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I have been asking for a while now:
all the violent islamic countries where blood are shed daily,where innocent souls are slaughtered daily,are they not muslims too?.
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Personally i believe that violence in islam will never cease,muslims will continue to kill themselves,they will continue to kill non-muslims,the killings will never stop;it is a seed that have been sown and it is really germinating fast...
Islam was founded by violence,spread by violence and sustain by violence,no message in islam,what do they want to preach to people,what do they want to tell people...the only way to preach is by violence.
I see an eruption in the west very soon,an eruption in America very soon and d moderate muslims will be quite as usual,since all muslims wants to see sharia established in every nation of the world...this eruptions will be caused by muslims when the time is set,when their population rises above normal!

Juell: Try go for a church service and listen to what pastors say about "dressing modestly" then u'll know those girls are not just ready to listen. And moreover Christianity is of the heart, going to church or bearing a Christian name doesn't make one a Christian. I saw something 2day, I went to site 2day. While I was sitting watching what was going on there, behold a Muslim woman came out the security man's room, (she's not his wife O!) put on her hiljab and walked away. Bros wearing hiljab does not mean a woman is clean spiritually.

I dnt knw why christainity got to do with d article...
I always tell my Muslim friends too that the clothes u wear does not determine d real u,u can wear a cloth covering ur whole body n still b a devil. the state of the heart matters alot. d clothes cover ur body but not ur heart. the cloth u wear cannot stop u from being promiscuous if u want to...
I lived in ilorin for three years n I can begin to tell u what some hijab -wearing were doing despite being covered from head to toe!

samguru: thanks man,when you said documents,do u mean certificate, transcripts etc



exactly !

pls post ur email address here, place iwant to send u a mail. pls dnt send me a pm cus I cnt assess my mail via NL.
thanks

damerry: @ op. What if a man marries a promiscuous woman and have godly sex with her ( after marriage ) would he contact part of the demons the woman had acquired before he got married to her?

The woman must v given her life to Jesus, confess n forsake her past life. she should also break d ties she had with her past life. n sanctified m washed by d blood then she is good to go.
I v seen a prostitute changed n give her life to Jesus, today she is married to a pastor with her own ministry.

good morning everybody, how was our night?
have a wonderful day ahead.

striktlymi: I believe I already addressed that question with the relevant scriptural backing. Jesus talked about demonstrating love for God by keeping his commandments while Paul confirmed to us that the Gentiles can keep the commandments without knowing God.

the way i see the above,i dnt think it is true...Paul never said anything like that...gentiles can keep the commandment without knowing God? Is that possible? Whose commandments are they keeping? Satan? You are keeping God's commandments without knowing Him?
John 5:39-41.
You really need to study the book of John.

I have also addressed the above before. Only Jesus saves...everyone before, during or after Jesus MUST go through him to the Father[b] but not everyone MUST believe in him to get to him. [/b]

the above is somehow...even d above contradicts John 3:16.
If we dnt need to believe in Jesus to get to him,why did he now come?
How is this possible,you dnt believe in Jesus,yet you want to come to him? Is that even possible?
What then is the purpose of Jesus' coming to the world if being good can take me to heaven.John 5:39-41.
Let me ask,why did Jesus come? What did he come to do?

macof: and u need more understanding and wisdom

You are the one that needs that,i already find that in Jesus.

Alfa Seltzer: You are right. Satan doesn't exist. We are just playing around. Don't let those pastors deceive you.
By the way, why are you still going to church? You know their talk is full of bullshit, yet you still go?

lool,just as satan,living a life of lies and double-standard.
You guys need Jesus.

quivah: mintayo and atheistic pride...you funny brah! The proud person here is god.

Tony runo, i'd advice you chill and hold onto your belief cause i'on see where this is going...

I think you u r right,its no points answering a question when you already have d answer in mind,no?
Btw,how are you doing?

Ayatullah: You are definitely one of the 99% that will not want Jesus to come back and you know it so well, so what are you talking about?

lol,though not funny. I am actually looking forward to His second coming.
But i dnt actually expect you to understand!

Alfa Seltzer: Maybe you should try and read your bible.
1 Chronicles 21:1
Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.
Job 1:6
One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.
Job 1:7[/b
The Lord said to [b]Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Job 1:8Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”
Job 1:9[/b “Does Job fear God for nothing?” [b]Satan replied.Job 1:12[/b[i]The Lord said to [b]Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.” Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.[/i]
Job 2:1 On another day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them to present himself before him.

Job 2:2
And the Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

Job 2:3
Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”

Job 2:4
“Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life.

Job 2:6
The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.”

Job 2:7
So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head.

Zechariah 3:1
Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him.

Zechariah 3:2
The Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?”

Matthew 4:10
Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”

Matthew 12:26
If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

Mark 1:13
and he was in the wilderness forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and angels attended him.

Mark 3:23
So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan?

Mark 3:26
And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come.

Mark 4:15
Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them.

Mark 8:33
But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. “Get behind me, Satan!” he said. “You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

Luke 10:18
He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Luke 11:18
If Satan is divided against himself, how can his kingdom stand? I say this because you claim that I drive out demons by Beelzebul.

Luke 13:16
Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?”

Luke 22:3
Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve.

Luke 22:31
“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat.

John 13:27
As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. So Jesus told him, “What you are about to do, do quickly.”

Acts 5:3
Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?[b]Acts 26:18

looool,@Op,i warned you...looool.

joseph1832: - Sheikh Yaser Birjas

In Islam we are told to support our brothers in right and wrong.

Illuminating!

illuminating indeed,very illuminating!

macof: really? But did he put a gun to their heads and force them? it was their own doing abeg leave serpent alone. That's why Christians have demonised snakes

why cnt they use 'their own doing' and obey God instead,huh?
And when did christains demonize snakes?

idnoble135: Like it has been said OP, you need to consult Alfa and his likes on NL to convince you of the existence of Satan. They are best suitable for the task.

honestly.

macof: am yet to undertand where and when the devil brought sin to the world. cain killed abel because God was partial against cain by accepting only abel's sacrifice. God At fault.
Adam and eve eat of the fruit because the serpent told eve the truth. so is telling the truth a sin? and shey serpent na devil? Devil as u know it doesnt exist.

ur last statement is not true,satan,d serpent made adam and eve to disobey God.

Lolz,i think your question shld be forwarded to alfa althez and judas, and advocate666,they wil tell you he exists and he is their master!

Source!

Playing the blame game again? Smh.

Aifey: US n saudi arabia are behind all d terrorism u see since after 9'11. M23 a terrorist organistion has a cooperat office in washinton. Taliban just opened on oFfice in Quata.
For US n its allies, its a big bussiness.
We jst discoverd oil in kenya.
Nw they will pay wit their blood.

deols: Have you apologised for 'Nigerians being 419ners?'

have you apologised for the MEND

and kidnappers

and bank robbers

and

polithifcians?


dont you think you should take responsibility and apologise for the actions of these NIGERIANS?


some of you will have to admit that your IQs are LOW.

i cant believe i am reading this,as in seriously? So you are actually making excuses for those ANIMALs who slaughtered innocent souls indiscriminately?
D fact that we v mend,does that justify the killings of ppl having fun in a mall?
Does that justify the fact that BH r slaughtering ppl in Nigeria?
It is a pity and you are talking like this as a woman,did u watch any of those live videos at all?
May allah forgive you o.
#what i see you people doin is that u guys are defending ur religion,and in doing that u dnt see anything bad in what those guys did,if u all continue to defend ur religion then d killings and slaughtering will not stop,for crying out loud,you dnt v to defend d truth,if what u believe is a LIE,dt is when u will start defending it by forcing ppl to blieve it violently!
I cnt believe some ppl still like tht ur post...spits!
# u guys are really showing us that it doesnt matter who get killed as long as we v dem converted?

Those ppl are actuall cowards,if u have anything against d kenyan govt,why not invite them, the miltary to open field and the two of u shld fight it out,instead of facing defenseless citizen,it shows that they are cowards!
But am not surprised since they have allahu akbar in their mouths.

achi4u: I'm really tired.

How can you shoot ur fellow defensiless human at a close range.


...and person want to b called mosulem.

teeo: Which peace does it preach The mallams that preach in the mosques close to my house definitely don't preach peace when they say the bible is fake and speak against paul.

same with me too,
everything they say is totally to discredit the bible and Jesus,no love in most of their messages,even in their prayers:
"allah beget and non bege him"-who is d above prayers refering to?
May God ave mercy.

lorretta u: Ok it's clear their actions are againgst muslim tenets
But What I want to understand is this.
in all the nations where there is islamic presence why is there always bloodshed?

Now I won't lie that I've not met peaceful muslims before.infact I'm friends with one for now
But these things keep happening and what we hear is that they aren't true muslims.

But they are muslims after all aren't they?
Now if there are muslim religious leaders on NL

I have a question for you guys.seeing as religious killings are being carried out in almost all muslim countries by the so called muslim exTremists,what have you guys done to stop this?asides from coming out after the attacks to condemn(when u do)

Have you people set up bodies throughout your religious domains to try and teach your youth tolerance for other religions?

do u make it a point of every religious gathering to preach to your youngsters peace and love for other people?
It starts from the home.now what do you teach your kids? Sometime we preach hate without knowing it.words like 'infidel' used to describe people of other religions only gives the kids an impression that it's ok to despise other people.

Do you teach them that it's ok to make friends(real friends) from other religions? Maybe even marry them?(I know they won't let this one happen)
As long as we keep up with these little segregations, it should come as no surprise when things like these happen.because they are the fruits of the tree of religious segregation.

If what they are doing is truely against muslim teachings,stand up and fight for your religion!

Show it.prove to the world that it isn't what you stand for.

these are what they usually say whenever any terrorist attack occur:
1. The west should be blamed.
2. It is political not religion.
3. THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS.
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Sometimes when i see no 3,i ask who then are muslims? If trully d bombings,killings, slaughtering done in islamic countries and all over the world are not done by muslims,then d claim that ' islam is d fastest growing religion' is a lie.
This article like that of the Op is what we will continue to see whenever such terrorist ttack occur,instead of them to find a way out, a parmanent solution,they l continue to ram abt in circle,and inside of them they are happy!

#pls note,anything that is found on violence,has a foundation on violence will and must be sustain by violence!
May God help us.

Ishilove: But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. -1 Cor 2:14

on point,so many 'blind' people!

tony_runo: Does it not bother you that some one who has actually seen the future or knows what will happen still acts surprised or pissed off? U agree then that God already saw it happen....so why the anger like he had no idea Uzzah could do such a thing? Or was he expecting Uzzah to act differently? Perhaps he should have just gone on to create humans like robots then, if he really cant bear the thought of anyone disobeying him. At least no one would have to burn in hell....I'm actually thinking bro. I employ you to do same.

another sincere answer he gave u up there!
Good that u r actually thinking.
If God had interfare,u ppl wld v screamed again,why did he do that.
The people of OT lived by Law,you know what you must do and what u must not do and more importantly you know the consequence of whatever u do.
God has given us the ability to choose,make the right choice and u r good,make d wrong choice and u pay for it,ppl shld nt blame God for the wrong choices they make.
It is just like a man who went ahead to rob a bank(and he knows that that is wrong),yet he chose to do it,then he better not be caught cus he is going to pay for it,now shld God help him with d robbery? Or help him get caught?,since He knws d future?
Whatever decision u make today,there is a result and consequence,that is why we must all choose Jesus.
Shalom.

tony_runo: So you are saying God striking Uzzah down without warning in that scenario is morally right and fair, even though Uzzah apparently had no ill intentions? you seriously dont find anything wrong with any of that? Even David was displeased, but I guess out of fear he couldnt really get angry at God....well, I rest my case. But deep down, something tells me, that anyone including you haibe wont find such an action unfair. Its funny however, if you were to read a similar story any where else but the bible, you would probably be infuriated and call for justice. I rest my case.

you know He actually gave u a sincere answer but you just decide to ignore it.
You actually want him to tell you what you wanted to hear,this is what weary me abt u athiest.
God is God and He is just,u want God to reason like human,but no,that is why He is God,it is pride that makes people to become athiest,PRIDE,it is not abt asking questions but PRIDE,not wanting to humble one-self.
I pray God will help you.

Ayatullah: The Plain truth is that 99% of Christians do not even want Jesus to come. This is quite evident in the opulence Christian leaders are living. Can you sincerely tell me the CAN President, Oritsejafor or Bishop Oyedepo of Winners Chapel who are neck deep in worldliness are the type expecting Jesus to come? Same goes with their followers who have imbibed their teachings.

guy,1st you are muslim,so what you are saying make no sense,as a muslim u dnt have the right to talk abt CAN president and even Oyedepo (even if they are wrong) like that,you dnt have a say in everything that has to do with christainity,ok?!
And who told u christains dnt want Jesus to come back?

Good morning everyone.
How was the night?

tjpoet: Allah says: And it is He Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy (rain). Till when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud, We drive it to a land that is dead, then We cause water (rain) to descend thereon. Then We produce every kind of fruit therewith. Similarly, We shall raise up the dead, so that you may remember or take heed.) (7:57)

Allah says:

(And We send the winds fertilizing (to fill heavily the clouds with water), then cause the water (rain) to descend from the sky, and We give it to you to drink, and it is not you who are the owners of its stores [i.e. to give water to whom you like or to withhold it from whom you like].) (15:22)

Modern science has affirmed the scientific points mentioned in this verse of the Quran. The winds carry water particles which are rich in salt up into the atmosphere; these particles which are called 'aerosols' function as water traps and form cloud drops by collecting around the water vapor themselves.

The clouds are formed from water vapor that condenses around the salt crystals or dust particles in the air. Because the water droplets in these clouds are very small (with a diameter between 0.01 and 0.02 mm), the clouds are suspended in the air, and spread across the sky.29 Thus, the sky is covered in clouds. The water particles that surround salt crystals and dust particles thicken and form raindrops, so drops that become heavier than the air leave the clouds and start to fall to the ground as rain. Allah says:

(See you not that Allah drives the clouds gently, then joins them together, then makes them into a heap of layers, and you see the rain comes forth from between them; and He sends down from the sky hail (like) mountains, (or there are in the heaven mountains of hail from where He sends down hail), and strikes therewith whom He wills, and averts it from whom He wills. The vivid flash of its (clouds) lightening nearly blinds the sight.) (24:43)

you need to be banned,you are derailing the thread,open another thread for this your islam and science!

Zarian5: It will make more sense if you bring your source where Allah said "all muslim will go to hell first now,then on the judgement day,he will bring out those whose good deeds surpasses d bad."
Bring your proof!

surah 19:71-72.
There is none of you that shall not go there(hell)-this is the judgement your Lord has proposed,then he shall save those who fear allah and we shall leave the evildoer in the fire on their knees.
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Surah 7:179.
Allah says-' many are the jinns and men we have made for hell'.
Many mankind will spend sometime on earth and then end up in hell,no?

The Bible is not quran,so don't play the 'until you understand arabic,u cnt understand d quran' with the Bible!
And it is you dnt understand my point;you ask for a direct statement of Jesus,i also ask for a direct statement of your allah calling mohammed d Holy Spirit promised by Jesus.
I can show you where Jesus was worshiped in the Bible,but this is not the thread for that.

Zarian5: To start with Jesus did not say ‘comforter’ because ‘comforter’ is English. And you know Jesus did not speak English. Did he? That is why when you check other English Bibles you will find that in place of comforter they use words like helper, advocate, councillor etc. But Jesus used none of this words! Now tell me the ORIGINAL word used by Jesus which your Bibles translates as comforter, advocate, councillor, helper etc before we proceed. And pls don't tell me 'Paraclete' because Jesus did not speak Greek also. Tell me the ACTUAL word he used in his own tongue, not the translated one into Greek or English.

you may come here to discuss that=https://www.nairaland.com/1400732/does-islam-condone-encourage-desecration/4

haibe: I don't know about mr president but I know most high and obadiah is just one person, obadiah uses most high, a second handle to complement his points.

You knw,i v observed that too,i have been watching very closely!
I just pity anyone who cannot sit with the Bible and ask God to open his/her eyes to His word instead of listening to heresy!

Jesus is Lord.(nothing anybody can do about that)!