₦airaland Forum

hayzed1090:
Dont mind those hypocrites .. imagine a gubernatorial candidate in abia states that speaks Yoruba fluently and can’t speak Igbo

That guy can’t speak Yoruba not because he doesn’t have the capability and capacity to learn but simply out of his hatred for the Yoruba culture.

I know a couple of full blooded Yoruba friends he went to school with abroad who also can't speak Yoruba fluently.

They too must not be Yoruba?

Is Giannis Atemtokumbo a Yoruba?

What about Kemi Badenoch?

PulaPower:
GRV’s family are also returnee but they don’t have a Yoruba heritage..

So none of their son's married Yoruba women and they have the audacity to name their son Gbadebo.

Can you list their family tree here to prove their non Yoruba lineage or heritage?

Christlike01:
Do you have any issues with the internet regarding what you want to know? Look, I have no time for this pointless back-and-forth with you or anyone else. I have made my point: if you care so much for the man, you can elect him as the next governor of your state.

You won't receive any further replies from me on this.

Its because you cannot defend your position that is why you seek to run away. Simply post evidence so we can examine is hard assignment for you yet you have time to yap here about one person all day.

Empty tribalist barrels make the most noise.

I see you for what you are.

PulaPower:
The Cardoso’s family are Yoruba. Cardoso’s family are of brazilian-Yoruba descent from Lagos State.

They have their heritage here

IF he is Yoruba of Brazilian- Yoruba heritage. I then ask what is GRV in the same context?

Christlike01:
Okay, e jo lo fe ro, continue! You must really think that we have short memories here, right? You think we have forgotten his position regarding IPOB, right? Remind me, who represented us with an image of a goat shouting 'afonjaaaa' on his X handle? His parents were married, and so? What does that even mean? If you love him that much, you can vote for him in your own state as your governor, okay?

So you believe he is an Igbo sympathizer and once elected will advocate for the overthrow of Yoruba rule in Lagos and usher in the domination of the Ibos?

Can you post those positions on IPOB and this so called image OF a goat for us to examine cause we need context my brilliant Yoruba patriot?

Christlike01:
The reason is that simple— a bas.tard! Same as who you called "sabo" in your land,

But his parents were married therefore you are telling lies.

Christlike01:
You guys won't stop playing with fire until it begins to burn your hands. It’s now your business to determine who is a Lagosian and who is not, right? What if I tell you that GRV is from Lagos, but we won’t put him in Alausa as our governor? He won’t govern Lagos. What do you have to say to that, man? Will you impose him on us, or what?

Can you articulate the reasons why GRV is disqualifed from governing you apart from the fact that he "doesn't think in Yoruba"?

Christlike01:
See, you have the right to hold whatever opinions you have in your heart, but one thing is certain: you guys won’t dictate to us who should run or govern our state. You can shove your sermon about tribal and religious sentiments down your throat because it won’t change anything—I’m a proud 'Ronu'. I guess you know what that means.

i think most people are just puzzled about the reasons why an indigene, born and raised with Yoruba heritage is disqualified from becoming a governor ?

UrVillageChief:
You are being ignored now my friend. Maybe you should go and ask your elders at home. A Yoruba man was the first visionary who tried to add this very secession clause into our constitution but guess who jeopardized that move?🤣

Exactly my point. The agenda by the west was never to be a unified entity so why are you turning around claiming Nigerian now when in reality your elders wanted no such thing and why are you arguing with people who want to make it a reality when in practice it is already that.

I don't understand?

UrVillageChief:
Una go cry tire. We die hia.
Your forefathers fought to have this one-Nigeria and one of them even made the call for secession a treasonable offense punishable by death but today, as fate is having it, his children are the ones calling for the same secession. Yes, I place my being Yorubaness ahead of being Nigerian. Any problem with that?

If you place your Yoruba-ness above the nation then why are you existing within an entity that you have no regard for.

Just asking?

UrVillageChief:
Yes o. That’s who we are. Anyone who wants the best for us is seen as a family and in fact, we rate an outsider who has the burning desire to join the family and who has our best interests at heart more than bastards whose only mission is to destroy the progressive family. [/qujote]
So how did GRV seek to destroy the progressive family?

Enlighten me please?

[quote author=UrVillageChief post=140807196]Yemi Cardoso is a real Yoruba man not only by the virtue of his being a real Yoruba lagosian but also by the fact that he thinks and talks in Yoruba. Gbarebo doesn’t. Gbarebo should go and contest in Anambra. Let’s hope you won’t Biancalize him🤣

So the real reason is his Igbo heritage?

I see.

You can't get anymore tribalist than that.

I rest my case.

UrVillageChief:
No, bro. I can only advocate for such in my country if the people I’m fighting for are equally sane and tolerant of others like those people from the UK (Scotland, Wales and England in this case)

So you have no country then and if so what is your true nationality?

UrVillageChief:
Forgive me, I know them when I see them because they think alike and I already know the pattern🤣

Not worth a response.

UrVillageChief:
Why would I try that when they don’t even tolerate one another?🤣
Are you whining me now? If they could do that to their own wife and daughter, Bianca, who the actual fck am I?🤣

So you are only brave when it comes to your ethnicity. I hear you?

UrVillageChief:
Sabotaging the growth of my own identity? How? The last time I checked, you were the ones who wanted out and in fact, you ignorantly thought I was the one who had the power to set you free. No, that’s the responsibility of your elected leaders and representatives. Call them out and ask them to resign immediately🤣

1.Every body wanted out of Nigeria my dear "Nigerian" brother. The Igbos were simply the only ones with the guts to actually take the step to do so.

2. I put it to you that you are not a Nigerian and never opted into that agreement with anyone but were copted into by others that made that decision for you.

3.The fact that an individual born and bred in a Yoruba state who's bloodline, heritage and lineage are attached to the land is castigated by his own kind simply because he carries some ancestry from a region you loathe speaks volumes of your Nigerianess. Please from this moment on stop calling yourself a Nigerian. You are definitely not one.

FSBoperator:
Arrant nonsense.

Ibos like yourself have no right to tell Yorubas who or what they can vote for as their governor.

Alas the tribalism shines through. The audacity to believe that I am Igbo simply highlights where the true sinister impetus of your responses come.

FSBoperator:
Have you seen anyone not from your state of region caring who you elect in that your state ?

As a Nigerian I would like to see indigenousness dropped entirely from governance but then again "Nigeria" is not really a country and you and I are simply fooling ourselves into believing so and I wonder why we even call ourselves such.

FSBoperator:
If you like GVR so much , then make him your next governor of Anambra where his mother is and wife are from.

Its not really about liking GVR or not. What I find disgusting about a so called open minded "tribe" of people is that they say one thing about their nature but in reality they are no different from the same ones they accuse of people tribal and bigoted.

UrVillageChief:
Yes, he is Yoruba by the virtue of his being a lover of the Yoruba race and due to the open nature of the Yorubas. Remember, most of those who had governed Lagos aren’t even Lagosians (Omo Eko)

So by your criteria, if A calabar man named Etim Iyang who grew up in Lagos and speaks fluent Yoruba and a lover of the Yoruba race wants to to run for governor of Lagos and rule over you, would you be comfortable with that?

UrVillageChief:
So why not? If Yemi Cardoso speaks and thinks Yoruba, wouldn’t be shocked one bit if my people vote him en masse. That’s the Yorubas for you! A Yoruba man from Kogi had govern one particular state in the SW before and in fact, he is arguably the best person to have ever governed the state.
Due to the open nature of the Yorubas, many people don’t even know that most of the Yoruba-speaking actors in the nollywood aren’t Yorubas because they are never segregated. Many don’t even know that Remi Tinubu isn’t Yoruba (but Yoruba of course, by the virtue of marriage and because she thinks and talks in Yoruba) It is even considered highly inappropriate of me to say she isn’t Yoruba because that’s just not a Yoruba thing. A yoruba wife is 1000% Yoruba. Unlike some people, we won’t tell her she can’t represent us because it’s only her husband that’s a Yoruba man🤣

So Gbadebo is disqualified because he is of Yoruba heritage, Yoruba blood, Lives in Lagos, advocates for Lagosians but he doesn't "think" in Yoruba when he is dreaming so therefore he is not qualified to govern you.

I hear you my brother. Keep fooling yourself.

We all know the reason why you dislike him.

FSBoperator:
He is not of Yoruba ancestry.

He's family are returnee slaves with a very high probability that they are even Ibo .

The man himself has told the world that he doesn't see himself as a Yoruba man.

He should go to his ancestral Ibo land and contest there.

Alas your tribalism shines through.

Are tinubu's children from Oluremi tinubu Yoruba since she is of Itshekiri heritage?

Would you allow them to rule over you?

UrVillageChief:
Of course, an individual born in Scotland or Wales but who grows up in England can run for office in England because an English man from Chelsea can equally run for political offices in those places you mentioned.isn’t it just common sense that it’s a “vice-versa” thing?🤣

So shouldn't you be advocating for the same thing in your country Nigeria?

UrVillageChief:
Now I’m using your warped logic on you. I don’t even want to use people from other tribes. Eze, please can someone from Enugu run for political office in Abia or Anambra?🤣🤣 Will you tolerate it like the people from Scotland, Wales and England?
It works in the UK because culturally, it’s reciprocated but is that the reality in Eastern Nigeria?

1.The assumption that you are debating with an Igbo simply reveals your true tribalist nature permeating through your responses.

2. As a Nigerian who seeks to move the country forward shouldn't you be advocating for more non Igbos to run for office in the East and call their bluff?

UrVillageChief:
Again, on your last paragraph. Stop being ignorant. You never elected me to represent you in any capacity. So why are you holding me responsible for tying you down to one-Nigeria? Those who have that power to seek referendum and secession are your elected representatives. Tell them to abdicate their offices, return to the East and start demanding the secession. I’m not the cause of your frustration, they are!

But why are you a citizen or part of a so called Federalist country that you seek to divide by advocating for regional governance soley based on indigenousness. Are you also not part of the problem or do you hate one ethnic group so much that retaliating against them is actually sabotaging the growth of your own national identity.

As I said I weep for people like you. You are not Nigerian in as much as those advocating for Biafra are?

Stop fooling yourself.

PulaPower:
Different people all across tribes..

Within Nigeria & outside Nigeria..

So is Olayemi Cardoso a Yoruba man if he speaks Yoruba fluently?

FSBoperator:
He said he doesn't think in Yoruba .

He should go and contest for the governor of wherever his brains and heart is aligned to because Lagos is Yoruba land.

Yes because a man who has "Yoruba blood" running through his vains who schooled abroad most of his life but cannot speak the language has committed the ultimate sin and therefore cannot rule Yoruba people.

I pray for people like you.

UrVillageChief:
Yes, they are visitors and in fact, a Yoruba man from Ogun (for instance) is a visitor in Lagos and as such, he will never call himself “Omo Eko” rather, he will call himself “Ara Eko”.
If you were exposed and well-traveled, you would naturally know that living in a place doesn’t automatically give you the same rights as the real locals. A man from Liverpool can’t be considered native to London even if he had spent his whole life in Tottenham or Greenwich.

so in other words indigeneousness trumps citizenship right?

The individual born in Scotland or Wales but who grows up in England cannot run for office in England eh!

The individual born in Hawaii dear not run for office in Chicago eh!

The individual born in Kwazulu natal to a Xhosa mother dear not run for office in his province.

I here you Mr. well traveled Nigerian. You are just fooling yourself.

UrVillageChief:
Also, about your ignorance-filled last paragraph, I can’t do that for you. Only your elected representatives can. Tell your governors, senators and Reps to all resign and start demanding to have a referendum. They should stop collecting monies from the Nigeria they don’t want to be a part of. That’s how secession is achieved.

But in this same Nigeria that you are part of you can live in other parts of it but you cannot participate in the governance or affairs of that state/province/region.

You want to be a Yoruba before you are Nigerian. Tribal politics yet you believe this entity Nigeria will last the next 50 years.

Please stop fooling yourself. I don't need to call for any referendum, with people like you seperation is already a fact and reality.

UrVillageChief:
You see that last statement, if them born you well, go to Rivers, Kano or Abuja and tell the locals there that same thing since they are all cosmopolitan States just like Lagos🤣
I’m sure you won’t live to tell the tales of what they will do to you. Do I blame you lot? No, I blame the Yorubas for being over-welcoming. What’s even making this thing crazier and more upsetting is the fact that it’s being echoed by the same easterners who can’t take half of what they are demanding. Those who made it clear that an Enugu person would never rule in Anambra State. The same people that denied Bianca the opportunity to represent her late husband’s district just because she’s not from Anambra. Well, this is what you get when people don’t set boundaries. This is what happens when you allow visitors to have too much freedom. This is the same issues the white westerners are facing today in the hands of the Islamists. They are now demanding their own laws on another person’s land o🤣

Are other Nigerian's "visitors" in Lagos or anywhere in Nigeria for that matter and if so why do we have a country? You should be advocating for a confederacy or supporting Nnamdi Kanu for secession then.

FSBoperator:
No one will be dragging GVR over his inability to speak Yoruba

But since he has severally expressed his disdain for Yoruba culture by saying he doesn't think in Yoruba and giving that he has aligned with the no man's crew seeking to take over Lagos which they claimed to have developed and now own, why should any Yoruba person not see him for what he is - a treacherous hater of Yoruba people.

So if you don't think in Yoruba you can't be Yoruba.

Is Giannis Antemtokumbo a Yoruba.

Yes or no?

PulaPower:
Dude doesn’t have a Yoruba heritage. Don’t play. His family were returning slaves who ain’t Yoruba..

Not all the slaves that returned to Lagos back then were of Yoruba heritage. Some of them were not even Nigerians but all of them stayed & decided to be with us cuz they were welcomed thoroughly with love!

The Chinedu himself said he doesn’t think in Yoruba. He said it himself. He already spoke the truth. Why do you people always ignore this Angle?

See, I really don’t have a problem with the dude but there’s no need of lieing about his heritage. If Igbo people can be holding elective and government positions here, they can also become governor… It would have been very good for him, if he had just simply market himself as a breed mixture of Yor/Igbo. It would made more sense. Which one be… I don’t think in Yoruba?

Forget all these political gbas-gbos. Anybody that has something to offer can rule anywhere in Yoruba land… I intentionally used *Anybody* & not *Any Nigerians* cuz, e get some people for SW politics that are not even Nigerian and they’re doing well..

So who did these returnees marry when they came back and settled in Lagos?

IronGalaxy:
Dragging the convo even further..

You are not obligated to respond. Greater minds are at play here.

Here's another random thought to ponder on

How is it that a country with a greater proportion of African migrants is able to manage its migrant population without outbreaks of xenophobic violence and a civilized democratic economic top tier country like RSA is finding it difficult to do the same?

Could it be issues with the government, the governed and not really the size of immigrants in the country?

IronGalaxy:
Oh look who's talking

Lets put it in a different context for you smart South Africans.

10% (exaggerated number) of South African migrant population vs 9.5% of Cote d Ivoire migrant population.

What does this say about each countries ability to manage migration and Xenophobia?

IronGalaxy:
This is a waste of time

Yes it is. I am talking to people who have a one track mind.

IronGalaxy:
No. that's not what i said..
I said, South Africa has the highest African migrant documented population. Which is does. I then said, it's exponentially higher when you add the fact we have a lot of undocumented migrants..
Wtf is so hard to understand here? What is the back and forth for?

The exponentially higher part is the fibb and misdirection here.

We granted you an overly inflated number to accomodate your "undocumented migrants" by doubling the stats on ground and even after that the claim is still meaningless.

6 million(exaggerated number) so called immigrants juxtaposed against 65 million citizens. What does that say?

IronGalaxy:
Lol, its not true because you don't want it to be true..its a YOU problem.

but you said we didn't add the undocumented migrants plus if we are to go by these numbers, porportionately speaking the Ivory coast on an immigrant to Citizen ratio, would be worse off than you all in terms of managing resources for migrants.

See how math works?

IronGalaxy:
why would I say something without verifying?
Also, these are documented migrants, lets not forget. South Africans has way more than these numbers

This again is not true. We already granted your noisemakers an exaggerated number.

Here are the offical numbers documented and undocumented

https://southafricafacts.co.za/illegal-immigration-in-south-africa-where-things-stand-in-2026/

How many undocumented people are actually here
Estimates of South Africa's undocumented population have long been a political football, and the gap between the numbers thrown around at rallies and the numbers Statistics South Africa can actually defend is enormous. Stats SA's most recent survey puts the country's total immigrant population, documented and undocumented combined, at roughly 3.1 million people, or about 5.1% of the population.[1] That is far below the 15 to 30 million figure that some anti-immigration campaigners have circulated. It is, however, somewhat above the global average of about 3.7% of the world's population living outside their country of birth.[2]

Refugees and asylum seekers make up a small slice of that. The country hosts around 75,000 recognised refugees and 165,000 asylum seekers, a number that peaked back in 2015 and has been declining since.[1] None of this means undocumented migration is not a real issue for the country's institutions. It means the scale is smaller, and the picture more complicated, than the loudest voices on either side suggest.

IronGalaxy:
All I said is something you can easily Google on the net. What's stopping you from verifying what Im telling you? You are jumping up and down for nothing..

South Africa leads in African migration [it makes sense why that would be]
Followed by the Ivory coast...these are facts

I did verify it. South Africa stands in second place at a 4-5% overall migrant population in Africa but simply stating this without any context is equivalent to me stating I am the best high jumper in my school. Doesn't really mean anything without context now does it.

https://www.statssa.gov.za/?p=18042

https://worldmigrationreport.iom.int/what-we-do/world-migration-report-2026/chapter-3/africa

IronGalaxy:
I gave you the facts.. so there's nothing to attack..

All you said was South Africa has the "highest number of African immigrants" with no figures or context.

IronGalaxy:
I'm just watching you going up and down, trying to dispute what's fingertips aways from Google..

But then again, you deny the obvious. That's what you do to keep the convo going in circles..

Keep watching me you might learn a thing or two about numbers.

Here's another fact staring us in the face.

They are just flooding your prisons eh!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qUn3a4HICU

IronGalaxy:
Like I said, you'll fight tooth and nail denying the obvious.. that's what you do.. thats your modus operandi.. so it comes as no surprise

Ad hominem-Attack the facts not the person.

I can't go by "lived experiences", they are anecdotal.

IronGalaxy:
You can't possibly know what my brain is flooded by, kindly sit down.




South Africa has the highest mumber of African immigrants, FACT! the number becomes even exponential, when you add the undocumented ones.. your denial of this fact, is not my problem.. you're adept at denying the obvious

Several bodies have placed South Africa as number 2 in Africa with a 4-5%-documented and undocumented immigrant size and if I were to grant your noise makers an inflated number and doubled that percentage that would still be about 6 million migrants in total.

Juxtapose that to the 3rd highest country with refugees and immigrants i.e. Ivory coast in percentage and population ratios and you still do not have a valid argument.


Huff and puff all you want. Numbers don' t lie. That's how I know your brain is warped.

IronGalaxy:
Continue stroking your ego.. you excel in that department

The fact that your brain has constantly and continuously been flooded with negative images of "black immigrants" and warped your sense of a "lived reality" when the numbers don't support the conclusions has nothing to do with stroking my ego.

But hey I am not saying anything so what does that matter?

Goonnik:
This people no dey tire

The same people are also contributing to the economy of the country

https://www.gauteng.net/whats-on-g/20-best-nigerian-restaurants-in-gauteng/