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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 10:38pm On Jun 29, 2022*

@OkCornel

If ever your brain starts functioning, you should list all the Jewish historians who wrote about your Christus but don't include Josephus who was working for the Roman empire and was not born during the time of your Christus.

You and your deceiving colleagues are the ones that are morons. You don't know how backward you are when you can only surf the internet with your phone and when you have the opportunity to have electricity.

There are no sentiments here that Josephus was not born during the time of Jesus Christ he was made to write about by the Roman empire he was working for and against his own fellow Jews.

Where on the thread have I used screenshots from Reddit, my quotes have been from Britania and other educational sources unlike you using wikipedia that is not a reliable source. If you have a functioning brain who should be asking yourself were are all the historians during the time of your Christus when the Roman empire were occupying Isreal.

OkCornel:
When you are ready to provide evidence of all Jewish historians and scholars UNANIMOUSLY DENYING THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS CHRIST in their historical records, all these rants of yours are off point.

Quite a chore bringing morons up to speed in the scheme of things.

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 8:48am On Jun 29, 2022

@OkCornel

You and your deceiving colleagues are the ones that are morons. You don't know how backward you are when you can only surf the internet with your phone and when you have the opportunity to have electricity.

There are no sentiments here that Josephus was not born during the time of Jesus Christ he was made to write about by the Roman empire he was working for and against his own fellow Jews.

Where on the thread have I used screenshots from Reddit, my quotes have been from Britania and other educational sources unlike you using wikipedia that is not a reliable source. If you have a functioning brain who should be asking yourself were are all the historians during the of your Christus when the Roman empire were occupying Isreal.

OkCornel:
When you are ready to provide evidence of all Jewish historians and scholars UNANIMOUSLY DENYING THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS CHRIST in their historical records, don’t bother quoting me.

I need intellectually stimulating arguments backed by persuasive and sufficient evidence. Not appeals to emotions and screenshots of conversations taken from Reddit or wherever.

It’s a painful ordeal discussing with morons.

All hail Mindhacker9009, the Nigerian boy who knows the history of the Jews better than all Jewish scholars and historians combined

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 8:22am On Jun 29, 2022

@OkCornel

You are the one who's delusion is beyond cure.
If you have a functioning eye and a functioning brain and you can research you'll know that the only Jewish historian the Roman Empire allowed to write the history of the Jews they conquered was Josephus who worked for the Roman empire and became a traitor to his fellow Jews to save his own life while thousands of Jews laid their lives for their mosaic law and would not give in to Roman pagan rule of their holy land.

So for your information Josephus' writings about Jesus Christ were influenced by the Roman empire and as such if you have a functioning eye and a functioning brain you would have noticed that "brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James" does not show any clarity of who these two people are. Compare that to, Josephus wrote that Jesus, the son of Damneus, was made high priest. Scholars have agreed that it is unlike Josephus a Jew to not introduce the character he talks about to give clarity.

Also Josephus was not born during the time of Jesus Christ so if you have a functioning brain you'll know that Josephus' accounts of the events during the time of Jesus Christ are not authentic.

OkCornel:
Mindhacker9009 the Nigerian boy suddenly knows the history of the Jews better than the Jews themselves

Mindhacker9009 thinks he’s right while all the historians who concluded Jesus Christ existed is wrong.

This delusion of yours is obviously beyond cure.

Going by your watery logic, since James father wasn’t also mentioned too…that means James is fake too.

Feel free to quarrel with the Jewish historians, and while at it, provide us evidences where all Jewish scholars and historians UNANIMOUSLY DENIED THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS CHRIST in their history.

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 7:08pm On Jun 28, 2022

@OkCornel

If you have a functioning eye and a functioning brain you would see that Josephus wrote that Jesus the son of Damneus, was made high priest. Scholars have agreed that it is unlike Josephus a Jew to not introduce the character he talks about to give clarity. So for Josephus to not introduce Jesus as the son of someone is unlike him. Also Josephus was not born during the time of Jesus Christ so if you have a functioning brain you'll know that Josephus' accounts of the events during the time of Jesus Christ are not authentic.

Christus is not the same as "Jesus Christ" as Josephus mentioned other Jesuses as well.

Also Josephus writings have been translated so there is no way to verify with his original writings

OkCornel:
I believe you have functioning eyes...Read the screenshots again and see the meaning of Christus (Latin).
As I earlier mentioned, stop wearing your ignorance like a head warmer.
As a matter of fact, this further validates the Jesus Christ of Nazareth, brother of James in Chapter 9, Book 20 - Antiquity of the Jews which all scholars agree to be an authentic record

OkCornel:
The unlettered folk is on the beat again.

Let me break it down for you, since something so basic is too hard for you to comprehend.

1. The point is on the existence of Jesus Christ. His younger brother, James was hastily sentenced to death by Ananus the high priest. Because Ananus did not follow protocol, King Agrippa removed him from the high priest position and replaced him with Jesus son of Damneus.

2. Read the third and fourth screenshot, see the spelling of Christ in Latin and Greek. If indeed you have functioning eyes and a sound mind.

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 6:56pm On Jun 28, 2022

OkCornel:
I believe you have functioning eyes...Read the screenshots again and see the meaning of Christus (Latin).
As I earlier mentioned, stop wearing your ignorance like a head warmer.
As a matter of fact, this further validates the Jesus Christ of Nazareth, brother of James in Chapter 9, Book 20 - Antiquity of the Jews which all scholars agree to be an authentic record

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 1:46pm On Jun 28, 2022

@OkCornel

You are showing your ignorance and foolishness here. For your information Christus is not the same as Jesus Christ. That your Christus is not the same as Jesus Christ today.

Christus: "a most mischievous superstition. Thus checked for the moment, not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular"

OkCornel:
Oh my days, you are really ignorant.

I'll put a screenshot of the spelling of the word "Christ" in Greek, Latin etc...

You really need to brush up your knowledge and stop wearing your ignorance like a head warmer...

Once more, thanks for finally admitting the followers of Jesus Christ existed in the days of Emperor Nero

It is absolutely foolish to think the Roman Empire "created Jesus Christ" only to end up persecuting the followers of this "Jesus Christ"... it's one of the most retar.ded arguments I've come across on this forum.

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 1:22pm On Jun 28, 2022

OkCornel:
Aaaaah!!! Per the bolded in red, mindhacker9009 finally admits the followers of Jesus Christ EXISTED IN THE DAYS OF NERO, and were persecuted.

My mission is finally accomplished. The most supreme joker of that ever existed in the multiverse admits to the existence of Jesus Christ and his followers long before the Roman Catholic Church was formed

Hahahaha…

You are a supreme deceiver and an absolute JOKER, if not you'll know that Christus not not the same as Jesus Christ and that at not time did I say the Catholic Church created Jesus Christ, they were your own words as you are an absolute JOKER.

This is your Christus: "a most mischievous superstition. Thus checked for the moment, not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular"

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 8:21am On Jun 28, 2022

@OkCornel

You are the one that is unlettered, if not you would have seen what Tacitus stated relating to your Christus that "a most mischievous superstition. thus checked for the moment, not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular"
If you are not the one who is the most unlettered you would have noticed where the followers of your Christus during the time of Nero were not different from you today full of mischievous superstition and evil.

OkCornel:
This unlettered folk who knows next to nothing on history/religion, open your eyes and read the accounts of another authentic historian - Tacitus.

Patiently waiting for you to claim this is a falsified account

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 7:15am On Jun 28, 2022

@OkCornel
Keep disgracing yourself with your deceits since you are the BIGEST JOKER in the universe that ever liveth.

Go and find more lies to put in your joke-box and when you come back you will be busted again and again no matter the amount of times you go and come back cheesy

OkCornel:
The biggest joker that ever liveth in the multiverse has shifted to another lie on the death of Peter and Paul. Watch how he’ll disgrace himself again. I’ll be back

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 12:55am On Jun 28, 2022*

@OkCornel

You are the BIGGEST JOKER in the universe that ever liveth cheesy

If not you would have asked yourself why all the prophets from Moses in the Old Testament wrote their own books from 1200 to 165 BC but the eyewitnesses to the existence of Jesus Christ did not write any book throughout the ministry of Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ Himself too did not write any book.

Execution of Peter and Paul in Rome are stories by legends so are unreliable

Go back and read my posts below again.

MindHacker9009:
@OkCornel
Read my last post again:

You are a VERY BIG JOKER: Go back and read my post. I never said the Catholic Church authored the New Testament.

Show proof that the christians Nero persecuted were following the type of Jesus Christ in the New Testament we have today.

MindHacker9009:
Josephus Flavius' writing on Jesus Christ is fake and was influenced by the Roman empire who captured and asked him to write a history on the Jews.

Nero blamed the christians then as a way to build a new palace for himself and he carried out other atrocities as well.
We are not sure of what the early christian believed in as they had no say in which gospels were included in the Bible as this decision was taken by the Roman emperor Constantine with the priests and bishops during the council of Nicea.

The account of what happened to Apostle Peter and Paul are stories told by legends so they are not authentic.

The Roman Catholic church was the ones that brought the Bible to the rest of the world and the King James version by King James and the others followed.

MindHacker9009:
Nigerians are now the ones doing evangelism to other parts of Nigeria since independence in 1960 and even to other parts of the world including Europe where the New Testament came from since the 1970's . Is chritianity not about preaching the gospels to the whole world, so why would Matthew & Bartholomew the direct disciples of Jesus Christ take the gospels to Ethiopia in the first century and then the Ethopians will sit down and wait for another 300 years for a catholic priest to come and help them to penetrate into other parts of Ethiopia.

If Matthew & Bartholomew the direct disciples of Jesus Christ were the ones that brought chritianity to Nigeria with all the power Jesus Christ have given them, do you think Nigerians will wait 300 years later for a catholic priest to come and help them take it to other parts of Nigerian?

Your are a BIG JOKER!

OkCornel:
You’re the biggest joker that ever liveth!

1. Now that you've changed your stance, kindly tell us who authored the new testament. Hint (They’re eye witnesses to the existence of Jesus Christ)
2. Read the screenshot. You've got functioning eyes. Emperor Nero executed Peter and Paul who were followers of Jesus Christ of the New Testament.

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 1:59pm On Jun 27, 2022

@OkCornel
Read my last post again:

You are a VERY BIG JOKER: Go back and read my post. I never said the Catholic Church authored the New Testament.

Show proof that the christians Nero persecuted were following the type of Jesus Christ in the New Testament we have today.

MindHacker9009:
Josephus Flavius' writing on Jesus Christ is fake and was influenced by the Roman empire who captured and asked him to write a history on the Jews.

Nero blamed the christians then as a way to build a new palace for himself and he carried out other atrocities as well.
We are not sure of what the early christian believed in as they had no say in which gospels were included in the Bible as this decision was taken by the Roman emperor Constantine with the priests and bishops during the council of Nicea.

The account of what happened to Apostle Peter and Paul are stories told by legends so they are not authentic.

The Roman Catholic church was the ones that brought the Bible to the rest of the world and the King James version by King James and the others followed.

MindHacker9009:
Nigerians are now the ones doing evangelism to other parts of Nigeria since independence in 1960 and even to other parts of the world including Europe where the New Testament came from since the 1970's . Is chritianity not about preaching the gospels to the whole world, so why would Matthew & Bartholomew the direct disciples of Jesus Christ take the gospels to Ethiopia in the first century and then the Ethopians will sit down and wait for another 300 years for a catholic priest to come and help them to penetrate into other parts of Ethiopia.

If Matthew & Bartholomew the direct disciples of Jesus Christ were the ones that brought chritianity to Nigeria with all the power Jesus Christ have given them, do you think Nigerians will wait 300 years later for a catholic priest to come and help them take it to other parts of Nigerian?

Your are a BIG JOKER!

OkCornel:
This is one of the funniest replies I’ve got.

Did you consider the impact of persecution and competition from other competing religious beliefs which made Christianity wane in influence/stagnate in growth prior to further Christianisation attempts?

Please how many missionaries from Europe came to Nigeria prior to 1960? Please tell us. Juxtapose this against “further Christianisation” of Ethiopia.

Your thought process is so comical to be honest.

Apparently, history and religion is not your strong point.

Now, stop dodging my questions.

1. Where are your evidence(s) the Roman Catholic Church authored the New Testament?

2. Why did the Roman Empire from the period of Nero’s rule up to the last Emperor before Constantine persecute and kill Christians if indeed the Roman Empire “invented Jesus Christ”?

You are the biggest Joker

OkCornel:
Oooh, our nairaland’s foremost comedian has backtracked on his claims that the New Testament came from the Roman Catholic Church? If it wasn’t the Roman Catholic Church that authored the New Testament, then who did? Hmmm?

For your second question. Open your eyes and read the screenshot. Emperor Nero also executed Peter and Paul who were followers of Jesus Christ of the New Testament.

Go and study history and stop embarrassing yourself here.

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 12:44pm On Jun 27, 2022

@OkCornel: You are a VERY BIG JOKER: Go back and read my post. I never said the Catholic Church authored the New Testament.

Show proof that the christians Nero persecuted were following the type of Jesus Christ in the New Testament we have today.

MindHacker9009:
Josephus Flavius' writing on Jesus Christ is fake and was influenced by the Roman empire who captured and asked him to write a history on the Jews.

Nero blamed the christians then as a way to build a new palace for himself and he carried out other atrocities as well.
We are not sure of what the early christian believed in as they had no say in which gospels were included in the Bible as this decision was taken by the Roman emperor Constantine with the priests and bishops during the council of Nicea.

The account of what happened to Apostle Peter and Paul are stories told by legends so they are not authentic.

The Roman Catholic church was the ones that brought the Bible to the rest of the world and the King James version by King James and the others followed.

MindHacker9009:
Nigerians are now the ones doing evangelism to other parts of Nigeria since independence in 1960 and even to other parts of the world including Europe where the New Testament came from since the 1970's . Is chritianity not about preaching the gospels to the whole world, so why would Matthew & Bartholomew the direct disciples of Jesus Christ take the gospels to Ethiopia in the first century and then the Ethopians will sit down and wait for another 300 years for a catholic priest to come and help them to penetrate into other parts of Ethiopia.

If Matthew & Bartholomew the direct disciples of Jesus Christ were the ones that brought chritianity to Nigeria with all the power Jesus Christ have given them, do you think Nigerians will wait 300 years later for a catholic priest to come and help them take it to other parts of Nigerian?

Your are a BIG JOKER!

OkCornel:
This is one of the funniest replies I’ve got.

Did you consider the impact of persecution and competition from other competing religious beliefs which made Christianity wane in influence/stagnate in growth prior to further Christianisation attempts?

Please how many missionaries from Europe came to Nigeria prior to 1960? Please tell us. Juxtapose this against “further Christianisation” of Ethiopia.

Your thought process is so comical to be honest.

Apparently, history and religion is not your strong point.

Now, stop dodging my questions.

1. Where are your evidence(s) the Roman Catholic Church authored the New Testament?

2. Why did the Roman Empire from the period of Nero’s rule up to the last Emperor before Constantine persecute and kill Christians if indeed the Roman Empire “invented Jesus Christ”?

You are the biggest Joker

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 11:22pm On Jun 26, 2022*

OkCornel:
Goodness gracious. Even a country like Nigeria still has places where Christianity has not penetrated or just recently penetrated. In your funny thought process, Matthew & Bartholomew covered all the square inches in Ethiopia when they preached

Nigerians are now the ones doing evangelism to other parts of Nigeria since independence in 1960 and even to other parts of the world including Europe where the New Testament came from since the 1970's . Is chritianity not about preaching the gospels to the whole world, so why would Matthew & Bartholomew the direct disciples of Jesus Christ take the gospels to Ethiopia in the first century and then the Ethopians will sit down and wait for another 300 years for a catholic priest to come and help them to penetrate into other parts of Ethiopia.

If Matthew & Bartholomew the direct disciples of Jesus Christ were the ones that brought chritianity to Nigeria with all the power Jesus Christ have given them, do you think Nigerians will wait 300 years later for a catholic priest to come and help them take it to other parts of Nigerian?

Your are a BIG JOKER!

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 10:49pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
Read my response to your question in case you didn’t see it. Further evangelical work to spread the gospel in places it had not reached in Ethiopia! See the screenshot. Read and think!

Judaism and Christianity is not the same thing. If it was, why would Apostle Matthew or Bartholomew bother to preach Christianity there in the first place?

This isn’t rocket science… smh.

Now answer my questions.

1. Where are your evidence(s) the Roman Catholic Church authored the New Testament?

2. Why did the Roman Empire from the period of Nero’s rule up to the last Emperor before Constantine persecute and kill Christians if indeed the Roman Empire “invented Jesus Christ”?

Well if St.Matthew and St.Bartholomew who were the direct disciples of Jesus Christ had already Christianized Ethiopia, then there was no need again for the Catholic Church go back to further Christianized them.

1. For your first question. Watch the youtube video I have posted here, which was a research by top renowned historians who got access to official Roman empire documents.

2. For your second question, there is no proof that the early christians believed in the resurrection and the second coming.
There are also the Gnostic Gospels that were written in the second century AD: Secret Gospel of Mark, Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Judas and more but none of them talks of resurrection and the second coming.

"On the other hand, the Gnostic Gospels were written in the second century AD: “The canonical gospels were being read and quoted as carrying authority in the early and middle second century, whereas we do not even hear of the non-canonical ones until the middle or end of that century” https://www.gcu.edu/blog/theology-ministry/are-gnostic-gospels-reliable-sources

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 9:35pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
And mindhacker keeps dodging the question. What a pity.

The answer to your own question is in the very source you quoted. Further evangelical work was undertaken by St Frumentius who was a Phoenician missionary at the time. Jeez see the screenshot.

Christianity was already in Ethiopia prior to arrival. They consolidated on the work of their forerunners.

Now please show us where the Catholic Church authored the New Testament,

And why the Roman Catholic Church persecuted Christians if indeed they “created Jesus Christ”

That same source states that: "Tradition holds that Ethiopia was first evangelized by St. Matthew and St. Bartholomew in the 1st century ce, and the first Ethiopian convert is thought to have been the eunuch in Jerusalem mentioned in The Acts of the Apostles (8:27–40).
"

If St.Matthew and St.Bartholomew who were the direct disciples of Jesus Christ had already Christianized Ethiopia, then why the need again for the Catholic Church go back again and Christianized them? Was the Christianization from the direct disciples Jesus Christ not more valid than that of the Catholic Church?

Judaism was in Ethiopia since the time of King Solomon.

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 9:09pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
Mindhacker9009, can you please explain why the Roman Empire right from the era of Emperor Nero to the Emperor before Constantine persecute Christians if Jesus Christ was created by the Roman Empire?

Why would the Roman Empire persecute the followers of a “Jesus Christ” you claim they created?

I have answered your question before and I can answer it again but for now:

I will asked you again and again and again: If they were Christians already why do they need to be further Christianized again by the Catholic Church?

Judaism was in Ethiopia since the time of King Solomon.

OkCornel:
Oh my goodness. What exactly is the problem here? Are you struggling to understand there’s a difference between Judaism and Christianity?

And if there’s no evidence of Christianity in Ethiopia before the arrival for St. Frumentius…why did he arrive to FURTHER CHRISTIANISE the Ethiopians?

Guy, you’re really disappointing me with your logic.

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 9:05pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
After you provide evidence the Roman Catholic Church authored the New Testament.

You think you can you make fraudulent claims and we turn a blind eye to that?

Your deceit will not work. I will asked you again and again: If they were Christians already why do they need to be further Christianized again by the Catholic Church?

Judaism was in Ethiopia since the time of King Solomon.

OkCornel:
Oh my goodness. What exactly is the problem here? Are you struggling to understand there’s a difference between Judaism and Christianity?

And if there’s no evidence of Christianity in Ethiopia before the arrival for St. Frumentius…why did he arrive to FURTHER CHRISTIANISE the Ethiopians?

Guy, you’re really disappointing me with your logic.

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 8:42pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
The question you should be asking yourself is how Christianity got there in the first place, and if there were scriptures in circulation prior to the formation of the Catholic Church!

No you should tell us why:
If they were Christians already why do they need to be further Christianized again by the Catholic Church?

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 8:36pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
Oh my goodness. What exactly is the problem here? Are you struggling to understand there’s a difference between Judaism and Christianity?

And if there’s no evidence of Christianity in Ethiopia before the arrival for St. Frumentius…why did he arrive to FURTHER CHRISTIANISE the Ethiopians?

Guy, you’re really disappointing me with your logic.

Your deceit will not work. I will asked you again: If they were Christians already why do they need to be further Christianized by the Catholic Church?

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 8:31pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
How did Christianity get to Ethiopia before the formation of the Roman Catholic Church?

And where was the scriptures used to propagate Christianity there generated from? Planet Mars?

No documentary evidence to show that Christianity was already in Ethiopia before Saint Frumentius a Catholic , went there in the 4th century to further Christianize them. If they were Christians already why do they need to be further Christianized by the Catholic Church?

Judaism was in Ethiopia since the time of King Solomon.

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 8:19pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
Mindhacker, we are still waiting patiently for your evidence that the Roman Catholic Church authored the scriptures which were in circulation in Egypt and Ethiopia within the first century AD (long before the Roman Catholic Church was formed)

The New Testament of the Bible came from the Roman Catholic Church

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 8:01pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
Why are you doing this to yourself?

Kindly provide proof this St. Frumentius authored the Ethiopian Bible.

I’m patiently waiting.

I repeat, the Ethiopian Bible which is the oldest and most complete in the world is free from Roman Catholic influence.

Prove to everyone here the Ethiopian Bible was tampered with by the Roman Catholic Church.

Patiently waiting.

Then read this again
Ethiopia was further Christianized in the 4th century ce by two men (likely brothers) from Tyre—St. Frumentius, later consecrated the first Ethiopian bishop, and Aedesius.
"Saint Frumentius, Amharic Abba Salama, (flourished 4th century; feast day October 27 in the Roman Catholic Church."

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 7:44pm On Jun 26, 2022

OkCornel:
For starters, the bolded part of your quote reeks of ignorance. The Ethiopian Bible which is the oldest and most complete in the world is free from Roman Catholic influence.

This further destroys your claims that the Roman Catholic "invented" Jesus Christ

Research history thoroughly before making ludicrous claims mehn

Then let me lecture you. See information below from: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ethiopian-Orthodox-Tewahedo-Church
"Ethiopia was further Christianized in the 4th century ce by two men (likely brothers) from Tyre—St. Frumentius, later consecrated the first Ethiopian bishop, and Aedesius."
"Saint Frumentius, Amharic Abba Salama, (flourished 4th century; feast day October 27 in the Roman Catholic Church."

"Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, autocephalous Oriental Orthodox church in Ethiopia. Headquarters are in Addis Ababa, the country’s capital.

Tradition holds that Ethiopia was first evangelized by St. Matthew and St. Bartholomew in the 1st century ce, and the first Ethiopian convert is thought to have been the eunuch in Jerusalem mentioned in The Acts of the Apostles (8:27–40). Ethiopia was further Christianized in the 4th century ce by two men (likely brothers) from Tyre—St. Frumentius, later consecrated the first Ethiopian bishop, and Aedesius. They won the confidence of the king at Aksum (a powerful kingdom in northern Ethiopia) and were allowed to evangelize. The succeeding king, Ezana, was baptized by Frumentius, and Christianity was made the state religion. Toward the end of the 5th century, nine monks from Syria are said to have brought monasticism to Ethiopia and encouraged the translation of the Scriptures into the Geʿez language."

Christianity Etc › Re: ************************ by MindHacker9009(op): 3:32pm On Jun 26, 2022

Kobojunkie:
Interesting! However, God specifically gave that Law as the Constitution of the Nation of Israel which He created of the descendants of Jacob in the Land of Canaan. It was never meant by God for any other people or Nation, especially since no other creation was designed and created by God in much the same way.

So how can you pretend you honor God by following the Law and agreement He excluded you and your kind from? Do you suppose that God must have been high off His horses or drunk when He made the decision to exclude other nations from that agreement or something?,

These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Matthew 10:5 Jesus never preached outside of Israel and he did not want His disciples to go to the gentiles, so the truth is that the Gospels of Jesus were not meant for you.

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Christianity Etc › ************************ by MindHacker9009(op): 3:07pm On Jun 26, 2022*

Not enough original content
Please take a moment to write a quality post with at least 40 characters.
This will make the forum more interesting for everyone.

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 7:38am On Jun 25, 2022

OkCornel:
Unauthentic by whose judgment? Yours?

It seems you know the history of the Jews better than the Jews themselves

This is an authentic Jewish website see what they have to say about Josephus Flavius https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2808840/jewish/On-History.htm

Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 6:42am On Jun 25, 2022*

OkCornel:
What makes it even more hilarious is your thought process that he never met Jesus or had eye witness accounts therefore, what he wrote was wrong. Did Josephus Flavius have eye witness accounts on King David? Or Saul? Or the Maccabees? Did Josephus witness the events in those times? Yet you have no problem with these parts of his work. Thanks for confirming your bias once more.

The Old Testament was written hundreds of years before Josephus Flavius was born so they are not his own account as he was just writing about what he has read in the Jewish scrolls being a Jew from a priestly family.

Josephus Flavius writes: "now it
came to pass while Padus was procurator
of Judea that a certain magician whose
name was Judas persuaded a great part of
the people to take their effects with
them and follow him to the River Jordan
for he told them that he was a prophet
and that he would by his own command
divide the river and afford them an easy
passage over it and many were deluded by
his words
however Padus did not permit them to
make any advantage of his wild attempt
but sent a troop of horsemen out against
them who falling upon them unexpectedly
slew many of them and took many of them
alive they also took Theudas alive
and cut off his head and carried it to
Jerusalem this is what we befell the
Jews in the time of Cuspius Padus's
government. Judas said
he would part the Jordan river this is
obviously another allusion to Joshua the
prophet who had parted the Jordan
himself in Joshua chapter three"
This is why real Jews see Josephus Flavius' history as full of distortions.

You are trying to derail the thread on Jesus Christ as you are trying to use any information from the unauthentic writings of Josephus Flavius to back up your deceit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQzZPGBMmVc

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 5:51am On Jun 25, 2022

There are Jews who are adamant in proclaiming Josephus Flavius "to be an opportunistic traitor who fawned on the Romans for self-preservation, and whose history is full of distortions." https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2808840/jewish/On-History.htm

Christ is not a Jewish word and historians have agreed that Josephus Flavius being a Jew from a priestly family would have explained what
Christ is as Christ is not a Jewish word.

Josephus Flavius' writing on Jesus Christ is fake and was influenced by the Roman empire who captured and asked him to write a history on the Jews.

Josephus Flavius was not born during the supposed time of Jesus Christ so his account is 100% not authentic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QqGRjpGbuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQzZPGBMmVc

OkCornel:
Thanks for confirming you have no answer to these posers:

1. Jewish historians and scholars unanimously denying THE EXISTENCE of Jesus Christ.

2. Who Emperor Nero blamed for the great fire of Rome.

Oya copy and paste your previous answer.

What a disappointment.

Cc: NNTR, MaxinDHouse, Budaatum

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 5:37am On Jun 25, 2022

You are very deceitful. This thread is about the creation of "Jesus Christ'' by the Roman empire. You like to pick just a few words and dwell on those without going by the full text and the information it provides.
To show your deceit, how did you miss this from the authentic Jewish link I posted:
"This is a movement of non-Jews who pose as Jews by taking on Jewish names. They do usually have a token Jewish member, who is invariably either ignorant of Judaism at best or psychologically imbalanced at worst. They are a sham." https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/160992/jewish/Can-a-Jew-believe-in-Jesus.htm
The answers on the site are from renowned Jewish Rabis.

Josephus Flavius was a traitor to the Jews as he was more concerned about saving his own life so he was an easy tool to be used by the Roman Empire to write about Jesus Christ.
Christ is not a Jewish word and historians have agreed that Josephus Flavius being a Jew from a priestly family would have explained what
Christ is as Christ is not a Jewish word. So the truth is that you are the one who is not intelligent.

Josephus Flavius' writing on Jesus Christ is fake and was influenced by the Roman empire who captured and asked him to write a history on the Jews.

Josephus Flavius was not born during the supposed time of Jesus Christ so his account is 100% not authentic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QqGRjpGbuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQzZPGBMmVc

OkCornel:
You have just reinforced the bias I mentioned earlier on this thread. You don’t have issues with any other part of Josephus’ work except for what he wrote about Jesus.

What makes it even more hilarious is your thought process that he never met Jesus or had eye witness accounts therefore, what he wrote was wrong. Did Josephus Flavius have eye witness accounts on King David? Or Saul? Or the Maccabees? Yet you have no problem with these parts of his work. Thanks for confirming your bias once more.

The site you put up there never mentioned anything about disputing THE EXISTENCE of Jesus Christ. The issue raised in that site which by the way is only one person’s answer on a Q&A is on whether Jews can believe in Jesus… NOT WHETHER HE EXISTED OR NOT

Guy, don’t disappoint me. Show us evidence of all Jewish historians and scholars unanimously denying THE EXISTENCE of Jesus Christ.

Cc NNTR, MaxinDHouse, Budaatum

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Christianity Etc › Re: *************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 5:14am On Jun 25, 2022

You are being deceitful. I did not say everything Josephus Flavius wrote about the Jews are fake. I should be the one asking this: "Is this a joke, or is it cognitive dissonance kicking in" not you"

The link you posted is not not an authentic Jewish website, it is a pro-chritian website. This is what is said on a Jewish authentic website: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/160992/jewish/Can-a-Jew-believe-in-Jesus.htm"Missionising is not a new phenomenon. Certain Christian sects believe that their messiah will only return when the Jews accept him. Throughout history Jews have been threatened with death, torture and expulsion if they don't convert. More recently, missionaries targeted the weak of our community - the elderly, new immigrants, and the underprivileged - in an attempt to exploit their vulnerability. All these attempts have had little or no success. Whether religious or not, Jews are reluctant to give up their Jewishness.So they came up with a new ploy. Rather than demand conversion, they offered Jews to remain Jewish, and even "complete" their Jewishness by accepting Jesus. Thus Jews for Jesus was born.This is a movement of non-Jews who pose as Jews by taking on Jewish names. They do usually have a token Jewish member, who is invariably either ignorant of Judaism at best or psychologically imbalanced at worst. They are a sham."

Josephus Flavius was a traitor to the Jews as he was more concerned about saving his own life so he was an easy tool to be used by the Roman Empire to write about Jesus Christ.
Christ is not a Jewish word and historians have agreed that Josephus Flavius being a Jew from a priestly family would have explained what
Christ is as Christ is not a Jewish word. So the truth is that you are the one who is not intelligent.

Josephus Flavius' writing on Jesus Christ is fake and was influenced by the Roman empire who captured and asked him to write a history on the Jews.

Josephus Flavius was not born during the supposed time of Jesus Christ so his account is 100% not authentic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QqGRjpGbuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQzZPGBMmVc

OkCornel:
Wake up and smell the coffee...

Josephus Flavius historic account of the Jews is fake by whose judgment? I thought you would have provided evidence of unanimous disapproval of Josephus' work by all Jewish historians and scholars by now

Oh...so the persecution of Christians by Emperor Nero for the great fire at Rome and the execution of Peter and Paul are tales?

Is this a joke, or is it cognitive dissonance kicking in

Reply when you have evidence of every Jewish historian and scholar unanimously disputing the works of Josephus and the existence of Jesus Christ.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/what-do-jews-believe-about-jesus/

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