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Webmasters › Re: Start Up Review: Socialreachng by moderatorr: 2:01pm On Nov 04, 2014*

onyengbu:
Ol boy, I thought you said I cant get it to be like thunderclap. Now you want me to go for a "better" design abi? Sorry, we dont want a better design, we have a focal point and we based everything on it. What you should be concerned about now is to review it on that line.

The sheer amount of energy you guys spend on trying to get a job from another persons job is such a shame.
Abeg go and face your taekwando lessons. We are talking web design here.

**I dont know if you know I actually enjoy your back-and-forth. The last time we did it on the other thread, it landed me mouth watering jobs. So maybe we should do it again.**

You always think everybody is against you, then you start attacking every comment.
The owner of the site asked for review. When web masters give their review, instead of effecting changes you jump out and start attacking like a stray dog.
On the other thread, another of your client showed up asking for review on a website you did for him and complaining about your skills and arogance ( www..com ), when web masters said your design was very poor. Instead of asking clearer questions you decided to start attacking everybody.
You even quoted me there, asking for comments. I just didn't want to comment.
If you insist on knowing my comment on your design on www..com too. It would be a painful one to here. The site is a disaster on pc.

This one too ( www.socialreachng.com . You tried to your level, but you are very very poor with design.
People have already mentioned that, so i'm going to talk about something else.
The site is very slow. It has less than 50 users and opens 10 times slower than nairaland!
What will happen when it gets to 1000 users?
I don't even need to start pointing out more design flaws and how best to approach their correction because you are too proud for your coat.
Forget web design, You should just go into blogging because you are big talkative or you come and get schooled on web design.
Honest review is not easy to get. Your best friends are those who can review your work and tell you whatt is wrong without giving a shii about who you are. Customers will just walk away.
Be professional when you relate to people.

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Webmasters › Re: Please Review This New Startup feature : site for creating forms by moderatorr(op): 1:37pm On Nov 04, 2014

Khaynet:
Nice concept. bro
really nice.

Thanks a lot.

Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 6:23am On Nov 04, 2014

Design is actually harder than coding.
Many people don't know.
I could code in 3 days, design in 2 weeks.
This is because design is what hits your users first, its your user's first impression.
Web design is a complete course on its own and a full time profession for many.

Webmasters › Please Review This New Startup feature : site for creating forms by moderatorr(op): 5:40am On Nov 04, 2014*

A new feature on our startup (brain tem .org) *pls join the spaces* helps you create custom forms for your users to fill. Please help criticize it and suggest improvements. Your opinion is very much expected, respected and appreciated.

Its the first site in Nigeria and Africa in general that does any such thing.

Some notable features
a. Owner of forms can track the forms' progress.
b. Track users, email them, chat them up on the site (if they are registered).
c. Each form optionally generates custom pins for each user, if the form created enabled that setting.
d. The creator of the form is notified by email and site alerts every time someone fills the form
e. Custom urls are generated for each form so form creator can share them
f. custom handles (like twitter handles) can be enabled by form owner, its shorter and more memorable. The handles make it easy for a form creator to know what form a user has filled by just looking at the pin they provided.
That is,assuming a person fills your form and comes to your exam or interview venue with their pin, the pin contains a handle for the form . When you see the handle for the form, you immediately know which form they have filled.
g. Form creator can specify which hidden pages of information (eg. download link) the user would see after filling a form.
h. Your form fillers can upload files up to 10mb

Some things it can be used for:
1. Event Attendance Forms
2. Staff office signing and signout form
3. Interview and job application
4. Contact us form
5. Product order form
6. After bank payment form (where users have to indicate to you that they have made a payment)
7. Perfectly nails the problem of having to create a whole new site everytime you need a new form. People can create form there and link it to their own site.
And so on.
You just build the form into whatever you want.

The site is www. Brain tem .org *pls join the spaces or use the link on my footnote below.
Thanks for your time.

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Webmasters › Re: Start Up Review: Socialreachng by moderatorr: 5:25am On Nov 04, 2014

onyengbu:
ok. So that one is professional? I see. What made you think the owner will choose your "professional" over what he already have.
Is that a 640px screenshot of the socialreach site you posted last?

@CreativeWeb actually posted a much better design. You should take a cue or pay him to fix your design.

Business › How To Create Custom Online Recruitment Forms For Your Company by moderatorr(op): 4:23am On Oct 27, 2014*

If your company is recruiting, or you are planning on holding an event which requires people to fill a certain form online , eg. beauty contest, training, reports etc , here is the site to use
Brain tem .org

Just visit the site, and click on 'forms'.
It has full customer management and ticket tracking feature for each submitted form.

Webmasters › Re: Say Hello To Hilary 419 by moderatorr: 5:27pm On Oct 23, 2014

hilaryiwens05:
I told u guys to be patient, I will fix ur work. And aslo be ready to rectify and delete all post when your job is done

your reputation has already been soiled, no need to rush any longer. Take your time and do the site. That's the only way to redeem any other thing that is left off.
It cant really get worse than this. Take your time, pull your self together and do a good job.
When you are done, create a new thread for it on nairaland
Hope you learnt some lessons sha.

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Webmasters › Re: Tips For Protecting Your Phone From Theft In Crowded Areas by moderatorr: 4:55am On Oct 23, 2014

i like to put my phone in front pocket (jeans) or hold it on my hand when i suspect fish.

Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 4:22am On Oct 22, 2014

payne4real:
Project Update
Out of the 5 features we submit for review, Facebook approved 4. So we need to resubmit the review for the remaining features (public action). We will correct our mistake and submit again.

Will keep updating you guys on the progress of the project.

Have a blissful day guys

you guys don't get it yet, this topic is not about your project. You said your project has been completed, that's fine. Imagine that every other person is trying to hi jack this thread.
The topic is about desperate developers (and clients) who grossly under charge and under pay for projects and end up not delivering.
This has been the latest trend on Nairaland's web master's section. Clients reporting developers for incomplete jobs.
congratulations on your projects' progress.
pls stay on topic.

Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 3:53pm On Oct 19, 2014

Homguy:
If this joiseboy is who it seems he is, I'll be so dissappointed.

i am not @Josieboy
i just decided to ignore the @onyemgbu of a guy so he can quit attempting to derail the thread, unfortunately he has picked a fight with another person.

Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 3:50pm On Oct 19, 2014

Homguy:
If this joiseboy is who it seems he is, I'll be so dissappointed.

i am not @Josieboy, i just decided to ignore the @onyemgbu of a guy.
a way to know if two nairaland handles are owned by the same person is to click on their name and vo through their past posts.

Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 12:19pm On Oct 19, 2014

Lastdon02:
hmm. Intresting.... But boss its not the guy fult na. Haba imagine one of our so called web developer (name witheld) lol. Collected 10k fo two e-commarce site. Its so so so pa·thet·ic!
So from own perspective i dont blame the Client nor the coder na condition make crayfish bend. Lol any ways shine ur eye 4 nl b4 u give out ur project o.

But beta people day Nl sha .people like A********k # my brother in d code lol. Omo. I don high 2nyt walai

10k for two ecommerce sites? lol
Well its true though, clients who pay that low should not really expect much from the web developer, because the developer may likely run out of funds mid way and be unable to deliver or deliver such a poor quality that project may be rejected.

Webmasters › Re: Those Who Design Cheap Website And Those Who Think Web Design Is Cheap... by moderatorr: 7:15am On Oct 17, 2014

Sibrah:
Only if you see the handiwork of our web designers. Some took good templates and mess them up in the name of delivering a unique work.

Very pathetic, there is one of them stalking me now on every thread for pointing out that he charged way too little for such a large project and will end up not possibly delivering.
Some clients, pay too little because they dont understand the complexity of input involved, its the duty of the developer to explain things to them b4 agreeing on a prize.

Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 6:11am On Oct 17, 2014*

onyengbu:
Over and over, I have proved to anyone who care to listen that your above claim is a petty lie.
You have begged for 35k job here in nairaland and it is there for everyone to see. I saved it for you.
Ok, i don hear we are not mates but how come you are going all over this board begging for jobs including 35k jobs.

I have witheld valuable information way too long and all you do is keep throwing insults and attempting to derail my threads, i am protecting your clients' interest name and reputation that's why i have not given the full details of their disappointments towards your work.
But if your client can come here and quickly agree that you have 'completed' the project without posting the link or asking you to keep quiet , i would be forced to post screenshots here and in the other thread where i allowed you to get away with your ignorance.
The next shi.t you post about me here, i would add screenshots to the threads.
If i say i dont accept web design of less than 100k and no client has come here to ever disprove it, is that not enough justification?

Your client is dissatisfied with everything you have done, you have taken longer than you promised to deliver, he tried to be professional and cover up your mess by coming here within 2 hours to say that you have magically completed everything.

He is trying to save is personal relationship with you not that you have done any thing.
You are one of those people who under charge for a project and end up not delivering.
Like i predicted in the other thread, you will mess up the project and you did. if you say the job is complete , then post the link simple.

I am not your mate in web design. see, its not about the money. Its about the quality of dispensation and complexity.
.
Your client wants a heavy traffic generating app, you charge 40k then accept 35k from him so he can buy domain name and hosting with the remaining , you are so desperate that you decided to hide information about the kind of hosting it would need, not a 5k shared hosting.
You probably don't know, that the project would fail even after it has been hosted.
That site you are mimicking was built by a new York based development team, and you want to build it in 3 weeks for 35k? 3 weeks has long since passed, why do you think you have not delivered?
You will still end with beautiful and non functional rubbish

onyengbu:
... It could be mine and besides we all could find out whether scam, incompetence or any other thing is going on with the project or with the people handling it. ...

wait, You actually outsourced it again! heheheheee cheesy

The thread did not make reference to you but you jumped in, i don't know what you think you are doing, but if your client can come here and attempt to cover your mess without telling you to shut up and stop disgracing yourself here, i would be forced to ignore his relationship with you and the words he has told me in private and post screenshots of everything.
mtcheeeww

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Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 11:28pm On Oct 16, 2014

emmyvet:
Lol that's Nigeria,
When Such client comes I just laugh.
Imagine a client I meet on Nairaland who needs an E-commerce website with automatic payment system (paypal and credit card) installed and many special functions with 7k I was like Oga na wordpress blog you dey find? Lol,
He said that their are some of us that can even do it at 5k, and that's true I have seen that kind of advert here on Nairaland.

You are actually correct. There are threads all over Nairaland now of clients complaining of web 'gurus' not being able to finish their project even after 4 months. One thing is common in all of them if you observe, they all underpaid for the project. how can you pay someone 10k to build a social network for u lol.
By the time the designer buys modem subscription, the money is finished, how will they purchase domain name and host it?
Most traffic demanding sites need to be on a vps, which clients and some web 'gurus' don't understand.
The project can still fail, even after it has been completed if its not on the right host.

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Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 10:43pm On Oct 16, 2014*

onyengbu:
of all the people who has read or has been commenting, i know you are attempting a jibe at me after all you and I have been through on the other thread. The client knows it too. Your problem is that you cant see that your badly thought out mudslinging will only end up ruining what is left of the little reputation you have on this board. My exposing your petty lie on the other thread shouldnt have been a big issue if werent more than a lier. Come on, you told a simple lie people tell sometimes to make themselves feel good about themselves. However, your actions since my little exposé is somewhat alarming. From modifying your posts to cooking up half truths on this thread tells me you might be more than a petty lier.
Your senseles vendatta thread will only end up denting your image further rather than achieve the aim of creating it.
To break it to you, you claimed you don't do less than 100k job but I do sometimes. This particular one is done, the owner has said something too if you need the link before he launches, request it from him here. The link is not mine to give.

My only advice to you is to let this your vendatta thing go or your evil machinations will consume you.

You do sites of 35k, i do sites of 100k and above, when we get sites of less than 100k we refer then to a sister company and monitor it till finish, we are not mates, So i accept, you have won, leave this thread.

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Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 6:23am On Oct 16, 2014*

onyengbu:
OK. You rushed to it a bit. You should have waited some more for this crook of guy guy calling himself moderatorr to finish making fool of himself before coming in.
Again, you should have explained to the house the misunderstanding you and I had about the "major functions" not working which you told the guy that gave him the guts to come here under the guise of "educating clients" to malign me simply because I exposed a simple lie he told on the other thread.

Of all the persons who have read this post and few who have commented, you are the only one feeling aggrieved.

How did you even know that you are the one when neither you name, the name of the client, nor the name of the project was mentioned.

If you feel so certain that you are the one, even with all the scanty details, it means the story is true.
I need not post any screenshots. You always jump into my threads and take things personal. Please stop commenting on my threads.

Others are commenting freely and you are carrying the masquerade on your head when you should be coding, if you feel the story points to you in anyway or paints the exact situation you are facing with your client, why not post a link to the 'completed' project and save your face and walk out of thread,

instead of staging a market fight?
Pls don't derail the thread. This thread is about educating clients, not picking a fight with someone.

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Webmasters › Re: Ajisafe Adeoluwa Akintoye Of Protege Solutions Is A Fraud ! by moderatorr: 5:59am On Oct 16, 2014

kesx:
Lesson learnt - never advance payment to a so called web developer before he begins the job. Payment should be done per milestone .

Not really though, someone ike me would never do a 'demo' for anyone who hasnt committed financially.
You may spend your resources doing a demo and the client will tell you they are no longer ready for the project cheesy

If my portfolio cant convince a client, no demo from me can.

Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 9:06pm On Oct 15, 2014

onyengbu:
OP, the scenario you created above really is so close to home because I am currently involved in a project of 35k for a fellow nairalander.
Since you said you have the screenshots why not mention the developer username, the project url and the client. It could be mine and besides we all could find out whether scam, incompetence or any other thing is going on with the project or with the people handling it.
Please no need removing names, if there is something fishy going on with any nairaland involved, we need to know the persons involved and the nature of their involvement.

Thanks a whole lot, but the aim is not to point fingers at people, but to educate clients here.
With the scanty details of the discussion i posted in the OP, whoever is involved will decipher that they are the one involved.

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Webmasters › Re: How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 9:37am On Oct 15, 2014

maekhel:
some clients sef can be very funny, dre s dis guy dat want me to build an e-commerce site fr 8k. after explaining wat the site will entail to him, he den confess dat someone contacted him and he had already collected 15k fr d project, spent 5k out of it and d owner is on his neck. I just told him d fact: explain to d owner wit dat amt it can never be possible.

lol very funny

Webmasters › Re: Ajisafe Adeoluwa Akintoye Of Protege Solutions Is A Fraud ! by moderatorr: 9:36am On Oct 15, 2014

Jregz:
WTF ? Scam everywhere, this is terrible, Please post his picture(s) as he can change.his phone number and email address

Webmasters › Re: Ajisafe Adeoluwa Akintoye Of Protege Solutions Is A Fraud ! by moderatorr: 9:19am On Oct 15, 2014*

Jregz:
WTF ? Scam everywhere, this is terrible, Please post his picture(s) as he can change.his phone number and email address

lol, check this out: how to spot rogue web developers before wasting your money : https://www.nairaland.com/1949737/how-spot-rogue-web-developers

Webmasters › How to Spot Rogue Web Developers before giving a project by moderatorr(op): 12:40am On Oct 15, 2014

Some web 'gurus' and web design seminar attendees mask as web developers, collect projects from unsuspecting clients, mess them up and brace up the worst.
The client hence wastes money paying another web developer, to repair it or do a fresh one.
Most clients believe that asking a web developer to show you their potfolio, is the silver bullet to detect if they can handle the job or not.
Its not enough. I'll let you know ways to spot web rogues and real web developers from a discussion i had with a prospective client .
Here is the brief story, the client (name withheld) , posted here on nairaland, more than a mont ago, asking for a web designer who could replicate the functionalities of a certain foreign web site.
Unfortunately, he gave out the project to the cheapest and first bidder.
Last night, the client contacted me (i also commented on the thread) , we had a chat on whatsapp.
He introduced himself and explained to me that even after one month "some things were still not working and that the web 'developer' " couldn't deliver.
Here is my advice to him,
"give him more time, he may still find his way around the present glitches and complete the project. Maybe its his first time to execute such a technical project. But nevertheless ,mount more pressure on him"
He replied that he had given him 1 week deadline to deliver. He complained that he never knew, the 'guy' was amateur.
[i have the screenshots, but i'll just copy and paste
client: [7:19am, 10/14/2014] ‪ Av list lots of investors who are ready to give me some cash to promote the site
[7:20am, 10/14/2014] ‪+‬:
But I keep given them excuse upon excuse. It's over a month now, the site is not ready...

ME: Ok, just give him time. Its good you have pressured him with a deadline. He will figure out a way to put it all together eventually.

In case of next time, If the designer charges too cheap for an obviously very technical project, he is still an amateur, and lacks understanding of the technical requirements and time frame of the project.

You should also check the portfolio of the web designer before giving out the project. Make sure u are giving out to a web designer who has done something a bit similar before.

CLiENT: [7:21am, 10/14/2014] ‪He charged me I hosted the domain so he charged me 35k
[7:22am, 10/14/2014] : He showed me his profile and I was convinced he can handled it
[7:23am, 10/14/2014] : Every other thing worked except for the major functions

ME: People can download beautiful online templates, tweak it a little and then host it as new websites for their clients. The beauty of a website does not reflect expertise these days, It is the functionality that you should be looking at.
Its the functionality that would reflect the experience of the programmer.
You should always ask yourself or the programmer "what does this website do" instead of "who who was it designed for?"
The answer to the first question will say alot about the extent of work the programmer put in. It differentiates web developers from web amateurs and cheats whose incompetency will end up costing you more.

CLIENT: Pls just be on the standby

ME: No problem. Only thing is that we may have issues with the cost of building the website. Though you can pay in installments over time as you are able to.
CLIENT: its ok

wheww! That was it. I censored a lot to remove any info that will reveal any sensitive information. But hope you get the picture?

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