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Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 12:44am On Aug 05, 2024 |
Jokerman: 1. Hell Fire is the spiritual place of rebellious and sinful spirits/souls. When humans die, their physical bodies drop and buried, but their spirit beings (soul), go on to live and cannot actually die because the soul is eternal (From God).
2. The Lake of Fire will be both for physical and spiritual death. Which is the second death. It is not open yet, until it's set time.
Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
From the bolded Sir, we can see that the two people were literally thrown alive into the Lake of Fire 🔥.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Now the spiritual entity are also thrown into the Lake of Fire.
This tells us that the Lake of Fire is the end of all physical and spiritual nonentities to God.
However, for spirits and people( who will be in their resurrected dirty and sinful bodies), the Lake of Fire is eternal, as God is eternal.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Are you saying that spirit and soul of people are the same? Are you also saying that God would remove people's soul/spirit from Hell fire and make a physical body for them and throw them back into the lake of fire? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 12:34am On Aug 05, 2024 |
StillDtruth: If it was not a fact that the bible did not define eating, walking, seeing, you would have mentioned it, so stab yourself. Lol...ok....where does the Bible state that death and Hell are animate and intellectual entities? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 12:31pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: The Soul Sir, which is the spirit of God.(Which is our consciousness)
Our body is the house of the soul which is exactly our being... So if we let our bodies control our spirit man in the wrong way, it will lead down the path of destruction.
1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; So you are saying that the spirit and the soul are the same? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 12:26pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Lake of Fire is not opened now. It's a literal fire because both the body and soul will be thrown into it t, after the 2nd resurrection of the wicked.
Hell fire and death are spiritual evil condition or place or entity.
So yes, they will be burnt in the lake of fire, which will burn all physical, spiritual, immaterial or material entity.
Remember it's God's design, and there's nothing God cannot do, even things we humans cannot fully comprehend.
Just believe the word of God So you are saying that hell fire is not a literal fire? How do you know that the lake of fire is physical and where will it be located? So how come a physical and literal lake of fire would now burn a spiritual death and hell fire? Explain with bible verses. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 12:24pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
DoWhatThouWilt: Warwick slave, you really want to hear an explanation of hell from an apostate?  Is that what you call yourself? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 12:22pm On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: In Hell (Hades)... Yes they are conscious of their sinful lives on earth What is the conscious part of them? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 10:59am On Aug 04, 2024 |
DoWhatThouWilt: You dont know the location? Dont worry when you die you will find out where it is.  You mean people are conscious after death? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 10:45am On Aug 04, 2024 |
DoWhatThouWilt: I know your angels in warwick are going to hell for supporting and protecting pedophiles.  Where is hell located? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 10:01am On Aug 04, 2024 |
StillDtruth: If you like shout and break your hesd it won't change the fact "so the bible defined eating, walking, seeing abi? Smh You call your claims 'fact' without proofs? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 9:57am On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: There will be no more devils, Sin, defilement or anything that will cause enemity with God.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
At the second death, physical death and Hades, will be destroyed, but as we can see Eternal beings like Humans, Devil, angels etc, will be alive in the fire to be tormented forever and ever (eternally). Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
With Hell and death destroyed, see what the Bible says;
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. So you mean that death and hell fire will be not exist after being thrown into the lake of fire? Is the lake of fire a place of literal fire just like hell fire? If yes, how come it is able to burn death and Hell fire? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 9:09am On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Like I said Bro, Hell is Hades. It is called Hell because of the torments lost souls are condemned to in it.
It is Eternal because it's a precursor to what will happen at the Lake of Fire, and since the soul cannot die , that's why it is Eternal punishment, just like those in heaven presently, eternal life.
See what Jesus himself said:
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. So what is the essence of throwing both Hell and death into the lake of fire? What purpose does that serve to both of them? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 9:07am On Aug 04, 2024 |
StillDtruth: The bible defined eating, walking, seeing abi? Smh Oga backup your claims with the bible that both Hell and death are animate and intellectual entities. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 9:02am On Aug 04, 2024 |
StillDtruth: So you cannot identify living things? No womder I'm expecting bible verses |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 9:00am On Aug 04, 2024 |
StillDtruth: So things who move and bring thimgs are imanimate? Clearly shows how deluded you are. Show me where the bible says both hell and death are literally living things? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 8:58am On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Hell is where the devil and his agents are condemned to.... God created it as a punishment for them and any rebellious person who follows after the Devil- Hence it's an enemy of God.
Death is an Enemy of God.
Lake of Fire is where God will destroy all enemies So why is both 'Hell' and 'death' thrown into the lake of fire? Is Hell no longer the location of eternal torment? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 8:55am On Aug 04, 2024 |
StillDtruth: When you say "death came for him" or when you confess " you saw hell" were they chairs and plates? That proves they are animate and intellectual? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 8:28am On Aug 04, 2024 |
StillDtruth: Who cares?
But clearly, i can say so that all of them there can be giving themselves gbas gbos gbus.
Satan go blow death hell go stab satan death go chop kingxams, liephinix, go shoot lordreed, kushite go burn maxindhouse, demon dey tear janosky head. etc while fire is till burning all of them, all these going on forever You mean 'hell' and 'death' are animate and intellectual objects that Satan would fight with? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hell Fire Is Really A Place Of Torment And Why We Should Try To Avoid It by Michael547(m): 8:26am On Aug 04, 2024 |
Jokerman: Both are enemies of God.
And they will be destroyed and eternally punished in the presence of God and His holy angels
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Who are the enemies of God, Hell and lake of fire? |