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OREMUSSANCTUS:
Ma Bilbe never mentioned or talked abt a mad man known as muhamMAD
Nufin relating to him at all
Far far before d plague(muhamMAD) was born, d Book has bin written
So muslims shld stop mixing or tinking or believing wad one old man told dem da d mad man is in d Bible

Instead of defending the post u end up making a fool outta urself. is that wat d Bible also teaches? No proof only curses :/

millionaireman:
It is easier to govern 1000 jobless graduates than to govern 10 almajiris. Next time, vote to encourage education, don't vote anyone whose O 'level certificate could not be found.

U r disgrace to our nation

Mogidi:
Has anyone noticed those trekking for #babaonechance have no certificates whilst those trekking for GEJ are graduates?

Follow him on twitter @OladeleNihi

maturity is nt based on Certificate
As in u can see d shame... Graduates under gej trekking fr money because d certificateless people hav done it. copy copy : )

Mogidi:
Has anyone noticed those trekking for #babaonechance have no certificates whilst those trekking for GEJ are graduates?

Follow him on twitter @OladeleNihi

maturity is nt based on Certificate
As in u can see d shame... Graduates under gej trekking fr money because d certificateless people hav done it. copy copy

philGeo:
we dont kill, if it were my brothers that hunt for V in Paradise, they for kill every living things today, it will be better to do Drug than BOKO.

Am I boko?
do u see imams raping or bombing

CHRISTIANITY

thorpido:
The problem with muslims who read the bible and come up with arguments like this is that they always choose to ignore further study but stick with one part.

The bible says that after Jesus spoke those words,the Jews picked up stones to stone him because they said He was making Himself equal to God(john 5:18).They understood the meaning of what He said!They knew He meant I AM God,just as God said I AM when He spoke to Moses.

So Op,tell me why they claimed he blasphemed?

Jesus clearly said that the Father is the only God, and that He is his God, and that he doesn’t know the hour,
…... Christians say that he clearly declared his deity through lots of scriptures, I say actually he didn’t say it clearly, but all these are conclusions made, and by
examining them, we find that they are not real. The jews were never true followers of jesus. Many prophets sent bfr him they disbelieved
So let’s answer the Question: Did Jesus really say I am God?

This..

Answering the verses Christians use to prove Jesus is God
Jesus (Peace be upon him) never said the
word “I am God” nor “I am the second person
in Trinity”, nor “I am human and divine”, but
as I mentioned before, Jesus clearly said that
the Father is the only God, and that He is
his God, and that he doesn’t know the hour,
…..etc. Christians say that he clearly
declared his deity through lots of scriptures, I
say actually he didn’t say it clearly, but all
these are conclusions made, and by
examining them, we find that they are not
real. So let’s answer the Question: Did Jesus
really say I am God?
Comparison between Jesus and God showing
that Jesus is NOT God
“Before Abraham was born, I
am!”
This actually is not a proof that Jesus is God
because he is eternal, because this language
was present in the Bible, it only means that
he was in God’s foreknowledge, the same as
what said concerning Jeremiah and Paul:
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I
knew thee, and before thou camest forth out
of the womb I sanctified thee; I have
appointed thee a prophet unto the nations.
Eph 1:4 even as he chose us in him before
the foundation of the world, that we should
be holy and without blemish before him in
love:
The context also proves this when he said
before:
Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see
my day; and he saw it, and was glad. Joh
8:57 The Jews therefore said unto him, Thou
art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen
Abraham? Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them,
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham
was born, I am.
Jesus (Peace be upon him) meant here is
that Abraham (Peace be upon him) rejoiced
when he knew that Jesus (Peace be upon
him) will be from his descendants, and this is
clear through the word “my day”, he didn’t
say:”when he saw me”, this clearly means
that he meant that Abraham knew that he
will be raised one day, so he was rejoiced for
that day.
The word “I AM” doesn’t claim divinity,
anyone can say I am. The word “ego eimi” if
it really meant Jehovah, it wouldn’t have
been translated but it have been written
Jehovah, especially when we see that the
same word “ego eimi” was said by others:
Some said, “It is he.” Others said, “No, but
he is like him.” He kept saying, “I am the
man.” (John 9:9)
Is the beggar God? Of course not, but it
actually means “I am the Messiah”, and this
is very clear with what he said to the
Samaritan woman:
Joh 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know
that Messiah cometh (he that is called
Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto
us all things. Joh 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I
that speak unto thee am he.
Which was said in other translation:
(MKJV) Jesus said to her, I AM, the One
speaking to you.
This is a very clear proof that he didn’t mean
to Jehovah by this word, and the context can
show that as above.
“I and the Father are one”:
Well, this word in itself is not a proof that he
claims divinity, for the unity can be unity in
aim, for example what Jesus said concerning
the disciples:
Joh 17:22 And the glory which thou hast
given me I have given unto them; that they
may be one, even as we are one;
Of course this verse doesn’t mean that they
are one by body, but by aim and faith, it is
the same also concerning John 10:30. Dr.
Thomas Constable, a Christian commentator
acknowledges this on his notes on John
10:30:
“Jesus did not mean that He and the Father
were the same person of the Godhead. If He
had meant that, He would have used the
masculine form of the word translated
“one” (Gr. heis). Instead He used the neuter
form of the word (Gr. hen). He meant that He
and the Father were one in their action. This
explanation also harmonized with the context
since Jesus had said that He would keep His
sheep safe (v. 28) and His Father would keep
them safe (v. 29)……..First, Jesus’ claim to
oneness does not in itself prove the Son’s
unity in essence with the Father. In 17:22,
Jesus prayed that His disciples might be one
as He and the Father were one, namely, in
their purpose and beliefs…….In short, this
verse does not say that Jesus was claiming
to be of the same essence as God. Here He
claimed to function in union with the Father.
However the context and other statements in
this Gospel show that His unity with the
Father extended beyond a functional unity
and did involve essential metaphysical unity.”

jesus-is-muslim.net/did-jesus-really-say-i-am-god/

jcross19:
lol a powerless gods for telling the future , that allah don't know any other language than arabic ,even some men can speak more than 20 languages but your don't hear your dialect don't you know that allah is not supreme at all if not why can't you pray in your language?

WAT IS DIS ONE SAYING?

The Islamic State militant group is claiming
responsibility for Sunday's attack on a
convention center outside Dallas, Texas, where a
contest for cartoons depicting Islam's Prophet
Muhammad was taking place.
There was no immediate comment from U.S.
officials on the Islamic State claim.
The extremist group made the announcement
Tuesday on its radio station, saying "two of the
soldiers of the caliphate" carried out Sunday's
attack on a free speech event in the town of
Garland.
"We tell America that what is coming will be
even bigger and more bitter," the Islamic State
group said in its statement, the first time it had
claimed responsibility for an attack on U.S. soil.
IS link unknown
It was unclear whether the group had an actual
hand in planning the operation, or whether the
two suspects had pledged allegiance to the
group and carried out the attack on their own.
Police have identified the assailants in the attack
as Elton Simpson, 31, and Nadir Soofi, 34, who
shared an apartment in Phoenix, Arizona. The
pair opened fire on the conference center,
wounding a security guard, before they were shot
and killed by a Garland police officer.
Court documents show that Simpson had been
under surveillance since 2006 and convicted in
2010 of lying to FBI agents over his desire to
join violent jihad in Somalia.
FBI agents and police searched the two men's
home in Phoenix, cordoning off the apartment
complex and evacuating residents for several
hours.
Simpson's father, Dunston, told ABC News his
son was "always a good kid" but said they had
"some very serious differences."
Dunston Simpson said in the interview that his
son, who he said worked in a dentist's office,
simply "made a bad choice."
"We are Americans and we believe in America,"
Dunston Simpson said. "What my son did
reflects very badly on my family."
Joe Harn, a spokesman for the Garland, Texas,
police department said that while the motivation
for the attack remains unknown, "obviously they
were there to shoot people." Police found
ammunition and luggage in the attackers' car,
but no bombs despite initial suspicions.
An organization called the American Freedom
Defense Initiative, also known as Stop the
Islamization of America. sponsored the event,
which offered a $10,000 prize for the winner.
Artist Bosch Fawstin, a New York native born to
Albanian Muslim immigrants, won for a depiction
of a sword-wielding prophet in a turban
shouting, "You can't draw me."
'Freedom of speech'
AFDI executive director Pamela Geller told CNN
the event was "about freedom of speech." The
group's website said more than 350 cartoons
were submitted to "show that Americans will not
be cowed by violent Islamist intimidation."
A bomb squad, the Federal Bureau of
Investigation, a SWAT team and the U.S. Bureau
of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had
been involved in preparations for security around
the event for months, Garland police said. The
group reportedly paid $10,000 for the extra
protection.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which
maintains data on hate groups throughout the
United States, calls AFDI an "anti-Muslim
extremist" organization.
Dutch politician Geert Wilders, a critic of Islam
who said last week the United States should ban
Muslim immigrants, was the keynote speaker at
Sunday's event. He mentioned on Twitter the
shots being fired and said he left the building
after his address.
Many Muslims find depictions of the Prophet
Muhammad to be insulting to Islam. The issue
has sparked tensions with those who see the
drawings as a free speech issue.
In January, two gunmen attacked the French
satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, which had
featured multiple cartoons depicting the Prophet
Muhammad, killing 12 staff members.

m.voanews.com/a/islamic-state-says-it-sent-gunmen-on-texas-shooting-spree/2749595.html

mtcheew:

Her mother should have guessed she was a fanatic as a Christian. when she would pray and pray and pray. The worst thing that can happen to anyone who is obsessed with religion is for him to discover Islam.
That is the problem in the north. Those northerners already have violent tendencies. They lack education. As if that is not enough, they were introduced to the Islamic religion.
northerners+ignorance+islam=terrorism.

Fool... Islam doesnt evn permit women to fight

OLAADEGBU:
Maybe they are not Muslims. Could they have been Buddhists?

Probably

OLAADEGBU:
What was she, a Mormon?

maybe, or not, Do you kno who ur lord is? do u read d Bible? that's y u r a xtian n vice versa

truthman2012:
They won't come if they lack the lies they will tell.

Surah As-Saff, Verse 6:
And [this happened, too,] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O children of Israel! Behold, I am an apostle of God unto you, [sent] to confirm the truth of whatever there still remains of the Torah, and to give [you] the glad tiding of an apostle who shall come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he [whose coming Jesus had foretold] came unto them with all evidence of the truth, they said: "This [alleged message of his] is [nothing but] spellbinding eloquence!".

truthman2012:
They won't come if they lack the lies they will tell.

Surah As-Saff, Verse 6:
And [this happened, too,] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O children of Israel! Behold, I am an apostle of God unto you, [sent] to confirm the truth of whatever there still remains of the Torah, and to give [you] the glad tiding of an apostle who shall come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he [whose coming Jesus had foretold] came unto them with all evidence of the truth, they said: "This [alleged message of his] is [nothing but] spellbinding eloquence!"

truthman2012:
Let's not talk about this for now as it will derail the thread, otherwise I would have asked you to provide proofs of which part of the bible was tampered with and tell me what was the original statement from authentic Christian source and not from muslims and atheist perspectives.



This is not the point. The point is: Allah didn't mention how, when he created Eve. No mention of her name is made. Period.

How about the hadith u quoted? Hadiths r sayings of d prophet u kno

OLAADEGBU:
Why would his fellow Muslims kill him?

Why do boko haram kill Muslims in mosques?

OLAADEGBU:
If he did then his death would not be in vain.

Would be in great vain, all he did was really to show that isis is the work of both Christian n Muslim leaders

OLAADEGBU:
For the benefit of those who can't view the video.

She doesn't read d quran, doesn't kno who Muhammad is, Allah is, how was she a Muslim? I smells propaganda in here.

She was never a Muslim...so go on

chi4ik4:
Islam & Hausa people with their stupid character. only Muslims are causing problems in f whole world

Mumu hw far

Franzeez:
Is Isis also Jonathan? Islam is fvcking evil

Rubbish, is it also Islamic to impregnate women out of wedlock?

Flog am till he says who send am

truthman2012:
You raised this issue first and I'm telling you to clear yours first before you can have the moral justification to talk of another person's.

I thought you would say there are no contradictions in the quran. The fact that you have accepted quranic contradictions shows allahh is a liar for saying there is none.

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 69:َ

A party of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) wish to lead you astray. But they shall not lead astray anyone except themselves, and they perceive not.

Digriz:
1. Thou shall Rape, Marry, and Divorce Pre pubescent Girls. Koran 65:4
2. Thou shall have Sex Slaves and Work Slaves. Koran 4:3, 4:24, 5:89, 33:50, 58:3, 70:30
3. Thou shall Beat Sex Slaves, Work Slaves, and Wives. Koran 4:34
4. Thou shall have 4 Muslim male witnesses to prove rape. Koran 24:13
5. Thou shall Kill those who insult Islam or Mohammed. Koran 33:57
6. Thou shall Crucify and Amputate non Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
7. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims to guarantee receiving 72 virgins in heaven. Koran 9:111
8. Thou shall Kill anyone who leaves Islam. Koran 2:217, 4:89
9. Thou shall Behead non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
10. Thou shall Kill AND be Killed for Islamic Allah. Koran 9:5
11. Thou shall Terrorize non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 8:60
12. Thou shall Steal and Rob from non- Muslims. Koran Chapter 8 (Booty/Spoils of War)
13. Thou shall Lie to Strengthen Islam. Koran 3:28, 16:106
14. Thou shall Fight non-Muslim even if you don't want to. Koran 2:216
15. Thou shall not take non-Muslims as friends. Koran 5:51
16. Thou shall Call non-Muslims Pigs and Apes. Koran 5:60, 7:166, 16:106
17. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as the vilest creatures deserving no mercy. Koran 98:6
18. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as sworn enemies. Koran 4:101
19. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims for not converting to Islam. Koran 9:29
20. Thou shall Extort non-Muslims to keep Islam strong. Koran 9:29.
Is this true my Muslim brothers, pls clarify.

No sire, It's all lies, except It's a new version which will nt b possible

truthman2012:
Because quran tells you lies about Him.

My brother the quran doesn't lie, I believe in Jesus too

NCOIM:
Seconded!!!

I was chatting with a northern elder in my Street where I stay,,,he was telling me about the elections and the reasons why Jonathan must leave

You need to hear this man's reasons,,I was shocked

It was a Northern Agenda

GEJ hasn't done anything for his people in the SS and they voted for him. If the SS n SE were considering
performance, would they have voted him?
So it wat it is. Just that this tym It's nt ur man.

calebo101:
Already we know. Actually it might end up as a blessing in disguise because now we have to look at ourselves in the south and ask if being part of Nigeria is worth it. Now we see that one Nigeria is just a fluke.

Already the results from the election has shown that performance never mattered. Ethnicity, religion and tribalism holds sway in the pendulum of power in Nigeria such thay we find ourselves subject to the choice of the largely uneducated region and the zone that likes to think of themselves as "sophisticated".

Apart from a few betrayals and judases which is perfectly normal I think there's a united view already on the future of the Niger Delta cum Southeast and it shall be actualised rather sooner than later.

Don't get it twisted. We are not ONE!!!

Yes, there hv bn ethnic n religious matters since, the only change now is d card reader.