₦airaland Forum

richforever123:
Of course, they are still innocent until proven but where were they when someone killed her in her room, dragged her outside the gate without the security man noticing, dropped her there, and then went back to meticulously clean the blood but missed some spots, it is obvious they planted her body outside to make people think she was killed outside and they know nothing about it, and the domestic staff needed corporation to pull it off, some criminals are delusional and think they are so smart until they have wasted life and found out that it is not easy to kill someone and get away with it, they believe what happens in films happen in real life, degenerates just killed a Doctor because of property not worth more than 5 million

You were ONLY relying on the prosecution team to make your assertions.

The defence team will have their days in court.

Law is about evidences and how the police conducted their investigation. The police might have even contaminated the scene of crime.

This case is far from being conclusive.

I repeat the burden of proof lies with the prosecution and it must be beyond REASONABLE doubt.

Let me first ask you - is it REASONABLE for 3 total strangers to hatch a crime of this magnitude within a week of knowing themselves?

The defence only needs to introduce one REASONABLE doubt into the case and the case is dismissed.

In another perspective, too much torture can make a person says na him killed Jesus and Mohammed together.

How was the investigation conducted?

Which methods were used?

Was there any form of torture?

Was the confession made under duress?

All these would be argued in court. It’s not an open-close case yet.

The burden of proof lies with the prosecution team.

Let the case gets to court and let the prosecutor presents his case for the Government.

As for me, they are still innocent till found guilty by the court.

mignone:
Thanks for your time, bro.
If you notice that I stated somewhere that d issues we have in nigeria are fundamental, you've further proven that.

So, fact: state governors aren't "actually accountable". No problem, all of this will not last forever.

Thanks for being civil while the discourse lasted.

Our constitution is our number 1 problem. It gives too much power to the Governors and they misuse it. Ii always say they are the evils of this nation.

Imagine if each of the Governor uses just 10% honestly to face Agriculture (both crops and animals) , we will have enough to feed and even export. But no, they pay lip service to it. They are not interested because some crops will take 5 years before it starts to produce, after which , they might have left office. Their selfish and greedy thinking is that they have "worked" for another Government to reap the sweat of their labour, forgetting that governance is a continum. They will rather do wishy-washy road, steal billions while the citizens rejoice and sing their praises.

Governors are accountable but ONLY to the State House of Assembly who has the power to remove them for any infraction. But what we have in Nigeria is sad. The Governors, knowing this fact will "buy" the state house of assembly members by buying their expensive nomination forms for them so that they can do their biddings once they are in the house.

The citizens too are not intelligent voters . When you vote in APC as a Governor, let PDP opposition be more in the Assembly. This will increase the level of scrutiny of the Governor's actions and the citizens will be the winner. But alas no!. The citizens dont take state house of assembly election as important. They just vote for the party . They do not even know the antecedents of the individuals on the ballot papers. They rejoice when they announce that APC or PDP aspirant is the Governor and the the same party also clear all seats in the House of assembly. That is why the speaker and the Governor become paddy paddy. Tell me how can the Governor's actions be scrutinized by the so-called State House of Assembly.

Like you said, our problem is complex and fundamental - it cuts across both the citizens and the leaders.

mignone:
Of course not. They should make it transparent enough for the people it is meant for to know.
After which, they will not receive another without proof that d earlier ones had been disbursed.

Nigeria constitution does not make the Governor to be accountable to the Presidency.

"The Proof" you are asking for is a form of report to the Presidency on how the rice is distributed. That will be an overreach by the President in our constitution. The Governor is constitutionally allowed to give account ONLY to the State House of Assembly. Once the Assembly approves, the Governor is all in the clear.

And who are in the State House of Assembly? The one the Governor bought their electoral form for? Their election is the one the populace don't care about - they simply thumbprint. So why should the President be blamed for a non functional State House of Assembly where the Governor and the speaker are friends.

In an attempt to blame the Presidency, let us do so with facts and not ASSUMPTIONS.

mignone:
In what ways does d presidency exonerates itself from issues as such?

Do you expect the Presidency to share the rice in each state or you expect the Governors to give account on how the rice is shared to the President? Just asking

While I do not support the idea of these rubbish palliiatives, at least President distributed rice to all the states to ameliorate the condition of the citizens to certain extent, however the big elephant in the room sit on it - the Governors.

Till each state directs the fury of the protest to the Governor instead of the President.

Oyo State Governor has never taken leave in his life as a Governor but will commence leave on Monday during the protest. Is that not the time, as the number i Chief Security Officer, to ensure calm and security in the states. But he is fearful like the rest and tactically taking the easier route out to escape the fury of the people.

Deal with the Governors in your states first, who squander monthly allocations due to your state before you think of Presidency.

Nigeria went to this Olympic to be beaten in all events so far.

Gone are the days when we would have posted some medals on the table.

Shame!

Islie:
https://punchng.com/30-million-gsm-lines-not-properly-linked-to-nin-telcos/

He should simply shut up.

Unblock all the lines.

That is the simple directives from the regulatory body.

Dont teach us on the need to have a database which you cannot even secure.

God1000:
The protest will continue untill the president accede to our demands and reverse all his bad policies affecting the Nigerian people, I sympathize with the family of police officer that was killed today, I also condemn and sympathize with the families of all the protesters that died today.

The police, army and other security agencies should know that this protest will benefit them and their families too, so they should not kill protesters that are demanding for good governance.

You sat down in your house, egging people on.

integrity16:
You are even more ignorant than I give you credit for, So it is only the President that constitute the current government?

This is not even about constitutional authority, it's about the political will to commit to nation building. It starts from the TOP!

Moreover the last I checked, it is very obvious that t[b]his current National Assembly bends to the whims and caprises of the President as they have proven to a RUBBER STAMP Assembly so its not rocket science[/b].

Please, don't quote me again. You are volatile.

Every time you typed, you goofed.

So you would be blame Tinubu for a rubber stamp assembly? Was he the one who asked you to vote in men and women with zero integrity from your constituencies into the Federal Legislature.

One day, i suspect you will blame Tinubu for your dick not rising.

integrity16:
Calling my education half baked is not only insulting, it's also derogatory but I will let it slide because it's pure traditional of nairalanders to first throw shade of insults mostly when they think they have a superior argument.

Listen, who ever told you Nigeria is broke is completely more out of touch with the reality than you are. I am telling you this as someone who is more closer to the corridor of power than you are. Secondly, the problem with Nigeria is that we have more of spending problems than revenue problems.

You cannot say you are broke when you are spending billions for something that isn't directly linked to the development of the nation like Pilgrimage, renovation of houses, buying SUVs, I could go on and on.

Student grants is possible if the government have the political will to see it through. Do you know how much government spends to oil the National Assembly? If the government decides to change the composition of National Assembly from the current Bi Camera to Unicameral Assembly, would that not free up funds for more projects?

When the issue of protest became public knowledge, didn't you see the robust responses from Government? We all saw the robust energy at which government demonized it, from the president to the ministers, traditional rulers, religious leaders. This is to show you that when the government set their hearts to do something, they will.

So please stop spreading this beer parlor gist that government is broke, it's a very lame excuse.

Look at what you typed as someone who "claims" to be close to power. Look at the bolded.

Tell me where a Nigeria President has the constitutional authority to unilaterally change Federal Legislature from Bicameral to unicameral.

And you were angry when I referred to you as "half baked". Can you see I was right about you?

NiRfreak:
U, Tinubu and ur family are deranged..,oponu
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Many business owners in open places and major road shut their shop ...that's common sense and respect for for the protest even if they won't join...,,his vehicle shd be burnt down....these are people that work against general interest. In a community.... individual interest can only come to play when there's peace and no need for emergency community solidarity,...,this is simple logic......but many of u are toooo selfish and brainless to think about community interest and survival which protest is about... over ur selfish interest

Read what you typed again. You just ranted without substance.

Egging people on to burn the vehicle of people who decided not to join a protest. Calling them selfish because they chose not to join.

It is your like that spend forever at Kirikiri prison and you would now be claiming ignorance of the law before a judge.

Anyway, idiots like you are holed up in your room while encouraging others to cause harm in the society.

Malikdking:
Ode !!!
So the soldiers wey dey die for war for a meager salary for Naija worth dying right ?

I don't always dignify your likes with a response but you are so silly to upend the discourse.

You didn't even follow the trail of the discourse, you just jumped in like a mad man that you are.

Stop changing the trajectory of a thread you are unaware of how it starts or what is being discussed.

Consider this as my last piece to you, I am not the source of your hunger and frustration.

NiRfreak:
They must be very Stoopid to travel on protest day... despite weeks of announcements....they should be made to alight from the vehicle while the vehicle is burnt down to teach them the lesson that collective interest must supercede individual selfish wish and interest...fooolish Nigerians

Being part of a protest is by choice.

While exercising your right to protest, you cant stamp on other's people fundamental right to freedom of movement.

Stop sounding like a deranged animal here.

43Ronin:
In canada. I saw the funds with my own eyes.
In USA my cuz did not pay a single dime for her education to become a medical surgeon. She joined united states ROTC and they paid her tuition even until becoming a surgeon. She was just promoted last month to a Major. The army paid every single dime and since she has served more than 8 years already she will have nothing to payback to the army. Why do you think international fees are very high? They use the funds from international students to subsidize education for their citizens. Pls ask around. Even in Nigeria some NigerDelta state govts were paying bursaries of 50 ton100k per session in 2003-2007 I don't know of now

You saw the funds with your own eyes but could not give any details surrounding it?

ROTC that you are referring to is called the Reserved Officer Training Corps; it is a way to enlist people into the miliitary. When they provide you scholarship, you MUST serve minimum of 8 years with the US military AFTER graduation. Once you have enlisted, you have paid back the cost of your scholarship, which could even be with your life.

Grant does NOT come with a condition. When a grant is given, you don't have to do anything compulsorily after graduation.

Can you see you are a tad disillusioned?

You guys are always quick to point to US and UK where their citizens pay lot of taxes. Most of you have never paid a single penny to Nigeria Government from your cradle to adulthood.

Saao:
these particular issues are caused by the president. He increased fuel without consulting the governors on the day of his swearing in. He float the Naira without thinking about the implications, these are the major causes of the current hyperinflation.

I am sorry but you are making zero sense here.

43Ronin:
You are the illiterate and unbaked because western countries give thier students grants + the option of loan. My roommate got a grant of $20k + loan of 15k to study law for year 1. He took the grant and left the loan. Govt has money they have done nothing for us for years.

Organisations, like world bank, NED, UN, private foundations mostly give grant.

You cant expect Nigeria with her economic outlook to start giving grant. You guys are simply unintelligent.

Like a baby, you do not know the implications of what you ask for.

Don't tell me "western countries", let us know the country where your friend was offered a grant of 20k USD and 15k loan to study law for a year 1. I am interested in knowing the country that gives such a generous offer for a non-tax payer.

When you guys want to lie here, you start by saying - "my friend", "my cousin", "my brother". . Tell us the fictitious country, man

integrity16:
The embezzled 90 billion used to subsidize Pilgrimage could have taken care of students grants. Don you think?

Illiteracy and half baked education cannot make you make a coherent and robust argument.

First go and check the meaning of "Grant" as compared to "Loan", then you will understand why your so-called saner climes like US and UK could not afford it. Just like the person that held the placard, I knew you didnt know the difference.

You seem to have an exagerrated opinion about Nigeria - Let me tell you - "Nigeria is broke".

Nigeria used to be a rich nation but maladministration over the years had destroyed its economy.

So, don't only wait for "grant", you can also ask the president to build house for each one of you because you are a citizen of an oil rich nation.

Anunakeeh:
The coccaine sniffer state is NEXT!!!

You are hiding in your room but showing direction to protester.

Hypocrite and a Coward!

Asquare84:
Jobless Nigerian youths.

Have you been to Asokoro before?

If they open the gate of Aso Rock for you, fear won't let you enter, I swear.

Do you think the residence of the President is like that of your village Oba?

Thieving politicians will be laughing at the billion that would be budgeted to replace the lost items.

Foolish protesters enabling the politicans to steal their commonwealth.

Is this how to protest?

i read one of the placards stating " we need student grant NOT loans".

These guys are more misplaced than their thieving politicians.

Where will Nigeria fund education for her teeming population with grants ?. Even almighty UK and US dare not

press9jatv:
Trump will defeat India American Kamala Harris before the day break in November presidential election 🗳

So, because you see this crowd, you became emotional and concluded that Trump would win.

You are hilarious!

naptu2:
Peter Obi @PeterObi

Let the truth be told Onyeka Owenu in her lifetime had a better chance of being a President than Peter Obi if she was fielded as an aspirant.

She had done more for Nigeria than Peter Obi would ever dream of.

Peter Obi keeps dividing the Nation while Onyeka Owenu unified the Nation.

Likes of Onyeka and Sunny Okosun were gem, and ran across the spectrum of our country. Devastating News.

Tenshades:
You can put that sim back in your phone to check.

Thank you

Tenshades:
NCC has directed that all barred lines be unbarred

Mine got unbarred this morning

Glo barred my line two months ago.

Does this NCC guideline applies to individual like me?

Sabadon:
very any how mtn, I go port without looking back

Don’t port to Glo. Don’t port from frying pan to fire

Nigeria first success after 6 events at the olympic

press9jatv:
August 1st protest will surely hold as planned. No retreat no surrender

Will you be part of it sincerely or you are egging people on while you watch big brother Naija in the confine of your room.

Gbajabiamila1:
As a Governor that has been collecting money every month from the FG, what have you done to ameliorate the hardship being felt by the people of Oyo State? Abi na only road that costs "billions" we go chop? . A lot of arable lands in the state, what has the government done to improve agricultural activities in the towns and villages to make food surplus and affordable?

Thank you.

Our people are so docile.

See how they were praising Makinde on the first page of this thread.

A Governor that deserves to be stoned.

chiiraq802:
No be Cho Cho Cho.... show workings. If you attack Israel...Israel will attack you back.

If turkey attacks Israel and Israel attack back, will NATO article 5 be triggered?

Turkey is a NATO member, will US fulfil her mandate of striking Israel who is US strong ally?

This Looks quite complex to navigate.

SeyiI Makonde was trying to play politics to evade the anger of the people.

He was trying to pretend to be on the side of the people.

If anyone deserves to face the wrath of the protesters, he is one of them. He has sold all Oyo states commonwealth in form of land to private hands. When association of architects protested against him, he seized all their cars for months.

Don’t be fooled by this pretender of a Governor. He is never by your side.