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truthman2012:
Hello fake truthman2013.

Your bible interpretation is terrible o!

''Thou shall not kill'' is one of the ten commandments. It is a law operating within the community of Israel. It did apply to war situation between two nations.

lol...the other verse nko? can't you see it's contradictory? fake truthman2012

truthman2012:
Where did you see ''Oneness of allah'' in that verse? Stop lying!!! Don't you have conscience?


You guys will keep changing the wordings of the quran till the interpretation will no more tally with the arabic text.

All the messengers of Allah preached the same message (belief) revealed to them,the oneness of Allah, its only the jurisprudence that changes. I'm explaining to you, when you explain the bible where do you get aid? the quran is not translated jus like that. check other translations for better understanding, why would I lie? na wa for you ooh ..
Keep deviating from the op

ClintonNzedimma:
if you lost a loved one during 9/11, u wudnt say this.
Good Job to the US

That 9/11 was an inside job, American govt are terrorists too

himkers:
He was an orthodox muslim

By d way, was Hitler a terrorists?? Mumu

No he was a shoe shiner
a terrorist is one who uses violent acts (or the threat of violent acts) intended to create fear (terror), perpetrated for an economic, religious, political, or ideological goal, and which deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants.
How is Hitler not? Public shooting, The US government and so on

Scholar8200:
Op, kindly answer the following:

1. Define the term Inspiration.
2. Succinctly differentiate between Inspiration and Dictation.

Answer the OP first and I'll answer you

truthman2012:
[Quran16:43 YusuAli] And before thee also the messengers We sent were but men, to whom We granted INSPIRATION: if ye realise this not, ask of those who possess the Message

[Quran 16:43 Pickthal] And We sent not (as Our messengers) before thee other than men whom We INSPIRED - Ask the followers of the Remembrance if ye know not.

Is the quran correct?

Yes the Quran is correct, it's just that you don't understand what it means.

And We sent not (as Our Messengers) before you (O Muhammad SAW) any but men, (Jesus included) whom We inspired, (to preach and invite mankind to believe in the Oneness of Allah). So ask of those who know the Scripture [learned men of the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)], if you know not. Clearly, this ain't talking about you as you don't believe in oneness of Allah, you don't believe in Muhammad sef
Now answer the OP

Rexyl:
He was an atheist

Oh! I thought all terrorists are Muslims

himkers:
Not all Muslims are terrorists (it's a lie o ), But ALL terrorists are Muslims e.g OSAMA, shekau, Al-baghadadi, Al-AllahuAhbar

Hitler too was a Muslim... mumu

teeowl:
and... some dudes can read arabic... so?

Whenever You read you understand, in essence u r learning and that's education

Kutunban:
Your write up is filled with absurdity and lacks intellectual structure. Why will an educated person present his or her grievances with the above factor to a particular region generalizing it? I could remember that was the type of statement PGEJ made and her husband lost the love some northerners had for him. Need I remind you that those heinous things you claimed being practice by the northerners are religious and cultural practices which are practice in most part of the world with educated entities. So if you really want to castigate the north bring up real facts and not frivolous points. Guess you are not that educated, perhaps you are one of those who struggle to get a college degree and you come here and spew absurdity. Mind you the north is a diversified region with different cultural and religious believes, seek more education about a thing you don't understand before debating about it.

I rep Arewa
I rep Kaduna
You call it North but we call Home

Yeah, they think it's Muslims in the north, deep down it's all about religion.

BimiOne:
NOT ALL NORTHERNERS ARE MUSLIMS PLEASE, I am a Northerner and i detest those practices you mentioned.

That's their problem, they thought all northerners are Muslims, in summary, it's all about religion. Nothing more

The first one tho,
Fo reals?

The first one tho,

benedictnsi:
If you open that kids account ,you will not see anything less than 12bn ..... Dem go don even give d pikin one local government the pay am allocation join


Just guessing

O boi u sabi guess o, wetn u chop fr jamb?

jomoh:
Wrong thread.

















Turns back and walks out.

Aye nobody cares

Peter Denying him

Mat 26:69 Now Peter was sitting without in the court: and a maid came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus the Galilaean. Mat 26:70 But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest. Mat 26:71 And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and saith unto them that were there, This man also was with Jesus of Nazareth. Mat 26:72 And again he denied with an oath, I know not the man. Mat 26:73 And after a little while they that stood by came and said to Peter, Of a truth thou also art one of them; for thy speech maketh thee known. Mat 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, I know not the man. And straightway the cock crew. Mat 26:75 And Peter remembered the word which Jesus had said, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

Mar 14:66 And as Peter was beneath in the court, there cometh one of the maids of the high priest; Mar 14:67 and seeing Peter warming himself, she looked upon him, and saith, Thou also wast with the Nazarene, even Jesus. Mar 14:68 But he denied, saying, I neither know, nor understand what thou sayest: and he went out into the porch; and the cock crew. Mar 14:69 And the maid saw him, and began again to say to them that stood by, This is one of them. Mar 14:70 But he again denied it. And after a little while again they that stood by said to Peter, of a truth thou art one of them; for thou art a Galilaean. Mar 14:71 But he began to curse, and to swear, I know not this man of whom ye speak. Mar 14:72 And straightway the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word, how that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

We can here see some differences between the 2 Gospels, in Matthew, it tells that Jesus told Peter that he will deny him 3 times after the cock crows, while in Mark, it tells that Jesus told Peter that the cock will crow twice before Peter denies him thrice, and there is no place that Jesus tells both statements since the situation happened quickly (See Matthew 26:31-35, Mark 14:27-31), and in Luke, the statement was much clearer that the cock will not crow before Peter denies him thrice(Luke 22:34 and Matthew 26:34), unlike Mark which tells that the cock crew before he denies him thrice (Mark 14:68). Also in Matthew it says that a maid and then another maid asked him, while in Mark, it says that the same maid asked him twice.

The hour of crucifixion:

Mar 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.

Joh 19:14 Now it was the Preparation of the passover: it was about the sixth hour. And he saith unto the Jews, Behold, your King!

So according to Mark, he was crucified at the third hour, while according to John, he was still at the Pilate at the sixth hour, the Christian commentators answer this by telling that what is told in Mark is in Jewish time at 9 am, while in case of John, this was by Roman time at six am, and so crucifixion was also at 9 am, but there are some problems with that conclusion, the first problem is that it is supposed that the writer of John according to Christians is the disciple John, who is Jewish, so it is not logical that he uses the Roman timing, especially that he was talking about the preparation of the Passover, and what is the need that the Holy Spirit reveals to Mark in Hebrew timing and to John in Roman timing? Besides, it is really a difficult possibility, otherwise how could it be that denying of Peter, the trial, then crucifixion happened only in 3 hours?

Here we shall discuss some of the contradictions in the crucifixion story between the Gospels. When there is a trial in a court, to accept what the witnesses say, there must be no variation between what they are saying, but if there was a wide variation between what the witnesses say, we reject both narrations since there is no proof to overwhelm a witness over another, these variations between the writers of the Gospels prove that they didn’t witness what happened, these were stories present at their time, and everyone wrote what he heard, and these variations are a proof that the story of crucifixion in the Bible can’t be accepted.

Betrayal by Judas and Seizing Jesus:

Gospel Matthew says:

Mat 26:47 And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priest and elders of the people. Mat 26:48 Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that is he: take him. Mat 26:49 And straightway he came to Jesus, and said, Hail, Rabbi; and kissed him. Mat 26:50 And Jesus said unto him, Friend, do that for which thou art come. Then they came and laid hands on Jesus, and took him. Mat 26:51 And behold, one of them that were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and smote the servant of the high priest, and struck off his ear.
While Gospel John says:

Joh 18:3 Judas then, having received the band of soldiers, and officers from the chief priests and the Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons. Joh 18:4 Jesus therefore, knowing all the things that were coming upon him, went forth, and saith unto them, Whom seek ye? Joh 18:5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, who betrayed him, was standing with them. Joh 18:6 When therefore he said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground. Joh 18:7 Again therefore he asked them, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth. Joh 18:8 Jesus answered, I told you that I am he; if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way: Joh 18:9 that the word might be fulfilled which he spake, Of those whom thou hast given me I lost not one. Joh 18:10 Simon Peter therefore having a sword drew it, and struck the high priest’s servant, and cut off his right ear. Now the servant’s name was Malchus. Joh 18:11 Jesus therefore said unto Peter, Put up the sword into the sheath: the cup which the Father hath given me, shall I not drink it? Joh 18:12 So the band and the chief captain, and the officers of the Jews, seized Jesus and bound him,
We can see that there is a large difference between the two stories, in Matthew, it says that once Judas came, he went and kissed Jesus, while in John, it says that Jesus asked them”whom you seek?”, and they answered him: “Jesus”, and when he said ” I am he”, all this happened and Judas was only standing with them, and it couldn’t have happened that kissing him was in between because the script in Matthew is very clear that Judas went straightway to kiss Jesus. And it’s clear in Matthew that the sign to know Jesus was the kiss, while in John, Jesus identified himself, and only what Judas did is that he guided them, and where is the event that they fell when they heard Jesus saying “I am he”? Where did Matthew tell that? Another difference between the two stories is that in Matthew, Peter cut the high priest’s servant’s ear after they seized Jesus, while in John, Peter did that before they seize him.

Christians usually argue that the Bible was written by writers who were inspired by the Holy Spirit. If this is true, then we shouldn’t find any fault within the Bible. Is this really the case? This article gives some citations by Adam Clarke, the Christian commentator where he shows that Ezra fell in some faults when he wrote the Chronicles This can be highlighted in his commentary.

Faults of the Writer of Ezra Acknowledged by Adam Clarke

Adam Clarke tells in his commentary on 1Chronicles 7:6:

“The sons of Benjamin; Bela, and Becher and Jediael – In Gen_46:21, ten sons

of Benjamin are reckoned; ….. In Num_26:38, etc ., five sons only of Benjamin are
mentioned, Bela, Ashbel, Ahiram, Shupham, and Hupham: and Ard and Naaman are
there said to be the sons of Bela; ….. The rabbins say that Ezra, who wrote this book, did not know whether some of these were sons or grandsons; and they intimate also that the tables from which he copied were often defective, and here we must leave all such matters.”

http://www.studylight.org/com/acc/view.cgi?bk=12&ch=7

We can see here that Adam Clarke admits that there were some defective tables from which he copied. The question now is: If the Bible writers were inspired by the Holy Spirit, why were they misled by copying from a defective copy?

Then Adam Clarke continues in 1Chronicles 8:29 saying:

“And at Gibeon – This passage to the end of the 38th verse is found with a little variety in the names, 1Ch_9:35- 44.

The rabbins say that Ezra, having found two books that had these passages with a variety in the names, as they agreed in general, he thought best to insert them both, not being able to discern which was the best. “

http://www.studylight.org/com/acc/view.cgi?bk=12&ch=8

How can we say that Ezra or any Bible writer were really inspired? If the one who rewrote the Torah was a prophet who took the revelation from God, he wouldn’t have fell in that problem, and he would have been able to distinguish the defective copies.

Joshkid:
But fornication is right?

I tok am?
Na gayness we dey tok hia o, sorry if you're gay

GAYness is ungodly, not safe

LoL

This...

Jagoon:
The lies muslims tell themselves to defend their cult.

Just like the OP.
Talking about cult, looking at how worship is perfomd in churches by pastors, one will say which one is cult.

Jagoon:
The lies muslims tell themselves to defend their cult.

ABI? ARE THEY MUSLIMS TOO?
www.cnn.com/2015/02/03/intl_world/amanpour-didier-francois/

Even Christians after going through the quoted verse number, they'll know it's full of errors. Learn

malvisguy212:
long before that happen (if it true) allah has already stop sending sign. so who empower muhammed to split the moon? Satan or God? Will go change is mind if it him?

Long before when?
Surah Al-Isra, Verse 59
And nothing has Us from sending [this message, like the earlier ones,] with miraculous signs [in its wake], save [Our knowledge] that the people of olden times [only too often] gave the lie to them: thus, We provided for [the tribe of] Thamud the she-camel as a light-giving portent, and they sinned against it. And never did We send those signs for any other purpose than to convey a warning.
@ the bolded, does it say what you're insisting?
My friend if you can't understand simple sentences like these, how do you deal with the Bible full of biases?

Jagoon:
So it's mohamed and his band of terrorists that are following christ abi

However you call it. YES

Jagoon:
According to a recent Pew Research Center study, Christianity and Islam will be near parity by 2050, with Christians expected to comprise 31.4 percent of the planet's population against 29.7 percent who follow Islam.

The study said Islam will grow more than twice as fast as any other major religion over the next half century because of a higher fertility rate in Muslim dominated countries.

However, Muslims frightened by the inhumane acts by the ISIS, which the militants claim they are doing in the name of their god Allah, are now questioning their very own faith, and presumably considering to leave it, CBS News reported on Friday.

This is backed by testimonies from missionaries working in the Islamic world who noted that more Muslims have converted to Christianity in the last 14 years since the devastating Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the US. The number of converts in the recent period, they said, is greater than during the entire 14 centuries of Islamic history.

"Many Muslims are saying, 'If ISIS is Islam, I'm leaving.' Some are becoming atheists," said Brother Rachid, who hosts a Christian program reaching Muslims called "Daring Questions" in Arabic language. "There is a huge wave of atheism in the Arab world right now and many are turning to Jesus Christ. Islam was never faced with this crisis before."

"Islam is going to collapse," added Brother Rachid, whose father is a Moroccan imam who lived as a secret Christian convert for 15 years.

Pastor Fouad Rasho of Angered Alliance Church in Sweden, who has baptized more than a hundred former Muslims, maintained that ISIS causes many Muslims to come to Jesus.

"Every week I meet one or more persons who come to me and want to know more about Christianity and the Bible because they are very angry about being a Muslim. They don't want to continue to be Muslim," said Imran, who is also an immigrant from Syria.

Many converts keep their shift in religion a secret, fearing for their lives and for being an outcast. Imram (not his real name), a British college student from a Pakistani immigrant family, said leaving Islam is tough.

"If someone leaves Islam and becomes an apostate, he is thrown out of his family; his family will be the first ones to abandon him," he said. "His friends will reject him and he will be killed or he will be persecuted. A lot of my friends said, 'This is the last time I'm talking to you because you disrespected the prophet Mohammed, you disrespected Islam.'"

source: http://www.christiantoday.com/article/isis.seen.undermining.islamic.faith.as.more.muslims.convert.to.christianity/55622.htm

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB

Tjayjosh:
The sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. (Romans 8:7). Jonnydon22. Like i always say to you: you can never comprehend what the scripture says about christ unless you have the spirit of God in you.

U wan claim spirit now abi? Spirit indeed
Abi u wan claim god too

Jagoon:
Story they are not following Christ unlike the camel prick suckers that are following mohamed's exact teachings

You got it right, all ye are not following Christ

truthman2012:
For sure, before the recent islamic development, muslims don't worship on Sundays, why did they now add it to their day of worship?

So you have not seen muslims go to (asigir or something) on 31st Dec.?

I don't understand the worship you're talking about, but I know a Muslim worship everyday, on 31st? I don't know, cos it's not part of my religion, there might be.