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FakeNEWSevryday:So, I should keep quiet and allow the media to push whatever narrative suits their agenda while people spread misinformation without verification? Dey play. Yesterday, I searched through several reputable news platforms, when they are asking for the quotes and none of them used the date from last year, they all carried the June 2nd, this year version. Yet many people were quick to accept and circulate it as if it had just happened. What I find interesting is that if Pastor Adeboye were to make a statement that fits a certain narrative, it would be everywhere within hours. But when he speaks about issues affecting the peace, unity, and security of Nigeria, many of those same platforms suddenly go silent. Abi, how do you explain the fact that he made the statement over 8 months ago, yet 100% of users of this thread were unaware of it? No single person is aware of it. This is exactly why people should verify facts before rushing to conclusions. A claim does not become true simply because it is repeated by many people. BTW, your name says it all.😂 |
BlueRayDick:Well, I'm not the one who posted what you quoted above, and the question you're asking has already been answered by Potvalor. |
Potvalor:Thank you for this screenshot. I have been searching for it, but all I could find was the recent one. Now everyone can see that the statement was actually made last year. Thanks |
Ellexy:I don't think you understand the question I was responding to. The over 1 million people who were at the camp ground or watched the programme online already know what Pastor Adeboye said. The problem is with the over 200 million Nigerians who neither attended nor watched and therefore depend on the media for information. When the media fails to report such statements, it fails those people, leaving them uninformed and vulnerable to false narratives. As a result, the 1 million people who witnessed the statement firsthand end up arguing with the remaining 200 million Nigerians, who may see them as liars or overly defensive simply because the media failed to tell them. |
Ellexy: ![]() You mean the Holy Ghost Service that is viewed and streamed by millions of people at home and abroad? |
rabazamba:I just posted a corresponding report on the issue. The statement was actually made last year, but the media failed to give it proper coverage because it did not fit the narrative they wanted to promote. |
If you need the link https://www.nairaland.com/8684418/obi-youths-dont-expect-adeboye |
The second part
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I think I have waited long enough, over 2 hrs now, Since Izzou and Raybluedick asked for evidence of Pastor Adeboye's statement, I provided the post they requested. Since then, there has been no response from either of them. To be honest, I wasn't expecting one, because it is difficult to argue against facts. Interestingly, there is currently a topic on Nairaland's front page now, where Peter Obi cautioned young people about comments attributed to Pastor Adeboye and advised them to verify every claim before accepting it as truth. That is what I have been saying here now for the past 24hrs Moreso, Mike Bamiloye also stated that Pastor Adeboye gave the security ultimatum as far back as last year, yet not a single major media outlet reported it. This is why it is important to verify information for yourself rather than relying solely on headlines or popular narratives. I have said it here before, the media will often give you what they know you want to hear, but not what you need to know. Facts remain facts, whether the media chooses to amplify them or ignore them.
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chrisooblog:Thank you👌 He has said that his own duty to preach the Kingdom of God and win millions of souls for God. If he fails in that aspect and anyone can criticizes him, on that basis, I would understand. Moreso, he has repeatedly stated that he has advised those in government on several occasions, and he does not have the power to compel them to implement his recommendations. At the end of the day, giving advice is one thing, and doing it is another. |
rabazamba:well, if you care to know, it was last year. |
BlueRayDick:ok
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izzou:Yes, they likely know where they are. The challenge is that they cannot simply use force, because the lives of those children at risk. The priority is to secure their safe release, last last na ransome dem go pay. |
BlueRayDick:Can you show me where he specifically criticized Jonathan so that we can compare it with what he has said about the current administration? Your time starts now... |
TemporaryHansel:How is Raumdeuter my mentor? Raum is Tinubu’s son, and I am not. |
BlueRayDick:I have said it before in my earlier post, if calling the government's attention to insecurity, kidnapping, and insurgency is considered criticism under Government A, then the same should also be regarded as criticism under Government B. The standard must be applied consistently. We cannot define the same action as criticism when it concerns one administration and then redefine it as mere advice when it concerns another. If the act is the same, the standard of judgment should be the same. |
BlueRayDick:LMAO ![]() The man has said repeatedly that God did not call him to be a politician but a preacher whose primary assignment is to win souls. Yet, people keep dragging him into political debates and demanding that he act like an opposition politician. He has also consistently maintained that his duty toward those in government is to pray for them and advise them when necessary. Whether people agree with that approach or not is a different matter entirely. My reason for engaging in this discussion is simply to correct the false narrative surrounding him. Some people claim that Pastor Adeboye constantly criticized Jonathan's administration and even led protests against him, but we now know that these claims are false. Many have believed these stories for so long that a musician even released a song based on the narrative that he was vocal and actively opposed Jonathan's government, and postested against him but has remained silent today. Yet, when the facts are examined, there is not a shred of evidence to support those allegations. At least now, people can see how media narratives and repeated claims can shape public perception, even when the underlying facts are weak or nonexistent. By now, many people on this platform have seen that the popular narrative being circulated is not entirely accurate. Shikena. |
izzou:This is exactly the double standard we are talking about. There was insecurity during Jonathan's administration, and when Pastor Adeboye petitioned Jonathan over it, that was considered criticism. There is insecurity during Tinubu administration, and Pastor Adeboye not only raise concerns but reportedly gave the government a 90day ultimatum to address the situation. Yet suddenly, that is no longer considered criticism. How can the same action be called criticism in one case and not criticism in another? If publicly calling attention to insecurity and demanding action from a government is criticism under Jonathan, then the same standard should apply under Tinubu. If it is not criticism under Tinubu, then it was not criticism under Jonathan either. |
izzou:Are you saying you're not aware of the news that has dominated media space this week, even though the statement was actually made last year? |
TemporaryHansel:😂😂😂 The funny thing is that Pastor Adeboye has already criticized this administration and raised concerns about insecurity since last year, but the media kept it away from you because it did not fit the narrative many people wanted to push. The media gives people what they want to hear, not what they need to know. The way and manner he criticized Jonathan over insecurity, he has also criticized Tinubu over insecurity and even issued him a 90days ultimatum to find a lasting solution to kidnapping and insurgency. That happened last year ooo, but the media kept it away from you. Two months ago, he was advising his children on who to marry and who not to marry, and that story dominated the media space for almost a week. Which of these issues is more important to our national interest? So media gave you the one you wanted to hear and kept away the one you needed to know far away from you. |
Potvalor:It's good that you checked for yourself and I commend you for that. I was on Twitter yesterday and was surprised at how even people who are considered educated or influential can be misled by misinformation spread by a few individuals. It's unfortunate how easily false narratives gain traction today. Many people accept claims without taking the time to verify them, and repeated misinformation often ends up being treated as fact. The meme below illustrates this perfectly how media is messing with people's life.
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Potvalor:So you've been misled too? If I tell you that the s 90day ultimatum was not issued this year, would that surprise you? Pastor Adeboye gave Tinubu the 90 day ultimatum last year, yet no single media reported it. Even the most important part of the message was largely ignored. You are free to believe whatever you choose, but it's always wise to verify claims before accepting them as facts. Not everything circulating online tells the full story. I know this may come as a surprise to you, but that is exactly why fact checking is important. |
BlueRayDick:Goalpost shifting is allowed. Even a Primary 3 student will understand what the word "vocal" means in the context of your statement. You said: "Pastor Adeboye was vocal against the last two administrations when things weren't looking good."Yet, the evidence presented shows that he spoke publicly about insecurity only once during Jonathan 6year administration. You also said: "Perhaps you think it is okay for him to keep quiet now when he has been vocal in the past."But Pastor Adeboye has also spoken during this Tinubu's administration once in less than 3 years of his administration So how does speaking once in 6 years qualify as being "vocal," while speaking once in less than 3 years is considered "keeping quiet"? |
BlueRayDick:You are actually proving my point rather than disproving it. No one is denying that Pastor Adeboye occasionally commented on national issues. The statement you quoted was made in the context of rising insecurity, and as a religious leader, he had every right to express concern about the safety of Nigerians. The real question is about your claim, and I quote "Pastor Adeboye was vocal against the last two administrations when things weren't looking good." So far, one statement on insecurity in 6 years does not establish that he was "vocal." Even in the example you cited, the focus was insecurity and the protection of lives, not a sustained political campaign against Jonathan's government. And during Buhari's administration, he spoke out only twice. How can someone who made public comments just 3 times in 14 years be described as vocal? That is the point I am making. |
BlueRayDick:What is the difference between Twitter and Nairaland? Many people on both platforms, especially some younger users, tend to accept fake news hook line and sinker without verifying them. this thread in particular.Is A40 not on this thread as well? He was the one who asked the question, and I simply responded to it. I don't see anybody forcing Tribal narrative into it here, rather people are seeing it from the lens of Pastor Adeboye not speaking up because Remi Tinubu is a pastor in RCCG. And there's also pictures of Pastor Adeboye eating with Tinubu's family online.And you fell for that? If a former governor visits my house and dines with me, how does that become a crime? ... and more so this particular photograph being circulated is almost 20 years old. I already explain the context of the whole thing stemming from mix-up in the timeline of events. It is majorly about Pastor Adeboye being vocal against the last 2 administrations when things weren't looking good.Perhaps you are confusing Pastor Adeboye with Pastor Tunde Bakare. Pastor Adeboye has never been particularly vocal against past administrations. For the record, he spoke publicly about insecurity only once during Goodluck Jonathan's 6 year administration, twice during Buhari's administration on his 8 years reign, on the issues relating to EndsarS and insecurity, and once during Tinubu's administration in the last two years. So where exactly is this claim that he was consistently vocal against previous governments? People are always against the truth, and If you believe otherwise, can you provide verifiable facts and evidence to support it? |
BlueRayDick:How is this not false information? People are forcing a tribal narrative onto the issue. Go on Twitter and see for yourself. They claim that Pastor Adeboye protested during the administration of Goodluck Jonathan because he was from the South-South, but refuses to protest now because President Tinubu is from his own region. These are the kinds of false narratives that flood the internet. They spread so often that many people accept them without verifying the facts. It even got to the point where Eedris Abdulkareem released a song promoting this narrative, to mislead gullible people. |
A40:Can you provide credible facts or evidence to support this claim? In this age of the internet and easy access to information. it's surprising that many people like you still spread false information without verifying the facts. |
BeeBeeOoh:You see pastor Adeboye in Occupy Nigeria? There is a place where God has prepared for all liars and those who bear false witnesses |
Penguin2:If you can support your statement with facts, then you have a point. Pastor Adeboye never protested against any president. The problem is that many people believe and spread fake news without checking the facts. That's how Eedris Abdulkareem's claim in his song that Adeboye protested against Jonathan ended up deceiving a lot of gullible people like you. |
I'm surprised that this came as a surprise news. How many Spanish players dey for Madrid first eleven? |
Sportsweb:😂😂😂 Even if Rice pays tithes of Vitinha’s completed passes, he’s still owing ![]()
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Ibime:it should be 2, kepa na jeje boy, but that mumudueke and Havert, especially that madueke |
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