₦airaland Forum

lindqvistbergst:
But my ancestors we not JUST neanderthal!! How can you not know what mitochondrial dna is!! Its African dna that ALL HUMANS HAVE!! from one woman in Africa and passed on only through mothers. Every bloody human on earth has it. And im only 2% neanderthal. Us whites have more African dna than neanderthal.

1. No one said you had "only" neanderthal DNA.

2. Technically its not "African DNA" after several rounds of mutations.

3. Technically you have more Homo Sapien Sapien DNA than what you refer to as "African DNA"

lindqvistbergst:
And straight to insults and you obviously do not know what neanderthal is, shorter and stockier and larger brain capacity.

Noone said you were neanderthal. We said your ancestors were

lindqvistbergst:
And your slave trader ancestors must be proud, remember without a seller there cannot be a buyer.

I don't belong to any royal houses or families so unfortunately my direct ancestors did not dabble in that crime.

KingCold:
Ok then

Buhari was close to senile during his last days. He also said this

IronGalaxy:
1.Telling illegal Pakis and Bangladeshis to go back home is NOT xenophobia or Afrophobia, at some point you African people need to understand that laws exist to be respected

We agree illegals should go home.

We do not agree with harassing spaza shop owners, legit business people or general foreign nationals.

You stop this and people will stop yelling xenophobia.

You have been doing this since 2008.

IronGalaxy:
2. Are these the only nationalities that are "fearing for their lives"? What about the others? Also Kenya, Lesotho, Tanzania never repatriated its citizens.. guess who's threatening to take SA to the ICC? The two most loudmouthed countries .. The same countries arent lifted a finger at Libya, a country that has literally enslaved its citizens.

Tomorrow South Africans will say it is AI.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMDBROKqAU4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRbDl9lHlBo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78qROplWx9Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWFUS2XALSY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0uwllq64Rg

IronGalaxy:
3. Of course mass immigration of illegals didn't start today, weve been pleading with our govt to do something to no avail.. look at whats happening now

Go back and watch videos from 2008 and come back to come convince us here that all that back then was about illegal immigration.

Who do you and the ANC think you are fooling.

IronGalaxy:
1.When you emphasize that it is "Afrophobia" you're basically saying African people are targeted and everyone else excluded, but how can this be when illegal Pakistani and Bangladesh who are operating shops illegally are told to leave? This is not xenophobia or Afrophobia

It is xenophobia and Afrophobia at the same time.

IronGalaxy:
2. Countries that came to "rescue" their people are countries that have the biggest mouths on the continent, where was the Ethiopian plane? Somalian one? Why only those ones if all immigrants are in such a danger? Where are those planes when Nigerians are enslved in Libya? The outrage is fake, performative..

Countries that evacuated their citizens:

1. Ghana
2. Nigeria
3. Malawi
4. Mozambic
5. Zimbabwe
6. Lesotho
7. Tanzania
8. Kenya

All these big mouthed countries.

IronGalaxy:
3.. I can take the term or vigilantism, because that's what happening in the absence or governance, not the so-called "xenophobia" or "Afrophobia", those terms are lazy and a cop out.

It didn't start today. Its been Since 2008. Subtract your age from that year and tell us again that its vigilantism.

IronGalaxy:
Many people have been in SA without understanding South African dynamics.. so claiming you've been here, means absolutely nothing

Especially the ones like me who has worked with refugees.

IronGalaxy:
oh Yes, the deportations of Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, the closing of their shops is also somehow "Afrophobic" right? You see what you want to see not what's there, in the same way they show you a South African slaping an illegal imigrant caught with the possession of drugs but they will never show you illegal Mozambicans who murdered an elderly couple or a Congolese man who stabbed a South African woman 40 times just last week.. You think you know based purely in media but you're just following a narrative they set for you

1.You can be xenophobic and Afrophobic at the same time. One is an intense symptom of the other.

2.How many Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Chinese e.t.c. were so "frightened" for their lives that their governments had to come rescue them.

3. Mentioning one crime perpetrated by foreigners does not justify the crime of vigilantism.

I have been around your people Mfethu, Rich, poor, working class, etc. You cannot erase my lived experience.

IronGalaxy:
As Tone deaf as you are with the legitimate concerns and lived experiences of South African people..

And we will continue to reiterate the fact that we are not against deportation of illegals or people who break the law.

We are against...saying it loud and clear AFROPHOBIA!

IronGalaxy:
All you African hypocrites know is barking the word "xenophobia" like your lives depend on it..

Because it is what we are seeing. If it weren't we wouldn't call it that.

This has been going on for almost 20 years. You are not fooling anybody.

IronGalaxy:
A Nigerian overstaying a study visa is not our responsibility, thats not how it works.. overstaying your visa already means you're an illegal.. deportations ate expensive, you cant keep dumping your people here and expecting us to foot the bill

It is your responsibility to deport an overstay. If you can't handle it stop issuing visas and permits.

Your government is responsible for this not ravaging vigilantes vandalizing and terrorizing civilians.

This is what we continue to repeat over and over again but you people in your rage are tone deaf.

IronGalaxy:
The whole world? Which world is that? Im seeing a lot of people on social media, on YouTube, etc.. understanding where South Africans are coming from.. youre just obsessed with seeing south Africa's name being dragged through the mud than the supposed "xenophobia" itself.

That algorithm is deceiving you plenty.

IronGalaxy:
Its your governments responsibility to provide for yall so you dont end straining the resources of other countries.. You are not our burden..

You are a sovereign state. You cannot be crying for an external government to come help you police your country. As soon as you granted those Nigerians a visa, work permits, study permits etc to enter your country, they become your responsibility.

Don't you understand international protocols and law.

IronGalaxy:
Taking matters in your hands to act where the governments has failed will never be xenophobia, sorry.. you misuse this word to the point of parody

It is Vigilantism, terror and xenophobia and the whole world is witnessing it.

I don't even need to do anything.

shivisee:
Carrying drugs to South Africa started this trouble for us. I pray God librate our drug people to stop tarnishing our image

The drug peddlers are using liberal laws to infiltrate their system and that is the issue.

It is simple to pass stringent laws to curb this but because their own government is culpable in some of these underworld activities, you see them looking for scapegoats to divert attention.

KLEINBASS:
I like how no one is addressing that most Nigerians in South Africa are undocumented or overstay visa, involved in drugs and other crimes.

Where is your stats?

If I turn around and state that most South Africans are xenophobic, would that be a factual statement?

AguluLiar:
Don't mind them.


South Africans are simply tired of Nigerians commiting all sorts of crimes in their space.

From robbery, drug peddling , cultism to kidnapping etc, there's no evil Nigerians have not perpetrated in South Africa .

Then they should do the needful and withdraw the embassy from Nigerian as protest and then we start talking.

IronGalaxy:
It takes someone as addicted to observe that.. Morpheus from Temu

Don't you love South Africa enough to be on a South African forum?

WatchYourSix:
Dem just get hatred inside their heart come Dey hide under immigration…. See them killing pple and they dem Dey support am

Since 2008 till now.

Who are they fooling.

FatherLord:
We are easily deceived in this Nigeria. Are you saying that the envoys just departed SA to Abuja without first securing a meeting appointment with Nigerias government? Abegi!

If “snub” is all we have to fight SA then this government is highly deceptive

They came directly from Ghana and may have given short notice.

Hermoniy:
Cancel Tyla.

Not only that. They should please come and carry their embassy out of Nigeria and close their door.

Omoawoke:
He snubs and still sent delegates there to attend to them? Thats not snubbing
He should have declined them from coming to the country in the first place

He did not receive them like the Ghanaian president did so it was a snub.

didymario7:
The Igbo King saga has been debunked several times by the Nigerian high commission after carrying out their own investigation but they keep bringing it up.

My brother the Igbo king saga was just an excuse to look for some reason to display their general disdain for Nigerian nationals.

I will continue to say that it is necessary to suspend diplomatic relations with South Africa before even initiating talks.

The US chased away the SA ambassador and they said nothing, instead they appeased the US by sending an onyibo ambassador.

They do not respect Nigerians on any level. We need to stop fooling ourselves.

RandDigital:
You mean this same Ghana?

but we thought you people want to stay on your own. No pan Africanis. No relations with others.

As for me, I want to see diplomatic ties suspended with South Africa then we can resume talking.

Cmeo:
Sir/Madam, I expected that that you (as a deployed Agent), you should know better about law. When somethings has not been made into law, you can't say it has been broken or not. 30 days Squatter right in Illinois, may be 6 months in another state and may never exist in another state.

Now, as this concerns US Immigration and Federal benefits, until it is passed by the Congress and hard-coded in a written form as law, you can't say a law has been broken, but you are free to say a loophole has been exploited depending the time that the loophole is closed.

So I still maintain that they haven't broken any law in US giving a birthright citizenship approach.

You dey mind Kobojunkie.

You get time.

phineas:
Eyes on the ball everyone

Innocent Nigerians have been vilified and castigated in SA, what will Nigeria do about it. End of story

SA cannot hold nigeria responsible for crimes on its shores,that's the meaning and purpose of sovereignty ,abdication of SAs role to keep its country drug free is what is happening.

How is that another countries problem.

They are running around trying to make excuses for the way they have run their own nation.

Its their laws that govern who comes into the country, its their laws that govern crime, its their laws that govern entry into the country

It is installation of a so called IGBO KING that is that crux of their grievance with Nigerians.

Any ethnic bigot that falls for this trap is not thinking well upstairs.

IronGalaxy:
Yes, south africans dont want Nigerians in their country, these are just facts and you know thwm.. we are sitting with these problems because our government enable them.. governments have never been mouthpiece for ordinary citizens, this is just not rocket science..

Learn to take rejection well, we dont want tou people.. accept this and move on ffs..this daily whining is boring

Strange response. Why are you here listening to us whine about this all day if this doesn't affect you in any way.

IronGalaxy:
You dont know what you arguing for, One minute we are "xenophobic", the next minute you dispute when I say we dont want you...and you wonder why Jace calls you the king of circular reasoning.. just go to sleep man..

There is nothing circular about what I am tabling.

1.You say you don't want Nigerians in your country and I "add" that if this were indeed the sentiment your government would severe ties but they have not. How then do you want to stop these people from coming to your country?


2. Two things can be true at the same time. A group of your people can be xenophobic and engage in vigilantism by attacking foreigners and your government can also send envoys to other countries to explain this aspect of the resentment growing in your communities. There are no absolutes.

If you are still confused I am sorry I can't help you.

zhike:
Today she is court fighting her deportation.

Yes we know you are praying for her to be deported so you can feel a win against "nigerians"

IronGalaxy:
We dont want you in our country, simple.. its time you accepted this

If that were the truth you would have withdrawn your embassy by now and in addition to that you would stop giving Malawians, Mozambicans and Zimbabweans 30/60/90 day visas to enter your country and stay there.

Come back when you are serious neh!

IronGalaxy:
Yes, we don't want them, what else?

Until you stop issuing visas to them to come spend their hard earned money in your country so they can pay your people salaries then we will take you seriously.

IronGalaxy:
Useless semantics..

Fortunately, I can differentiate between criminals and people from a certain nationality but unfortunate for you they are one and the same.

JASONjnr:
Migrating to other parts of the world doesn't mean your country isn't developed or has a bad economy.

Sometimes you move to do business or explore or learn specific skills and practices on those countries.

One thing that took me to south Africa was a scholarship for masters on a specific course that no Nigerian university offers. During my time there, it was one messy country that I couldn't spend a day after my studies. I returned.

But other Nigerians I met there where doing very well with their businesses. But as usual, tribalism was visibly seen amongst Nigerians there. No go close to Igbo people, while igbos would see me and advised that I should be careful with yorubas.

There is some bad cult/fraternity activity there as well. Most doctors I know have also left to Canada and Saudi Arabia citing the same discriminatory actions in health care.

IronGalaxy:
South Africans have made it clear they dont want your people.. accept this and move on, at what point would you stop wailing about it? Move on..

I am wailing about xenophobia. If you don't want Nigerians, do the needful and ask your government to close your embassies in Nigeria and withdraw diplomatic ties.

kiddaz:
Your ignorance is your choice bro

I could layout a myriad of scenarios were she could become a citizen but some peoples hearts are so full of hate for a steanger that it wouldnt be worth my time to enlighten them.

ednut1:
she entered the country back illegally through land border

Haiboo, from mexico?

ednut1:
baba stop making excuses where there is non. If South Africa dont have strong evidence they wont revoke her documents

I am simply stating the facts what is making excuses about that?

They revoked the stolen particulars now they have to "invalidate" her presence in the country which entails more than just withdrawing documents. I pray she has some good lawyers. I know capetown has some good ones which is why her case should be tried there?

Please note that during this bruhaha she was able to exit and renter the country. You don't want to ask how she was able to do that?

DId they put South African visa on her Nigerian passport when she was reentering the country?