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MrPresident1:
Guy, if you are a clean slate as you claim, one big advice to you, do not follow maxinthehouse's doctrine. Just find the nearest mosque, let them baptise you into Islam, and viola, your journey into enlightenment starts.

This is my advice to you. Islam is the truth you seek.

Lol....why would I believe you? The truth you are teaching me now is begging many questions that you've refused to answer. And you claim to know the truth?

MrPresident1:
My gospel to you is this, go and accept Islam. It is in Islam that you will learn all that you are looking for. Don't follow Maxindhouse o, he will just indoctrinate you with eleri Jehofa doctrine and you will be lost.

Seek out the nearest mosque, let them bath you into Islam, and voila, your journey to enlightenment starts

Godspeed!

Why have you refused to answer my question if you have the truth?

Emusan:
Yes! It's God's Spirit.

So where did you see ACTIVE FORCE?



No because I never claimed God's Spirit is ACTIVE FORCE and Man Spirit is LIFE FORCE.

There's no difference between ACTIVE and LIFE.



You're more dubious.



Speed of LIFE Ke...



The Bible says "...and The SPIRIT returned to God who gave it"

I know you lack simple comprehension but yes the Spirit doesn't need to get to heaven and this simply means that God is the one who has the final say on the Spirit.



Spirit is not LIFE FORCE, only a dubious person will claim that.

Now, that means both the evil and righteous people SPIRIT will return to God.

Please identify what the spirit of man is in Genesis 2:7.
Do animals have spirit?
If yes, do their spirit differ from that of men?


You have no proof that the spirit and soul does not 'need' to go to heaven before going to hell since you've agreed that all spirit and soul must return to God who lives in heaven. It's just your personal opinion.
If you don't agree then Which location do the spirit and soul return to God before going to either heaven or hell fire?

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Emusan:
Active force never appear in any Bible verse.

You can proof me wrong.



So God has two different SPIRITS, is that so?



I know because God can operate more than the speed of light.

Now you agree that something survived man after death, right?

But you agree that God's spirit appears in Genesis 1:2.
Is God's spirit in Genesis 1:2 the same as the breath of life in Genesis 2:7 that generate life in both man and animals?


You are a very dubious man😁😁😁....So because God can operate more than the speed of life, he revealed to you that the soul and spirit do not 'need' to return to him in heaven before going to hell fire?😁😁
I agree the spirit which is the life force in man and animals returns to God at death.

Emusan:
Can you imagine "The Spirit of 'LIFE FORCE'"

What type of sentence is that?

Holy spirit is said to be ACTIVE FORCE
Human/Animals is said to be LIFE FORCE

What is the difference?



Lack of comprehension is in play here.

The Spirit must RETURN to God, does it means it must get to heaven before God acts on it?

This is really pathetic.

The only dubious person here is the person who believed that when Man died, nothing survives after yet claiming THE LIFE FORCE RETURNED TO GOD.

This is the evidence that SOMETHING SURVIVES after the death of Man.

Oga holy spirit in Genesis 1:2 is the active force of God used for creation.
The 'breath of life' in Genesis chapter 2:7 Is the spirit that generates 'life' in both humans and animals.


Oga how do you know that the spirit and soul do not 'need' to get to heaven before God acts on it since you agree that they return to God who lives in heaven?

MrPresident1:
You have been asking me questions. Let me ask you one question too

Are you a Jehovah witness?

It doesn't matter who I am.
I am here to learn the truth from you that is why I did not bother to ask of your church or membership.

So are you saying that every other country in the world is for christ and has christ ideologies apart from America?

Emusan:
If SPIRIT is the life force then it means that's God's Holy Spirit which the same Watchtower teaches that is the ACTIVE FORCE. Is that correct?

So why ONLY HUMAN SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD and not that of animals?



It doesn't need to get to heaven before directed to their temporary abode.

The fact is THE SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD which means SOMETHING SURVIVES in man after death.

Oga the spirit of 'life force' is different from the holy spirit. The spirit of life force can also be referred to as breath in a man or animal.


You are very dubious😁😁😁....you have said that every spirit and soul returns to God who lives in heaven.
So how do they not get to heaven before going to hell or don't they return to God again?
How do you know that they don't need to get to heaven?😁

Emusan:
So why did Watchtower teaches that NOTHING SURVIVE in man after death?



You don't have question in the first place.


because the Spirit returned to God and the same spirit is directed to hell.

Watch tower teaches that the spirit is the life force which operates in humans and animals and that it is not the person. So a person does not exist after death.


So you are saying that Every spirit and soul first gets to heaven before going to hell, right?

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Emusan:
Address my point first...

Good which means SOMETHING ACTUALLY exists after man died. Is that correct?

Yes the spirit which is the life force goes back to God.
Now answer my question.

Emusan:
Good which means SOMETHING ACTUALLY exists after man died. Is that correct?




The same that returned to God.

Yes....the spirit which is the life force.


I don't understand.....The spirit and soul goes to Hell fire after going to God in heaven?

Emusan:
You agreed that the Spirit returned to God, right?

Yes.
And you said the soul is inside the spirit.
So which soul and spirit goes to hell fire?

Emusan:
"For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it." - Eccl 12:7

Which part is difficult to under here?

Lol....so which soul and spirit goes to hell fire?

Emusan:
Soul resides in spirit.

At least you know the SPIRIT RETURNED TO GOD according to the scripture.

So when everyone dies, their spirit and soul returns to God?
So the spirit and the soul are not separate?

MrPresident1:
There is a state of war in the world, and the battle is between the forces of Satan including the eleri Jehofa cult, and the forces of good

The gospel that Paul preached to the Gentiles is Islam, and as the power of Satan is waning, the Gospel will continue to grow and take over. The Gospel has taken over in Nigeria

The Gospel will take over in American country too where the eleri Jehofa cult comes from

So are you saying that every other country in the world is for christ and has christ ideologies apart from America?

Emusan:
"For then the dust will return to the earth, and the spirit will return to God who gave it." - Eccl 12:7

Soul nko?

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MaxInDHouse:
I'm his problem so let me leave his thread so he can concentrate on his Jesus Islam gospel!

😁😁He has confirmed that the Politicians in Nigeria are for christ.
So I want to know the other countries that are for Satan.

MrPresident1:
You are not a Bible student, you would have understood that ideology rules the earth. Like western civilisation, like Islam etc

The ideology that now rules in Nigeria is Islam. Muslims have occupied the Nigerian nation for Christ

So which country or countries are occupied by the people or ideologies of the harlot?

MrPresident1:
Revelation 17:18
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Assuming that you are a Bible student now, you would understand this verse. All the kings of the earth are working under the whöre

So if all all the kings of the earth are under the harlot according to Revelation 17:18, who are those in power that you say are on Jesus side that are occupying?
And what location on earth today are those on Jesus side occupying?

MrPresident1:
On the side of Satan is all the workers of iniquity. On the side of Christ is all the good people of the world

Daniel 8:11
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

The above answers your question. Power was given to Satan to magnify himself even against the Prince of the host. That power waned over time, and is on the last leg of life support now, being propped up by doctrines like eleri Jehofa doctrine and Pentecostal/Evangelical Christianity doctrine

Ok.....Do you know any politician today in political power that is on the side of Satan and a Politician today in power that is on the side of christ?

Odotech:
Man is a tripartite being (consist of soul, spirit and body) for a reason. The three parts of you must be catered for if not, you suffer.

Your spirit reaches to God. If not nourished, you will be a chess game in the hand of the devil

Your body if not nourished can lead to premature death which may stop you untimely from fulfilling your God-given purpose

Your soul if not nourished affect your mental health. You need good music, good books, holidays, vacation to rest and make your soul happy

You will tone down on excess fasting. God prefers 30 minutes or 1 hour of daily consistency to 1 month of crude fasting.

Work on your consistency. Try to maintain a daily consistency in prayer, bible and weekly evangelism. This should suffice. Discipline yourself, wake and pray 4am to 6am everyday to pray. No need for fasting. Take your Sundays for fasting, Saturday for personal chores, use your Monday to Friday for hustling 8am to 10pm. If you are consistent, your revelation gifts will not stop. You don't need fasting to trigger gifts- they are actually called gifts because you don't work for them. You only need consistency to keep them flowing. The less consistent you are with prayer, the more your visions come with less clarity. No need for marathon, 2 hours a day of consistency will get you there. You can do marathon when you are on your annual leave from work

So where does the soul and spirit go when a person dies?