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OneCandleAway:
Whites also have their own magick. Elizabeth 1 had an astrologer, they are also into candle magic and other types of magic. You never know they might have cast a spell for success before embarking on the war.

The thing is when white people gain such magical knowledge, they will seek for a way to use it for the benefit of their country or mankind, while black people heard the information for their own selfish use till they die with the knowledge..

The whites came with the first type of machine gun in 1897. The thing is that they have access to supernatural knowledge that teaches them science and technology to make all the technology we have today. But black magic in Africa just gives its believers false sense that charm can protect, stop bullets and can give money which is FAKE.

BabalawoPikin:
ode. See where your mind go. Lol

You are the BIG ode with your SHITHOLE charms.

BabalawoPikin:
the religion that same Europeans brought to you. Ain't your pastors abusing it.. What happened to them We have 99% fake men of God. Why haven't that same European gods fought them immediately Coward. Bring yours let's test it on each other

The GOD of battle in this world is technology. Can you test your FAKE juju against these?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpMj2PSAQZw

BabalawoPikin:
the religion that same Europeans brought to you. Ain't your pastors abusing it.. What happened to them We have 99% fake men of God. Why haven't that same European gods fought them immediately Coward. Bring yours let's test it on each other

If you are not a COWARD then put on your juju SHITHOLE charms and go to the villages where farmers are scared to go to their farms, there you can test your FAKE charms by leading them to their farms and use it to protect them on their farms.

Photo of how the Europeans made a public show of black magic in1897. If black magic could not protect in 1897 so of what use is it today. People should wake up that black magic cannot protect or make money. It is only good to keep people backward.

If the tribes then have invested their time in science and technology then we would have been a super power too today.

BabalawoPikin:
Why are you afraid. Stop fighting that guy. I posted this topic. Since you say it doesn't exist. Show yourself. Let's test it on you

I'm not fighting any guy. He is the one that is fighting because he is a SCAMMER and he does not like to be exposed. You and the guy are SCAMMERS. Your charm for money and protection are FAKE. I gave you a test to give correct football scores but you FAILED to do so. You and the guy can test your SHITHOLE charms on yourselves. Your SHITHOLE charms that cannot protect those in the villages from going to their farms.

See how the Europeans made a public show of your FAKE charms.

MaxInDHouse:
MaxInDHouse

MaxInDHouse a SCAMMER with SHITHOLE brain

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ go find job!

MaxInDHouse: full time job religious SCAMMER on this section.

MaxInDHouse:
If you had studied well in school and work towards profitable things the same way you're doing with all the matches to be played today, [s]you won't be here asking people to predict the scores for you to get rich quickly.
Ọmọ go find job! [/s]

You are a SCAMMER. Always supporting that juju can make money and protect but when put to the test you get upset because your SCAM has been busted.

MaxInDHouse: full time job is a religious SCAMMER on this section.

MaxInDHouse:
[s]Ọmọ laziness is killing you, go and find work! [/s]

Why are you always defending juju when I show proof that it does not work for money and protection. You are the one laziness is killing, always trying to defend juju that is FAKE because you have no job and you want to SCAM people with your lazy mind. Your full time work is to be posting rubbish on this forum and you feel you have a full time work by doing so.

BabalawoPikin:
that's the same thing we are saying. If you want to know that the pen is working. Bring a book

If charms for protection works, villagers will not be scared to go to their farms now when villages have the strongest charms. Shows charm for protection is FAKE.

Here is the book for you to give the correct scores for these matches below. If you believe juju can make money then this is a clean way to use it to make money.

Nigeria vs Ghana =

LEAGUE ONE
Accrington Stanley vs Gillingham =
AFC Wimbledon vs Cambridge United
Doncaster Rovers vs Charlton Athletic
Ipswich Town vs Plymouth Argyle
Sheffield Wednesday vs Cheltenham Town
Shrewsbury Town vs Lincoln City

LEAGUE TWO
Bradford City vs Newport County =
Carlisle United vs Bristol Rovers =
Colchester United vs Tranmere Rovers =
Crawley Town vs Rochdale =
Exeter City vs Stevenage =
Leyton Orient vs Barrow =
Northampton Town vs Hartlepool United =
Oldham Athletic vs Mansfield Town =
Port Vale vs Sutton United =
Salford City vs Walsall =
Scunthorpe United vs Harrogate Town =

BabalawoPikin:
So many times I see post of people saying money ritual isn't real.. Some say there's no Juju lol..
Most times you see criminals been killed even with charms all over there body.. You think it hasn't been working for them before abi

Abeg if e sure for you say juju no dey work.. U go fit enter shrine scatter everything,if I show you one

If e sure for you.. Gboriwole!!! Come with your pastor and imam on my box

Just one aboki selling suya will slap you and you will be deaf and dumb..

Ogun state no far.

I hate rubbish..

NNTR:
Doesnt work like that my dear friend in bringing other books in.

Remember that you wondered about 'Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15. This prophesy of Enoch is nowhere in the Old Testament, so where did Jude get it from.', and so I shared the low-down of the source all up there, which is that, the BoE is fictitious. It is an early century blockbuster novel. I even went to great length pointing out one of its glaring and deliberate misleading entries, (i.e. the insertion that Enoch was seventh from Adam) That's just one out the many reasons, why it lost credibility and so never gained qualification to be put in the biblical canon

I dont know who mentioned to you and what was shared with you that Jude got through the Holy Spirit, but I have this to say in reply, the BoE, isnt the only one flying around at that time, there even are other hoaxes like, Book of A&E (i.e. the Book of Adam and Eve,) Book of Noah, Jubilees, BoJ (i.e. the Book of Jasher) to name just those few

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Then you are missing the purpose of my original post. It is where Jude got the professphy of Enoch from. If you disagree it came from the Book of Enoch then say which credible source you feel it came from.

NNTR:
May I kindly remind you that the books of Jude, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and others are not on trial here, but its the BoE.

When you remarked, asking and saying 'Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15. This prophesy of Enoch is nowhere in the Old Testament, so where did Jude get it from.', I shared the low-down of the source, which is the fictitious BoE

The pseudepigrapha glorified BoE novel lacking obvious credibility, authenticity, soundness and truth is what's pointed out to you with showing an evidence pulled out from one of its major incredibilities.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Since you brought in the credibility of the Book of Enoch hence the mention of the credibility of the other books in the NT as the question is on "Where Did Jude Find Enoch's Prophesy Jude 1:14 -15" It was mentioned above that Jude got it through the Holy Spirit. What's the crediblity of this when the Book of Enoch was an "Ethiopic translation of a previous Greek translation made in Palestine from the original Hebrew or Aramaic." Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/First-Book-of-Enoch

NNTR:
Yes, of course, there's a BoE, book of Enoch, but there's no evidence that, supports its written by the Enoch

Same goes with Jude, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and others except Paul's letters as there's no evidence that supports they were written by Jesus and His disciples. These gospels are the work of unknown Christians and were composed c. 68-110 AD.

Scholarship straight

LordReed:
When the NT was written the Greeks were not in ascendancy in the Levant so it was not translated into Greek but written (mostly) directly in Greek.

I was referring to the OT scriptures and not the NT gospels. The Greek Empire was ruling Israel during some of the BC period which influenced the translations of the OT scriptures to Greek. This was before the Roman Empire that ruled Israel from the BC into the CE period.

The Encyclopædia Britannica is a reliable source of reference on the Septuagint or Old Testament. Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Septuagint
Septuagint, abbreviation LXX, the earliest extant Greek translation of the Old Testament from the original Hebrew. The Septuagint was presumably made for the Jewish community in Egypt when Greek was the common language throughout the region. Analysis of the language has established that the Torah, or Pentateuch (the first five books of the Old Testament), was translated near the middle of the 3rd century bce and that the rest of the Old Testament was translated in the 2nd century bce.

The name Septuagint (from the Latin septuaginta, “70”) was derived later from the legend that there were 72 translators, 6 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel, who worked independently to translate the whole and ultimately produced identical versions. Another legend holds that the translators were sent to Alexandria by Eleazar, the chief priest at Jerusalem, at the request of Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285–246 bce), though its source, the Letter of Aristeas, is unreliable. Despite the tradition that it was perfectly translated, there are large differences in style and usage between the Septuagint’s translation of the Torah and its translations of the later books in the Old Testament. In the 3rd century ce Origen attempted to clear up copyists’ errors that had crept into the text of the Septuagint, which by then varied widely from copy to copy, and a number of other scholars consulted the Hebrew texts in order to make the Septuagint more accurate.

KnownUnknown:
Which Greek empire are you talking about? It’s a pretty simple question. Consult your official Wikipedia from your posts and pick one. [s]My low iq is still stratospheric compared to yours.[/s] So, it can go as low as you want, even subzero, and it will still be higher than yours

What matters is that there was a Greek empire which Israel was part of and that was what influenced the translation of the scriptures to Greek, as the Greeks used the power of their intellect through education to control their empire.
So why is this information a problem for you?

KnownUnknown:
There was no Greek Empire per say is what I said. No greek empires per say but different empires headed by Greeks. All you have to do is tell us which one was involved in your assertions instead of making broad claims. I noticed that you avoided showing the “reliable reference” of which empire was responsible or which one claimed Israel when the translations occurred. Stop looking up at my low IQ.

There was a Greek empire which Israel was part of hence the translation of the scriptures to Greek. If you don't agree then show your source of reference as to why you disagree rather than showing your low IQ.

KnownUnknown:
[s]Look at you learning!!! I’m so proud of you.[/s] Now compare the above with the following. However, you still aren’t specific about the Greek empire you’re talking about.

I have provided a map to show the Greek empire and a reliable reference on the translation of the scriptures to Greek.

Now you are jumping from pillar to post due to your low IQ as you cannot show a reliable reference as to your claim that there was no Greek empire.

KnownUnknown:
No matter how low my IQ is, [s]it is still stratospheric compared to yours.[/s]
Anyway, I think you should be the one showing us the Greek empire that occupied Israel and produced the Septuagint. I repeat there was no Greek Empire per say, so which specific empire are you referring to?

You can’t just conflate the acts of the Ptolemies and the Seleucids under “Greek Empire”.

Since you have a low IQ, I will educate you.

The map of the Greek Empire shows that Israel was part of the Greek Empire in 323 BC meaning Greek was the common language in the regions they occupied.

The Encyclopædia Britannica is a reliable source of reference on the Septuagint.
Septuagint, abbreviation LXX, the earliest extant Greek translation of the Old Testament from the original Hebrew. The Septuagint was presumably made for the Jewish community in Egypt when Greek was the common language throughout the region. Analysis of the language has established that the Torah, or Pentateuch (the first five books of the Old Testament), was translated near the middle of the 3rd century bce and that the rest of the Old Testament was translated in the 2nd century bce.

The name Septuagint (from the Latin septuaginta, “70”) was derived later from the legend that there were 72 translators, 6 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel, who worked independently to translate the whole and ultimately produced identical versions. Another legend holds that the translators were sent to Alexandria by Eleazar, the chief priest at Jerusalem, at the request of Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285–246 bce), though its source, the Letter of Aristeas, is unreliable. Despite the tradition that it was perfectly translated, there are large differences in style and usage between the Septuagint’s translation of the Torah and its translations of the later books in the Old Testament. In the 3rd century ce Origen attempted to clear up copyists’ errors that had crept into the text of the Septuagint, which by then varied widely from copy to copy, and a number of other scholars consulted the Hebrew texts in order to make the Septuagint more accurate.
Source: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Septuagint

KnownUnknown:
“Official source”. Then he posts Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a repository of information not the source.
Regardless, the information on your “official source” supports what I said.

In the Hellenistic period, Greek Empire can refer to any individual or all successor states of the Diadochi:

Ptolemaic dynasty
Seleucid dynasty
Antigonid dynasty
Greco-Bactrian Kingdom
Indo-Greek Kingdom

[s]If you knew how to reason or perform research[/s], you would point out which “greek empire” did the things you claim.

Right after you show me the official source that the Jews did not create the god you believe in.

If you can reason you'll notice that I did not call Wikipedia my official source but I did use it as a quick source of reference.

Show your official source that there was no Greek Empire? Instead you result to insults to show how low your IQ is.

If you know what research is then you'll know you need to back up your claim with reference to the source of your information.

KnownUnknown:
You need to read more and speak less. Also, stop relying solely on YouTube.

E.g. there was no “Greek Empire” per say. Alexander’s generals carved up the conquered territories resulting in empires such as the Ptolemaic and the Seleucid.
It was the Ptolemaics of Alexandria who had the Jewish works and other cultural works translated into Greek. Also, the story of the incarnation of the sun goes further back in time to Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt and probably India. So, both the stories of the Old Testament and the works that became the gospels were in existence before the Romans got there. If the Romans did anything, it would be editing the gospels to support the divinity of Vespasian/Titus not wholly inventing Jesus and the gospels.

Where is your official source that there was no Greek Empire?

Here is my source that a Greek empire did exist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Empire

Also show your official source that the Romans did not create the character of Jesus Christ we know today?

LordReed:
I strongly disagree with this statement. The idea of a Republic or of democracy did not originate with the Romans but with the Greeks. Even at the time of the occupation of the Levant by the Romans, Greek was the more widely spoken and written language than Latin which is why the NT was written mostly in Greek.

And it does go further back to the Medo Persia empire which occupied Macedonian. The Medo Persia empire were the ones that conquered Babylon, they introduced a universal currency and taxation.
The king of Macedonian united Greece in 359 BC later his son Alexander The Great conquered the Medo Persian empire occupying Israel. Israel was now occupied by the Greek empire hence the Greek translation of the scriptures as the Greeks used the power of their intellect through education to control all their empire.
Then in 168 BC the Romans conquered the Greek empire and incorporated the Greek empire into the Roman empire and the Roman system is what most of the world's system today including the EU is still based on.

Your views and the books you are referring to are not based on official documentary evidence from the Romans going back 2000 years and before. Most of the system in the world today inclucing the EU is still based on the Roman Empire so their official historical records are very valid.

The Romans were the ones that carried out all the crucifixions at that time and they have official records of what they did.

Do you know that during the occupation of Israel by the Romans that many fanatical Jews were crucified because they will not succumb to Roman rule of their Holy land.

I know it's hard for you to accept it but the truth is that the Jesus Christ we know today was a politician tool created by the Romans to control the minds of the people.

Just imagine being able to take the religious books today that breed religious fanatics and create a peaceful New Testament of these Religious books to control the minds of the fanatics to become gentle. This was exactly what the Roman did at that time by creating a gentle character called Jesus Christ.

If you have watched the video I posted before then send screenshots with the timestamp of the areas you disagree with.

The Bible we have today came from Rome and not from Israel where the original Old Testament scrolls were taken from to Rome, so knowing if THE WORD OF GOD is true and false from it depends on how we view it.

Here is another video of what is under the Vatican in Rome and this is the place where all the scriptures we have today and the original stories of Jesus Christ were written.

You have a lot to learn if all you rely on are just books not based on official historical records and you don't watch youtube videos based on official documentary evidence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGmW71sWetI

peggywebbs:
How do you know we believed the same thing before. I don't hold the same view as many people, I believe in Jesus, of course but I also know that scripture has been manipulated over time. I also, know that no matter how much they try to change the story, one thing never changes " the word of God".

You should know one thing, that Jesus Christ is first the "word of God". Any other description after that is not really relevant. Whether he comes from China, Japan, or even Nigeria. Does the "word of God" represent the tenets of God? If it is inconsistent with the Divine God, it is false. We understand that the Romans exploited the message of the apostles because they saw the attention it was drawing.

People crave power, people want fame. However, even in every lie, there is an element of truth, even if minute. The existence of Jesus,or Yeshua according to some jews, is indisputable. However, I must tell you that as man can be his story has been told in many ways. However, his character is easily identifiable and that is how you can identify the true "word of God".

Did you know that there were many doctrines that sprang up after the crucifixion? If you study the book of John, you will understand why he said test the spirits. During the time of the apostles, some people believed that Jesus was crucified. Some did not believe that he was ( they believed God saved him), and it was made to look like he died on the cross. There were even some who argued that the rapture had happened which caused a disagreement in the early church ( 2 Corinthians).

Now, you should know that many stories were flying around during that period about Jesus. He was very popular. There are even some books that mention Jesus was married and had kids. Some mention he had an affair with Mary Magdalene, some even mention a relationship with Judas. Some books say that Judas recognized Jesus as the aeon of barbelo..some kind of deity from outer space.

So trust me when I tell you, there are many proofs of Jesus you will read and this biblical scholars of the Roman created Jesus is not the only one. Let's not even go to the black Americans who are of the opinion that Jesus was a black man and there is no white Jesus, it becomes a battle of the races. By the way, there was a time when blacks ruled Rome, you may want to go ahead to study that history before they were chased off. In conclusion, you still have a lot to go learn. When you're done reading all the versions of Jesus, I will be happy to know when you find or if you find the real one.

KnownUnknown:
What other materials or sources did you analyze to get to the conclusion that the documentary is totally accurate. You called them world renowned Bible scholars, but other world renowned Bible scholars disagree with them. So, who cares about world renown? It should be about the accuracy of their claims.

Then post the research findings here of the other world renowned Bible scholars who disagree with them.

You will need to ask yourself the meaning of research by the world's renowned Bible scholars and what purpose is a research for.
The youtube video documentary is the findings from a critical research by the world's renowned Bible scholars going outside the restrictions of mainstream religious institutions using official Roman historical documents and is not based on belief.

After watching such a video based on their findings it is very evident that Jesus was a character created by the Romans can anyone here come up with a better research with official historical records dating back around 2000 years ago other than the New Testament all their knowledge of Jesus is base on and some other religious groups they have read about.

KnownUnknown:
You post endlessly about your belief that Jesus was created by Romans when he probably wasn’t just because you uncritically imbibed everything in the Caesar’s messiahs video. Maybe you should learn to think critically and read widely before making your assertions. A little critical thinking would lead to the realization that if the Jesus story was cooked up( regardless if it was by the Romans or Therapeutae of Alexandria), there is no reason to accept that the god who gave commandments wasn’t cooked up either.

No commandments was written by GOD HIMSELF because God only speaks through the mouths of men. The day god speaks for himself is the day the stars fall onto the earth. i.e. Never

Minos is said to have received his laws from Zeus but you don’t believe that.

Lycurgus is said to have received his laws from Apollo but you don’t believe that.

Orunmila is said to have received his laws from Eledumare but you don’t believe that.

Moses is said to have received his laws from Yahweh. That you believe.

LordReed:
LoL which eyewitnesses?

No record of enslavement of the Hebrews in Egypt, despite it being recorded that the Hebrew nation was sometimes a vassal state to the Egyptian Pharaoh. No trace of the so called 40 year trek in a region smaller than Lagos state. No sign of the gigantic Jericho walls that were toppled miraculously. Isn't it amazing that none of the many things that could have established the truthfulness of the Bible are nowhere to be found. No garden of Eden, no Noah's ark, no sign of people that lived up to 900years, no sign of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, no ark of the covenant or the original tablets on which the so called 10 commandments were written on, no sign that the king Solomon was actually as prosperous as described and so on. You have to wonder at the dearth of all these.

Very good point: "original tablets on which the so called 10 commandments were written on."
And was written by GOD HIMSELF.
Surely these original tablets should be available today.

MaxInDHouse:
Na so e pain you reach?
I chose not to quote you so we won't have to start exchanging words o, but if you don't believe in the supernatural how is that my own business?

You and your other handles here are the ones that are pained and in insults because GOD is using my post to set the captives free so that you won't find gullible people on this forum to fall for you SCAM.

1MILLIONLiGHTS:
BE CAREFUL WITH SATANIC DISCUSSIONS AND USELESS HISTORIES.

1 TIMOTHY 1: 3-7

1:3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia—remain in Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
1:4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith.
1:5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith,
1:6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk,
1:7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.

Genealogy of Jesus Luke vs Matthew
Matthew starts with Abraham, while Luke begins with Adam.
Two different genealogies of Jesus yet He does not have a human father.
So Timothy is going against Matthew and Mark believers believe were inspired by God.

Dtruthspeaker:
Dtruthspeaker

Your brain is a SHITHOLE and belong in the GABAGE

TruthinAction:
I know God's word is true. It has been tested and tried. Prophecies contained in it are being fulfilled before our very eyes.

Besides, my life got truly transformed when I accepted Jesus. I get healed miraculously when I pray in his name. He filled me with his Holy Spirit with the physical manifestation of speaking in tongues.

I have survived food poisoning several times which no ordinary man will survive.

I have escaped assassins several times which no ordinary man will escape. The assassins themselves are confused why they haven't been able to succeed in their mission.

I live a supernatural life all because of my faith in the word of God. So, I have every reason to believe what is written therein.

GOD is merciful so for those ignorant that Jesus is a made up character by the Romans, HE is still merciful to them.

The speaking in tongues is just Satan's BIG deceit!

Dtruthspeaker:
Dtruthspeaker

Your brain is a SHITHOLE and belongs in the GABAGE