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Apparently Gabriel Jesus is dropped today due to him not following Arteta’s instructions on positional play. Mainly "staying" between the posts during final third pressure. #arsenalfanaticsnews

Jodera:
Tomi is back... Thank goodness

Jesus dropped. The missed chances finally came back to bite. Hopefully, Nketiah takes his chance and Jesus head will reset well with the benching

Kiwior... Fingers crossed.
Seems Zinny is injured

Yeah...he has a little issue with his calf.

Kiwior replaces injured Zinchenko.

Nketiah starts.

Havertz comes in for Trossard.

Tomiyasu makes the bench.


#coyg

Jodera:
I saw that nonsense example he gave and I just gave up.

But then, I don rest for the matter. Thank goodness Dave.P no use agenda talk say Giroud dey on par with Van Persie

Be like I go comot hand o. I don tire sef.
Happy Sunday

Bimmarlykay:
like no be juju be that.

Spy360:
Young man I am not going to argue with you about the validity of statistics because it's a waste of time. There are people who spent years getting a degree in stats and there are people who are professors of statistics and data analysis. So if you think stats are misleading then good for you. Happy New Year in Advance.

Ever heard of margin of error? You need to sit down with these Professors and table this matter before them. BTW, I'm not disputing the validity of stats, I said they're not conclusive.

Spy360:
Lol.

Bros na you make Giroud A and RVP B? no kee me with laugh abeg.

Giroud hardly scores hatricks that's why Jodera thinks he is average. I have provided their G/G and yet we are still arguing about nothing. For context, Giroud has won more titles and accolades than RvP. But let's leave that story for another day. Lol

You don dey turn amala o spy. So it is not based on stats again. You have brought the number of hattrick and titles. You dey Facebook? I would want you to sort other people's opinion concerning this matter.

As for striker A vs Striker B, that sample already dented your stance on this stat matter. You were just not aware.

Spy360:
We lost because we couldn't break a low block. Havertz would have maneuvered the spaces to create clear chances for goal. That's what a raumdeuter does.

Don't worry, Havertz will play today you will see difference.

We lost because we didn't take our chances. No be today we Don dey break down teams with low block. Havertz could have given us height up top no doubt. He would have at least scored from those headers Jesus was missing.

Spy360:
My friend stats are not misleading to those who know how they work. If they were then why are they kept. Opta has been keeping stats of players for many years and making good money.

Saying stats are misleading is like saying your bank statements are misleading. EFCC go just carry you go where you don't know.

Stats can be misleading because they don't tell the whole story. Today's football is different from the 90s. If stats are conclusive, there won't be need for scouts to travel miles just to watch their players of interest. The eye test is very very important.

Spy360:
Do you know how many games Henry played without a goal? Your point no hold water biko

In 5matches, Striker A did not score in the first four but scored a hatrick in the fifth. Striker B ensured he scored one goal in each of the 5 matches. Striker B has a better goals per game ratio. But people will think striker A is a better player than B because of the 3goals they saw in one match. Mumu fans

Gbam! You just summarized everything. Using this your context, Giroud is the striker A here while VPersie is striker B. I'm glad you can see how a flash in the pan performance can hide a lot of inconsistencies.

Spy360:
You fans can be funny.

Havertz missed one game and Arsenal lost 2-0 at home to West Ham. Think about this. When I said it is Havertz that makes the tactics to work with his space control you guys think you know ball more than me. Dey play.

So you're saying we lost because Havertz didn't play? Just say it bro. FYI, you didn't support this Havertz more than me. However, I'm not too blinded to know when to call out a poor performance.

Person wey get Broja and Jackson as strikers dey troll Roque.. Is God not wonderful?

Spy360:
I think it's correct to say. However, stats are facts that when presented as evidence should be accepted.

If I say I spend millions daily for example, and you doubt it. Then I bring facts to prove it, like a bank statement, you should accept the facts as long as you don't have any counter evidence, even if you still don't believe. That's my problem with Jodera. After going to viewing centre to hear beer parlour analysis he will come here to argue with no evidence.

Does your bank statement shows what exactly you spent the money on?

Does your bank statement shows is na #500 or #1000 you dey spend?

Spy360:
You are wasting cyberspace. Post the required measures that you used to determine that Giroud is very average.

I have brought up titles you say they are rubbish. I then brought stats you call them mini skirts. Oga bring whatever you used to determine that Giroud is average or remain silent. Talk is cheap.

Meanwhile I'll like to see the goals per minute ratio your talked about. Don't run.

You remember that year Leceister won the league. Remember Giroud went almost 15 games without scoring. That is one proof.


Jones was crawling and still got to the ball ahead of Giroud that was running. That is another proof.

Spy360:
You will keep arguing even when the facts are laid bare to you. It's honourable to accept arguments that are made with facts that are verifiable. Even if you don't believe the facts at least accept them. If someone says he is a billionaire and I doubt it. If the person shows be his bank balance at least I should accept even if I still have my doubts. Any body can wake up and call Giroud 'very very average'.

It's funny because it is similar to you accusing Hausa for saying that Saka and Martinelli are average. There is no difference then between the both of you.

Bro... Stats can be quite misleading. Remember Mustafi had better stat than VVD that year. Now pray tell...who would you have rather have in your team between both?

Statistically, Havertz has been better than Xhaka this season yet many would still go for Xhaka when it comes down to choosing between the two.

Everything no be by stat bro.

Unlimited22:
Who was the person I was arguing with about right backs overlapping yesterday?

See the goal Madueke just scored now. He was with two people and Gusto sprints up to join him and creates uncertainty. In that one moment, a small space opens up, baba takes the shot and we lead by two.

Ben White go stand like say e be usher for RCCG.

Get your full backs to overlap. Simple.

Haaa... you too?
Anyway, we no dey stand o. We dey walk up and down at times. No dey enter us anyhow.

Jodera:
Stats is just like Mini Skirt, cos it don't reveal the main important things.

That's why you'll be bold enough to say Nketiah is a better player than Jesus in arsenal because he scores more goals than him. That's why you'll say Giroud is on par with Van Persie, Adebayor and Auba in arsenal shirt. Mind you, 2/3 of the trio have won golden boot while the last one was a golden boot contender.

If you don't think Stats is to complement what we watch and not a "stand alone" criteria, then you can be watching your football in livescores/sofascores. They give good stats

Joderaaaaa

All these scholars no do pass this one. You deserve an honorary degree abeg.

Tessyy1701:
I would have used his slot for a midfielder if I am the coach and if the striker is my priority like GBAseiro I will pick Moffi.

Yea...I would have gone for another midfielder too but the formation wouldn't allow that. On Moffi vs Sadiq, I think the recent raves gave Sadiq the edge.

Kog45:
Awoniyi injury threw the position opened and Peseiro preferred Sadiq over Moffi,nothing like stealing anyone's slot.

Exactly...The third slot for a striker is always going to be competitive.

Tessyy1701:
I said something like this not quite long...

If someone is stealing anybody's slot it's Leke Ojo and Umar Sadiq for Me

Whose slot did Sadiq stole?

humility33:
That midfield need players like akpom and alhassan to get the balance

For Musa I will rather integrate him into the back room staff so as to make way for Terem

When did Akpom became a midfielder?

BTW, Musa doesn't have what it takes to be a coach. He is more like a politician to me. He will be better in the glass house.

Jodera:
But White Overlaps more last season compared to this season. In fact, he was more daring.

Na why I even defend am last season

Maybe it's due to injury.

I just wan tell you guys say make una no shock if our first signing in January is a CB. Hato (Ajax), De Ligt (Bayern) and 'quarterback' (Dortmund) are the latest targets.

As for Toney, my source said his deal was concluded alongside Raya's last summer.

Osimhen still remains the only striker we are being linked to.

Jorginho, Partey, Nelson and ESR likely future departures.

Jodera:
When you see destructive criticism, it comes with that nature.

They'll tell someone to improve but can't pinpoint where the person will improve on

They'll a team they need to get better players but out of the pool of players worldwide, they can point one or two players to improve the team

Their own is just to critique and critique and critique all day long!!!

It's now he knows it's management that's paid the big bucks for that.

Those Kain people, I dey fear them for real life cos they only see mostly see flaws and never a positive. Always to pull down.

I just hope his online characteristics is different from his real life tho.

I tire o. You can't suggest yet you dey criticize.

Hausa:
I'm not suggesting anything.
I don't do such things.
Let the Management go and do the suggestion themselves.
They have the base, finance and the lookout to do these things.

Some years ago I mentioned that if we want to be BIG, we need to look at what our BIG opponents are doing.
I saw Mane and Salah on the wings of Liverpool, and saw Sterling and Mahrez (and Bernado Silva) on the wings of City.
People felt I was being ridiculous.
Years later, they've gone on to win things and moved on.
We're still basking on the FaCup Aubameyang helped us win.

But I don't want to sound like a kill joy. We dey this thing together.

If you can't suggest, why criticize the ones we have?
Salah was a journeyman until that famous Basel match. Mane started small at Southampton. Both clicked under Klopp. They were not ready-made neither did they fell from the sky.

Sterling at Liverpool was so wasteful and reckless. Until Leceister won that league, who knew Mahrez?

The players you mentioned above have once passed through the phase Saka and Martinelli (whom you're criticizing) are currently passing through but their coaches didn't ditch them because they're neither models nor are they following Kim Kardashian.

Nice list. I'm really indifferent to Musa's inclusion.
What would it cost JPes to add Yusuf and maybe Kelechi to the squad. The midfield is thin.

Hausa:
I don't disagree at all.
But for the past Three years, I've objectively asked myself if these players can take me to where I desire to be.
The answer inside of me has always been a NO.

I don't like being a Kill Joy for these current squad, but I was bitter we didn't try to improve our attack during the summer.
People said we have Nelson, Viera and Nketiah.
That's when I knew we're not a serious Fan at all.

Oya suggest the attackers you would want arsenal to sign.

AndSunGorilla:
Partey hasn't been playing for Assnal plus Derica Rice has taken over the DM role. For Utd, maybe the spare keeper won't leak as much as Onana . Right now, Onana has been a disaster, I hope he turns around the story.

Well, A fully fit Partey would raise the quality of this current arsenal team so he will be missed.
As for Onana, you're spot on.

AndSunGorilla:
Nottingham go hear am during AFCON . No impact to City, United, Newcastle, Arsenal to an extent, Chelsea with all their Ibo origin boys.

United and Arsenal may not have much player going to Afcon but the impact will be felt as an integral member of their teams will be going for the tourney.
Onana and Partey will be a huge miss. As for City, nothing concern them.

Jodera:
True... But he do move central sometimes.

I think Tomi would have helped out. Last season, White was good in overlapping runs. I dunno whether it's injury but White this season just seems off.

Something is just not right

I think it is the system. White is part of the '3' in our 3-2-5 formation. Overlapping means he would be exposing our defence to counterattack. I think that's why he is wary of bombing forward.

@Hausa
I hope you know the models you are clamouring for started somewhere. Your so called models didn't automatically became models. They grew and develop through different situations. Infact, Saka himself is a model judging by his personal laurels so far.
You said these set of attackers can't win us trophy, I partially agree because I myself believe we need a good striker as an icing on the cake. But I want you to remember that Saka, Martinelli and Ode were part of the team that almost won the league last season if not for poor squad depth and injury.

Jodera:
I see people talking how Odegaard should be more central instead of going to the wings and always hiding behind Saka.

The thing is, according to our formation, this has always been his game even right from last 2 seasons. No be today e start. We've always been playing 433 symmetrical. Tomi/white —Odegaard— Saka trident on one side while Tierney/Zinny — Xhaka — Martinelli trident on the other side(reason I always call it RHS and LHS respectively). DM and striker acts as the link to the build up to such trident or the link to the passage of one trident to another.

So with this, we can see that Odegaard acts as RAM/RCM, while Xhaka acted as an LAM/LCM. So with this, it's the duty of Odegaard to always feed Saka and have an understanding with him, same way it's for Xhaka (and presently Havertz) to always feed Martinelli and have an understanding with him (as well as the FBs too). On occasions tho, They'll tilt towards the middle to retrieve ballbut that's how far they can go. And the aim is to do that in order to win the ball or build up straight to their assigned attackers (except on few occasions the opposite attacker is free and a cross field pass is necessary). Rarely will you see Odegaard or Xhaka switch wing. This positioning Is called Juego de posicion and that's what Arteta system plays.

It's the reason why I want Havertz to be up and doing in his creativity task cos leaving everything creativity on Odegaard/Saka wing is too much. It'll be like a person walking on one leg. Obviously the person would walk but it'll be with difficulty, pressure and imbalance. And that's what's happening to this team.

Until our LHS gets it right, our RHS will continue to suffer. Saka have been trying very well, but he's no Messi. If he doesn't gets help and distraction, we might keep on complaining and complaining!!!

Well understood. That he should move central doesn't mean he should stay central throughout the whole match. You do know that by staying frequently on the wing, he is limiting Saka's space.