HarshBitterTrut: This is all post Qaddaffi and from what I researched many crooked Africans from Nigeria to Ghanna were tricking poor Blacks into thinking they would receive service jobs in Middle East countries. Yet they had to travel through Lybia for transport in effect landing them right into the hands of Jahadist enslavers.
And I can retrieve those articles if you like to finally see the truth.
These are natives of Libya during the rule of Gaddafi
HarshBitterTrut: Muammar Gaddafi was a better human being than Obama and many of African leaders who get rich from oil money and starve their people. Muammar Gaddafi shared the oil profits with his people, he offered free education and healthcare to all Lybians including immigrants from Sub Sahara Aftican nations where so generosity is unheard of.
Watch video of the black population in southern Libya to find out if Gaddafi cared about them
I've been chatting with someone whose senses have been blurred by an ancient New Testament book written to blur your mind over 2000 years later as you are not ready to learn about official Roman history and their occupation of Israel during the time of the supposed New Testament story.
MaxInDHouse: Who do you think you're chatting with?
My friend i have traveled to so many places and seen so many things, in fact the things i have heard and seen could have made me forget about Jesus of Nazareth but the truth is all these videos aren't providing a better view of God rather they're making God more and more complicated. Most of these things are the handiwork of atheists who just want to discredit God. So a real intellectual will carefully consider the motive behind any argument and the benefit thereof. There are more as in much more benefits in believing that Jesus is real than all the things those atheists are using to blur your senses. In fact with our argument on this thread even a hard hearted Jew would have accepted Jesus as his Lord with all the evidences and realities i've presented to you! Act 26:28
Know today that it's just one STORY against another STORY. Those saying Jesus never existed on one side while those claiming Jesus is real on the other side. It's left to you to choose which is working out BENEFITS not just STORIES that's of no practical benefit to anyone! Thanks for your time!
You are the one that tries to deviate away from the topic with deceitful questions, while I'm the one that puts you back on track by showing you the relevant verses to counter your deceitful questions.
It was the Roman Empire that took the Old Testament scrolls out of Jerusalem in 70 AD after they destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in Jerusalem, this was how the Old Testament got to the rest of the world outside of the Greek nations who already had it translated to Greek when they ruled Israel before the Roman empire took over that region. The Romans did not find any New Testament Scrolls in Jerusalem in 70 AD and this was 37 years after Jesus Christ had completed His ministry.
Paul was not there when Jesus Christ spoke in Matthew 28:18-20. Paul was not a disciple of Jesus. Jesus never mentioned about Paul that he will be the one to take the gospel to the gentiles. But Paul was the one that took the gospel to the gentiles. No where did it mention in the New Testament that in the New Testament that any of the disciples travelled outside of Jerusalem to preach to gentiles so you are wrong.The Asia you mentioned is Asia Minor (modern-day Turkey), the Asia I was referring to was like India, China and the other Asian nations. Ethiopia already had the Torah since the time of Solomon.
Also there are good reasons available that shows that Paul was not a Pharisee or a Jew.
Whenever you have data, you will learn the proper history of how the Old Testament was taken to Rome and how it was used to write the New Testament to control the minds of people remotely and it is still working today over 2000 years later.
MaxInDHouse: You're just bitting about the bush my friend!
If we have to pick it one by one from the topic of your post it's first about Jesus of Nazareth and Mosaic laws. I made it clear to you that without Jesus of Nazareth there's nothing like Mosaic laws in any part of the world today because there's no time the God of Israel assigned any prophet to go out of Israel to preach or teach what is written in the Mosaic laws. Then you switch over to what was recorded about Jesus of Nazareth saying he only came for the Jews (even though you claimed he never existed but was a creation of the Roman empire) then i quoted where Jesus specifically ordered his followers to go and preach to other nations. Now you want to argue again about where the Christians preached to other nations including Africans shey? Oya let's go! Philip preached Jesus to an Ethiopian eunuch {Act 8:27-39} Peter started behaving funny in the assembly of Christians who are none JWs {Galatians 2:11-14} Paul travelled to different nations and that's why he could write letters to Christians in all those places like Rome, Corinth, Ephesus, Philippi, Colossae, Thessalonica and many Asian countries! Revelations 1:4 So the Christians did preached and taught people in major cities around the Mediterranean sea including African countries like Ethiopia and Libya all heard about Jesus of Nazareth because the Christians were ordered by Jesus of Nazareth to go and preach to them! Act 2:10
MaxInDHouse: Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things!
You can read this in any version of your choice!
Now from Matthew to Revelation name all the nations the disciples visited to preach to the gentiles And don't forget to include nations in Africa and Asia.
MaxInDHouse: You're quoting out of context in frustration!
A woman asked for MIRACLES not TEACHING! Matthew 15:22-23
I thought you're more intelligent than this nah!
If you are intelligent one bit you would know that Jesus did not come for gentiles as He has clearly instructed His disciples in Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans".
And there was no where Jesus mentioned that someone else will be sent to gentiles, so stop making up your own story.
He answered, “I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel.” Matthew 15:24
Check the word ONLY.
You are the one turning into a sadist or lunatic since you have been programmed like a robot to beleive the fake gospels and you just can't accept it when I show you have been programmed.
MaxInDHouse: Guy don't let the hatred you have for Jesus of Nazareth turn you into a sadist or lunatic. Jesus actually said he came to establish pure worship among Jews who will in turn take it to other nations. Why? Because the Jews must be the first set of Messiah's Kingdom in Jerusalem {Isaiah 2:3} and they should be the one to take the truth to other nations. That's why Jesus said: “Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter any Sa·marʹi·tan city; but instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 10:5-6 He wants the Jews who kept all the books of the prophets for centuries {John 4:22} to be the first beneficiaries of God's Kingdom!
But regarding his TEACHINGS Jesus Christ of Nazareth wants it to be taken to all the nations under the heavens! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8
So stop all this nightmare because only Jesus of Nazareth connected his disciples who are Jews with other people that's why they were preaching zealously and industriously teaching throughout the cities around Mediterranean Sea, part of Africa and Asia. Nobody asked Jews to connect you so your hatred for Jesus of Nazareth makes no sense!
I say leave Jesus matter for now and let's focus on your Judaism case, so answer this question:
The Torah forbids Israelites to worship anything or image but today in Jerusalem where the temple of Jews is built, there exists a central mosque. So do you still think those Jews are practicing exactly what the Torah says or they're mixing things together?
Leave Jesus matter for now and try to be consistent with your Judaism!
You are the one trying to derail this thread. The thread is about Jesus and the Mosaic Law. The Mosaic Law is open to anyone who wishes to practice it but your FAKE Messiah has stated that His teachings are not for you gentiles but yet you feel you are more Jesus than Jesus Christ Himself.
MaxInDHouse: Ọ̀gbẹ́ni you're only holding up to straws poised to exchange insults over your delusion!
I asked you a simple question and instead of you to address it properly you dodge it only to start all over with this your agitation about Jesus of Nazareth.
OK calm down and address the issue: According to the Torah Israelites must not make image of ANYTHING neither bow to it. But today in the central Jewish city (Jerusalem) where the temple of their God is built is a Central mosque where JEWS are constantly bowing towards the black stone in far away mecca. Yet you're here arguing profusely that Judaism is keeping the Torah! Óyá address that anyhow you choose to explain it i'm all ears!
There is nowhere in the Torah where they are told to worship a stone. Jesus believers too go to Israel to kiss stones they are told that is the birthplace of Jesus, did Jesus ask his follower to even visit his birth place. And also there is nowhere in the Torah where your FAKE Jesus Christ is mentioned that He will come back the second time to fight the battle He could not fight the first time He came and could not save His own people from the Roman Kingdom. This shows your delusion as a programmed robot that cannot even research on youtube to know that he is being controlled by people of ancient time more than 2000 years later.
MaxInDHouse: Yet Islam (bowing towards the stone in mecca) is practiced in Israel, shey? Why do you choose to continue deceiving yourself? According to the Torah no other form of worship should be allowed among God's people so where do you keep that in the Torah?
You are the one deceiving yourself by following a FAKE character created by the Roman empire.
Why did the Romans destroy Judea and Jerusalem? It was because the Jews will not bow down and worship the Roman gods as the Jews kept to their belief in GOD only. Jesus Christ was just a character created by the Romans to control you today like a programmed robot, if not you would have known that the resurrection and the second coming are FAKE.
MaxInDHouse: I only chose the type of FAITH that's yielding positive results throughout the world, Judaism only exists in the minds of Jews with nothing to show for it but true CHRISTIANITY (JWs) have successfully achieved what was written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:3-4
So i'm 100% convinced that the true God has condemned the Jews, their temple and worship, therefore present a proof that God is behind Judaism if you think God is still in support of the religion!
This is one proof: God has restored the nation of Israel after about 2000 years and the majority are Jew practicing Judasiam and waiting for the TRUE MESSIAH to come and restore all things.
MaxInDHouse: All these are more or less natural laws my guy. Today the west has signed gay and lesbian into law, is that not just what they feel is OK with the majority?
If conversion is by choice then each person will choose wherever he/she got help or see what is strange just like Rahab and others.
The Torah Laws are still 100% better than the FAKE man made commands of the FAKE New Testament like believing a FAKE resurrection and a FAKE second coming like a programmed robot.
You are the one that is a robot programmed by someone. If not you would know that the New Testament was written by the Romans after they conquered Israel and at that time there were no internet or camera phones, anything the king says is final. The truth is that the FAKE New Testament you have been programmed to believe has nothing to do with the Old Testament.
Conversion to Judaism is by choice and throughout history there have been converts to Judaism. Examples are: Batya the daughter of Pharaoh, Jethro Moses’ father-in-law, Rahab, Obadiah the Prophet and many more.
MaxInDHouse: You just dey fall my hand like brainwashed or robot programmed by someone to speak against Jesus of Nazareth no logical reasoning in your arguments.
The book of the Hebrews from Genesis to Malachi never assigned a single prophet to go outside Israel and convert other nations for their God. So if not Jesus of Nazareth then i've got no business with the Jews or their God!
MaxInDHouse: Please remind me according to the scriptures from Genesis to Malachi the name of that Jewish prophet their God assigned to come and ask me to practice Judaism?
Conversion to Judaism is by choice and throughout history there have been converts to Judaism. Examples are: Batya the daughter of Pharaoh, Jethro Moses’ father-in-law, Rahab, Obadiah the Prophet and many more.
Because: The New Testament is a SCAM. Jesus, the resurrection and second coming are a BIG SCAM.
Tylerboy15011: I used to go to church until I find out certain truth and I realized most church are scam
Why is Christians not united yet we claim we are serving one God.
Why do we have different bible and doctrine and teachings if you go to different churches yet we say we are christians.
Take a look at the Muslim generally, they can worship in any mosque they find thierselve yet without condemning other mosques
Muslim have one voice but christians do not yet we say we serve one God. Muslim have one Quran everywere you go but christians has different bible and interpretation. Why is it so? Who is more united? More organized?
Take a look at what happened to the late Deborah killed in sokoto, has all the leaders of christainity regardless of the churches you go in Nigeria agreed and take a stand on it? The answer is No.
From this day henceforth, I seize to go to church, I will pray in my own house then focus on my Life since Christianity is really not the true religion. I rest my case with pain and anger.
MaxInDHouse: Whether Sun, Moon, Tree or Stone God they're able to achieve the VISIBLE RESULTS promised by the God of the Bible. So until you and your Jewish people are able to do the same!
Better to practice Jewdasiam because the New Testament was created by the Romans to control the minds of people remotely. The Jews are the greatest scientist in the world today because God has given them that knowledge. If Nigerian christains starts practicing Judasiam the country will be a better place.
Be sorry for yourself as being an ordained minister in the organization has made you not to bother that you're not following the true messiah but one created by the Romans to worship their Sun God.
You are outside the organization while i am an ordained minister in the organization and all you could say is what enemies of God's people are carrying about against God's organization!
Are you a Jew? Do you presently worship with Jews? Do you know what is secretly going on among the Jews?
My friend, nobody can see anything inside a box but everyone can see what the box reflects on the outside.
So until you and your Jewish people fulfil what is recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4
I stand with Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only organization fulfilling what is promised in God's word today!
You are the one who is very daft. The documentary is not just about the origin but also what's going on in your organisation. Just believing what you are told without doing your own research is what makes you very daft.
MaxInDHouse: Origin of people who were making research to find out the truth about God or the end result of their research? Ọmọ you daft small o!
Who cares about the thousands of mistakes they made in the past? Didn't the Jews you're so passionate about made thousands of errors against their God?
I'm asking you for the end result of your so called research not how you go through it, whether you were a stone, tree or moon worshiper before you finally discover the truth what really matters now is the END RESULT!
If you have data to watch a documentary into the origin of the organisation you are so passionate about you will be shocked at what is going on in it that you have no clue about:
MaxInDHouse: Lol, so you're a true researcher in your own eyes shey?
No wahala, keep making your research but don't forget that it's the result that will justify who knows the truth not how much stories, sociology or psychology you study in books! James 2:26
You lack knowledge of the Jewish Torah as you are not opportuned to have unlimited fast internet connection 24/7 to watch hours of youtube documentaries on Judaism, Israel, Greek, Roman and western civilisation, so the truth is that you should humble yourself and learn from me. All you know is the New Testament religion forced down the throat of your forefathers after they were conquered by the Europeans to control their minds and it's also controlling your mind today that's why you cannot research with the latest technology to know the true God in the Old Testament and the expected Messiah and not the FAKE pagan messiah that wants you to drink his blood and eat his flesh.
MaxInDHouse: Elijah's assignment is just to prepare the people's minds towards the arrival of the Messiah {Mala 3:1; 4:5} of course Israelites including Jesus' disciples questioned him over Elijah's presence {Matt 17:10} Jesus opened their minds that John the baptist has played that part! Matt 17:11-13
Now this is where WISDOM comes in: Jews were just two tribes with the Levites so what happens to the rest of the ten tribes of Israel? Well my friend according to further research "Jews" were later adopted as the only faithful nation serving the true God so when the scriptures mentioned Jews it simply means faithful people throughout the world that will be assembled to worship God shoulder to shoulder with one accord {Zephaniah 3:9} not natural JEWS {Romans 2:29} that's why you can't find Jews coming together to agree on how they should apply the Torah!
How do you think he could establish peace without the cooperation of those who will benefit from the provision? So the Messiah must first establish a campaign which will help gather peace loving people under one umbrella {Isaiah 2:2-4} before destroying those who refuses to embrace his peace campaign! Daniel 2:44 compare to Luke 19:27
The Messiah is God's representative so according to Malachi 3:1 when the Messiah comes it will be like God Himself passing through Israel. Matt 3:11 So Elijah is supposed to prepare the arrival not to work with him! Mala 4:5
There you go my friend, no elected politician elected can rule with iron rod {Psalms 2:9; 110:2} meaning his government can't be democratic which is man's choice but divine which has nothing to do with imperfect man's wishes!
Jews simply connotes faithful people throughout the earth and the eternal temple means pure worship which was intended to fulfill what was written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3
Which reads:
In the last days the mountain of the LORD’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.
This will not be achieved by a military force but God will send His Holy Spirit {Joel 2:28} to establish it {Zecha 4:6} right in the middle of global confusion when faithless people are starving for spiritual guidance {Amos 8:11} so that honest hearted individuals can see that the true God is WORKING with His people JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Matt 5:14-16
MaxInDHouse: The world today is fast approaching the endtime. Before now even African traditions have laws related to the Torah because people generally know that hurting their fellowman is evil and that's what 90% of the Torah is built upon! Mark 12:31 So don't think they're all copying what the Torah says but they're just using human thinking to set standards on right and wrong!
There are lots of rival groups among the Jews right from the first century until now, each is only interested in power so they're diplomatic about what they teach in order to gain the support of their fellow Jews, whereas Jesus' teachings gave no room for selfish cravings so majority even in his time disagreed with him!
The Messiah will teach in parables {Isaiah 6:10; Jeremiah 5:21; Ezekiel 12:2} so his usage of things the Jews aren't used to is a proof that they need to calm down in order to understand his teachings otherwise they will loose out and that's exactly what happened to that nation! Daniel 12:10
The Christian Greek Scriptures (New Testament) is the only source of divine guide towards the fulfilment of God's Kingdom on planet earth. The Jews condemned Jesus of Nazareth as their Messiah and the true God has condemned that nation. Watch and see if anything worthwhile can ever come out of that nation again as long as they rejected Jesus of Nazareth the one and only authentic Messiah sent by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Meanwhile Jehovah's Witnesses are doing well in preparing the minds of people globally in minions and everyone can see the fulfilment of what is recorded in the Bible book Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3
Let's see how Jews can achieve something close to that without Jesus of Nazareth! [/
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=113426072]Elijah's assignment is just to prepare the people's minds towards the arrival of the Messiah {Mala 3:1; 4:5} of course Israelites including Jesus' disciples questioned him over Elijah's presence {Matt 17:10} Jesus opened their minds that John the baptist has played that part! Matt 17:11-13
Now this is where WISDOM comes in: Jews were just two tribes with the Levites so what happens to the rest of the ten tribes of Israel? Well my friend according to further research "Jews" were later adopted as the only faithful nation serving the true God so when the scriptures mentioned Jews it simply means faithful people throughout the world that will be assembled to worship God shoulder to shoulder with one accord {Zephaniah 3:9} not natural JEWS {Romans 2:29} that's why you can't find Jews coming together to agree on how they should apply the Torah!
How do you think he could establish peace without the cooperation of those who will benefit from the provision? So the Messiah must first establish a campaign which will help gather peace loving people under one umbrella {Isaiah 2:2-4} before destroying those who refuses to embrace his peace campaign! Daniel 2:44 compare to Luke 19:27
The Messiah is God's representative so according to Malachi 3:1 when the Messiah comes it will be like God Himself passing through Israel. Matt 3:11 So Elijah is supposed to prepare the arrival not to work with him! Mala 4:5
There you go my friend, no elected politician elected can rule with iron rod {Psalms 2:9; 110:2} meaning his government can't be democratic which is man's choice but divine which has nothing to do with imperfect man's wishes!
Jews simply connotes faithful people throughout the earth and the eternal temple means pure worship which was intended to fulfill what was written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and repeated at Micah 4:1-3
Which reads:
In the last days the mountain of the LORD’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.
This will not be achieved by a military force but God will send His Holy Spirit {Joel 2:28} to establish it {Zecha 4:6} right in the middle of global confusion when faithless people are starving for spiritual guidance {Amos 8:11} so that honest hearted individuals can see that the true God is WORKING with His people JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Matt 5:14-16
Western civilisation and their laws are based on some of the Mosaic Law. Even the state of Israel today is not based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and only 2% of the population are christians.
If you have data to watch Jewish Rabbis on youtube you will know the Jews have a proper understanding of their Torah and that the New Testament is just based on Greek and Roman philosophy. Drinking the blood and eating the flesh of Jesus Christ are pagan practice of Greek, Roman and other kingdoms outside of Judasiam.
Only the 613 Mosaic Laws https://www.jmu.edu/dukehallgallery/exhibitions-past-2018-2019/the-613-mitzvot.shtml are practicable in the world and some of the this is what is practiced by most countries in the world today. The New Testament is just a corruption of the Hebrew Scriptures by Greek and Roman philosophers to control gullible people and it has nothing to do with the coming Messiah in the Torah.
MaxInDHouse: The law you quoted only applies to the Israelites and whoever wants to join them in worshiping their God but when the Messiah comes that law does not bound on him because he will be sent to TEACH them something totally different from the Torah {Deut 18:18-19} so the Torah is valid until the arrival of the Messiah afterwards it's the Messiah's teachings they're to embrace over the Torah. Note that the Torah came after the death of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph. So it's purpose wasn't for global use rather it was meant to guide the Israelites until Messiah arrives, that's why Samaritans never agreed with Jews because the believe that when the Messiah (Christ) comes he will explain what the Torah is all about to them! John 4:25
God has commanded: Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations. (Deuteronomy 13:1) Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part. (Deuteronomy 13:1)
So to show you are wrong, God won't punish the Israelites like you quoted from the Old Testament for not keeping the Mosaic Law and then send a Pharisee from Tarsus to teach the Jews and Gentiles that righteousness no longer comes through the Mosaic Law but through Jesus Christ who is not the Messiah mentioned in the Old Testament that is to come and do the following three things, in this order. After that Elijah returns.
Bring all Jews to Israel as it is said “and I shall gather my people unto me. During his lofetime there were very large Jewish comunities living in Babylon, Medina (Arabia), Egypt, Syria, and Ethiopia. The Jews were further dispersed after Jesus lifetime therefore this was made worse after he died.
Establish world peace as prophesized by the Lamb and Wolf lying together. During his lifetime Judea was involved in a civil war between many different factions. Around the world there were many wars being fought by Rome, Persia etc. The Jews were involved in a war with Rome after his lifetime. Therefore this situation was made worse in the years following his lifetime.
Build/Inaguarate the Eternal Temple as proohesized in Ezekiel. The second Temple was still standing im his lifetime. The Temple fell after his death.
Furthermore Malachi states that Elijah is supposed to return before the coming of The Messiah. This is called the great day of The Lord. The Messiah is not God, but he together with Elijah heralds the final judgement. Did not happen. Elijah did not return to bring parents close to their children.
Jesus did not do even the first thing. In fact the closest person who has come closest to doing what The Messiah needs to do in the history of the world is President Chaim Azriel Weitzman of Israel. He was most certainly not The Messiah, but he did more to fulfill the first requirement than anyone else. Even so he did not meet the first requirement fully. No one has yet. There are Jews outside of Israel, and there have been Jews living outside of Israel since the First Kingdom of Shaul was founded. There has been a perpetual state of war since Babylon and Egypt were founded. (All of recorded human history). The Eternal Temple as prophesized in Ezekiel has not been built. https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-prove-that-Jesus-is-not-the-messiah
MaxInDHouse: According to what was written in the laws God gave them through Moses the Israelites will be scattered never to return if they abandon the covenant God made with them:
"And I will scatter you among the nations, and I will unsheathe a sword after you; and your land will be made desolate, and your cities will be devastated". Leviticus 26:33
MaxInDHouse: YES! Because the Messiah (Christ) had no direct business with people of other nations, rather it's the descendants of Israel (Jacob) that were supposed to take the good news of God's Kingdom to other nations after the Messiah has taught them. Note that even among the Israelites Jesus still separated the Jews as special because they're the ones still keeping the scrolls of all the prophets while the Samaritans only knew and acknowledged few books, that's why he first excluded Samaritans from his ministry! John 4:22
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