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Surah 19;
30. He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,
31. And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and alms giving so long as I remain alive,
32. And (hath made me) dutiful toward her who bore me, and hath not made me arrogant, unblest.
33. Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!
34. Such was Jesus, son of Mary: (this is) a statement of the truth concerning which they doubt.
35. It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is.
36. And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path.
37. The sects among them differ: but woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.
38. See and hear them on the Day they come unto Us! Yet the evil doers are today in error manifest.
39. And warn them of the Day of anguish when the case hath been decided. Now they are in a state of carelessness, and they believe not.
40. Lo! We inherit the earth and all who are thereon, and unto Us they are returned.
41. And make mention (O Muhammad) in the Scripture of Abraham. Lo! he was a saint, a Prophet.
42. When he said unto his father: O my father! Why worshippest thou that which beareth not nor seeth, nor can in aught avail thee?
43. O my father! Lo! there hath come unto me of knowledge that which came not unto thee. So follow me, and I will lead thee on a right path.

malvisguy212:
1.there is NO verse in the bible were it say the spirit of God is in someone,Jesus was the only flesh whom God spirit was on Him, you only here "they were moved by the power of the holy Ghost".
If a demon possessed you, it mean you are a demon.
2.Jesus has TWO nature,fully God and fully man.the nature of God did not override the nature of human in him(Jesus) when Jesus pray "NOT MY WILL" this mean God did not imposed his freewill on Him.but when demon possessed you, he imposed his freewill on you.the prayer of Jesus indicate It was His human nature that pray.
But christ is ONE.Jesus never speaks of Himself as "We," but always as "I"
Many passages refer to both natures of Christ, but it is clear that only one person is intended

The mistake you are making is that the two nature are one, God impos his freewill on Jesus.God is a spirit, can you see a spirit? Feel it or touch it? NO.the point is that this spirit dwell in the body of a flesh in other to have a personal relationship with his creatures and that flesh is Jesus. When Jesus say He is the way and truth.what was he trying to say? It is only God that can say He is the way to heaven.the reason Jesus did not say directly,I Am God is because the Jews will stone him to for blasphemy in fact it was this same reason Jesus was killed.

Even supposing some Greeks are so foolish as to think that the gods dwell in the statues, even that would be a much purer concept (of religion) than to admit that the Divine Power, god should descend into the womb of the Virgin Mary, that it became an embryo, and after birth was wrapped in rags, soiled with blood and bile, and even worse.
If Jesus was a son of God, God would have saved him at the time of his death, and he wouldn't had suffered from severe mental and physical pain at last moments.

Sunglow:
Correction-JESUS IS "NOT A GOD"WITH EMPHASIS ON THE THE LETTER "A"RATHER ITS"JESUS IS GOD"THIS IS THE RIGHT RENDING. I WOUNDER WHOM YOU PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING TO SEE SITTING ON THE THRONE IN HEAVEN,ITS JESUS THAT WILL BE SITTING ON IT NO DOUBTH ABOUT THAT!!!!!!

Christians believed he died, how about that? who's left to take control?
He couldn't save himself from mere humans, a god?

sleek29:
@abuzola,

John 10:30 "I and my Father are one. "
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, "Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? "
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

the issue of who wrote the Bible and how close were they to Jesus is complicated
All these Matthew, Luke, who are they? wats their surname?

realdee44:
That you can't comprehend it doesn't mean its a lie. The sweet thing about the Christians is that we don't care about other ppl's faith we just mind our biz.

R U SURE?

realdee44:
hahaha you are funny. Don't say what you don't no. The truth remains that u will never understand. The only way u will understand is if u have the Holy spirit in you.

Na wa ooo, holy spirit indeed... I fully understand, it's just that it doesn't make sense, holy spirit like the one Jesus possessed?

basilico:
Its in the Qur'an. Divorce your wife and wants her back.
She has to get married to another man,consummate the marriage and get divorced.
In simple terms if you divorce your wife then she has to sleep with another man via marriage.

There was a story in the news this week that some sharia court ruled the woman could not go back to her apparently because noone had married bedded and divorced her. Indonesia I am not sure but somewhere in the far east.

This ruling is to show u how careful u should be in handling marriages... Islam is life

Obadiah77:
Islam socks Christianity socks
Bunch of sockers

Your English SUCKS too

realdee44:
Its a mystery that you can't understand only those who are in Christ understands it.

if you can't explain it to others then it's a lie, even u don't fully understand ur faith, that's the difference between Christians n other faiths there can't be more than one God

sunnyt1:
Someone already said you wont understand any explanation, the fact is you cant view Christianity through a pragmatic prism, its more than science or philosophy. But I will try to make you understand anyway

1 Have you ever heard of the trinity, God the father, the son and the holy spirit, call it 3 in 1. Will you understand it if I call it a bundle that has 3 diff components where each segment represents and can replace the other. So Jesus was on earth then God the father was in heaven. Jesus said I and the father are one.

2 When God created the 1st Adam, satan defeated him. Adam was a perfect refined man without blemish but by falling for the devil he contaminated his blood hence the need for a 2nd Adam became necessary. The blood of Jesus, the 2nd Adam, was needed to pay for the sin of mankind and to elevate man from the dungeon which the the 1st Adam had dragged mankind into.

3 God the son, Jesus, came to the earth as a man to live among human and don’t human eat? Where you expecting the kind of Nickolas cage or Jumong kind of superhuman? He is not a magician, Jesus lived as the lowly, dining and wining with people, he even attended a wedding, rode on a donkey and what have you.

4 It’s the trinity. Like I explained above, God the father, the son and the holy spirit is a pack with 3 different components


But i think religion shouldnt be percieved with such mindset. Serve your God and love everybody, is there any logic in trying to discredit another man's believe?

Jesus said...this, Jesus said that... the persons who said Jesus said...were not alive wen Jesus was, they've never seen Jesus... They may be alleging such blasphemous acts to Jesus

bingbagbo:
John 10:33

They replied, "We're stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God."



JESUS CHRIST IS THE GOD I SERVE, DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU THOUGH.....WHAT IS THE NAME OF YOUR GOD?

Jesus didn't read n write what u quoted

Contradictory

bingbagbo:
u dont believe the writings of paul?

Paul was a bounty hunter, Christian hunter, then suddenly, he met Jesus? and wrote d Bible... there!

Nonybb:
[b]THE MOST UNDISCUSSED NIGERIAN POLITICAL PROBLEM: ISLAM
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I remain resolute not to be a Biafran propagandist, but stand firm in a territory called Nigeria, and rescue it from the hands of Hausa-Fulani oligarchs.
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Often times I am tempted to reinvent the Biafra dreams that promises Al Dorado, but when I look deep I discover that Igbos, being a major ethnic group that would make up the dreamt Biafra, are not even united in their own, even in a purported Lugardian contraption called Nigeria which they dont seems to see as their country.
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THE DIFFICULTY
The coming of Buhari will be our biggest down fall as an ethnic nationality. I heard that he has shun all gestures made to him towards having other tribe amongst his aide. He insisted vehemently of surrounding himself with core fulani tribesmen even when Tinubu have intervened. This is the country they have denied any atom of ethnic colouration and favouritism as major problem. They believe in one Nigeria only when they oppress others; they believe so, only when 80% of oil wealth goes to them.
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THE OBSTRUCTION TO PRACTICALIZED DEMOCRACY
The biggest problem of Nigeria is Islam. I have aptly tried to shield away from this bigoted idea, which many would accuse me of religious intolerance. It was religion, and Islam in particuliar, that proliferate unbearable, the number of Talakawas and Almajiri electorates that promoted an unpopular candidate among the elites in urban centres, which we have choosen so far as our president. These was brought forth through uncontrolled child birth amongst the adherance of Islam.
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FULL ISLAM IS FOR THE POOR
The full blown pratice of Islam is for the poor and not the rich. The poor have used their weapon, which is the Talakawas to decide the fate of the elites which are majorly urban residents dwellers. Because democracy is the question of numbers: it was very ostensible that the poor Islamist, having ideology far from a chequered knowledge of Islam, perceive muslim candidate as candidates that must come first.
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THE SENTIMENT: ISLAM COMES FIRST
The topic I am about to write is one of the bitter truth any muslim dare to swallow. Ofcourse, it is not what a civilized individual should be proud of in a modern age, but it is suffice to say that it takes a miracle for any muslim to scheme against his follower Islamist in a contest which a Christian is an opponent that should equally be voted for.
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THE PROBLEM OF CHRISTIANITY: LIBERALISM
The problem of christians is liberalism and civilization: even if they believe in God it is for a reasonable level that have refused to mismanaged their modicum of common sense.
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When Buhari shaked the hands of Oshiohmole's wife during her wedding, the topic trended on twitter. This is because an atom of Islamism must be inculcated in the activities of Buhari so that the Talakawas can appropriately be satisfied. It may not put food to their tables, though they are poor, but it gives them the sense of belongings that Islam is thriving.[/b]

Ur FADA

malvisguy212:
the bible does not need to say "it's perfect" this will sound like boastful,to who God is boastful too? Human?. But the bible say every word spoken by the prophet and apostles were inspired by God ,they were moved by the power of the holy spirit.meaning it was perfect from the BEGINNING and the word of God needed no perfection.

not boast, more of a blessing, if not how wud we kno?
But Jesus never had a hand in the Bible ur reading

malvisguy212:
before it is not perfect but NOW it is?

Stop gettin confused the Quran was not revealed today. not this today..
now start from the beginning of d verse, if I remember correctly u quoted d middle somewhere.
Show me where the Bible says it is perfect (not Jesus obviously, since he didn't say n kno it was written)

brownlord:
I think this man is the only sensible person from the north. No offense

Ask christians frm d north

OREMUSSANCTUS:
I s l a m a b a d
Ahmed gumi to me is d only muslim scholar who got brain
Dunno wad happened to d rest

Anything put to ur favor na him make sense... mumu
This ur hatred I kno u can kill any Muslim on sight, ur no different frm boko haram

malvisguy212:
quran 5:3 ....This day
have I perfected for you your religion
and completed My favor on you and
chosen for you Islam as a religion;

You only perfected an imperfect thing. Why do Allah need to perfected islam ?doesn't this mean when islam begin, it was not perfect?

In summary, u n I now believe it is perfect. Chapter closed

Which sinners? Present or Past sinners If ur god loves his supposedly son why would he kill him before he forgives.. Does this mean that all sinners in Christianity are saved no matter wat... If Jesus is god n was killed, who is running the world now?

The op is saying literally that the bible can't be hundred percent trusted, whoa
that u hv to bear with ups n downs

alberto2k:
[color=Teal]
its a typographical error compare to your dumb idioramus comment above me
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Another one..."compared"...read rules before posting, wrong English is not allowed on nairaland

alberto2k:
[color=Teal] its a typographical error compare to your dumb idioramus comment above me [/color]

Another one..."compared"...Primary four is not far

malvisguy212:
Does the quran need perfection? No need to explained to you about the pre-existence of God, you did not understand.

No. I understand, you dont. The Quran is perfect

alberto2k:
[color=Teal] A Very know mechanic, Hediot! [/color]

English; "known" ...dull boy

So may critics

It's probably because of the falsehood n contradictory aspect of Christianity...likely, cos even the authors of d Bible are a case of debate, their genuineness

Who is he

What is Jonathan's profit after these years? wats d point?

malvisguy212:
and I repeat,other's gods also claimed they are the first AMONG the creation BUT none claimed to exist BEFORE the world began.

NOTHING MEANS NOTHING
Do you need me to point out where it says "before world"? there is the solar system, different planets, the Bible didn't say ur god existed before it. You can see the perfection of the Holy Quran.
I HOPE UR DIRECTING TO OTHER gods

malvisguy212:
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Dalaman almost All the information you have about the christian God is base on your understanding of the bible,why? Because the bible explained the nature of God. And in the bible God also made a claimed which none other god made.

Mustimatic. All the quranic verses you quote does not say anything about Allah exist before the world was, Comperd with this,the claimed that allah created the earth,other deity make such claimed but none claimed to exist before time began :

No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a
wisdom that has been hidden and that
God destined for our glory BEFORE TIME
BEGAN. (1 Corinthians 2:7)

This grace was given us in Christ Jesus
before the BEGINNING OF TIME(2 Timothy 1:9)

The hope of eternal life, which God...
promised before the BEGINNING OF TIME (Titus 1:2)

To the only God our Savior, through
Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty,
dominion and authority,BEFORE ALL TIME and now and forever. Amen. (Jude
1:25)

Surah Al-Hadid, Verse 3:
He is the First (nothing is before Him) and the Last (nothing is after Him), the Most High (nothing is above Him) and the Most Near (nothing is nearer than Him). And He is the All-Knower of every thing.

is it more clear now? nothing is before HIM...not only time

FriedPlantain:
I once tried using my phone to send a mail to my boss to confirm the receipt of xx million naira in bank from one of our major customers. I was really astonished when I suddenly received a call from my boss minutes later demanding what "plantains" was doing in the company's bank account. apparently autocorrect miraculously changed million to plantain for me.


Friedplaintain

Guy... I kno watchu did there! boiled plantains