were commanded to be born again by baptizing in the name of Jesus and also with the holy spirit to gain salvation.

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 5:30pm On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Again, foolish questions. Since we have established that many people in the old testament where born again, and since we both agree with Christ that no man can come unto the Father but by him then we don't need a single old testament verse to convince us that people of old followed Christ.
You already have all the evidence you needed in the new testament.
Do you get it now?
Just believe the words of Jesus Christ and you will be alright.
For those things not written in the old testament, Jesus Christ himself has explained them. Can you please believe him?
Oga if your interpretation of what Jesus said is correct, you would provide the answers to what I am asking below:

Kindly show us where and when Jesus told the Isrealites to follow him and How the isrealites followed him to become christians in agreement with your statement on how to become a Christian in the screenshot below.

Kindly show us where Moses and the isrealites were commanded to be born again by baptizing in the name of Jesus and also with the holy spirit to gain salvation.

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 4:13pm On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Now you have stopped the childishness. The entire bible is God's call for his people to follow him. Both the old and the new testament.
Again , Jesus Christ said you can't get to the father without him so put the 2 together and your first question is answered.
Kindly show us where and when Jesus told the Isrealites to follow him and How the isrealites followed him to become christians in agreement with your statement on how to become a Christian in the screenshot below.

your second question, since we now know that people in the old testament were born again eg Abraham, Moses etc that makes your question meaningless. Because it shows that people in the olden days knew what to do to qualify for the kingdom of God.
So even without reading a passage in the old testament, the words of Jesus Christ and Paul answer your question.
Kindly show us where Moses and the isrealites were commanded to be born again by baptizing in the name of Jesus and also with the holy spirit to gain salvation.

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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 12:40pm On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
I was thinking it's your child doing this nonsense but if it's you, why didn't you come out honestly and say that you are fed up with the discussion. Why exhibit foolishness in a discussion of adults.
Very disrespectful.
Oga show me when and where Jesus told the Isrealites to follow him' and how the isrealites followed him according to your definition of who a Christian is.

Was there any law that was given to the isrealites that commanded them to be born again by being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and also to be baptized with the holy spirit for salvation?

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 12:17pm On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Is this a mistake or do I also need to keep repeating my answer?
Oga below is your Below screenshot in your own words of Who a Christian is. When did Jeaus tell the isrealites to follow him and How did the isrealites follow Christ?

Was there any law that was given to the isrealites that commanded them to be born again Christians by getting baptized in the name of the Lord and The Holy Spirit?

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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 11:25am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
It seems you mistakenly posted the same comment 2x
Below in the screenshot is your own words of Who a Christian is. When did Jeaus tell the isrealites to follow him and How did the isrealites follow Christ?

Was there any law that was given to the isrealites that commanded them to be born again Christians by getting baptized in the name of the Lord and The Holy Spirit?

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 11:23am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Good so do you think those who drank from Christ fit into the category I mentioned or not.
Also is your question about being born again or about being a Christian?
Below in the screenshot is your own words of Who a Christian is. When did Jeaus tell the isrealites to follow him and How did the isrealites follow Christ?

Was there any law that was given to the isrealites that commanded them to be born again Christians by getting baptized in the name of the Lord and The Holy Spirit?

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 10:48am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
No the verse says that they drank the same the same spiritual drink. So just like every other Christian, the drank from Christ.
So if you think drinking from the rock of Christ doesn't make one a Christian I say you are wrong.

Does this help?
Let me ask you, what does it mean to drink of Christ?
Below in the screenshot is your own words of Who a Christian is. So How did the isrealites follow Christ?

Was there any law that was given to the isrealites that commanded them to be born again Christians by getting baptized in the name of the Lord and The Holy Spirit?

Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 10:30am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Someone just reminded me that I have already answered you.
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ
So if they partook the same spiritual food (Christ) yet somehow, you think they are not Christians, are you not confused.
Please does this verse that you've quoted up there say that the isrealites followed the Rock and thus made them to become christians?

Was there any law that was given to the isrealites that commanded them to be born again Christians by getting baptized in the name of the Lord and The Holy Spirit?
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m):
tctrills:
Where is it stated that Matthew 28.19,20 is the commandment of being a Christian? Please show it to me in your translation my never said that was the commandment of being a Christian.
When Jesus Christ said follow me, all those who believe and follow him are Christians. Their journey begins there. It doesn't end when they are baptized or receive the Holy Ghost. It continues untill perfection
Above is your definition of who a Christian is. Did Jesus tell any of the Isrealite prophets in numbers 11:29 to follow him?


tctrills:
Again, we need to look at individual lives to know who is a Christian or not but definitely some of them where christians.
At least that we can tell.
Numbers 11 gives you a number of baptized christians who received the spirit.
And in verse 29, we learn that God wanted the more people to be prophets and to have his spirit. So it's safe to believe that God made it possible for all those who had faith to receive his spirit just like the people in Acts.

In fact, let me paste the verse for your learning.
Numbers 11.19
And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the Lord'S people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit upon them!

Note, Moses spoke about the Lord's people. So even in those days, we had the Lord's people.

So when you ask me if they all were Christians, I obviously don't know but at least we have some evidence that a number 9f them were Christians.
For the rest, we may not have evidence that they were or were not so it's ok if you and I say that we don't know.
I specifically asked you if the ones that were baptized into Moses were Christians just like the ones who were baptized in John's baptism according to Acts chapter 19? Yes or no?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 2:04am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
I did not conclude that they were Christian my words were we could say they were. I don't see their heart and motive to know if they were and the bible makes us to know that most of them were very disobedient.
But I am saying that they don't even need to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ to qualify as disciples (Christians) Just like the men in Acts 19
Do you have any evidence to show that the Isrealites whom the apostle Paul said were baptized into moses were disciples of Christ and therefore Christians like the men in Acts 19?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 1:52am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Yes we can say that they were Christians but we don't have enough evidence to know if they became born again or not.
So why do you conclude that the isrealites were Christians, Since the Apostle paul said that they were baptized into Moses and you also don't have evidence that they were Baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and born again?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 1:41am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
So you are moving to fast. The discussion here is about who qualifies to be a Christian. From that we can talk about who qualifies to be a born again or even progress to discuss who is born of God
1 John 3:9
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
As I told you, Christianity is a journey that ends in perfect and in the kingdom of God
Oga don't change topic.
So from acts chapter 19, If I call myself a Christian, Can I become born again without water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ?

Can we also say that the isrealites whom Paul said were baptized into Moses were Christians and born again without being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 1:34am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Where is it stated that Matthew 28.19,20 is the commandment of being a Christian? Please show it to me in your translation my never said that was the commandment of being a Christian.
When Jesus Christ said follow me, all those who believe and follow him are Christians. Their journey begins there. It doesn't end when they are baptized or receive the Holy Ghost. It continues untill perfection
So from acts chapter 19, If I call myself a Christian, Can I become born again without water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ?

Can we also say that the isrealites whom Paul said were baptized into Moses were Christians and born again without being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 1:25am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Because Christians follow the commandments of Jesus Christ. Because Christianity is a journey. But then since you say they were not Christians, then why did the brethren call them disciples?
Good....does the commandments of becoming Christians involved getting baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus according to Matthew 28:19, 20?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 1:21am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
Because they needed to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ to receive the Holy Ghost. But my question remains, were they Christians or not before they were re-baptized?
Answer very carefully.
That question is for you....if they were Christians, why did they have to get baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus before receiving Holy Spirit?
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 1:16am On Sep 08, 2024
tctrills:
In Acts 19, the disciples who where baptized unto John, where they Christians or not?
In acts 19:4, 5 why were the disciples required to get baptized again in the name of the Lord Jesus before the Holy Spirit came on them if they were already born again?

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