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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 12:14pm On Jun 05
FakeNEWSevryday:
So, it turns out that MorataFC was right all along, every piece of news should be verified before people rush to conclusions. I have always known that fake news spreads rapidly in Nigeria. In fact, if you look at my moniker, it says, "Fake News Every Day," and I have been using it for over ten years.

As for Morata, if you do not have evidence to support your claims, it is better to keep quiet. It was Potvalor who saved your ass by providing the proof.

But don't forget: Fake News Every Day. angry lipsrsealed cry
So, I should keep quiet and allow the media to push whatever narrative suits their agenda while people spread misinformation without verification? Dey play.

Yesterday, I searched through several reputable news platforms, when they are asking for the quotes and none of them used the date from last year, they all carried the June 2nd, this year version. Yet many people were quick to accept and circulate it as if it had just happened.

What I find interesting is that if Pastor Adeboye were to make a statement that fits a certain narrative, it would be everywhere within hours. But when he speaks about issues affecting the peace, unity, and security of Nigeria, many of those same platforms suddenly go silent. Abi, how do you explain the fact that he made the statement over 8 months ago, yet 100% of users of this thread were unaware of it? No single person is aware of it.

This is exactly why people should verify facts before rushing to conclusions. A claim does not become true simply because it is repeated by many people.

BTW, your name says it all.😂
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 7:16pm On Jun 04
BlueRayDick:
Since I've figured he may be RCCG member, I just decided to let him be and not push it further. He spent the whole day trying to change the direction of the discourse. The ask was simple : "Show a post where Adeboye criticized this administration last year"

Instead he is showing us:

Why should I bother myself to continue the conversation ? When he actually thinks the above is one and same with Adeboye writing a strong worded petition to Jonathan, threatening to carry out a protest and even going about to collect signature of members who desire to participate in the protest?
Well, I'm not the one who posted what you quoted above, and the question you're asking has already been answered by Potvalor.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 6:52pm On Jun 04
Potvalor:
1st Image: Even Punch News carried the story as if it was a recent gist.
2nd and 3rd Image: Older publications of the same story in Nov 2025.
9ja Media should do better with all this recycling of older stories (including images and videos) as new ones.
Thank you for this screenshot. I have been searching for it, but all I could find was the recent one. Now everyone can see that the statement was actually made last year.
Thanks
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC:
Ellexy:
So you didn't know it was streamed by millions of people when you were accusing the media of not amplifying what he said then?
I don't think you understand the question I was responding to.

The over 1 million people who were at the camp ground or watched the programme online already know what Pastor Adeboye said. The problem is with the over 200 million Nigerians who neither attended nor watched and therefore depend on the media for information. When the media fails to report such statements, it fails those people, leaving them uninformed and vulnerable to false narratives. As a result, the 1 million people who witnessed the statement firsthand end up arguing with the remaining 200 million Nigerians, who may see them as liars or overly defensive simply because the media failed to tell them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 5:28pm On Jun 04
Ellexy:
Is it the Tinubu controlled media that you're referring to or the opposition led media [/b] cos I could argue they deliberately failed to amplify it so it won't make Tinubu look bad that Pst Adeboye is questioning his handling of insecurity.
grin
You mean the Holy Ghost Service that is viewed and streamed by millions of people at home and abroad?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 5:13pm On Jun 04
rabazamba:
Sorry but can you show the date for actual reference purposes thank you kind sir, because my own is carrying a different date
I just posted a corresponding report on the issue. The statement was actually made last year, but the media failed to give it proper coverage because it did not fit the narrative they wanted to promote.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 5:10pm On Jun 04
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 5:08pm On Jun 04
The second part

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 5:08pm On Jun 04
I think I have waited long enough, over 2 hrs now, Since Izzou and Raybluedick asked for evidence of Pastor Adeboye's statement, I provided the post they requested. Since then, there has been no response from either of them. To be honest, I wasn't expecting one, because it is difficult to argue against facts.

Interestingly, there is currently a topic on Nairaland's front page now, where Peter Obi cautioned young people about comments attributed to Pastor Adeboye and advised them to verify every claim before accepting it as truth. That is what I have been saying here now for the past 24hrs

Moreso, Mike Bamiloye also stated that Pastor Adeboye gave the security ultimatum as far back as last year, yet not a single major media outlet reported it. This is why it is important to verify information for yourself rather than relying solely on headlines or popular narratives.

I have said it here before, the media will often give you what they know you want to hear, but not what you need to know.

Facts remain facts, whether the media chooses to amplify them or ignore them.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 3:31pm On Jun 04
chrisooblog:
Personally I think at the end of the day criticizing religious leaders for government failings (as much as is your right) is misplaced priority.

Is Adeboye, Kumuyi, Mbaka, or the Sultan of Sokoto the President of Nigeria? Are they in charge of the Army or Police?

You might say lending powerful voices might help the situation but how far can powerful voices really go if those in charge don't do the right thing. Michelle Obama held up BBOG placard that year are they all back?

Adeboye has generally always stayed in his lane when dealing with various Presidents over the years. From Obj, to Yar Adua, Goodluck, and Buhari I can't recall Adeboye explicitly addressing them directly on any failing of their government.

You might not agree with his stance which is fair enough but criticizing him for an action which he has consistently displayed since 1999 is over the top.
Thank you👌

He has said that his own duty to preach the Kingdom of God and win millions of souls for God. If he fails in that aspect and anyone can criticizes him, on that basis, I would understand.
Moreso, he has repeatedly stated that he has advised those in government on several occasions, and he does not have the power to compel them to implement his recommendations. At the end of the day, giving advice is one thing, and doing it is another.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 3:09pm On Jun 04
rabazamba:
Na last year abi na last week grin
well, if you care to know, it was last year.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 3:03pm On Jun 04
BlueRayDick:
I have showed you what he said, I shared the link here, izzou quoted it yesterday....Check ur mentions it is still there.

You are the one who has shown us anything Adeboye said to criticize Tinubu's government.

Why are you scared of dropping link of quoting the post here ?
ok

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:54pm On Jun 04
izzou:
Is there any proof that they know where they are currently?
Yes, they likely know where they are. The challenge is that they cannot simply use force, because the lives of those children at risk. The priority is to secure their safe release, last last na ransome dem go pay.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:39pm On Jun 04
BlueRayDick:
We are waiting for you to share link to Adeboye criticizing Tinubu's administration. All this "Ali is a boy, Simbi is a girl" is not we expect to see.
Can you show me where he specifically criticized Jonathan so that we can compare it with what he has said about the current administration?

Your time starts now...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:19pm On Jun 04
TemporaryHansel:
You didn't tell us you have enrolled at raumdeuter's amala turning academy.

Instead of providing the links izzou asked for you're just giving us epistle upon epistle, you really learned well from your mentor Raumdeuter.
How is Raumdeuter my mentor?
Raum is Tinubu’s son, and I am not.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:14pm On Jun 04
BlueRayDick:
Thank you for your service! 🫡👮

I thought u will end this post with link to Adeboye's criticism of this current administration as requested by popular demand 🤷‍♂️
I have said it before in my earlier post, if calling the government's attention to insecurity, kidnapping, and insurgency is considered criticism under Government A, then the same should also be regarded as criticism under Government B.
The standard must be applied consistently. We cannot define the same action as criticism when it concerns one administration and then redefine it as mere advice when it concerns another. If the act is the same, the standard of judgment should be the same.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 1:43pm On Jun 04
BlueRayDick:
Lmao 😂.
I sense Morata is probably a member of RCCG
He knows that so called advise by Adeboye won't cut it, that's why he was shying away from posting it and just wanted to use "ògbójú" to dabaru everything till u hold am for neck grin
LMAO grin

The man has said repeatedly that God did not call him to be a politician but a preacher whose primary assignment is to win souls. Yet, people keep dragging him into political debates and demanding that he act like an opposition politician.

He has also consistently maintained that his duty toward those in government is to pray for them and advise them when necessary. Whether people agree with that approach or not is a different matter entirely.

My reason for engaging in this discussion is simply to correct the false narrative surrounding him. Some people claim that Pastor Adeboye constantly criticized Jonathan's administration and even led protests against him, but we now know that these claims are false.

Many have believed these stories for so long that a musician even released a song based on the narrative that he was vocal and actively opposed Jonathan's government, and postested against him but has remained silent today. Yet, when the facts are examined, there is not a shred of evidence to support those allegations.

At least now, people can see how media narratives and repeated claims can shape public perception, even when the underlying facts are weak or nonexistent. By now, many people on this platform have seen that the popular narrative being circulated is not entirely accurate.

Shikena.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 11:51am On Jun 04
izzou:
My brother, don't do this, abeg!

Like I said, I am not trying to argue with you. I am very convinced that Adeboye has never criticized this administration. Emphasis on CRITICIZE (We can look up the meaning in the dictionary if you want)

You said he has criticized this administration last year. These were your own words.

Just show me where he CRITICIZED THIS ADMINISTRATION.

Don't bother about what I heard or saw. Just put the link here.

Thank you, my Chief
This is exactly the double standard we are talking about.
There was insecurity during Jonathan's administration, and when Pastor Adeboye petitioned Jonathan over it, that was considered criticism.
There is insecurity during Tinubu administration, and Pastor Adeboye not only raise concerns but reportedly gave the government a 90day ultimatum to address the situation. Yet suddenly, that is no longer considered criticism.
How can the same action be called criticism in one case and not criticism in another?

If publicly calling attention to insecurity and demanding action from a government is criticism under Jonathan, then the same standard should apply under Tinubu. If it is not criticism under Tinubu, then it was not criticism under Jonathan either.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 11:24am On Jun 04
izzou:
I'm trying to learn and free my mind of any propaganda

Kindly show us where he criticized this administration last year.
Are you saying you're not aware of the news that has dominated media space this week, even though the statement was actually made last year?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 9:36am On Jun 04
TemporaryHansel:
What exactly is the point of all these argument you've been having with blueraydick and co since yesterday, is it that you're against people calling on him to criticize the current government or to lead protest? Him mates no dey lead protests for abroad?

Whether he didn't actually lead a protest against GEJ is irrelevant, he was criticizing him seriously which is not bad, people are just saying he should extend the same gesture to this administration which deserves the criticism as much as, if not even more than the GEJ administration.
😂😂😂

The funny thing is that Pastor Adeboye has already criticized this administration and raised concerns about insecurity since last year, but the media kept it away from you because it did not fit the narrative many people wanted to push.
The media gives people what they want to hear, not what they need to know.

The way and manner he criticized Jonathan over insecurity, he has also criticized Tinubu over insecurity and even issued him a 90days ultimatum to find a lasting solution to kidnapping and insurgency. That happened last year ooo, but the media kept it away from you.

Two months ago, he was advising his children on who to marry and who not to marry, and that story dominated the media space for almost a week.
Which of these issues is more important to our national interest?

So media gave you the one you wanted to hear and kept away the one you needed to know far away from you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 8:56pm On Jun 03
Potvalor:
Sorry my bad, fake news na serious issue for 9ja media space. You're right, just checked and can confirm that the 90 days ultimatum mesaage was actually an old recycled news from November 2025 (related to the Trump's government initial threat to 9ja during the Christian genocide discussion). This probably strengthens the earlier argument that Pa Adeboye "seems more lenient" towards Tinubu government insecurity crisis over Jonathan cos reading the full transcript it seems more like a friendly advice than criticism compared to the Jonathan's transcript of 2010 Independence message and the rumored planned of a protest (even though it didn't later happen). Just my opinion though.

P.S.: I am not even interested in the whole argument. I only decided to drop a comment because you were accusing others of the same bias your posts showed.
It's good that you checked for yourself and I commend you for that.
I was on Twitter yesterday and was surprised at how even people who are considered educated or influential can be misled by misinformation spread by a few individuals. It's unfortunate how easily false narratives gain traction today. Many people accept claims without taking the time to verify them, and repeated misinformation often ends up being treated as fact.

The meme below illustrates this perfectly how media is messing with people's life.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 7:10pm On Jun 03
Potvalor:
9ja politics will always be agenda-driven in the eyes of differing groups, so no need for pot calling kettle black here. All that matter is that the call-outs and online backlash eventually yielded a positive result (the 90-days ultimatum message) so at the end it was a net-positive thing.
So you've been misled too?
If I tell you that the s 90day ultimatum was not issued this year, would that surprise you?
Pastor Adeboye gave Tinubu the 90 day ultimatum last year, yet no single media reported it. Even the most important part of the message was largely ignored.

You are free to believe whatever you choose, but it's always wise to verify claims before accepting them as facts. Not everything circulating online tells the full story.
I know this may come as a surprise to you, but that is exactly why fact checking is important.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 4:47pm On Jun 03
BlueRayDick:
Define what the word "vocal" means to you.
Goalpost shifting is allowed.

Even a Primary 3 student will understand what the word "vocal" means in the context of your statement.

You said:

"Pastor Adeboye was vocal against the last two administrations when things weren't looking good."
Yet, the evidence presented shows that he spoke publicly about insecurity only once during Jonathan 6year administration.

You also said:

"Perhaps you think it is okay for him to keep quiet now when he has been vocal in the past."
But Pastor Adeboye has also spoken during this Tinubu's administration once in less than 3 years of his administration

So how does speaking once in 6 years qualify as being "vocal," while speaking once in less than 3 years is considered "keeping quiet"?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 3:18pm On Jun 03
BlueRayDick:
I don't why you are being unnecessarily defensive here. I posted a link to what Adeboye said about Jonathan's government already. Below is excerpt of his opinion about Jonathan's government in 2010.



He didn't just say the above, he actually sent a petition to Jonathan and collected signature of RCCG members who planned to join in the proposed protest.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/10/kidnapping-rccg-petitions-jonathan-to-stage-one-million-man-protest/

I'm not confusing Adeboye for anybody, you are the one reading my post with something else in your mind.
You are actually proving my point rather than disproving it.

No one is denying that Pastor Adeboye occasionally commented on national issues.
The statement you quoted was made in the context of rising insecurity, and as a religious leader, he had every right to express concern about the safety of Nigerians.

The real question is about your claim, and I quote "Pastor Adeboye was vocal against the last two administrations when things weren't looking good."

So far, one statement on insecurity in 6 years does not establish that he was "vocal."

Even in the example you cited, the focus was insecurity and the protection of lives, not a sustained political campaign against Jonathan's government.

And during Buhari's administration, he spoke out only twice. How can someone who made public comments just 3 times in 14 years be described as vocal?

That is the point I am making.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 2:22pm On Jun 03
BlueRayDick:
There are all sorts of character on Twitter. We are talking about Nairaland ,
What is the difference between Twitter and Nairaland? Many people on both platforms, especially some younger users, tend to accept fake news hook line and sinker without verifying them.


this thread in particular.
Is A40 not on this thread as well? He was the one who asked the question, and I simply responded to it.

I don't see anybody forcing Tribal narrative into it here, rather people are seeing it from the lens of Pastor Adeboye not speaking up because Remi Tinubu is a pastor in RCCG. And there's also pictures of Pastor Adeboye eating with Tinubu's family online.
And you fell for that? If a former governor visits my house and dines with me, how does that become a crime?
... and more so this particular photograph being circulated is almost 20 years old.

I already explain the context of the whole thing stemming from mix-up in the timeline of events. It is majorly about Pastor Adeboye being vocal against the last 2 administrations when things weren't looking good.

Perhaps you think it is okay for him to keep quiet now when he has been vocal in the past.
Perhaps you are confusing Pastor Adeboye with Pastor Tunde Bakare. Pastor Adeboye has never been particularly vocal against past administrations. For the record, he spoke publicly about insecurity only once during Goodluck Jonathan's 6 year administration, twice during Buhari's administration on his 8 years reign, on the issues relating to EndsarS and insecurity, and once during Tinubu's administration in the last two years.

So where exactly is this claim that he was consistently vocal against previous governments?
People are always against the truth, and If you believe otherwise, can you provide verifiable facts and evidence to support it?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 12:06pm On Jun 03
BlueRayDick:
I don't think it's an outright deliberate spread of false information per se, rather I think there was a mix-up over time in the roles Pastor Adeboye played and how vocal he was under past administrations.
How is this not false information?

People are forcing a tribal narrative onto the issue. Go on Twitter and see for yourself. They claim that Pastor Adeboye protested during the administration of Goodluck Jonathan because he was from the South-South, but refuses to protest now because President Tinubu is from his own region.

These are the kinds of false narratives that flood the internet. They spread so often that many people accept them without verifying the facts. It even got to the point where Eedris Abdulkareem released a song promoting this narrative, to mislead gullible people.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by MorataFC: 10:59am On Jun 03
A40:
Didn't he protest against Jonathan in his 70s?
Can you provide credible facts or evidence to support this claim? In this age of the internet and easy access to information.
it's surprising that many people like you still spread false information without verifying the facts.
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Denies Claims Pastor Adeboye Backed Protest Or Political Candidate by MorataFC: 6:47pm On Jun 02
BeeBeeOoh:
You mean Buhari was the president of Nigeria in 2012 when they(Adeboye, Tunde Bakare, Tinubu and Wole Soyinka) was the forefront leaders of "Occupy Nigeria"?
You see pastor Adeboye in Occupy Nigeria?
There is a place where God has prepared for all liars and those who bear false witnesses
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Denies Claims Pastor Adeboye Backed Protest Or Political Candidate by MorataFC: 6:37pm On Jun 02
Penguin2:
Forget Cho Cho Cho …

You constantly issued statements against Jonathan; asking him to resign.

You protested against Buhari.

Why have you suddenly gone mute now?

Whitlow hold you for mouth?
If you can support your statement with facts, then you have a point. Pastor Adeboye never protested against any president. The problem is that many people believe and spread fake news without checking the facts. That's how Eedris Abdulkareem's claim in his song that Adeboye protested against Jonathan ended up deceiving a lot of gullible people like you.
Sports › Re: Spain’s World Cup Squad Has No Real Madrid Players, Is This A Scandal? by MorataFC: 6:27pm On Jun 02
I'm surprised that this came as a surprise news.
How many Spanish players dey for Madrid first eleven?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 9:15pm On May 30
Sportsweb:
Vitinha completed 141 passes out of 152


Declan Rice completed 31 pases out of 41
😂😂😂

Even if Rice pays tithes of Vitinha’s completed passes, he’s still owing
grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by MorataFC: 8:55pm On May 30
Ibime:
Was almost feeling sorry for Arsenal . . . till I remembered the 3 snakes
it should be 2, kepa na jeje boy, but that mumudueke and Havert, especially that madueke

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