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funmisticqueen:
thanks dear for answering with such profound wisdom. i salute you for making this stance in the face of naysayers who havent thought through this matter rationally, RESPECT.

in other words you cant add or subtract. see how tonguetied you are against even points raised against you by MissWrite. you cant even touch on them because you dont want the headache of dealing with her.
so the coward just gives a blanket of praises without any substance: "i salute you for your wisdom" blah blah blah

funmisticqueen:
yes, and if she wants that child, then she should bear the responsibility or raising that child alone but if the father later changes his mind later especially after the birth of the child, then he has no right because he refused to bear responsibility when he was supposed to.

dumb feminist mindset:
abortion: Its my body.
child support: its your baby

funmisticqueen:
i see your point, but no woman should be made to carry a pregnancy against her will, why would someone father a child without getting cosensus from the woman, did he rape her?

if there is a way to have men carry a pregnancy so that they can make decisions, then i am all ears.

go read up on Artificial Wombs. you busy acting up about pregnancy while scientists are busy making a way to make babies without you. just like Sex Dolls made you look stupid the artificial wombs will make you look extra dumb.
its called Ectogenesis. go read what scientists in Philadelphia did last year in 2017 with a sheep.
keep forming. you will be put aside. men always find solutions. we made this world what it is.

funmisticqueen:
i see your point, but no woman should be made to carry a pregnancy against her will, why would someone father a child without getting cosensus from the woman, did he rape her?

there are about a dozen contraception methods. some free. if you forced yourself to get off your lazy ass and take responsibility to prevent pregnancy no one will be forcing you to carry the pregnancy.
if you can carry the dick, you can carry the pregnancy

funmisticqueen:
it is like saying a fetus is a baby, they are two different things, a fetus merely has the potential to become a person, but it is not a person, i would like to explain further but i would be repeating myself, just backtrack to my previous comment on this post.

you are still yet to justify based on facts and not sentiments, why abortion is murder.

a fetus is a baby. wikipedia:

a fetus or foetus (/ˈfiːtəs/; plural fetuses or foetuses) is a prenatal human between the embryonic state and birth. The fetal stage of human development tends to be taken as beginning at the gestational age of eleven weeks, i.e. nine weeks after fertilization.In biological terms, however, prenatal development is a continuum, with no clear defining feature distinguishing an embryo from a fetus. A fetus is also characterized by the presence of all the major body organs, though they will not yet be fully developed and functional and some not yet situated in their final anatomical location.
is this facts enough for your murderous ways??

funmisticqueen:
Nothing, actually cos something similar has happened to me. kf they aborted me, then they must have had their reasons for doing so and someone else would have been the first lady, it is not necessary that it must be me. someone else would have cured cancer. The future has endless possiblities, wherever there is a vaccum, something will fill it.

look at you claim to have been aborted...
small-brain, having a reason to do something doesnt make doing it OK. depends on the reasons. you cant just shoot a person then tell the police "i had my reasons" take your reasons with them to jail.

funmisticqueen:
A fetus isn't considered a person . A fetus is incapable of possessing the same conscious capacity as a newborn anyway. And, whether or not it feels pain is irrelevant considering there are methods to prevent fetal pain, and some can be developed in order to accomplish that task also.
A fetus isn't a baby. It's two different stages. A fetus is a potential to become a baby, just as a baby is not a potential to become a baby because it is already one. Aborting a fetus is not murdering a person, or killing a person. It's aborting a potential to become one before it becomes a baby.
Calling it nonhuman is false. It's very much a human, but the question lies in when it becomes a human being, because it isn't an individual yet (it's an individual when it becomes a true separate entity. As long as it's in her womb, connected to her by an umbilical cord, surviving off her body, both her body and the fetus's acting as one, it is not an individual. It is part of her. simply put it is a parasite of the same species which is half foreign because half of the DNA is from its father)

yet you tell a guy "Im carrying your baby!".
i have never ever never heard a woman, even a feminist tell a man Im carrying your foetus .
its only a baby when it suits you. otherwise its demoted to a foetus! murderers.

funmisticqueen:
health is the state of complete physical, mental and social wellbeing not just be absence of illness or disease.
In lagos state only, the law states abortion is legal only when the pregnancy jeopardises the health of the mother which in this case is her physical, mental and social wellbeing. please refer to my previous posts to shed more light

but thats not enough for you bloodthirsty feminists. you just wanna abort for the fun of it. "oh i have a headache...abortion!" "my BF pissed me off...abortion.!" "my Twitter followers reduced in number...abortion!" "i have a toothache...abortion!"
you just want to see blood flow from your pvssy thats all. is menstruation bleeding not enough for you? animals.

funmisticqueen:
that is only because it is illegal and is done by quacks, hence unsafe abortion, when it is done by certified medical personnel in a standard environment the side effects are reduced to almost zero

you think arbotion in a hight tech clinic approved by the gvt enables women to dodge the emotional and physical after-effects of arbotion??
although the majority of women dont regret abortion the majority admit it has affected them emotionally. and once you abort you're likely to do so again.

im not surprised a black girl is here advocating for abortion because in the US black women abort 3 times more than white women . no wonder they are such emotional wrecks and are cursed more than any other race in america.

why would a normal-thinking rational sane man who has money and a very bright future marry a living fossil?
whats important in a woman if not her body. what does she bring to a man? money? no. brains? no. so it has to be the body. and the fresher the better.
dont make me remind you about that milk thing again...

MissWrite:
Controversial. People will always remain on different divides on this topic. So let's just make our points with civility, and not condescend to calling pro-choicers murderers and pro-lifers idiots.

Some governments are more concerned with "looking good" than with solving problems. They prefer to take a public position against abortion, so that they won't be seen to condone or encourage the act; even if that position does not, in fact, decrease the rate of abortion. It's not an active position that fights or punishes abortion, so people still do it with more associated risks, and they have only themselves to blame for the repercussions. It's an irresponsible position, in the sense that they're eschewing responsibility. The fact that girls die from complications does not bother them: the girls are to blame. A responsible government takes a holistic look at the situation and evaluates how effective a ban has been in achieving the goal. What is the goal by the way? Sanctimony, public health & safety, protection of life? .....how honest is that intent?

As long as people remain sexually active, chances are are that 15 out of 100 condom users will get knocked up each year and there would be unplanned pregnancies that cannot be catered to. The numbers are even worse in a sanctimonious society where many people don't subscribe to birth control. Why do you think parents force children to work or send their kids to become domestic slaves in other people's homes? Unplanned pregnancies can happen in or out of wedlock. Prospective parents may not be ready for parenthood for a myriad of reasons: finances, age, mental health conditions, apathy. All of these conditions, along with complications with the pregnancy itself, should affect the viability of the pregnancy. Forcing a child to come to life in a less than optimistic environment is not in his/her best interest. Children deserve better. If the government forces a child's existence in spite of the unpreparedness of the parents, then it should do well to provide welfare for children in order to prevent them from inevitably ending up on the streets; otherwise, it's just being hypocritical and irresponsible. Again.


Jeremiah 1:5, that's the verse religious folk like to quote to prove that life starts at conception:

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

What I see here, though, is forethought. We should take example from God and birth children to purpose. Don't be careless and abandon them to fate. Know them, prepare for them, and be ready for them. If you're having sex for fun and popping out every consequence as an unavoidable by-product; you aren't giving children the due consideration. The creation of Adam and Eve was always in the offing but God left it for the sixth day because the world had to be made conducive first. Forethought.

So when exactly does life start? At conception, after the first trimester or at birth? Technically, there was never "no life". The smallest unit of life, after all, is a living cell. The ovum and the sperm are living. And yet nature flushes the egg out every month if it doesn't get fertilized, and expels sperm cells in a wet dream. These aren't tragedies, not all living organisms must be preserved by law. Legal life and biological life should be distinguished. When does the zygote become a person?

Here's a debate. Fair warning: it's a story. A longer one.

https://www.nairaland.com/4275798/dinner-conversation

how can you rip a foetus from its umbilical cord and see it moving in your hand as it expires and not call that murder? has eating eggs made us stone cold dead in the heart about unborn babies??

all that passage about pros and cons of abortion can be solved with diligent use of contraception. even simple ones like the morning after pill or the Injection that you get then stay months active. its not rocket science. women are just lazy.

legal life begins at any point that humans agree on. could be at implatation, at first trimester etc.

and abortion-lovers love to lobby governments to extend the time limit a pregnancy can be removed.i dont know why! its like the longer they bond with the unborn child the sweeter the abortion.
no wonder women who arbot are forever miserable. the blood of a human is sacred. that you carrying a human doesnt mean its yours to kill.


anyways studies have shown that the more people accept arbotion as part of life the less value they place on human life. and death becomes a simple thing to them

Shugavee:
in my opinion I feel it’s because Nigerians r very religions,,, they are hardly rational. God this God that... even when they know the child Might now survive or it might be emotionally draining ... cause I see no reason for a 12 years old to born a child.. but Nigerians will say God this n that,,,, and also they want Nigerians to be careful cause if it’s legalized trust me most people won’t use condom even with std and hiv on the loose...safe sex is the best

you took your time to look at both sides of the coin. that shows your brain works.

Shugavee:
sweetheart next time ignore that fool,,, he is a known for extreme foolishness

she cant ignore the uncondomized dick. how can she ignore ubunja?

funmisticqueen:
what aboit the mental and physical wellbeing of the pregnant mother, you just ignored that part

thats why you dont have sex until you are matured mentally.

funmisticqueen:
condom is cheap but many nigerian men are dumb enough not to use it especially catholics

there is the female condom.
and there is the injection and the morning--after pill. did men stop you from taking those as well?

funmisticqueen:
because the sideeffects outweigh the benefits

the benefits of contraception outweigh the benefits of abortion.

funmisticqueen:
a certain somebody should stop mentioning me because i wont reply him until he apologises and takes back those curses he made at me.

that i have a difference in opinion shouldnt warrant you to curse me in cyberspace, not that it is effective anyway

your replies were never needed
im following your every comment and cleaning up sewage.

funmisticqueen:
one thing i have noticed in this thread is that all my opponents are men, no woman has voiced an opinion yet, only women know how the shoe pinches.

pretending to be blind will not save you:

Hisduchess:
nice question

Colourich:
You can keep doing your abortions, but Nigeria ain't gonna legalize abortion.


I'm pro life.

funmisticqueen:
Abortion is scientifically a medical procedure in which a mother terminates a fetus. To equate abortion to murder would be absolutely insane. So a man has a choice between killing a woman or a fetus, and you are saying both are equivalently evil and murder? The woman has a life, dreams, family, history, possibly a job. The fetus has nothing but what it is given.
It has the potential to become a great person. It also has the potential to become a terrorist. But for all intents and purposes, that's all it has: POTENTIAL. That is why I do not see it as murder.

then use contraception if you dont want to get pregnant.



just like you use protection if you dont want to get an STI.

funmisticqueen:
you saying that abortion is murder is the same thing as saying a spontaneous miscarriage is manslaughter because in both cases the fetus is lost, one because the host's body rejected the fetus, while the second had the fetus removed. In essence you are saying that all women who miscarry are murderers because the two terms are used interchangeably in medicine

see ehn, women should not be allowed to jeopardise their future because of a pregnancy . it should be a thing of joy, in the right setting, at the right time.

Contraception methods in the world:
1.condom
2.morning pill
3.the injection
4.withdrawal method
5.rhythm method etc
dont tell us about jeopardising you future when you having unprotected sex. you'll get AIDS and no arbotion can ever remove it
stop thinking and death is your friend.

funmisticqueen:
you saying that abortion is murder is the same thing as saying a spontaneous miscarriage is manslaughter because in both cases the fetus is lost, one because the host's body rejected the fetus, while the second had the fetus removed. In essence you are saying that all women who miscarry are murderers because the two terms are used interchangeably in medicine

see ehn, women should not be allowed to jeopardise their future because of a pregnancy. it should be a thing of joy, in the right setting, at the right time.

so you compare miscarriage to abortion? heartless feminist.
thats like comparing death in a car accident to murder how can a woman's body rejecting a baby equal to you cutting up a baby in the womb with scissors? you really are cold and emotionally dead.

funmisticqueen:
please i am a health professional, i know what an aborted fetus looks like

then you should know the later the arbotion happens the more developed will be the baby.
a baby arboted in the first trimester will look different from a baby aborted at the second trimester.

as a health professional you should also know babies in the womb can hear the voice of the mother. its a human! and you wanna flush that down the toilet? your feminism is making your brain turn to sewage. being equal to a man does not have to mean you also stop making babies like men . dumb feminist

funmisticqueen:
let me borrow a few words from my friend mrbrownjay1,
with all the stories of:-
- pedos/fathers having sex with even their biological children
- rampant rape in Nigeria
- trend of newborn babies being thrown in dustbins
- babies being sold to ritualists
- vast amount of unwanted children begging at traffic lights
- foolish people having unprotected sex with strangers
- women selling their bodies for money
- unwanted children in orphanages that NOBODY wants to adopt, due to rubbish Nigerian beliefs and/or ego
-ignorant men who think they are alpha males but in reality are just barbarians who want to give AIDS to teenage girls.
- or just foolish people wanting to have kids without having any means to care for them
etc e

then go to the West where arbotion is legal and enjoy the benefits of population control.
what benefits are those?
NONE. because they are now clamoring making noise for immigrants to be allowed into western countries.
and why? because they are now underpopulated
they played God and nature outplayed them. go to google and see that in the US the birth rates are at their lowest in decades. the old are living longer thanx to modern medicine and the productive age group (18-35) is so small thanx to decades of arbotion, so now the productive are outnumbered by the dependent who are on pension and welfare. now what? import people. how? immigration. the price to be paid? the immigrants are moslems and they bring foreign cultures and religions. examples? Population and Culture experts are saying by 2030 Germany wont have a pure German race. it will be mixed. bye bye Arian race.
it all starts with arbotions.

funmisticqueen:
ubunja, if you have respect for that appendage between your legs never insult me like this again. this is the last time i will reply any of your mentions on nairaland. you have proved to me that you are nothing more than a barbarian

barbarians kill innocent unborn babies that cant defend themselves.
here is another curse for the road. with the blood of Jesus may your womb shrivel and be like a barren desert unable to produce anything living. may you never know the joy of holding a new born baby for you have proven to be a bloodthirsty barbarian worse than the monsters in prison who atleast kill grown ups who can defend themselves.
God please make this life-hating feminist barren all the days of her life.i pray.

death of english

funmisticqueen:
you are yet to prove to me that abortion is murder. please stop regurgitating what your pastors fed you here

do aborted babies come out shaped like people or animals? whatsapp me and i send you a video of an abortion and you see the babies moving around in the womb trying to escape. i put my number in my profile for you. the video is just 5mb.

funmisticqueen:
when they can't reply with a dignified answer, they turn to rabid dogs. I have more wisdom in my little finger than you have in your entire person.

then use that wisdom to decode this: may God make your womb expire this year and your make your ovaries as useless as water. if by some miracle you do get a child may he be sickle all the days of his life and die young as a curse for being born to a dumb womb-owner. may all the fruit of your womb just be a disappointment that you will be forced to have your womb removed.
in the name of Jesus i pray that you become as infertile as a doll. just like you are empty-brained as one. may God make this curse come on you and you make no use of that cursed womb.

MIKOLOWISKA:
i don't think
I know

you and buhari will make good ignorant small-brained friends

Forevermore:
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UP

focus on your soccer gambling

mimimile93:
I saw a thread, u were battling words with this dolt .

The mo.ron is unstable and confused.

With is empty skull he really has nothing to offer.


He doesn't know where he belongs.

Dirty brat he is.

He keeps nose poking and displaying his foolishness.


He wants to be Nairaland ladies' favorite.

I laugh at him.

Son of a bitch he is.

I have warned him to stay off me..

he's just changing colors like a chamelion.he needs to sit down and think then make a decision. will he be a Vagina Worshipper or a Red Pill man. he needs to decide. this constant switching of sides is pure immaturity.