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Is this how your god is providing Peace?

If you have peace you want be jumping from pillar to post trying to promote that your FAKE peace when you believe blackmagic can stop bullets, give correct football scores and that a character created by the Romans over 2000 years ago is coming back.

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continually covered up and rewritten
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their ever-changing doctrines each time
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presenting them as new light the one
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thing the watchtower society cannot
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tolerate in the organization is critical
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thinking
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that's why they forbid their followers
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to read any material which might expose
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their deceptions really shocked me to my
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core was this and every other Jehovah's
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Witness listening to this is that we
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were so convinced that the leadership
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the governing body would never tell one
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lie they would always speak the truth no
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matter what the truth was that is a
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fabrication it is a lie they have lied
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to us they have deceived us and we have
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the documented evidence and because
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we've spoken about it we were silenced
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or threatened to be silenced and that's
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what will happen to any Jehovah's
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Witness listening to this program and he
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knows it in his heart he knows it in his
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heart I saw on the body that most of our
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time was spent discussing the formation
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of new rulings all designed to keep the
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witnesses in and to keep bad people out
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to act as that kind of offense and again
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and again the decisions had absolutely
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no basis in the Bible the witness who
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breaks these executive Commandments is
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subject to dispell Oh shipping the
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watchtowers word for excommunication job
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as witnesses practice removing those who
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refuse to conform the right principles
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from among themselves the Bible refers
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to this and supports this practice as
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preventing leaven or false thinking or
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teaching from entering into the
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congregation thereby maintaining its
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purity or its cleanliness I went to a
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Christian Church with my husband and
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they dispell assured me for that they
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believed that when you when you become
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when you leave the organization you go
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to the devil anyway but if you ever join
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a church this is the ultimate sin they
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believe that it's committing spiritual
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fornication with the devil in my job
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assignment at the Brooklyn Bethel
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headquarters I would often
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disfellowshipping x' which came in from
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all the various congregations in the
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united states and they literally
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amounted to hundreds that would come in
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every week it just shows the the
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magnitude of the number of people that
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are disfellowship by the organization
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and of course careful records are kept
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on all this including all the the
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intimate details of what the individual
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did what kind of offense it was mainly
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there are sex offenses but there are
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other offenses too like smoking perhaps
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celebrating the holidays things like
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that that people also got this
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fellowship for if one actually becomes a
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descender to the point of becoming
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apostate then we follow the Bible
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Council and we never invite him into our
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house or was they agreeing to him if a
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person resigns they are treated exactly
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the same as a person who is
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disfellowshipped when my husband and I
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resigned by sending in a letter of
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disassociation we were not merely
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dropped from membership we were actually
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shunned as being evil even today if a
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Jehovah's Witness is caught associating
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with us they are subject to being
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discover ship themselves there is no
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honorable way out of this religion
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because of the way that they had treated
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my family i disassociated myself from
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the watchtower society never dreaming
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that my children would refuse to have
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anything to do with me in fact I have a
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little two-year-old grandson that I've
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never even seen my two children and my
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five grandchildren are forbidden to see
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me their grandmother because of the
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watchtower what kind of organization
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going under the heading of Christian
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would disallow the children and
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grandchildren to see their mother and
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grandmother every person will recognize
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the watchtowers practice of shunning as
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a cold unloving evil thing the lives of
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the disfellowshipped are filled with the
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chill and loneliness the never-ending
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sadness of separation from family
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members
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to find something to believe in to trust
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him it's very hard since I believe that
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they were the only channel to God I
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couldn't bring myself to come to any
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other Church to search for God in any
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other way
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normally Jehovah's Witnesses are taught
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that when they leave the organization
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there's nowhere to go but my wife and I
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through Bible reading found out that we
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could go to Christ and that's what we
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have done after I'd ran across some
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literature that exposed their false
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prophecies and they're deceitful ways of
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covering them up I then was able to
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realize that they weren't God's
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organization and I was able to search
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for God and I found Jesus Christ and he
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is my personal Savior and he's changed
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my life just a hundred percent we just
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prayed and gave our heart to Jesus and
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it seemed like such it was such a simple
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answer but that was that was what we've
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been searching for all our life and it
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wasn't an organization it was Jesus it
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was a personal relationship with Jesus
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that we didn't have before
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we knew at that very moment that our
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needs were written in the Lamb's Book of
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Life it was it was a free gift eternal
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life just given to us and all those
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works that we did all the thousands of
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hours that we that we put in for an
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organization all the hard striving was
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finished and just grace just grace saved
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us through faith just a simple act of
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obedience in prayer and asking the Lord
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to take over just filled us with joy and
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peace and joy that we never had never
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had as a witness
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barger and i spent many years working
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for the watchtower society but it was
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not till we left the organization that
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we discovered the real meaning of God's
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love our experience says to us that
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there's another ministry out there for
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Christians a ministry that will come
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knocking on their door the Jehovah's
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Witness who comes to your door is a
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person who's lost his way if you're
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prepared you can reach out and show him
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what true Christian Fellowship is it's
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been a long journey for us but we don't
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think it's been wasted the remainder of
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our years are going to be all the more
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precious to us because now we have a
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personal relationship with Jesus Christ
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we finally came to realize that eternal
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life is a free gift God's grace was all
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we needed just grace

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still time to get Jenny out of the
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hospital they would they would come up
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to me and say hey I've got a plan we can
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get her we can hire a helicopter we can
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sneak her out of this hospital just
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unhook the tubes and we're gone I said
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a minute you can't do that it's against
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it's against the law be charged with
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murder they said that's a chance you're
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going to have to take and I just told
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him look I just can't let my child die
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in that way and elders were just so
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upset they left in a huff they were mad
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and one of the elders said on the way
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out he looked me in the eye and said you
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know what I hope your daughter gets
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hepatitis from that blood and that was
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just the straw that broke the camel's
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back
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I was just broken here my own people
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God's organization turning against me
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cursing me because I just wanted to see
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my child live and so they left and we're
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all alone even my own Parris didn't come
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see us I think many times Jehovah's
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Witnesses have really never thought the
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blood thing through it's either right or
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it's wrong if it's wrong the watchtower
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society is guilty of causing the deaths
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of thousands of people that's wrong it's
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evil
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I think the evil needs to be seen for
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what it is it's this concept this
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organizational concept that the
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organization is everything you see mmm
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Jehovah's Witnesses believe that this
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organization is God's one channel that
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all of God's direction for people on the
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earth comes through this channel and the
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men on the governing body believe it I
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believed it that's the reason I was
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party to some things in the past that
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today I I feel shame to think that I
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even had part in them if the governing
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body of the watchtower society wholes
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and enjoys the power then they must also
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bear the responsibility the truth is
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they don't nothing better illustrates
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this than their false prophecy
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concerning 1975 when their society
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brought out the date 1975 I felt right
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away that this is going to be the date
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when the thing has to happen because
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there was no other date beyond 1975 that
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anybody could point to so I grabbed
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right a hold of it is this it was a
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thing to do and I put all my hopes in it
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by the mid 60
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the watchtower society had all but
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guaranteed that the world would come to
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an end in 1975 it was a prophecy that
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would bring in a flood of new members
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and the organization prospered but it
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would have other effects on the ordinary
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Jehovah's Witness we thought Armageddon
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was coming in 1975 so I did not have a
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career I didn't go to college because
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the end was so close there was no need
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the new world would be here I was a
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senior in high school and the circuit
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overseer which is a traveling minister
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advised me that it's best for you to
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quit school and go on the full-time
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pioneer work because the world is going
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to end in 1975 we felt so strongly about
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the eminent approach of 1975 met this
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whole system was coming to an end
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we sold our home in Lower Michigan move
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north build a Kingdom Hall and there we
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intended to live out those few remaining
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years have you saved just enough money
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to go a few years beyond 1975 so it was
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a great disappointment and distress when
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this event that the watch star had
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prophesied did not materialize I wanted
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to get married I wanted to have children
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but because the end was so close when
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Fred and I got married we decided that
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we would postpone having children so I
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believe we sacrificed a lot within the
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organization well when the end of the
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world didn't come in 1975 and that
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prophecy of the watchtower failed I
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began to wonder if they were wrong on
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this how many others are they wrong on
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and once again watched our fact was
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revealed as nothing more than contrived
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fantasy Jehovah's Witnesses tried to get
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an explanation but were unsuccessful
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apparently for the governing body
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nothing is so invisible as an unpleasant
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truth today they are quick to deny their
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prophecies for the end of the world we
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do not nor have we attempted predict a
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day or a time for it the history and
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prophecies of the watchtower society are
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easily revealed as fabrications and
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distortions by simply reading the
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material they've published from the
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beginning
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their greatest enemy is their own
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literature which clearly shows the
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man-made nature of their theology
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Jehovah's Witness leaders have

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desperate boy they can hardly escape
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responsibility for their policies in the
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African country of Malawi policies have
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left thousands of witnesses raped
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homeless or dead in the mid-1960s in the
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African country of Malawi all citizens
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were ordered by the government to
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purchase a 25-cent party identification
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card jehovah's witnesses were forbidden
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by the watched our society's branch
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office from complying with that law as a
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result jehovah's witnesses suffered a
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terrible persecution
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homes and crops were burned thousands of
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women were raped and some 20,000
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witnesses were forced to flee Malawi in
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two neighboring countries to live in
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refugee camps their lives scarred
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forever now Jehovah's Witnesses are
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taught that it's a sin to be involved in
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any way with politics they're also
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taught that it's just as greatest sin to
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have anything to do with the military
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but we have two situations one in a
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country in Africa Malawi and another in
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Mexico where two opposite rulings were
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allowed to stay in effect at the same
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time and it's almost unbelievable the
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results of this when Jehovah's Witnesses
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living in Mexico heard that their
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brothers had suffered this terrible
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persecution over a 25-cent party card
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they were conscience-stricken because in
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Mexico every young man is expected to
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fulfill one year of military service he
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receives what's called a Katia
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certificate the witnesses customarily
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and regularly would bribe a military
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official to fill out this card stating
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that they completed their military
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instruction and that they were now in
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the first reserves of the army why were
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they doing this they gave me copies of
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letters from the watchtower society's
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headquarters in New York stating that
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this was purely a matter for individual
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conscience and that if the person felt
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he could do this pay a bribe to a
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military official get this card saying
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he had completed his military training
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was now remember the first reserves this
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was up to him Jehovah's Witnesses
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believe the men who make up the
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governing body are chosen and directed
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by God yet out of apparent indifference
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or ignorance or worse the governing body
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allowed witnesses to illegally bribe
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officials while at the same time holding
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others to a policy that resulted in our
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wholesale rape and slaughter it's
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difficult for me to believe these
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actions were inspired by God
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the control chemicals of the governing
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body extend even into the life and death
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world of medical treatment
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in the 17th chapter of Leviticus and the
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10th verse it states that one should not
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eat blood of any sort this means that
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God does not want us to sustain our life
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off of the life of some other creature
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and that's without reason because God
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has forbidden it we abstain from taking
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look the blood issue in the back of our
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minds was bothering us because as
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Jehovah's Witnesses if we freely gave a
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blood transfusion to our daughter we'd
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be excommunicated we'd be this
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fellowship well the doctors finally came
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to our room and they just it was just
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like an ultimatum they said listen we
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know from our records that you're
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Jehovah's Witness we know that you don't
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take blood transfusions and the doctor
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looked me straight in the eye said
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mister mrs. Blizzard you have to make a
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decision yes or no whether your child
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lives or dies
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I remember going over to the bed and she
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had these cords and wires keeping her
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alive life-support systems
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and holding this lift child it was our
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only daughter and just going over to the
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window and looking out watching the
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clouds in the sky and just started to
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weep and I said Oh God Jehovah and I
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prayed to Jehovah we just had a real
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distinct impression that we were
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supposed to obey God's law and go by
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what we had always been taught and that
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we were to let our daughter die and so
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we just called the doctors back in and
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told them that we had just had to let
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her die that we had to obey God's law
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about a half an hour later a Sheriff
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Deputy came to our room and gave my wife
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and I both citations and they turned us
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that a court order has already been
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issued your daughter is going to get the
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blood and they also warned the staff of
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the hospital not to allow us to take
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Jennie out of the hospital and we were
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charged with child neglect and abuse the
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witnesses there was matter to them that
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came up to the room just swarmed the
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room tried to give them a given us
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watched our articles about artificial
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blood and you just can't let your child
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take that blood and just putting this
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heavy guilt trip on us the others were
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relieved to find out that there was

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other hand they want to be accepted by
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their teachers and classmates there is
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no way they can win they are literally
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torn apart emotionally I know this
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firsthand because my own daughter cried
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nearly every day in school from the
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first time she entered until an
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extremely loving teacher made her feel
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at ease in the fourth grade the life of
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a witness child is very isolated because
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playing with non witness schoolmates and
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neighborhood children is considered bad
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Association the watchtower society
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presents Jehovah's Witnesses as clean
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happy and unquestionably moral the Bible
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has a lot to say about family life and
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the reason Jehovah's Witnesses have such
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happy families is because we try to
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apply the principles that are found in
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the Bible this protects them from any of
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the pressures the problems that affect a
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family life today
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for example Jonah's witness is well not
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immune to the pressures and problems are
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able to cope with the difficulties that
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husbands and wives face the children are
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confronted with every day and so we have
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a very low incidence our family
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dissolving or juvenile delinquency drug
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abuse and alcoholism that shows the
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benefit in the profit following God's
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Word mostly former Jehovah's Witnesses
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disagree growing up as a child within
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Jehovah's Witnesses
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I always thought that this was God's
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clean organization but when I got older
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I found out that there were divorces
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there was gross immorality within the
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congregation's
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and that we were actually no different
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than the ones we were condemning as an
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elder I saw the seedy side of the
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congregation members would come to me
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with their problems and I found out that
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even elders were involved sometimes in
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crooked business practices and an
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immorality and I began to discover that
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we were really no better than the people
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on the outside of the organization but I
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left Bethel it was hard for me to even
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share with my mother and father what was
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going on up there that the drunken
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parties that went on and the
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homosexuality and things like this
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finally the watchtower had to admit that
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immorality had spread to the highest
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levels of the organization saying
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shocking as it is even some who have
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been prominent in Jehovah's organization
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has succumbed to immoral practices
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including homosexuality wife-swapping
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and child molesting
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alcoholism depression and mental
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disorders among Jehovah's Witnesses have
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come to the attention of psychiatric
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professionals dr. Jerry Bergman is a
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former Jehovah's Witness and a trained
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psychologist in my experience in working
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for a number of psychiatric clinics as a
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therapist I've worked with many many
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Jehovah's Witnesses and I find that many
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of them suffer from severe emotional
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problems from schizophrenia from severe
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depression alcoholism and other problems
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I've also consulted the scientific
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literature on this question and I found
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that it clearly confirms that the mental
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illness rate among the witnesses is
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clearly above average one of the most
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intimidating devices used by the
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watchtower society is the threat of
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appearing before a Judicial Committee of
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elders public censure even
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disfellowshipping can be the sentence of
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this powerful Court the inflexibility of
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watchtower policies has led to thousands
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of instances of mental distress even
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suicide
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dottie hikes family experienced the cold
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steel of watchtower doctrine when her
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sixteen-year-old son billy became
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romantically involved with a marriage
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ava's witness woman conscience-stricken
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billy turned to his parents he was a
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very upset
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extremely distraught and he just didn't
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know what to do and he was making
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statements like I just can't go on I
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just can't face this and he was
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threatening to commit suicide my husband
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I talked with him for hours and did
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everything and said everything we knew
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to do to try to get him to realize that
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there's no situation too bad that you
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can't face but things just were not
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getting any better so as witnesses
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you're taught not to seek the
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professional help of anyone so we felt
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our hands were so tied we didn't know
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what to do the family turned to an elder
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of the congregation for help the elder
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called Billy outside and his parents
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felt a solution was near but their hopes
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were short-lived we felt the elder would
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really have some kind of words of
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consolation for him even though no one
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condoned what he had done this boy was
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reaching out for help and he did need
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someone to console him and he felt so
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guilty and sought a loss and instead the
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elder just said the committee will deal
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with you tomorrow
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he went to my husband's truck where he
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kept a small amount of paraquat in a
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container and Billy took the paraquad
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and he took one swallow of it wait a min
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the hospital within 20 minutes
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exactly three weeks later he died
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did the witness congregation respond
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with compassion to this tragedy Billy's
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sister Rhonda when he died it really
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devastated me at his memorial service
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none of his friends that he had known
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all of his life were able to attend and
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that really hurt me the Jehovah's
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Witnesses claim to bring the families
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together through them my brother killed
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himself my mother tried to kill herself
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my two sisters and my brother will not
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speak to me my grandmother will not
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speak to me she wouldn't let me see my
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grandfather before he passed away they
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didn't bring our family close together
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they nearly totally destroyed it while
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the members of the governing body may
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escape blame for the death of one

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others that he had really been
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resurrected Jesus returned to his father
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in heaven where once again he became
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Michael the Archangel he will never
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again be seen on the earth in visible
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form but instead rules invisibly from
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the heavens when he executes judgment
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over the world at Armageddon he will
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destroy all but the faithful Jehovah's
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Witnesses
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Jesus alias Michael will always remain
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invisible to those on earth and can be
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seen only by the 144,000 select
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Jehovah's Witnesses who rule with him
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from heaven if you should choose to
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accept the watchtowers current prophecy
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of Armageddon whatever that may be and
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decide you protect yourself by becoming
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a jehovah's witness you will find
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yourself in a unique to class religion
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only the upper class the 144,000 spoken
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of in Revelation are guaranteed a place
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in heaven and they are known as the
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anointed the watchtower society teaches
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that the vast majority of Jehovah's
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Witnesses constitute a secondary group
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referred to as the other sheep they have
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no heavenly hope but must remain on
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earth for all eternity once a year on
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the anniversary of the Last Supper
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Jehovah's Witnesses and invited persons
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gather for this communion like ceremony
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only members of the anointed class who
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are alive today about 9,000 worldwide
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partake of the bread and wine the
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millions of other sheep will not take
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communion the other sheep are not in the
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New Covenant and therefore have no
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personal relationship with Jesus Christ
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how then do they hope to attain
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salvation the jehovah's witness is told
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he may not look to Jesus alone for
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everlasting life as one of the other
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sheep he must also depend on a
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watchtower organization for his passage
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to paradise in turn the organization
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says he's required to earn his salvation
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largely by calling door-to-door it's
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strange but their's they seem able to
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teach two different things opposite
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things simultaneously they agree that
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the Bible teaches that we are saved by
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grace are as they put it God's
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undeserved kindness and not by works and
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yet the average Witness believes he
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hasn't the slightest doubt that unless
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he performs the works that are laid out
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for him by the watchtower society
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the witnessing activity going
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door-to-door regular meeting attendance
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and other things that are brought out
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that he will never gain everlasting life
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once in the organization witnesses
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attend five hours of meetings a week in
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addition they are expected to devote
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many hours a month going door to door
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selling literature and gaining converts
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striving always to prove themselves
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worthy of escaping God's wrath at
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Armageddon even though we believed that
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God was love we were always afraid that
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he was going to zap us at some time
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Armageddon my head and we might not make
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it
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even if even if we didn't go out from
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the door-to-door ministry on a weekend
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and took our family out up to the lake
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or something we didn't go out the door
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go we felt guilty all the time
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in order to keep a close check on the
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activities of each member the
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organization requires them to turn in a
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monthly time report if they want to be
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retained on the roles as active
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Jehovah's Witnesses we don't keep any
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membership records per se but the only
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record we have is those who actually go
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door-to-door preaching
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today when the new Jehovah's Witnesses
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baptize rather than using the biblical
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format of baptizing in the name of the
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Father the Son and the Holy Spirit the
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witness is baptized in the name of the
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Father the Son and the Spirit directed
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organization this is a dedication to
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them that is without any reservation
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they are now going to set their entire
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life aside to do their creator's will
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thus baptize that Jehovah's Witness is
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now committed to slave for the
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organization until the world comes to an
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end Jehovah's Witnesses exist in a rigid
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structure thou shalt not environment
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they are forbidden to vote or hold
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elective office celebrate holidays
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belong to the YMCA or YWCA salute the
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flag sing the national anthem or
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participate in other patriotic
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activities they can't serve in the
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military or work for a military
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organization they may not accept blood
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transfusions read anything critical of
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the watchtower society or associate with
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former Jehovah's Witnesses they are
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forbidden to even attend church if life
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is narrow for the adult witness the
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problem is greatly intensified for their
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school-aged children the watchtower
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society has published a book entitled
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school and Jehovah's Witnesses it
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defines for schools what activities
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witness children are forbidden to
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participate in things like birthdays
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Russians Christmas and Easter sports
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mother's or Father's Day Valentine's Day
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or Thanksgiving saluting the flag or
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school dances singing the national
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anthem or saying the Pledge of
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Allegiance to the United States of
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America
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children are real victims in this
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Jehovah's Witness children cannot
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participate in many of the normal school
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activities and as a result are often
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mocked by their classmates they are
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really torn because on one hand they
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want to please their parents and on the

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Christ especially
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to find additional support for their
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altered scriptures the watchtower has
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even turned to the occult the New
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Testament a Bible translation by
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Johannes Gruber has been used as an
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authority in many of their publications
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Johannes Gruber was a spiritualist
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heavily involved with the occult his
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translation was completed under the
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direction of spirit messengers with the
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aid of his wife who was a self-professed
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spirit medium the willingness of the
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watchtower to accept any authority is
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reflected in the words of Charles taze
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Russell in the July 1879 issue of Zions
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watchtower where he stated a truth
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presented by Satan himself his just as
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true as a truth stated by God accept
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truth wherever you find it no matter
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what it contradicts this philosophy is
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reflected in the New World Translation
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of Jehovah's Witnesses when early
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Watchtower teachings that the world
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entered the so called time of the end in
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1799 that Jesus returned invisibly in
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1874 and that the world would end in
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1914 were proven false doctrine was
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conveniently readjusted in the new
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version 1914 became the date of both
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Christ's invisible return and the
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beginning of the time of the end this
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date was put forth not as theory or
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interpretation but as hard indisputable
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fact
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watchtower society official Eugene
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Mortensen all those witnesses from the
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study of the Bible have firm belief in
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the fact that since the fall of 1914
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Jesus has come into Kingdom power and as
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he prophesied in the 24th chapter of
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Matthew the generation saw the beginning
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of this time would not pass away until
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all things would be accomplished yet
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that means also the end of this wicked
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system thing the watchtower society is
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very concerned that time is running out
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for the so called generation of 1914 a
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few who are still living are quite
23:13
elderly and should they all pass away
23:15
before Armageddon Jehovah's Witnesses
23:17
will be faced with another false
23:18
prophecy to explain anticipating this
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future embarrassment the chairman's
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committee of the governing body actually
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prepared a document suggesting the date
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be changed from 1914 to 1957 Bremen
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Franz was a member of the governing body
23:32
when this recommendation was considered
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now in this document they suggests and
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advances a an idea that the generation
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that would see the time of the end of
23:50
all things should not be counted from
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1914 they fix on Jesus statement that
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there would be signs in the heavens and
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so they suggest here that the date
24:03
should be moved up to 1957 when the
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Sputnik was sent into space by the
24:08
Russians and they say now this is the
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celestial phenomena that would indicate
24:14
the generation that would see the final
24:18
wind up the Sputnik idea was ultimately
24:21
rejected by the governing body but for
24:23
the generation of 1914 time is running
24:26
out
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how did the watchtower arrive at 1914 as
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an all-important date their chronology
24:34
is based on the year 607 BC which they
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claim is the year Jerusalem fell to the
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Babylonians carl olaf johnson swedish
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author of the book the Gentile times
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reconsidered is a former Jehovah's
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Witness elder and pioneer minister i
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didn't question this chronology in the
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beginning because i thought the Bible
24:55
supported it I knew of course that the
24:59
historians dated the desolation of
25:01
Jerusalem not in 607 but in 587 there
25:05
were 586 but in 1968 I conducted a Bible
25:10
study with a man who wanted to know why
25:13
historians they prefer to date 20 years
25:16
later and so I started to investigate
25:20
the matter and I soon discovered that
25:23
the historians had very strong evidence
25:26
in this fort then Raymond Johnson
25:28
compiled his research and send it to
25:30
Watchtower headquarters but the
25:32
Society's leaders were determined to
25:34
keep their doctrinal system intact I got
25:38
the letter with a warning
25:39
I was warned that I shall not say my
25:42
findings with other witnesses to conceal
25:47
the facts and suppress his seven years
25:49
of research the watchtower society
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excommunicated Carl Olaf Johnson our
25:57
teaching on Jesus Christ is that Jesus
25:59
is the Son of God he was the first thing
26:02
that Jehovah created and through him
26:05
other creative works were then now some
26:08
religions teach that God and Jesus are
26:10
one the same but the bible does not
26:12
teach that and therefore neither do
26:14
jehovah's witnesses we believe that the
26:17
Bible teaches that Jesus carries out a
26:19
number of functions or Java God the most
26:22
time for example in the Hebrew
26:25
Scriptures he is referred to as Michael
26:27
Michael literally translated into
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English means me who is like God
26:32
Witnesses believe that Jesus Christ is a
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spirit creature a super angel the first
26:39
creation of Jehovah God who prior to
26:42
coming to earth as a man existed in
26:45
heaven has Michael the Archangel Jesus
26:49
started out originally as the locals for
26:56
Michael the Archangel
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who then came to earth as the virgin
27:07
born son of Mary he was a perfect
27:12
sinless man but he was only a man devoid
27:19
of all divinity Jesus walked the earth
27:22
as a man becoming the Christ only when
27:26
he was baptized Jehovah's Witnesses hold
27:30
the cross in contempt feeling that it is
27:33
nothing more than a pagan symbol used by
27:35
apostate christened 'm instead they
27:38
teach that at the completion of his
27:40
ministry Jesus died not on the cross but
27:44
on an upright stake
27:48
Christ's body was then laid in a tomb
27:50
where it was disintegrated by God
27:53
totally destroyed forever
27:57
Jesus was then recreated by the father
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before going to heaven he materialized
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in different bodies on different
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occasions to convince his disciples and

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Witnesses of Jehovah (Complete Official) - Jeremiah Films

Transcript
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what is happening here may be unique in
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American history
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the marches you see are not protesting
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unfair labor practices or advocating a
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political cause they are here to
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challenge the conscience of the wealthy
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and powerful watchtower society better
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known to the public as Jehovah's
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Witnesses Jehovah's Witnesses have a
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massive international organization with
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millions of members and hundreds of
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millions of dollars if the human base
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but this deeply committed group is not
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likely to be intimidated they have an
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urgent message to deliver you can't see
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the hurt that we feel but we have we
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have so much pain because so many of us
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are separated from our families because
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of the of the watched our organization's
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rules unfair unkind unloving unchristian
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rules the organization sets itself up in
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the place of Christ and that's something
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that the bible does not teach the reason
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we are here today is to attract
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attention
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to a genuine false prophet a genuine
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false prophet that jesus warned us about
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they have lied to us they have deceived
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us and we have the documented evidence
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the world we live in it can be a dark
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and frightening place a breeding place
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for greed heartbreak evil and nightmare
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far removed from mankind's greatest
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dream paradise surely all of us are
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thrilled at the prospect of surviving
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the end of this wicked world and living
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on into God's righteous new order
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what a grand future awaits us this
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confidence statement brimming with hope
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is from the watchtower society's
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publication you can live forever in
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paradise on earth
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it is this promise that attracts the new
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convert to become a Jehovah's Witness
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the thing that attracted me to the
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watchtower society was that they taught
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that Armageddon was so close that those
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who were living now would never have to
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die but that they could live forever I
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think one of the greatest things that
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appeals to the people is that we are
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taught that we were taught that we can
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live forever here on the earth and there
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would be peace perfect peace among men
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and animals the little children could
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play with the animals and there would be
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no harm and no hurt in all of the earth
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Jehovah's Witnesses came along with a
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positive message I thought from the
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Bible God had a plan and purpose for
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Martin Merriman and that is what I
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wanted to please God Martin Merriman was
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not alone on the jehovah's witness road
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statistics show that in the 22-year
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period between 1963 and 1985 the
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Jehovah's Witness organization grew from
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1 million members to 3 million Jehovah's
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Witness spokesman Eugene Mortensen they
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increase the travas Witnesses are
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experiencing right now is phenomenal
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last year for example worldwide we had a
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six point eight percent increase it all
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began in Pennsylvania in the late
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18-hundreds when Charles taze Russell
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came under the influence of a second
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Adventist preacher Russell initiated his
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own Bible study class a small group that
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would ultimately grow to become the
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Watchtower Bible and tract Society
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borrowing directly from the prophetic
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speculations of Nelson barber a New York
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second Adventist Russell claimed that in
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1799 the world had entered the time of
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the end that in 1874 Jesus Christ had
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returned invisibly and that the world
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would come to an end in the year 1914 in
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1879 Russell then 27 years of age was so
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passionately convinced these prophetic
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dates were given by God that he sold his
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prosperous clothing business and struck
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up in a new direction with very little
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education or theological background he
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began printing the magazine Zions
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Watchtower and Herald of Christ's
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presence known today as the watchtower
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this publication which has grown from an
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initial printing of 6000 to well over
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288 million copies annually dictates all
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major doctrines to jehovah's witnesses
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during his lifetime Russell authored a
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vast amount of literature including a
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series of volumes entitled studies in
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the scriptures according to Russell no
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one could understand the Bible without
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these books and reading the Bible alone
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would lead only to spiritual darkness
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one of Russell's teachings was that
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Egypt's Great Pyramid was designed and
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placed there by God as his second
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witness next to the Bible it would be an
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instrument to reveal his great plan of
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the ages for mankind
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this measurement indicates the length of
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the year the weight of the earth
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the distance to the Sun etc Russell
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believed his dates and chronology were
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confirmed by the measurements of the
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interior passageways of the Great
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Pyramid according to Russell the
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passageways verified 1914 as the year
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the world would end finally 1914 came
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and went
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Russell and his followers were not
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raptured from the earth and the end had
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not come john knight who was 15 years
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old at the time remembers what came next
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well in 1914 came of course we had to
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change our views just like we had to
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change views later the date was pushed
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forward to 1915 then 1918 certainly
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Armageddon was just around the corner
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but in 1916 Charles taze Russell died
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sick weary and disappointed a massive
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stone pyramid stands today at his
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gravesite as an embarrassing reminder of
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his false prophecies through hard fisted
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inside political manipulation Joseph
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Franklin Rutherford a Missouri lawyer
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who had given himself the title of judge
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became the second president of the
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Watchtower Bible and tract Society in
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1917 in 1918 judge Rutherford's lecture
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entitled millions now living will never
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die was the beginning of a worldwide
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recruiting effort called the millions
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campaign
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not too surprisingly it proclaimed the
08:17
coming destruction of the existing world
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it would happen soon
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in 1925 based upon the promises have
08:26
both in the Divine Word we must reach
08:28
the positive and indisputable conclusion
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it pains now living well never die in
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1920 the millions book was published in
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it Rutherford claimed the Bible proved
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that in 1925 Abraham Isaac Jacob and
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other faithful men of old were to be
08:48
resurrected to rule henceforth as
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princes on the new paradise earth fully
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convinced the Rutherfords prophecy was
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true many witnesses sold their homes and
09:02
businesses and took to the road living
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in cars and trucks like itinerant
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peddlers they spread the warning as
09:11
19:25 drew closer some farmers even
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refused to plant crops because they
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believed the end was at hand
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finally 1925 Higgs and as in 1914
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nothing happened
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once again the watchtower societies
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prophecy had proven false
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as Russell had done Rutherford doggedly
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held to the story that the end was just
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around the corner in 1929 the judge had
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this palatial mansion constructed it was
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deeded to Abraham Isaac and Jacob so
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they and other ancient worthies would
09:54
have a place to live when they were
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resurrected located in an exclusive
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district of San Diego it was given the
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name Beth serene Hebrew for house of the
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princes
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the world entered the Great Depression
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but Rutherford lived like a millionaire
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spending the winter months at best
10:21
serene summering in Europe
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as Americans suffered through poverty
10:30
and deprivation Rutherford enjoyed the
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use of two 16-cylinder Cadillacs
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under Rutherford the Watchtower Bible
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and tract society became a well-oiled
10:47
corporation new books literature and
10:50
tracts poured forth in a flood to be
10:52
sold door-to-door by faithful witnesses
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he drove his followers to labor hard for
10:58
the Lord he advised young couples not to
11:00
marry but to put all their energies into
11:03
proclaiming the kingdom even portable
11:05
photographs were utilized at the
11:07
doorstep cause the people have been
11:10
induced to believe that Christianity and
11:12
religion
11:13
are the same thing around the world
11:17
zealous witnesses paraded in front of
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churches on Sunday mornings bearing
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placards with the slogan religion is a
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snare and a racket keeping up with the
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times the society constructed its own
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radio station and by 1933 there were
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four hundred three stations nationwide
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broadcasting Rutherford's abusive
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railings against the clergy politicians
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and what he referred to as the greedy
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commercial us on the radio and in print
11:51
he continually stressed that the end of
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the world
11:54
was just months away the end finally
11:58
came but only for Rutherford in 1942 he
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died at Beth serene the house he had
12:04
built as a luxurious testimony to God's
12:06
name in retrospect perhaps the only
12:09
testimony this lovely mansion ever gave
12:11
was to the cash value of false prophecy
12:15
in 1948 the society quietly sold the
12:18
property covering up an embarrassing
12:21
chapter in its history today most modern
12:24
Jehovah's Witnesses are unaware that
12:25
Beth Sarim ever existed
12:30
quit Rutherford's pastor too flamboyant
12:32
era of charismatic personalities past as
12:35
well
12:42
today fueled by the anxieties of a
12:45
nuclear age the watchtower society is a
12:48
multinational corporate giant spreading
12:51
its new message of doom to every corner
12:54
of the globe
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standing between God and the millions of
12:58
jehovah's witnesses his an autocratic
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ruling council called the governing body
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because Jehovah's Witnesses believe the
13:06
Word of God is channeled to humanity
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through this elite committee alone
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these men rule with unchallenged
13:13
authority every witness is subject to
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their dictatorship from the cradle to
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the grave Raymond Franz author of the
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book crisis of conscience was a member
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of the watchtower society's governing
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body for nine of his 60 years as a
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jehovah's witness his account of their
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secret sessions is revealing I must say
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that it was one of the most
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disillusioning experiences my life it
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came as a a rude awakening to me to see
13:43
what actually went on I envisioned the
13:47
governing body as the body of men to
13:50
whom the Bible God's Word was the
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controlling force and every one of their
13:55
decisions who really dug into the
13:59
scriptures to make sure that everything
14:00
that they did was soundly based upon the
14:03
Bible and when I got into the governing
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body I found that the Bible was rarely
14:10
appealed to was rarely used that mainly
14:14
was a matter of discussing an
14:16
organizational policy and how to apply
14:18
this organizational policy and I found
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that again and again when issues came up
14:23
even those scriptures might be presented
14:27
if there was an organizational policy
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that policy would take precedence over
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Scripture and I couldn't help but think
14:35
of Jesus words in Matthew 23 that they
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have made the Word of God null and void
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because of their tradition while the
14:44
organization may not always consult
14:46
scripture in determining policy they
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never hesitate to cite scripture as
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proof of their authority the watchtower
14:54
society claims that it is the faithful
14:57
and wise servant or as Jehovah's
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Witnesses have translated it the
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faithful and discreet slave spoken of in
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Matthew 24 Leonard and Marjorie credi
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and our authors of the book
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witnesses of Jehova for 22 years they
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were loyal Jehovah's Witnesses Leonard
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had risen to the position of Elder and
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presiding overseer the original belief
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was that Charles taze Russell was the
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chosen slave the watchtower society
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taught that the stewardship of the
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things of God had been taken away from
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the Christian churches and given to
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Russell
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when Russell died they had to adjust
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their belief to fit a new set of facts
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now they claim that in 1919 having
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invisibly come into power over the earth
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Christ needed an organization to
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announce his kingdom and administer his
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affairs here so the story goes he
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carefully examined all the Christian
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religions and rejected them in favor of
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the watchtower society
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Peter Gregerson was a member of the
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watchtower society for nearly 50 years
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he was a highly respected elder and
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served in a number of responsible
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positions and as a result I started to
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do some very serious thinking about
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things that were going on inside the
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organization it seemed to me though that
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everything always came back to the
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question is the watchtower society and
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its leadership
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are they the faithful slave I really
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wanted to prove to myself that the
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watchtower society was right Gregerson
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decided to examine the same teachings
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that Christ would have examined in 1919
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when he was supposedly evaluating the
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world's religious organizations the
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watchtowers latest teachings at that
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time were published in a book called the
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finished mystery what I found absolutely
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destroyed my confidence in the
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watchtower they had said that the end of
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the world would come in 1914 and in this
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book that was just hot off the presses
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for Christ to investigate we're saying
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that by the spring of 1918 millions of
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people would be dying in the streets
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throughout the world it wasn't happening
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in 1918 Christ was supposedly examining
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this written material to see whether the
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watchtower society should be put in
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charge of all of God's interests on the
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earth and they were guilty of the worst
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kind of false prophecy in addition to
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false prophecy
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the Finnish mystery contained a number
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of other pretty ludicrous
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interpretations of Scripture according
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to them revelation 12 clearly shows that
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Michael and his angels are the Pope of
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Rome and his bishops revelation 14
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mentions a distance of sixteen hundred
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furlongs which this fascinating book
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explains as the distance from Scranton
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Pennsylvania to Watchtower headquarters
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in Brooklyn provided you go by way of
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the Hoboken Ferry and the Lackawanna
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Railroad the Bible speaks of the great
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sea monster Leviathan you may want to
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know what the Leviathan really looked
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like the finished mystery told jehovah's
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witnesses that leviathan was a steam
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locomotive and this little coupling link
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was its tongue this book the watchtowers
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main teaching book of the time included
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a prediction that in 1918 demons would
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invade the minds of the Christian Church
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which they refer to as the swine class
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we wish every Jehovah's Witness today
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could read the finished mystery for
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themselves they would probably reach the
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same conclusion Peter Gregerson did I
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spent a lot of time praying a lot of
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time thinking came to the conclusion
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there was no possible way that Christ
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Jesus as a judge could have looked at
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this information and have given the
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authority that was claimed by the
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watchtower society
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still Jehovah's Witnesses maintain that
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theirs is the only true religion all of
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those constitute the worldwide Empire of
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false religion the [ __ ] of Babylon
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spoken of in the book of Revelation the
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watchtower says these religions are
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guilty of spiritual fornication with the
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political and commercial rulers of the
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world and will all be slaughtered by God
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at Armageddon only the true Christians
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Jehovah's Witnesses will survive fm
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guide a watchtower spokesman and member
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of the headquarters staff explains what
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we feel Jehovah's Witnesses are the only
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true religion otherwise we would be
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teaching something else but the reason
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is because we follow the Bible
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completely to support its beliefs the
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watchtower organization has published
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its own version of the Bible called the
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New World Translation to lend credence
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to this translation the watchtower
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society has deliberately misquoted a
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number of well-known Greek scholars dr.
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Jo Monti an eminent Greek scholar was
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one of the authorities quoted out of
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context the watchtower society has
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implied that he supports their new world
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translation dr. Mann t disagrees I've
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never found any so-called translation
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that goes so far away from what the
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scripture actually teaches as these
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books published by two overs witnesses
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they are so far away from us there is
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and the original Hebrew and the original
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Greek dr. Mattie called the Jehovah's
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Witness Bible a shocking mistranslation
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obsolete and incorrect you can't follow
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theirs because it's a biased and it's
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deceptive because they deliberately
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changed words in a passage of Scripture
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to make it fit into their doctrine they
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distorted the scripture and many passage
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scores and scores of passages in New
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Testament dealing with the deity of

MaxInDHouse:
My God made peace reign among all his worshipers throughout the earth so i'm OK with that Sir!

You kind of PISS where the gullible ones are being brainwashed and the ones doing the brainwashing are making millions financially is not the kind of PEACE GOD wants for his true worshipers .

MaxInDHouse:
[s]This is commendable!
So you know that God's people in ancient times do go to war against the enemies of God.

So my question for you today is this:

Who are God's enemies and where are they stationed today?

Remember that there was no worshiper of God in the places God empowered David to kill people. So do you know of any place where there are no worshipers of God?

Please humble yourself and learn from God's modern day worshipers because we know the purpose of war back then and we can confidently tell you that there's no sense in the wars that's going on in the world today![/s]

You want others to learn from you and cannot use your data to watch youtude videos with documentary evidence on Biblical historical events you have no clue about except many of the children stories you have been reading in your Bible GOD did not write. The truth is that you are a BIG JOKER.

MaxInDHouse:
Explain what you have i'm not used to wasting my precious Data!

MaxInDHouse:
[s]And with all these stories, today this group is FULFILLING THE PROPHECY WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE BOOK OF ISAIAH AND MICAH!
[/s]
It shall come to pass in the latter days
that the mountain of the house of the Lord
shall be established as the highest of the mountains, and shall be raised above the hills; and all the nations shall flow to it, and many peoples shall come, and say:
“Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob;
that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
He shall judge between the nations,and shall decide for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So if you're interested in how many mistakes God's people made in their spiritual journey i am interested in the outcome of their journey!

The true GOD of the Old Testament is a GOD of War:
Numbers 31
1 The LORD said to Moses,
2 "Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people."
3 So Moses said to the people, "Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites and to carry out the LORD's vengeance on them.
4 Send into battle a thousand men from each of the tribes of Israel."
5 So twelve thousand men armed for battle, a thousand from each tribe, were supplied from the clans of Israel.

Psalm 144:1
A Psalm of David. Blessed be the LORD my Rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle—

MaxInDHouse:
Explain what you have i'm not used to wasting my precious Data!

Here are some part of the video transcript to help enlighten you on the origin of you belief:

Adventist preacher Russell initiated his 04:28 own Bible study class a small group that 04:31 would ultimately grow to become the 04:34 Watchtower Bible and tract Society 04:37 borrowing directly from the prophetic 04:39 speculations of Nelson barber a New York 04:42 second Adventist Russell claimed that in 04:45 1799 the world had entered the time of 04:49 the end that in 1874 Jesus Christ had 04:53 returned invisibly and that the world 04:56 would come to an end in the year 1914 in
05:02 1879 Russell then 27 years of age was so 05:06 passionately convinced these prophetic 05:08 dates were given by God that he sold his 05:11 prosperous clothing business and struck 05:13 up in a new direction with very little 05:16 education or theological background he 05:19 began printing the magazine Zions 05:21 Watchtower and Herald of Christ's 05:23 presence known today as the watchtower 05:29 this publication which has grown from an 05:32 initial printing of 6000 to well over 05:35 288 million copies annually dictates all 05:38 major doctrines to jehovah's witnesses 05:42 during his lifetime Russell authored a 05:45 vast amount of literature including a 05:47 series of volumes entitled studies in 05:49 the scriptures according to Russell no 05:52 one could understand the Bible without 05:54 these books and reading the Bible alone 05:56 would lead only to spiritual darkness
06:02 one of Russell's teachings was that 06:05 Egypt's Great Pyramid was designed and 06:07 placed there by God as his second 06:10 witness next to the Bible it would be an 06:13 instrument to reveal his great plan of 06:15 the ages for mankind 06:17 this measurement indicates the length of 06:20 the year the weight of the earth 06:22 the distance to the Sun etc Russell 06:26 believed his dates and chronology were 06:28 confirmed by the measurements of the 06:30 interior passageways of the Great 06:32 Pyramid according to Russell the 06:35 passageways verified 1914 as the year 06:39 the world would end finally 1914 came 06:48 and went 06:52 Russell and his followers were not 06:54 raptured from the earth and the end had 06:56 not come john knight who was 15 years
07:00 old at the time remembers what came next 07:04 well in 1914 came of course we had to 07:08 change our views just like we had to 07:10 change views later the date was pushed 07:13 forward to 1915 then 1918 certainly 07:21 Armageddon was just around the corner 07:24 but in 1916 Charles taze Russell died 07:29 sick weary and disappointed a massive 07:34 stone pyramid stands today at his 07:37 gravesite as an embarrassing reminder of 07:40 his false prophecies through hard fisted 07:46 inside political manipulation Joseph 07:49 Franklin Rutherford a Missouri lawyer 07:51 who had given himself the title of judge 07:54 became the second president of the 07:56 Watchtower Bible and tract Society in 07:59 1917 in 1918 judge Rutherford's lecture
08:03 entitled millions now living will never 08:07 die was the beginning of a worldwide 08:09 recruiting effort called the millions 08:12 campaign 08:13 not too surprisingly it proclaimed the 08:17 coming destruction of the existing world 08:19 it would happen soon 08:21 in 1925 based upon the promises have 08:26 both in the Divine Word we must reach 08:28 the positive and indisputable conclusion 08:30 it pains now living well never die in 08:35 1920 the millions book was published in 08:39 it Rutherford claimed the Bible proved 08:41 that in 1925 Abraham Isaac Jacob and 08:46 other faithful men of old were to be 08:48 resurrected to rule henceforth as 08:50 princes on the new paradise earth fully 08:57 convinced the Rutherfords prophecy was 08:59 true many witnesses sold their homes and
09:02 businesses and took to the road living 09:05 in cars and trucks like itinerant 09:07 peddlers they spread the warning as 09:11 19:25 drew closer some farmers even 09:14 refused to plant crops because they 09:16 believed the end was at hand 09:20 finally 1925 Higgs and as in 1914 09:26 nothing happened 09:30 once again the watchtower societies 09:34 prophecy had proven false................

MaxInDHouse:
Explain what you have i'm not used to wasting my precious Data!

You cannot use your data to watch youtube videos with documentary evidence that will make you knowledgeable and enlightened, but you are always here trying to display your lack of knowledge thinking you know all whereas your knowledge is no different from that of people living in the Stone Age.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus commanded us to put what he taught to practice and see if it will work out positively.
Today Jehovah's Witnesses have successfully achieved what no organization on this planet has ever achieved.
YES! We have gathered people in millions throughout the earth and erased military services from their hearts {Isaiah 2:2-4} in preparation for the coming Kingdom of Christ in which all inhabitants of the earth will live in peace with one another. Psalms 46:9
So what other PRACTICAL proof do any right thinking person wants? James 2:18-26

Then watch this video about Jehovah's Witnesses.
Transcript
00:32 what is happening here may be unique in 00:34 American history 00:35 the marches you see are not protesting 00:37 unfair labor practices or advocating a 00:40 political cause they are here to 00:42 challenge the conscience of the wealthy 00:44 and powerful watchtower society better 00:46 known to the public as Jehovah's 00:48 Witnesses Jehovah's Witnesses have a 00:53 massive international organization with 00:55 millions of members and hundreds of 00:57 millions of dollars if the human base 01:05 but this deeply committed group is not 01:06 likely to be intimidated they have an 01:09 urgent message to deliver you can't see 01:13 the hurt that we feel but we have we 01:16 have so much pain because so many of us 01:18 are separated from our families because 01:20 of the of the watched our organization's 01:24 rules unfair unkind unloving unchristian 01:27 rules the organization sets itself up in 01:31 the place of Christ and that's something 01:34 that the bible does not teach the reason 01:36 we are here today is to attract 01:37 attention 01:38 to a genuine false prophet a genuine 01:41 false prophet that jesus warned us about 01:44 they have lied to us they have deceived 01:47 us and we have the documented evidence.........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE3zp9FiyiQ

MaxInDHouse:
You're really mistaken my friend!
Wealth is nothing in God's Kingdom because everyone will be OK! Isaiah 65:23
It's under Satan's system of things that many are feeling bitter due to the fact that they're not enjoying the goodies but in God's Kingdom everyone will enjoy to the full.
That's why Jesus taught me to keep praying for God's Kingdom {Matthew 6:9-10} when God will bless all those living! Psalms 67:6-7

You are believing in a kingdom taught by a made up character about 2000 years ago. At least we can put black magic to the test here in the open and show that it cannot give wealth. But you cannot even put your made up character over 2000 years ago to the test to show you that kingdom he has taught about which you are using to deceiving many.
Your way of reasoning is the reason the country is in the state it is in today by deceiving themselves and others that a kingdom is coming where everyone will be OK.
If those that brought your forefathers the Bible you are using to deceive people today are waiting for that kingdom too you won't be using the internet today.

@MaxInDHouse

You are not different from someone believing in blackmagic for wealth and your own case is even worse because you believe that your wealth will come after you die because a made up character 2000 years ago has told you so.
You are always displaying your stupidity. There are no spirits that can give footbal results or wealth so stop deceiving yourself and others.

MaxInDHouse:
Now you are revealing your reasons for doubting the supernatural!
I have told you that there are spirits involved in all the things having to do with wealth and each of them have his own domain or field, they will never cross each other's line since they're all working for the same purpose.
To them wealth is like the garbage that man is heaping up whereas it's just the same eyes that he is using to see his heap of refuse that others will use to see it, he can't sleep in two houses at a time so if he builds a million, buy fleet of cars, own private jets and gather lots of slaves claiming he has industries it's only his name that's attached to it and nothing more.

What the supernatural value most is the life of this foolish descendant of Adam who doesn't know that God never planned life the way he is seeing it today. So the demons are prepared to give anything in exchange for your soul and when MaxInDHouse die they will dispense the heap of garbage you're claiming.


So don't expect the spirit of divination to reveal what the spirit of good luck is using as bait for his own subjects, each of them has his own plan of getting you on the road to MaxInDHouse early grave and speedily too.
The result of lotteries, pools and others alike are not to be revealed to anyone unless you are prepared to deal directly with the demon involved and he will have to bargain for MaxInDHouse soul regarding when to take it. Once you've signed up for your soul even God in the heavens will not add a second to MaxInDHouse days by the time your contract with the demon expires the only thing God will do for MaxInDHouse is to assure you of a resurrection if only you're prepared to return all that the demon has given you and you must be punished for your error which is death though temporary since you've been forgiven by the true God!

respect80:
Because gambling is devilish and the devil wouldn't want to frustrate his own agenda...
Note: me sef dey bet some times but I wish I don't

No wonder all the headquarters of blackmagic are poor and still backward because the devil of blackmagic only uses blackmagic to punish those practicing it and not to prosper the people practicing it.

Dawn91:
[s]Okay but like I said, you are too stupid to be allowed to open threads here and I will always be here to send them to oblivion.
Goat[/s]

If you are in a civilized country you will be locked up for posting images of cruelty to children. You are so senseless and foolish.
You are just too foolish and senseless to be using the internet that is meant for civilised people and not for someone like you with a brain that belongs to the primitive age.

Dawn91:
[s]Okay but like I said, you are too stupid to be allowed to open threads here and I will always be here to send them to oblivion.
Goat [/s]

You are too foolish and senseless to be using the internet that is meant for civilised people and not for someone like you with a brain that belongs to the primitive age.

Dawn91:
[s]I didn't even read the topic... I just don't like you and don't like any threads you create so to assume the topic means anything to me just shows you are dumb[/s]

You just opened up on why you are so dumb and senseless.

Dawn91:
[s][/s]

[s]Go and get a job and stop disgracing yourself [/s]

You are the one disgracing yourself. Do you know how many people have been looking for work for years but cannot find one and even many who have jobs but they cannot make ends meet.

Are you angry because you sell black magic as a job but you know what you are selling is fake.

This guy is still talking of horsemen when satan now has supersonic missiles. Which horseman will want to come and face satan's missiles?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpMj2PSAQZw

Why can black magic not be used to give correct football scores to help people. This will create riches for people in this area of the world that is the head quarters of black magic

MaxInDHouse:
So you believe a hundred years old man can impregnate a 90 years old woman, shey?

You never met Abraham or Sarah and Moses that was named as the writer of that story was not even born then so the age of Abraham and Sarah are not verifiable.

MaxInDHouse:
Funny atheists!
Yet you agreed that Abraham of 100 years could impregnate Sarah of 90 years shey?

Funny Roman Idol worshipper!
Abraham is a man and GOD did not tell Abraham the holy spirit will come on his wife Sarah and impregnated her and the one to be born will be called the Son of God. But in the case of Joseph he was not the one that impregnated Mary.
You never met Abraham or Sarah and Moses that was named as the writer of that story was not even born then so the age of Abraham and Sarah are not verifiable.

MaxInDHouse:
Well my God did which means my own God differs from yours!

Ofcourse my GOD is different from your God, because my GOD in the Old Testament does not impregnate another man's wife but your Roman idol God in the New Testament can impregnate another man's wife.

MaxInDHouse:
There's a difference between believing all that is written in the Bible and having the accurate knowledge of God's word!

Jesus is not talking about taking anyone to anywhere here, the word TAKEN has a meaning in correlation to what Jesus is saying there. So instead of forcing your interpretation on what is written just ask me how it correlates with other part of God's word.
That is totally different from the way you will say part of God's word has no meaning simply because you can't figure out it's meaning!

See how you are jumping from piller to post. You started with beleiving in all that is in the book which I have shown you don't. Now you have moved on to having the accurate knowledge of God's word, have you seen God before and spoken to God face to face to have accurate knowledge of God's word, if you say you have then you are referring to ifa which is not the same as the GOD in the Book we are discussing here.

MaxInDHouse:
There's a lot of differences here Sir
I believe in the entire book so i can explain everything that's written in the book as real life events but you selected what soothes your likeness or makes sense to you.
Secondly i preach (plead) with my listeners to believe (trust) in all that's written in that book while you are calling them names simply because they're not selective in what's found in the book.
Thirdly i present practical application and benefits they will enjoy now as they apply what they're learning while you are saying they should wait until a Messiah come yet you're here arguing instead of waiting as you said!
Please it's not the same Sir!

Oga' preacher make you calm down. You are sharing your own beleives to others and you don't even beleive all that's in the book you preach from. Here is an example: You don't beleive Jesus when He said in:

Matthew 24
40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.

MaxInDHouse:
They will be taken, to where?

Instead of studying the Bible with the true Christians to have the accurate knowledge of God's word you're following misinformed Churchgoers ideology and here you are trying to argue about who is or not a Christian.
This is hilarious!

And Jesus took him to the world beneath the Atlantic and Indian Ocean and Jesus can not stop them from doing what they are doing that is not good. GOD ALMIGHTY is using the technology from beneath the Atlantic and Indian Ocean to set the gullible free from many of the lies in the Bible to keep the gullible ones under the control of those who like to use lies from the Bible to control others. The internet and other technology have set a lot of people free from lies and to know the true nature of GOD ALMIGHTY.

MaxInDHouse:
Nobody is disputing the fact that there are those who disbelieve certain things but coming out to argue as if you know better than those who believe in the book is irrational.
Hold onto what you believe and leave others to what they believe since you don't believe everything that's written in the book!

Then my advice is for is you to also hold on to what you believe and keep it to yourself. But if you can share your believes and unbelieves to others then you cannot monopolise your believes on others and so I also can share my believes to others too.