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Na tiwa savage fit this boma

In the pre colonial era there was no such people called “yoruba” it was not documented by Portuguese nor by Britain yes we have people in west but they were not called Yoruba

He came from the linage of traitors, you were in a meeting with southern governors all of una agree on something for your people u comot go tell buhari why did you not disagree with your fellow southern governors, people were thinking is wike that was the traitor when presidency claimed someone on his phone and they heard all the conversations that was discussed in one of the last niger delta summit, Obaseki I pity you

Four people I know that took this new vaccine three have died. Not the old covid vaccine this new one they just brought

This new wave of covid has made a lot of people rush to health center to take covid vaccines but now, the death toll has increased,, some people I have seen that took this new vaccine have died, some are trying to make claims that it could be the vaccine, as at yesterday mortuaries in Benin city were all filled up they are not even accepting new corpse, so we don’t know what is now killing people is it the covid or the vaccine

rhektor:
As sickly as you claim that he look your ọba was weeing in his trousers when he heard that Ogedengbe is coming

Yoruba history full of foo,lish logic
Imagin a common thief was documented as the greatest Yoruba man ever.
If your stupid ogedegbe had enter Benin he would have be sacrificed to the gods

Kogi1stson:
He should resign

Remember he is a pastor maybe he is praying about Nigeria situation

WATCHOVER:
Though he is not active as most Nigerians expected but let him remain there, his presence is giving the south hope, I think is time south rally round one another whether good or bad like the Northerners do.

Of what use is he remaining there

The salaries and allowances of this man go let am leave so to stand by his people

What do you expect from your Vice President since the president has turned his back on us, should the Vice President only continue to collect and enjoy his salary and allowances till his tenure ends or there is something he can do to help the disadvantaged Nigerians ?

Bronze casting , wood carvings, beads , using market days to mark date, royalty or kingship by primogenitor etc are all Benin inventions.

rhektor:
If not that you are too dull to understand whatever you read, before Usman Dan Fodio ever thought of carrying out jihad in Northern part of this present day Nigeria, Islam has been in Yorùbá land. Y'all just come to nairaland to disgrace yourselves. Which Bini is father of who? Bini that were urinating in their wrapper when they heard that Ogedengbe of Ijesha is coming

Ogedegbe Yoruba claim is the greatest Yoruba man ever, was just a common thief, a bandit, he will flog Yoruba king with cane and get away with their food and valuables,
Na this Mu,mu you say e come benin kingdom you nor well , a place that took Britain to go and borrow weapons to fight during the the third coming,, this ogedegbe story and propaganda has prove to me that there was no man in the west , imagine this sick looking man ravaged the entire south west alone

rhektor:
You have taken more 1759 than your brain can handle. Let the hangover get over you then come back and retract this poo

Go and read ,
forget those obatala stories
Forget laramode a Yoruba man who brought Islam from Mecca in 14 century to Yoruba land , when we know over here that it was usman Dan fodio who brought Islam yesterday in 18 century to Yoruba land .
Benin is the father of Yoruba,
oduduwa is a Benin man

Abohboy:
A lot of artefacts were lost or destroyed during the yoruba civil war had it not occured there would be ten times more yoruba artefacts in European museums then Benin artefacts but even with a whole civil war and mass slave raiding we still had and still have a lot of artefacts available and many are still being discovered till this day.

Oga Yoruba nor fight any war, ife modakeke is a modern fight of mid 19 century it was never a war, but communal disagreement over boarder or missing goat , one thing your historian didn’t tell you is that before 18 century we have no records of a place called Yoruba land in 18 century backward, we are aware of ife , ijebu , oyo, but we have never heard of the word Yoruba until 19 century we Benin have a lot of history with the western Nigeria we know you people very well before few of this so-call Yoruba historians started painting history to put a group of people who cannot kill a fly, peaceful people as warriors and you expect us the protectors of southern Nigeria to keep quiet Fulani took over Yoruba peacefully without resistance, we only have the bight of Benin why not bight of Yoruba if they were really there.
Benin fought war conquer major part of Nigeria,
Portugal most times send us their army and weapon eg idah war in kogi state, outside Oba of Benin, king attah of idah was the second most feared king, not ife not oyo not Yoruba king, we fought British government a country Nigeria cannot even dare to fight we fought even if they defeated us , but we had our honor and our pride we are warriors, don’t use biro and paper to place us behind Yoruba.
Yoruba did not fight war,
And did not loose any treasures to any group there’s no evidence to backup that claim.

Morenikeji090:
Benin are the crazy folks. We Yoruba don't even have ur time. Yoruba are far better than you folks in anything. For the fact ur king sit is ours and ur king will continue to be under our yoruba king. Oni of Ife and Alafin of Oyo. Wake up Benin's u got no level compare to Yoruba's we are superior lolz

Nor dey vex because we vex pass una
The only documented black history European and other historians in other part of the world study in Nigeria is Benin history because they are documented go to all the museum in Europe and America you will see thousands of Benin art work with inscription
The rest are stories especially that of Yoruba history just stories how obatala gave birth to twins then the twins became triplet stories,
Do you have a king? No you don’t , all you have is appointee
Kings are born not chosen at a random
Till date the oldest family in Africa is Oba of Benin family even the European attest to that

Oduduwa who the Yoruba claim is their Christopher Columbus who is he and where did he come from if you can answer me sincerely then I will accept that his grandchild Oba of Benin is also a Yoruba man

TAO12:
Who Oduduwa Is:

Having pointed out that the 1970s Izoduwa joke has no basis in history; what then do the historical studies say today on the roots of Oduduwa in the light of the earliest traditions and other source evidence??

Oduduwa ruled as king only in Yorubaland, so a fair inquiry into his roots must necessarily proceed with an examination of the Yorubas’ earliest traditions on his roots. Having said that, because his rule was at Ife I would begin with a description of Ife’s topography.

The archaeological survey of the Ife country shows it to lie in a high bowl surrounded by hills which form a watershed for streams flowing out via gaps between the hills.

Paul Ozanne’s 1969 report of his archaeological survey finds that many settlements were already on ground in the Ife country by circa 350 BCE.

These settlements increased in number and size over time, and by 900AD when great changes began in the area, these settlements must have been up to the 13 whose names have been passed via the traditions to the present century.

These settlements include: Iloromu (which lay along a stretch of today’s Ife-Ilesha road); Ideta (which lay along today’s road to Mokuro); Odin (which lay along the modern road to Ifewara); Iwinrin (which covered the area of today’s Koiwo and Oronno quarters); Omologun (which covered part of what is now OAU campus); Imojubi (which lay along today’s Ife-Ondo road); Ijugbe; Oke-Oja; & Iraye (which all lay west of the area now known as Modakeke). The sites of Ido; Oke-Awo; Iloran and Parakin are difficult to asserctain.

The other settlements whose names have also come down to us through the traditions are: Ilare, Esije, Ita-Yemoo, Orun-Oba-Ado (after the burial site), Ilara, and Idio.

King Oduduwa of Ife (even before becoming the king of the Ife country) was first widely known (and passed down till date by the early traditions) as Ọṣìn-Ọrà; i.e., the Head of Ora community.

Ọrà (or aptly: Òkè-Ọrà — that is, Ọrà-Hill) was an old hilly settlement in the Ife country, particularly sited in the Iloromu part of the country.

The traditions recall that it was in this hilly community of Ọrà that Oduduwa’s homeland was prior to moving down into the Omologun area of the “Ife bowl”.

After the long civil-conflict between the autochthones of the “Ife-bowl” and the new groups who continued to join them (a conflict which appears from an in-depth analysis of the traditions to have preceded Oduduwa himself), he moved his base from the partly ruined compounds of Omologun to Idio on a low hill which gently slopes in all directions.

It was from this new base (at Idio) that the new task of reorganizing the newly emerging city of Ile-Ife began. Ife thus became one single kingdom in contrast to the former confederation of kingdoms of the pre-existing settlements. The project of building a protective wall around the city was also launched.

Peace:

Cc: niggadee, Christistruth00, nisai, YungMillionaire, rhektor, theInterpreter, gomojam, Adekunle47, r4bbit

PS: Out of “curiosity”, would someone please tell me the name of Pa IDU’s father — yes, the so-called Pa Idu, his own father. Lol. Thanks.

Oduduwa is not a Yoruba man he find himself in ife and you people refuse to ask him where he came from or chose hide his identity ( he was a Benin man)
His son oromiyan , his grandchild Oba Eweka the then Oba of Benin non of then are Yoruba

Ife is not the only kingdom Benin prince have established
Lastly egharevba the then historian you quote about Benin history is not a Benin man he is a Yoruba man with Edo name

All early Yoruba art work are from Benin. Thanks for your understanding

olawalepopoola:
No matter how we twist history, the truth will always prevail. Recent crowning of the Only of Warri says it all. The Itsekiris wanted to deny the new King his ancestral throne and right because his mother is Yoruba. The Yoruba monarch including the Balogun of Ibadanland and representative of the Ooni were at the meeting where they wanted to make a final declaration to discredit the new Olu of Warri. At the meeting the Yoruba monarch stated categorically that Itsekiris are Yorubas and nothing can change that. All the elders of Itsekiri present couldn't raise a voice against that. That was how the new Olu of Warri was crowned.
IT IS HIGH WE BEGIN TO TEACH HISTORY IN OUR PRIMARY SCHOOLS. SO IMPORTANT

They have been lying to you, if you have sense you write that the new olu of Warri almost lost his throne because his mother came from Yoruba that is to tell the blood of Yoruba is not needed yet you call itsekiri Yoruba liar go and make consultations before you start claiming others , You people should stop this your stupid claims of others here and there

YungMillionaire:
Reading through these posts I feel really embarrassed for the way the Bini revisionists go about their propaganda. It's pathetic and stupid. In Delta we have a lot of regard for Bini. But what I see on social media (not just Nairaland but twitter, tiktok etc.) makes me sad. How can you represent Bini by spreading easily debunkable lies all over the internet? This is weak and smacks of low self esteem. If you must lie at least do your homework to make sure that the lies are spurious enough to convince a few of the neutrals. Just like the ridiculous lie that turned Oduduwa an Ife man to a Bini man, these blatant lies will continue to expose you guys as incompetent propagandists. The reason some Binis desire to cut their obvious link with Yorubas is jealousy. They are jealous because Yoruba culture is very dominant. But if they are smart, they would preserve the link and use their strong Yoruba heritage to expand Bini influence (Yes I said it. Bini royalty was founded by Ife. The same way Itsekiri royalty was founded by Bini. Infact the only reason Itsekiri accepted a Bini prince was because it was understood that Bini royalty is Yoruba). But they won't do this because for some reason they foolishly think the only way to expand Bini influence is to destroy Yoruba heritage (an impossible task. How can you use weak online propaganda to destroy something centuries of slave trade and slavery could not destroy?). This is one of the dumbest strategies I have ever seen in my life. I know it is tough to be a minority tribe but stupidity will not give you relevance. Most of the places you go outside of Nigeria the only two tribes most people know are Yoruba and Igbo. If you go to France and say 'Bini' they think you are talking of Benin Republic. If you travel to South America the ONLY Nigerian words that ring a bell is Yoruba, Ife, and the names of the Yoruba dieties. So for those minority tribes in the South who have strong connections with Yorubas or Igbos why not take advantage of this connection rather than fight it? If I go to Brazil, Cuba, Colombia etc. as an Itsekiri man why shouldn't I emphasize my Yoruba heritage and still educate about my unique Itsekiri experience? Why shouldn't a Bini man do the same? Why lie to deny yourself of a rich cultural experience? Stupidity is a disease. It renders its victim blind to reality and wisdom. I weep for stupid people. There is no hope for them in this life.

Why are you not happy to hear the truth the size of Benin those not matter but the greatness in them Britain is a small country but colonies the world, tell your friends the Yoruba to Stop writing history for Benin’s they should mind their business a lot of our history will hurt them because we are telling the truth

This other was made of recent since the first one was sold in 1938 you people can’t retrieve it back so you people decided to clone another for IFe museum

Bronze making is not Yoruba culture is Benin culture
Wood carving is Benin culture
The use of bead is Benin culture
Edo did not learn anything from Yoruba
olokun is a Benin deity and does not look like this image
Oduduwa, his son oromiyon, his grandchildren are not Yoruba people.
Oduduwa came from Benin not the sky nor Mecca

Stop telling lies, this first one was the one you people suddenly discover 1938 and was sold to a newspaper company who took it to UK museum and is the only Yoruba art in Uk museum

This image some of you claim is olokun face some said is the face of past Ooni.
Please you people should be specific an image you people claim was dug from the earth 1938 with no origin how did you know what it represents instead you people started guess work, why not come and ask the Benin people am sure they will tell you

niggadee:
Oba of benin na yoruba man you benin people too stubborn like goat do your calculation yoruba population big pass una and yoruba civilised benin empire

How can you vomit this trash with your mouth

Was oduduwa a Yoruba man? If he is not how can his son oromiyon be a Yoruba man,
For the record oduduwa was an Edo man who ran to IFE for safety

This post came as a result of several post by some Yoruba stories teller trying to belittle others especially Benin’s

You brought pictures of bronze caster of 1971 and that of 2006 to make claims, you suppose to have know they got the knowledge from Benin go to Britain museum you will find Benin art work of 18 century and beyond,
where is Yoruba art work of 18 century?

stories teller

In 1938 Yoruba as a nation unearthed 16 pieces of bronze art work from someone’s compound.

Question, after that dramatic archeological exploration in 1938 ,how many of such similar discoveries have be made ever since in Yoruba land in Egypt archaeologists discover things every day why will Yoruba own be once how do they even know where it was,

Have you people ask your self where those bronze came from,
Yoruba claim to the one who taught Benin bronze making yet is only 16 Pieces of bronze you people could produce since 9th centuries that is over 1000 years, you people use 1000 years to produce 16 pieces of bronze

In European museums alone Benin art that are there is more than 10,000 pieces, then some are America not to talk of the one in Benin the hub of art work yet Yoruba have 16 pieces and is claiming to have taught Benin

niggadee:
Olodo archaeologist found many head of ife in 1938 at Wunmonije Compound in Ife,

Why archaeologists nor discover oduduwa bone, liars nor worry by the time we start revealing historical truth, Yoruba go run come Oba Benin palace their ancestral home come kneel down beg

RedboneSmith:
There is something very unsettling about the way some of you Benin people make sh.it up.

Please do not call truth sh.it, instead of the Yoruba to give credit to Edo nation for being the one that first brought civilization to them before Fulani finally colonies the Yoruba before British came, Yoruba be rewriting history to reduce Edo their ancestral land

IFE / Yoruba do not make bronze sculptures nor are they into bronze casting is purely Benin invention

Abohboy:
The British used modern technology to carbon date these back to the 9th century so is Felix Idubor some immortal man or are you just a fool? Added to that the crown used is very clearly one worn by the ooni of ife till this day and those line patterns on the face of it are synonimous to artefacts found in Ife.

Funny how Yoruba come up with stories just to be superior over Edo, if this image was Ooni look how come past Ooni did not use this type of crown except Ooni ogunwusi why was there no continuity The this picture will tell that there is no continuity in pattern

IFE bronzes mysteriously appear in 1938, this appearance has help to prove that the Yorubas also had inventions and civilization in precolonial era. But surprisingly this bronze were from Benin city and was produced by Felix idubor father the year 1931, this art work was for some Yoruba dancers who came to Oba of Benin palace to participate in Oba Eweka 11 end of year event it is never past Ooni image,Also this art skill Felix idubor developed and excel with it,

Some people said it was gifts from colonial masters and slave traders

This no longer funny

Angry Edo youth protesting along new Lagos road at textile junction chanting buhari must go with a casket