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barcanista: My friend stop misleading people. A rerun is different from byelection. The 5 governors were sacked because they 1st Swore Oath in 2007 for a Fresh term. Inec failed not to hold election in 2011 for their seats. The court sacked them in 2012 because their term has ended in 2011 having first start the term in 2007

How am I misleading people?.I am backing up my assertions with constitutional provisions and case law,while u brought nada to the table.
A bye-election is an election n there's no special provision treating it's outcome different from others,save that they complete the term of office that is yet to be completed.A deputy succeeding his boss does not stand for election.Again,I direct u to the language of Section 182(1)b.That term,"first elected" is very important.I think it's what u overlook,hence ur confusion.
Btw,I'm using my phone here too.Citing that for ur inability to back up ur wrongful assertions does not hold water.

barcanista: You are wrong Sir. The case btw Inec and Silva/Wammako/Nyako does not apply here but the case btw Inec vs Peter Obi in 2007.

The case between inec n Peter Obi was about tenure interpretation for a "first elected governor".
The Nyako,Silva n Ors case was about tenure elongation thru rerun elections n applies here.
Even taking the two cases together,a first elected governor,whether by bye-election or rerun is only entitled to another election,translating to another term,from the day he takes the oath of office.See Section 182(1)b again.

Obinoscopy: I never said section 191 constitution was amended. I only said electoral laws (Electoral Act inclusive) were amended to ensure that handover date wasn't skewed. I can't remember the particular section but I know that some governors whose elections were annulled and re-conducted based on orders from election tribunal couldn't enjoy tenure elongation because a section of the constitution was amended to prevent such.

There was no Constitutional amendment,only the Supreme Court's interpretation of existing constitutional provisions.That's the case of INEC v Silva n 4 ors.
No executive office holder is expected to stay in office for more than 8years,whether he serves two consecutive terms or not.Only Ibrahim Idris of Kogi state did by some few months.That's by the way.
The ruling was not cos of any amendment or handover date,but in order not to set a precedent of office holders perpetuating themselves in office by engineering rerun elections thru whatever means.

barcanista: Obinoscopy you are so wrong. A term signifies 4 years starting from the day the Governor took oath of office. A Candidate is eligible for not more than 2 terms ie 8 FULL years either c consecutively of 4years per time. The bye-election DO NOT COUNT. The Bye-election is to complete the Term of Nyako's government.

A bye-election,run-off or rerun elections all counts.No one who gains executive office through an election is expected to hold office for more than 8years,whether consecutive or not.So said the Supreme Court in the case of INEC v Timipre Silva,Wammako n Ors.

Obinoscopy: You missed my point. We're essentially saying the same thing.

And you're wrong about the electoral act, it has been amended several times.

It's you who actually missed mine.This is not a question of the Electoral Act,it is n has always been a Constitutional question.Section 191(2) has not been amended at any time

saintneo: I think you missed this one mate

Get off ur lazy-ass,get the Constitution,read and be informed.Stop making a show of ur ignorance here.

Obinoscopy: Our Electoral Laws has been modified. When a governor and deputy are impeached, a Bye Election (and not main election) is conducted. Thus since it's a bye election, whoever wins only completes the tenure of the impeached governor. When the tenure expires, a fresh election is conducted.

This modification was done to prevent further skewing of the handover date (May 29) for the winners of gubernatorial elections.

So to answer your questions:

Qxn 1: Yes

Qxn 2: Yes, the Electoral Act was modified to ensure this

Qxn 3: It's double expenses quite alright but it needs to be done to ensure the handover date is not further skewed

Qxn 4: Whoever that is elected is aware that he's only completing the tenure of the impeached governor. Thus he won't claim anything.

You are so wrong.There was/had been no modification of Electoral laws,it has been so constitutionally since the advent of this republic.The Speaker is expected to hold the office of Acting Governor of a state for 3 months,if the office becomes vacant by reason of death,resignation,incapacitation,impeachment or any other reason,of the office holder,at a period when the office of the Deputy Governor is also vacant.Elections are expected to hold within that 3 months to fill said vacant posts n winners of said election serve out what remains of the term of the previous office holder.
"191. (1) The Deputy Governor of a
State shall hold the office of
Governor of the State if the office
of Governor becomes vacant by
reason of death, resignation,
impeachment, permanent incapacity
or removal of the governor from
office for any other reason in
accordance with section 188 or 189
of this constitution.
(2) Where any vacancy occurs in
the circumstances mentioned in
subsection (1) of this section
during a period when the office
of Deputy Governor of the State
is also vacant, the Speaker of
the House of Assembly of the
State shall hold the office of
Governor of the State for a
period of not more than three
months, during which there shall
be an election of a new
Governor of the State who shall
hold office for the unexpired
term of office of the last holder
of the office."
http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm
Same thing holds true for the office of the President if it becomes vacant during a period when the office of the Vice President is also vacant.To wit:
"146. (1) The Vice-President shall
hold the office of President if the
office of President becomes vacant
by reason of death or resignation,
impeachment, permanent incapacity
or the removal of the President
from office for any other reason in
accordance with section 143 of this
Constitution.
(2) Where any vacancy occurs in
the circumstances mentioned in
subsection (1) of this section
during a period when the office
of Vice-President is also vacant,
the President of the Senate shall
hold the office of President for a
period of not more than three
months, during which there shall
be an election of a new
President, who shall hold office
for the unexpired term of office
of the last holder of the office."

http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm

@HNosegbe,I thought u are a lawyer.U ought to have known all this.

chronique: So,because a curfew was imposed,it now automatically means Bama was lost? Sometimes,I wonder how you nairalanders think.

Olukolade just confirmed on AIT news that current airstrikes in that area is to "reclaim lost territory".
How do you "reclaim" a territory you hold?.
Like I said earlier,let's stop playing ostrich n face hard reality here.Boko Haram has gotten out of hand.They got a shot of adrenaline from ISIS exploits n the INCOMPETENCY of our security apparatus n high command.

Colour me dumb,but how do u launch intense airstrikes against a town you are in control of?.Why withdraw troops from a position they are well in charge of in order to launch airstrikes?.A lot of things don't add up here

jaytee01: Is the APC now in charge of the army?

They would make marginally better commanders than the buffoons we have currently,don't you think?.
It wasn't this bad under Ihejirika,but due to 2015 permutations,our Chicken-in-Chief had him removed n in the process of appointing a lackey,had the créme of our command pool retired.

LordMecuzy: Nigeria My Country .


What is Happening?


Another War Looming?


Hmmmmmm mmmm

And We Still dey talk of 2015 election

Well,Nero is fiddling while Rome burns

ukukaegbu: God will not allow that to happen

It's happening,bro.Let's stop playing the Ostrich here

With this kind of news coming from the Army in Maiduguri,I'm starting to believe we indeed lost Bama and BH had the upper hand in their engagement with the armed forces today.
Nigerian authorities need a serious rethink,thus far they've come up short against this scourge.
To all those doubting Thomases,not every negative news out of the Northeast theatre is directed just at making GEJ look bad n incompetent,he does that all on his own.

The Nigerian Army has reviewed the curfew in
Maiduguri, the capital of the troubled Borno
State.
In a press statement by the Deputy Director,
Army Public Relations, Colonel Sani Usman, the
curfew hours on the town is now 7pm to 6am.
The curfew formerly on the town was from
9pm to 6am daily and the additional two
hours was handed down due to the
deteriorating security situation in the state,
especially as a result of an increase in the
number of attacks on some towns.
Usman in the statement said no one was
exempted from the curfew.
“All must comply with the directive and anyone
found flouting this directive will be arrested
and prosecuted,” he said.
More details later.


http://www.punchng.com/news/army-imposes-dusk-to-dawn-curfew-in-maiduguri/

passion007: You have no point!
Is that enough to usurp another party's candidate? PDP nurtured and groomed GEJ, and now, out of the blues, APGA wants to share glory for PDP's efforts. That act is wrong on all fronts. There are many Igbo technocrats APGA can nurture and groom, rather than impersonate PDP. Even if there's no candidate to support, they could have quietly gone to restrategize, rather than this endorsement of PDP's candidate.
I hope the litigation will cost them their last kobo!

Shugomu,what litigation?.
PDP is suing the IG,not APGA.And they're crying cos APGA just outplayed them,unlike AD in 2003.If u are too blind to see that that's what this is all about n not Jonathan per se,then there's no hope for u politically.

Lots of nitwits on here.
APGA is supporting Jonathan while guarding against any foul play by PDP as a party during the elections.The 2003 elections aftermath in the Southwest readily comes to mind n APGA learnt a lot from it.That is why PDP Anambra is crying.Why are they not suing APGA instead of the IG?

NgeneUkwenu: The same way you lots didn't believe Soludo was disqualified before it you in the face! Keep living in denial! The news is rife back home!

Ndi Anambra Abago!

What news is rife back "home",this your tales by moonlight?.
Fyi,I've bn home now some weeks,even had ward n LG meetings n I'm just hearing it from u

ChrisOD: It is part of my opening remark. You claimed to have read my opening remark, no?

I followed that saga quite closely and it was very heated. There was bitterness. Stop living in denial.

And like I said,you are grasping at straws.
I didn't comment on it initially cos u started dwelling on so-called "Catholic v Anglican feud".
Have done with this nonsense,u can open any thread u like on any topic.What I questioned n still question is ur "100% unbiased" claim.
Last word,stop living in ur own fevered imaginations.

ChrisOD: Do you have anything to say about the Mbaise Catholics and the Anambra Bishop saga? Or are you unaware of that one?

You've started grasping at straws,what has that got to do with anything?.The Mbaise clergy wants a Bishop from amongst themselves,not even from Okigwe nor Owerri Dioceses.The Catholic church don't work like that,tis the Pope that gives final approval n so they got stuck.Okpalaeke has already bn consecrated bishop n there's no going back on that.
How does that relate to ur imagined "christian religious crisis in Igboland"?

ChrisOD: Great. I have always thought those politicians are not all Catholics. Several news at the time of the elections in Anambra suggested so.

And as for being biased, you do not have an idea of whom I am, so I am leaving you to wallow in your thinking.

Yes,I don't know who u are.Not calling ur person or character into question.What I do question is ur claim of being unbiased.Your thread title,OP n subsequent comment put a lie to that.

ChrisOD: Did you read my opening comment and the second post from me?

I read everything.
U started out with a mindset,threw in what is purely politics as if having religious undertone into the mix,then tried to back it up with an unconfirmed tale from an unreliable/unknown source.
Did I leave anything out?.
I'm currently in the East,my family consist of Catholics,Anglicans n Pentecostals.
Whatever feud there be exist only in ur fevered imagination.
And u didn't even know Obi,Ngige,Obiano,Soludo et al are Catholics?.Smh
The only Anglican in their midst is Andy Uba n one has never heard him complain of being discriminated against cos of his denomination

ChrisOD: For disclosure, I am an Igbo. I was born a Christian (non-Catholic) but since growing up and leading my own life, I have come to see religion as a problem rather than a solution. So I have lost any true interest in religion. For that reason, in the past 8 years, I have not been to Church more than 150 times (keep in mind that there are at least 54 Sundays in just one year, so you can imagine how poor my attendance has been during this period), and all of those attendance have been in Catholic churches, just to please someone in my life

This disclosure underscores my non-bias (yes, I am 1000% unbiased towards any of the Christian denominations) in this story.

A lot of inconsistences in the OP already exposed ur bias.
For the record,the Catholic church or more correctly,Catholic-owned educational institutions do not discriminate in intake of students based on faith profession,all is based on merit.
There's no link to this ur fairy-tale,so no way to ask the author to provide more details for one to take it up from there.
By the way,Obi,Ngige,Obiano et al are all Catholics,so where u got ur Anambra Catholic v Anglican nonsense is what I don't know.

eldoradoxx: Hehehehehehe. I ve never missed or failed to predict politically. I hate GEJ just like you, didn't vote for him in 2011 nor intend to in 2015 nor love APC. I am neutral here. But am telling you the brutal truth. All odds favour GEJ. He doesn't need to win in 36 States to be President. APC's best chance is Buhari, but like Omisore, Buhari has a stain that has refused to go away eventhough I know he stands better chances only in NE and NW. Be civil brother, you don't need to insult. Not everyone here is a tout nor low life like you. By the way you talk I can predict who you are.

Tout?.Lowlife?.You do not want to go down that lane,I bet u.
It really annoys me when scunnering muc such as u presumes to know the mind of and speak for a people and land u know nothing about.
Campaign for Jonathan all u will on nairaland,but do not make such claims on our behalf again.
Btw,who do u think I am?.A futret like you?

eldoradoxx: While GEJ is sure of winning up to 80 to 90% of votes cast in SE and SS naturally, is there any candidate that is sure of atleast winning 50 % of total votes cast in Kano and Lagos in 2015 ?

Where the hell did u get your 80-90% nonsense from?.
Misbegotten-son-of-nama,u just sit in the comfort of ur home somewhere in abuja or Lagos n type any rubbish u like.As things stand now,GEJ is not winning 50% of Igbo votes unless there's some drastic change between now n February.

36hrs/day.
Nnewi,Anambra state.
Improvement?.Not in a million light years

PhockPhockMan: Mind you, the panel cleared the wrong man. Al Makura will be impeached before the election, before any court will make any pronouncement, the election is over.

1diot!
The Nassarawa Assembly can't start a new process based on the same allegations that have been struck out by the panel.U can't try a man twice on same offence.Go grow some brain,child.

OrlandoOwoh: Why didn't Ojukwu stay back to distabilize the British plan, but opted to go and "seek peace?" Biafra could not sustain the war after they had lost their soldiers and even started recruiting old men. Go read Chukwuemeka Ike's Sunset at Dawn.

A novel set during the war is your authority?.
Aye eni fi kini yi se e,ko ni da fun.Ka jere