₦airaland Forum

IronGalaxy:
Yes, all the noise and mouth ends here... for your issues though...

Also please mention your "atrocities" in South Africa as well...this one-sided narrative won't work with me

And here's the thing, South Africans owe you nothing, enough crying

Selling heroine/nyaope to anyone is also a terrible act and should be condemned. I unequivocally distance myself from human beings Nigerian or otherwise who engage in such acts.

Now can you do the same about your Xenophobes.

Waiting?

IronGalaxy:
"atrocities? Do you even know what the word means? Your people are being chopped of their heads left, right and center for their religious affiliation in Nigeria, some even eaten by the bandits ,those are"atrocities" not the protests of South Africa..

An extremely cruel act is attacking, chasing, beating somebody who has put in all his hard work for 15+ years building something and someone coming to rob him from it without compensation.

An extremely cruel act is also blocking sick people from hospitals with no "legal" basis when there is possibility of death or injury.

It qualifies as an atrocity in my book.

Angelfrost:
The real issue is the total assumption that only foreigners are involved in drug trade and trafficking.

Let's even assume that's the case... How exactly are they successfully getting the illegal drugs into the nation?!! What exactly do you have law enforcement for?!!

On another more critical note, are stores and businesses being destroyed or forcefully taken over run by drug dealers?!! Are those people being lynched in the streets drug dealers?!!

If yes, how did you investigate to find this out?!!

See, can we all just be honest about your xenophobia for once?!! This tagging a dog a bad name in order to kill it is quite stale and unintelligent.

he will not answer you cause it will create what is known as cognitive dissonance.

QuinQ:
Maybe if our brothers were not pushing drugs on her son...

Then she should say I hate criminal foreigners.

IronGalaxy:
Im saying you see want you wanna see, hence your obsession with putting things in these little boxes chucking out anything that doesn't fit your little agenda .

South Africans are neither xenophobic or Afrophobic..

Right right.

IronGalaxy:
its called pacifying.. I know you guys are obsessed with labeling South African "xenophobic" than removing Tinubu

Pheww.....I was about to retire from Nairaland.

lightwind:
South Africans are going to unleash mayhem on those foreigners who refused to leave their country before June 30th.

Enough killing and looting of shops, this is what they are waiting for opportunity to loot foreigners shops and houses.

Have you studied apartheid. It is the same methodology.

IronGalaxy:
"but but but, but what? You're as tribalistic as im xenophobic..lets all wear our medals proudly.

Did I hear you say you are xenophobic.

Thank you Jesus.

IronGalaxy:
You see what you wanna see, and not what's there..this statement here describes you to the TEE my friend...

But you said no coverage from media or government.

IronGalaxy:
Again, i know what xenophobia and Afrophobia are..you're not answering my question here, xenophobia is more of a broader term, Afrophobia is more specific...im asking , at what point did we move from the broader term of being "xenophobic" to the more specific "Afrophobic" label?

You've always been both. You didn't move from one to the other.

One is a general term to describe your actions while the other zones in on the specifics just like you can be fat and obese at the same time.

IronGalaxy:
At point does this cancel that Nigeria has a tribalism problem does it?

It is not denial it is explaining the nuisance.

Just like Xenophobia exists in South Africa but there are nuisances.

IronGalaxy:
Nope..killings in Nigeria face little scrutiny, little lips-service from your politicians and media than a Malawian man-handled during a protest.. you and I know this..

You see what you want to see and not what is there.

Shame **in Somizi voice****

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kidnapping+in+nigeria+2025+arise+news


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5gpoGg-LDQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik0Z0nGqMoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR6Qy4bjjWA

IronGalaxy:
Ofcourse I would have been surprised if you call out immigrants on anything wrong because hey, they are victims and in for the them to do anything wrong they should see it from South Africans.. again, lack of accountability.. don't know any South African that will defy and fight foreign cops

When you see a group of South AFricans outside of South Africa being denied their human rights, come fetch me.

IronGalaxy:
I know what Afrophobia is, im asking at what point did we change from being xenophobic to being strictly Afrophobic?

Again they are the same thing with a qualifier/focus- Black skin just like being a colorist and a racist are practically synonyms.

Don't try to dance around this.

IronGalaxy:
If this is your attempt to spin the rampant tribalism we all know about, forget it

Been a Lagosian all my life. Those are touts sponsored by political miscreants.

Much like your march on march.

IronGalaxy:
Don't care what you support, just hold your governments accountable, they are the reason we face this mess today.. how we respond to those problems, should be the least of your worries...can't pour boiling water into a plastic bottle then criticize the bottle for melting.. we as south africans are "melting" from the failures of your respective governments.

You will care soon enough.

IronGalaxy:
Where do you get those figures? Because I doubt them very much, how many people have died in your insurgencies to date? Which one of the two receives more scrutiny and scorn?

Both do. You only hear yours because you choose to.

IronGalaxy:
No matter the reason, you come here illegally and still have the audacity to fight the cops? This is the entitlement and downright disrespect we face from these people , call it out..

They are learning from you, no!.

Monkey see , monkey do.

IronGalaxy:
So it's no longer xenophobia now but Afrophobia? Which other "phobia" ? Do we also suffer from?

They are the same thing with a "qualifier"-Black skin.

IronGalaxy:
Yes, you try kick them from yoruba states, so why must I listen to you lecturing me about xenophobia ?

You've never been to Lagos have you?

SMH.

IronGalaxy:
Villigantism exists when the state has failed to do its job.. People have been complaining and complaining to no avail, whats next to do when people are fed up? Take the law into their hands.. exactly what we're seeing in Ireland

And we do not support it.

IronGalaxy:
Stop this "killing " myth, its dishonest..

About 65 "officially" recorded deaths since 2008. Excluding the ones unreported.

IronGalaxy:
Those Malwians ended uo fighting the cops ...

Because they thought they were being lied to about where they were being transported to.

IronGalaxy:
The portion of your population is xenophobic too, don't force me to accept things you cant accept about your people... im against the label that South African are xenophobic because not true..

I have never denied tribalism in Nigeria. It is an evil us sane people live with much like the Afrophobia that exists in South Africa.

GanagiBitrus:
2pts can actually qualify you for R/32, depending on how many pts other 3rd placed teams get. Top8 ranked out of the 12teams that finish 3rd will qualify.

Though for S/Africa, their chances will be very slim with 2pts & minus2 GD.
They'll have to fight for a win against S/Korea which may likely not happen.

I like your optimism. Miracles do happen.

HEHEHEHEHE!

IronGalaxy:
Conveniently omits the crimes, lawlessness, strained resources

Every country on earth is subject to Globalization, so no

I've raised the issues of mass migration and competition for scarce resources before, I guess it doesnt count when said by me..

But we all understand these points however we are still trying to reconcile the vigilantism and killings we see on our screens.

You people still don't get it. Its not the fact that we don't recognize that all these things are factors driving the resentment.

Its the how you are handling it that is the issue.

Do you see anyone complaining about the Malawians who are self deporting themselves back home?

Do you see anyone shouting when we see law enforcement or city officials doing their jobs on the streets.

Look Mfethu accept the fact that a portion of your society are xenophobic. This has been going on since the early 2000's for you to try to bury your head in the sand and call this something else.

We can differentiate btw peaceful marches and lawlessness.

IronGalaxy:
if it didnt start today, so when did start?

We've been living with immigrants since the dawn of democracy, all of a sudden out of the blue, we' ve just became magically "xenophobic" no nuance, no context, no reasons why we are pushing back against immigration.. just xenophobia from the sky fell onto South Africans and boom!!.. smh

I can help you with a few symptoms:

Globalization
mass migration
Economic Down turn.
Competition for scarce resources.

Xenophobia is the outcome.

IronGalaxy:
He's not denouncing your criminality and lawlessness on this post.. nice try

I guess "adhering to laws" excludes active engagement in criminality. You want us to go fish out those criminals when your march and march are too cowardly to do the same.

You think it is today xenophobia started.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkYiW2EOEis

IronGalaxy:
They say Cape Verdeans are "xenophobic towards mainland Africans especially Nigerians..

Now, Last time I checked, the definition of the word "xenophobia" had nothing to do with "killing" or "harrassing"

You cannot go to someone's country and start creating a perception about your nationality, as it has happened in Cape Verde, and when those people begin treating you in a certain way..you start crying xenophobia

Cape Verdians being labelled "xenophobic" does not in anyway negate the fact that your country men are Xenophobic as well so I don't get what point you are trying to make here.

Support the equivalence with what we have been seeing for close to 20+years then maybe I will take you seriously.

IronGalaxy:
Was he sent grievances by the UK? Or did he saw fit to point out wrongdoing of his countrymen?
What's stoping your leaders from pointing all your respective wrongdoings in SA?
Why do all your leaders wait until we march an start pointing fingers and blame us bing nit denounce all your shenanigans?

Whataboutism

https://allafrica.com/stories/201910040040.html

President Muhammadu Buhari Thursday in Pretoria, South Africa, called for more tolerance, vigilance and heightened security in countries to ensure the safety of citizens, noting that competition heralded by globalization, especially with ease in migration, will only get more intense for businesses.

Responding to questions during a press conference at the Union Building, alongside his host, President Cyril Ramaphosa, the president said authorities should be more pro-active in detecting early signals of violence between competitors, while migrants and companies should adhere to the local laws of countries.

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IronGalaxy:
Your cape Verde... actions have consequences, when you do things in someone's backyard, there are consequences..im dead certain this racial profiling didnt come from nowhere

Can you pull up any Xenophobic videos for me as well with foreigners being killed or harassed in Cape Verde.

I want to see something.

IronGalaxy:
No no no..this deflection wont work because my question remains unanswered

When South Africans complain of all these crimes from all your nationalites..there's no mouth, whether from your media, your governments, etc you only have mouths only when we retaliate

Why?

Who are you complaining to?

Did you send an envoy to the Nigerian government to air your grievances?

IronGalaxy:
They are indeed repping Africa like of all us.. but just like us.. they are seeing exactly what we're seeing and they're also beginning to talk.

Everyone talks about Nigerian criminals in their country but no one is Xenophobic to those who are not.

IronGalaxy:
I reiterate, I don't care what you Seppuku do.. it is of no consequence

But African people as a collective are hypocrites.. and your outrage is selective.

This couple was murdered by Mozambicans, illegal ones, they fled to Mozambique after their crime. and its not even an isolated incidents, Mozambicans do this a lot...

Have you heard anything from the Mozambican government? There's a huge Mozambican inter-border car theft.. have you heard anything from the Moza government? Have they ever said anything about this issue..? Have Africans on social media say anything?

But should a Mozambican shop be looted.. you'll see the difference among all of you

Whataboutism my dear boy.

A large amount of the bandits that enter Nigeria are from different tribes/countries across the Sahel region. Do you see any of us harassing people from that part of the world that live within our borders.

It is well known that people from Republic de Benin commit crimes alongside the borders in Nigeria. Do you see anyone harassing people from Benin that live within our borders.

Somali commit and have committed henious crimes in Kenya over the years with terrorist attacks, piracy and smuggling around the coastal areas. Do you see Kenyan's harassing Somali people.

There is unrest along the borders of Rwanda and Congo where people along each of the borders are attacked. Do you see Rwandans harassing Congolese people who live in Rwanda.

Only the "special" Africans are allowed to do this.

Please spare me the dribble.

Jmichael1:
Dis world cup na wa ooooh

I don shift support to Ivory coast and Cape verde o!

Especially the Cape Verdian because they repping AFRICA all the way not like some people who keep claiming they are something else.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyQDUy_t7jQ

Incognito403:
This is not talk.
This argument is the true definition of bigotry; asking every member of a demographic to apologise for the crime of a member as if they're the ones that sent him to commit the crime.

Did your government arrest and prosecute anyone and other African governments kick against it? No! So the problem is your governemnt.

Moreover, I know people who lived in south africa. It's a big lie that foreigners are the criminals. A very big lie.

They are using "crime" to justify their ways don't mind them.

A majority of the violent crime is them o!

IronGalaxy:
Is it universal? Do your people denounce and raise awareness of the crimes and lawlessness foreigners have brought to SA? Your people on social.media? Your media? Has any of your politicians ever say anything about Nigerian drug dealing in SA?. Has any Mozambican official came out to denounce Mozambican crimes in SA?

.

All you do is blame, blame, blame, point fingers without taking any accountability..

Whataboutism. Its your governments responsibility to work with other governments to catch, imprison, deport and punish foreign criminals running rampant in your country.

IronGalaxy:
If you gonna make a meal about South Africans man-handling an illegal foreigner, make the same noise when a Zimbabwean is caught removing traffic lights and selling them for scrap

I condenm crimes committed by any foreigner operating in South Africa and order for his immediate apprehension and arrest.

Now can you condemn the actions of your vigilantes.

Waiting. Clock started.

IronGalaxy:
So say your propaganda stories neh.?

Listen here, If you gonna be vocal about "south africans doing this and that" to immigrants..

Please also be vocal about your delinquencies against South African people because they are many..

This victim and villain angle you guys got going is disingenuous and gonna work with me

But I have continiously and openly condemed any Nigerian criminal doing bad things time and time again.

Do you want me to personally come there and help you catch them?

Now can you condemn the vigilantism we are seeing on our screens?

Yemon:
I don't understand South Africa football anymore, back in the days they use to have white players like Mark Fish,who was a good defender then.

Even Steven Pienaar dey play pass these guys.

IronGalaxy:
You still dont understand dont you? Why must we tolerate your wrongdoing in SA? Why? Because we have our wrongdoers? That's your logic?

but that Nigerian man minding his business employing South Africans was not doing anything wrong?

Arostar2023:
Nope. There’s is no nation on earth that doesn’t have criminals and lawbreakers. But you guys are making it look that all crimes in SA are by foreign nationals. You blame foreign nationals for the failures of your politicians and institutions.

Guy no mind that guy. He will dodge that question by telling you to go and fight your bandits.

We are not having the same conversation with them.