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PepeXKermit:
The end game is that there will be one will in the universe again.

What is the will oga?

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safarifarms:
They had instructions. I don't know what law you would be referring to. Is it the laws of Moses that came much later?

You said the tree of the knowledge of good and bad represented the law.
Are you saying that Adam and Eve were suppose to be ignorant of a law?
What exactly was that law?

StillDtruth:
When you satan and forrmer Adam woman now (Evil, Eve) ask them!

Oga wetin you dey talk?

safarifarms:
The law.
Romans 7:7
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid! Nay, I would not have known sin, but through the law; for I would not have known lust, except that the law had said, “Thou shalt not covet.”

Their choice of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (the law) brought about death while they ignored the tree life (Jesus) which should have given them Eternal life.

2 Corinthians 3:6 (King James Version)
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

I hope you understand that the letter here refers to the law. So 2nd Corinthians 3:6 here says the law kills. Same thing that the tree of knowledge of good and evil brought (death).

So are you insinuating that Adam and Eve knew no law before eating from the forbidden tree?

PepeXKermit:
the problem with people like you is that you try to use logical mind to understand God and your wisdom is like foolishness in his sight. infact, the wisdom of everybody in the world combined is not even up to a speck of dust in his sight. Now, moving to the crux of the issue, yes, I said we are pawns and for God, he already has an end game and that endgame, no matter what anybody does, it will lead to the same outcome, try out all the probabilities you know in the universe, all roads will lead to the end which he has mapped out for his creation. now, as it regards the will of God, your own end lies in your hand through his help, he has already told you, he has given you the option to choose two options and he told you, choose me so that you will live forever, so if you decide to choose anyhting else, you have yourself to blame.

So what is the end that God has mapped out for all his creations?

Ken4Christ:
All that the Father is has been invested in the name of Jesus.

So Jesus declared to people that his father's name was 'Jesus' according to John 17:26?

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DeAnonymousGuy:
Omoh ehn. Life is deeper beyond the whys and the ifs.

But regardless of if our actions are scripted or not, we still have a conscience that activates when we want to make make decisions or take actions.
This may be unrelated but if God is all knowing why did He regret creating man. Is God surprised about the actions of man?

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DeAnonymousGuy:
If i write a book about a character. And then in the book, I make the character to be a villain, would you say the character is bad because he wants to or because I as the writer makes him bad?

It is clear that you made him bad....so why should I blame the character for his badness? It means it would be illogical to blame people for the bad that they do.

PepeXKermit:
nope all the veil going on in the world is not his doing. it is as a consequence of series of activities that have been carried out in eternity past that is manifesting itself and will continue to manifest itself until there is the restoration of one will in the Universe. In eternity past, when there was one will (the will of God), there was peace and harmony, until Lucifer rebelled against God and made man rebel against God too.

Oga you Just said that humans are pawn for God's entertainment just as animals can be entertainment for humans.
Are you not contradicting yourself if you say what humans do today is not the will of God?
What was the initial will of God?
What happened in the eternity past that is manifesting today?
What is sin?

ikevictor:
Gen 1-31
Tim 4:4-5
And many others states that everything God created was good.

In the garden created by God was the tree of good and evil. Which if eaten, one must surely die.

1. What was the good side of this tree? Since all He created was good.

2. Why was the evil side of this tree good in God's eyes? Does God see evil as good?

3. And Satan sinned and was sent down to earth., meaning that before this time he(Satan) was in heaven and deemed righteous. When Satan was deemed righteous and resides in heaven, the tree of good and evil was already created by God...does it mean that God created evil? If not, who, when and why?

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PepeXKermit:
yes. we are all pawns for his entertainment. I find nothing wrong with this but, some people do not have the understanding of this. imagine when we used to catch lizards as kids or birds, we did what we wanted with them even as kids, now imagine that with a supreme being

Ok....So how could we say that the Supreme being is lovely when all the evil going on in the world is his hand work? Why do we Even Blane humans for the evil they commit when we should actually blame the Supreme being?

DeAnonymousGuy:
I don't know if that will be counted as sin. God is all knowing. He knows the past from the present and vice versa. So nothing that happens under the sun surprises him.

It therefore means that there is nothing like sin.....we are all acting a script written by the creator.

StillDtruth:
That is what proves that she had sex first with Satan (which is why women Bleep better and the man is always a novice) before she went "and gave" Adam.

Exactly, how girls have first bleeped a guy before she bleeps you.

Lol.... what reproductive organ did Satan have?

SweetDipBenny:
And God knew they were gonna eat the fruit, and if they hadn't eaten the fruit we wouldn't have existed. God is the beginning and the everlasting, he already know whats gonna happen in the end, he knows how many people will go to heaven and to hell. ONLY GOD KNOWS..

Then it therefore means that Adam did not commit any sin....he simply did what God wanted him to do.

DeAnonymousGuy:
God already knew they would eat the Apple. They were merely acting the script

Meaning that Adam committed no sin.

safarifarms:
While I don't subscribe to the rubbish idea that the forbidden fruit was sex, I do believe that the garden of Eden story was actually figurative.
1. Serpents don't talk
2. The serpent itself was a figurative representative of the devil
3. What is the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? Does that make literal sense? No. It was figurative.
4. What about the tree of life? That represents Jesus who provides Eternal life.

So the story was actually figurative of Adam's choice which was kind of a rejection of Christ. Because there was Jesus (tree of life which he wasn't excluded from eating) but he choose something else.

So who does the tree of the knowledge of good and evil represent?

StillDtruth:
If your daughter or son has sex before marriage would you be happy? This is the origin why fornication is a sin for sex is only permitted when you are duly and properly married.

So, obviously Adam male and female where still in the dating stage.

And this is where you see why satan hates marriages and attacks couples who are truly in love. And that attack starts from the dating stage or even before the couples meet themselves.

So how come Eve ate the fruit first and later gave to Adam?

onlinestaff247:
1. God knew that man needed a companion, why did he not create another man if sex was not going to be involved later?

2. Why did God place a forbidden fruit tree having the qualities of good and evil at the center of the garden? Why not leave all fruits to have good qualities?

3. Did God know that the evil qualities of the tree would be unlocked one day?

4. If God is all knowing, why could He not stop Eve from plucking the fruit from the tree after receiving the command from Lucifer?

5. Why would God allow the devil to put asunder what he created beautifully on Earth?

6. Why would God delete Lucifer from heaven and push him to Earth, thereafter God also went to the same Earth to create wonderful things knowing Lucifer resides on Earth too?

7. Back to the fruity discussion, the forbidden fruit categorically is a tree having fruits about good and evil knowledge, right? Now, Lucifer in the form of a serpent decided to teach God a memorable lesson by deceiving Eve to eat of that tree so that the works of God could be futile.

When Eve ate of the tree, her eyes opened and saw that she was naked, right?

Don't forget that Lucifer has already beheld her unclothedness and knows what remains is for her to now have orientation of sex (evil knowledge).

************************************* I may be wrong but honestly removing the religious aspect and facing the pragmatic approach, Lucifer had sex with Eve there.

Eve realising this went to cajole Adam to eat of this fruit with hesitation from Adam but he finally succumbed.

Don't forget Eve can only have sex with Adam when his eyes are opened too.

She was able to achieve this and Cain and Abel were born both having the qualities of evil and good respectively.
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When God saw this abomination, He became mad and sent them out of the Garden of Eden into the other parts of the world where He watched them from afar.

Furthermore, Lucifer was able to realize his score against God at the background.

Let's always look at these things with our third eyes critically...It's not everything we see in the Bible that we would digest line, hook and sinker.

The Bible was written by men and inspired by God but there are parts that have been crafted to appeal to people.

There are other secrets that have been removed or not added to the Bible so that people's sense of judgement and followership won't be misguided.

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eazye4u133:
We like coming up with ideas to buttress our human-inspired interpretation of God's word, despite the fact that everything is plainly recorded in the Bible.

According to Genesis, after eating the forbidden fruit and learning about good and evil, Adam and Eve realised they were naked. This implies a comprehension of their physical bodies and the possibility of procreation. They eventually had offspring, beginning with Cain and Abel, as recounted in the Bible.

Read further . Genesis 3:7

"Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves."

According to your explanation, Adam did not commit a sin because he simply did what God asked him to do which is to procreate.

InvertedHammer:
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Go and read the original version of the Bible written in Greek. Stop relying on the watered down, lost in translation English version of events. This is assuming that the story told by a third party many decades or centuries after the supposed creation is true. There are too many unanswered questions about creationism. Did God create water? Did God create darkness? Where did Cain's wife come from? If Cain married Avan from the land of Nod, who created the parents and the people of Nod?

I believe that if the story in Genesis were an African folklore, most of you would call it a total bullshit. But coming from colonialists, impressionable people hold it as the absolute truth.

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