Lets do our Bantu hair...

Nothing beats a good quality weave...


Flaunt it!!!!!

Those women are not "pure" Bantu..... My, do y'all got an inferiority complex that ya have to pass mixed types as Bantu. Shame on you.

Bantu beauties...

Introducing,

Ngina Kenyatta,

Daughter to the president of Kenya, Uhuru Kenyatta.

Lovely!

Dunn know where ya from but please do not pass off a quarter white chick as Bantu. I do not regard Kikuyu as Bantu either. They have absorbed, Cushitic, Masai(half Cushitic/nilotic ) in droves that all they have Bantu about them is the language. This applies eastern Bantu in Kenya. Of course most of their Y Dna is Bantu.... at 70%.

Muafrika2:
I don't know why Africans disown their people for just having a little mix from another race.




Zari (Zarinah Hassan) is a Ugandan musician.
Her heritage involves many countries, her grandfather on her moms’ side is Indian and her grandmother Ugandan, her grandfather on her dads’ side is Somalian and her grandmother a Burundian.

She grew up in Uganda doing karaokes and performances but now lives in South Africa where she runs cosmetics shop and a tertiary college in Pretoria while pursuing a career in music.

She won a Channel O Music Video Award nomination for best East African artiste in 2008.
http://www.zarithebosslady.com/about

So this is what bantu + Somali looks like

You are not African and I understand why you can't see things from our perspective. You do not know how vulnerable Africans are. If we do not take a stance when it come to Africans mixing with non Africans, we are doomed. Even your Somali trash once asked the British to classify them as Indian or something. according to somalis that have taken accentry DNA, they are 40% middle eastern, 15% NA and the rest SSA. They are losers big time. ......Am sure if they did not want to be related to Bantu you would claim them as family.

alanmwene:
bantus always making Africa proud!
"Somali" bantus in usa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyv2JLJezAU

Versus somalis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVz3GgAWUyM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IDBxPLp3i0

They have poured boat loads of Somalis where I live at, its depressing. So far they have accidentally burnt down five apartments. Swedes, Arabs, their brothers, have fled the area. Am leaving too but there is not neighborhood that is not infested with Somalis..... Not even in my home country. Am like WTF! Why my country let them in a I do not understand.

TerryCarr:

Lupita is nilotic. but it is possible she has some Bantu genes in her

There is a genetic study that says 6 out 10 Luo paternal lineages are Bantu. Kenyan Luos no longer look like their Uganda and Sudan brothers they broke from.

Another bantu beauty..


From the pearl of Africa...
(Pearl of Africa is another word for Uganda clueless, @axum)

Am Bantu. Am offended by some posters here trying to pass off clearly people with mixed heritage as Bantu. Ironically the this woman, Zari, is part Somali and Indian. In Uganda she is not considered one of us. She is other. You also posted a pic of Thandi Newton(?) as Bantu when we all know she is half white. One Miss Angola is also mixed race. Please check background of photos of the people you post. You are also giving Somali losers too much attention. Who the fck is the moderator that lets Somalis of all people insult people on here?

gallivant:


Fact is Ethiopians own you.lol Somalis on here live on la la land.

They do live in la la land. In fact all Somalis are delusional.

Ajuran:
Behold

I agree with this map. I thought I was only who thought dinkas and other SS have some non African admixture.... I say it accurate.

bigfrancis21:


That's wholly untrue. Igbo people's complexion mix isn't related to any admixture whatsoever pre or after slavery.

You're talking about slave returnees right? And this was after the abolishment of slavery in the 1800s right? How about we go back in time to way before during the 1600s and 1700s when Igbo slaves were being transported from Igboland to the Americas, a time when there were no foreign settlers (and still till now) and the entire trade exchange took place along the Niger Delta coastline. Ever heard of the phrase, 'red eboe' before? Are you aware that during the slave trade, Igbo slaves directly from West Africa were remarkably known to be 'yellowish' in color by other tribes and slave masters and were called 'red eboe'? These were slaves directly from West Africa with no admixture whatsoever. 'Red eboe' survived in America, Jamaica, Caribbean nations and other areas where Igbo slaves were sent to, and has been corrupted to 'red bone' which African Americans, Caribbean natives etc use to refer to any light-skinned person. Many sources and articles exist online on the yellowish nature of Igbo slaves. Simply google up 'red eboe' and read for yourself.

The yellowish nature of the Igbo predates to pre-slavery and counters your opinion.

Moreover, the ex-slave returnees were mostly Yoruba in ancestry and settled mostly in Lagos state (Yorubaland). Igbo ex-slave returnees were few and many avoided Igboland altogether (owing to their fear of being subjected to slave status for they understood Igbo traditions well) and headed for Equatorial Guinea where they settled instead. If so, why is there a much lower incidence of light-skinned folks in Yorubaland than Igboland that received fewer slave returnees?

Either igbos are evolving into the caucasoids or they could be telling us people who brought E1b1a to west Africa were light skin north East Africans. Igbo retaining light skin from north east Africans while other E1b1a bearers lost it. That possibility bothers me to no end. LOL! There is another case of a Nigerian woman married to a white man giving to a 100% white kid. How is that possible? The woman must have some Eurasia admixture for that to happen. Where is the scientific explanation for this phenomenon? I still believe Igbs are mixed somewhere. A proud people just can't up and claim middle eastern origin without some truth to it.

bigfrancis21:
Chuka Edozie aka Lynxxx




Hugh Njemanze

You wanna tell me that Hugh Njemanze with caucasoid features is of pure west African race? I think this partly explains the mixed looking Nigerians found in southern Nigeria. Nigeria was settled by a number of former slaves from the US, Brazil and in the 1800s. Am not sure most Nigerians are aware of this. Am doubting genetic studies out there on Nigeria.

https://theses.ncl.ac.uk/dspace/handle/10443/883

Afro-Brazilian architecture in Lagos State : a case for conservation
Authors: Alonge, Marjorie Moji Dolapo
Issue Date: 1994
Publisher: Newcastle University
Abstract: The immigrants of African descent who began arriving in Lagos and Badagry in the early nineteenth century included not only Afro-Brazilians, but also Afro-Cubans, Afro-Americans, Afro- Canadians (freed slaves from Nova Scotia) and Sierra Leonians (Saros). Of these the Afro-Brazilians and the Saros constituted the largest and most dominant groups. The Afro-Brazilians were the descendants of African slaves (mostly from West Africa and Angola) taken to Brazil. They returned to West Africa between the 1820s and 1890s. Collectively, in Nigeria the Afro-Brazilians and the Afro- Cubans were referred to as `Brazilians' or Aguda (Yoruba word for Catholics) probably because the majority of both these groups were Catholics. The Saros were the descendants of Yoruba slaves from southwestern Nigeria. Some of these slaves were on their way to the Americas to be sold but were rescued by the British anti-slavery squadron along the West African coast. They were then resettled in Freetown, Sierra Leone, which was founded in the eighteenth century by an Englishman named Granville Sharp. Other Saros were African slaves (mostly of Yoruba origin) who have been in England since the early seventeenth century. They were repatriated to Sierra Leone after the abolition of slavery in Great Britain. After Lagos was ceded to the British by Oba Dosunmu in 1861, many more Saros were encouraged to return to Yorubaland by the colonial administration. The Saro community lived in the Saro quarter alongside the Afro-Brazilian community in the Brazilian quarter of Lagos. Like the Afro-Brazilians, they also produced a significant genre of architecture and a distinctive creole culture during the nineteenth century. The Saro architectural style was largely based on a combination of the British colonial style and the Yoruba traditional spatial arrangement. Although the Saros contributed immensely to the development of architecture in Lagos, they were not nearly as renowned for their building design and construction skills as the Afro-Brazilians were. This study is concerned primarily with the architecture created by the Afro-Brazilians as distinct from the Saros, whose architecture undoubtedly merits study in its own right.

Fulaman198:


Completely incorrect. Nigeria has had inhabitants for at least 14,000 years. Do some research before posting.

Nigeria and other neighboring regions were inhabited but the people were not necessarily Yoruba, igbo and what not speakers. It is possible Nigeria was inhabited by proto-Bantu west Africans. The inhabitants of Nigerians today possibly moved in the area after Bantu migration. The proto-Bantu must still be around. We know there are some tribes in Cameroon.

Mod am I banned?

bigfrancis21:


If you've been to Igboland or have lived in Igboland before, those observations you made are normal things within Igbos! Igbo people's phenotype are a continuum from dark-skinned to light-skinned. In Nigeria, other tribes automatically refer to a light-skinned person as Igbo/'omo ibo' before even considering any other tribe they might actually be from. The dark-skinned ones tend to not be as dark as the Congolese or Sudanese people who are very dark in complexion.

Could you expand more on 'with the caucasian body type, complexion and hair'?. I'm interested in knowing exactly the features of those people you met to have you qualify their characteristics as such.

Mike Tyson body type is caught between west African and Caucasoid. Serena William has thick caucasoid body type with ripped african muscles. Shaq O'Neil got white body type yet he is dark. Jill Scott has thick white body too. Michael Jordan has typical west african body type. Tupac had africa body type so Oprah. Do Igbo women have big behinds typical of west african types or flat like ethiopians.^_^

Is this guy AA or igbo
http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi989.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf18%2Foditous2%2FAfrica%2FOsi_Umenyiora.jpg&ei=6x1BVKW-JIW_ygO47IKACA&psig=AFQjCNFwmfAHrwOhMfzGV3ZTaI2zlQsmsw&ust=1413640043677669


http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi989.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf18%2Foditous2%2FAfrica%2F546-6S5ASOMUGHA_standalone_prod_aff.jpg&ei=ZB5BVLPUEOL_ywPknIG4Cg&psig=AFQjCNFMd4eLZWXbFJp3mHciPfqALox7zA&ust=1413640164361177

These light skinned people do not have features associated with west african types. They seem to have narrow noses and elongated Caucasoid heads.
http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.pulse.ng%2Fimg%2Fincoming%2Forigs3060864%2F7195568819-w644-h429%2FChichi-Igbo-lesbian.jpg&ei=sx5BVIX5MqKCzAOBs4HoCA&psig=AFQjCNGfvepGowN1C2GlaZ6x_6FNLkwP7Q&ust=1413640243924748

http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw4Hw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi989.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf18%2Foditous2%2FAfrica%2FUtiNwachukwu.jpg&ei=Sh9BVNqhIoTlywOQuYGIDA&psig=AFQjCNFI-uDfuimGl1KMk7Ruzr2Vn4f16g&ust=1413640394660960

http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw4Hw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.southeastnigeria.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F02%2Fosi-umenyiora.jpg&ei=hR9BVOqjGaP5yQPWr4GwBA&psig=AFQjCNEsgtG8rsUJ3R9mjoNMhCMyCqML9w&ust=1413640453509196

Are these Fulani, who are mixed with berber, or supposed to be typical west africa types of igbo tribe?
http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw4Xg&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffree-land.wikispaces.com%2Ffile%2Fview%2Figbo_bride.jpg%2F37761988%2Figbo_bride.jpg&ei=1h9BVLaNIKK_ygOi94HACg&psig=AFQjCNHSQcoUDV9kfvbPWBeuhSBOTQepIg&ust=1413640534642664

It is more than the color of the skin
http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Frapgenius%2Ffilepicker%2FIUDnDMzITXOPaXMg9exk_Lemar.jpg&ei=ZSBBVMuwNqnlywP1x4GoAQ&psig=AFQjCNEpfb4or4dQFX3Cuu8YNFaZBlFwjg&ust=1413640677985768
http://www.google.se/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAUQjBw4Gg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fionenewsone.files.%2F2010%2F07%2Fblackparentswhitebaby1.jpg%3Fw%3D500%26h%3D301&ei=riBBVM3GLIr8ygOUm4DoBQ&psig=AFQjCNGYvORUToefSWPTcg_Kt5TXnevMnQ&ust=1413640750815891

Jayvarley:



Yes I remember reading about that family in the newspaper.

IGBO seem to posses certain genetics for light skin.


Generally though from my observation Nigeria produces more light skinned people than Ghana for instance, even though there is not any significant admixture among those groups.

No matter how dark skinned a Nigerian/IGBO person maybe, they seem to carry the genetics for light skin that will JUMP OUT in any generation it chooses to!

I believe igbo are mixed somewhere along they way they might not be aware of it. I met this nigeria igbo dude, he was thick(not fat) like AA types with caucasian body type and complexion and hair I have seen on people mixed with darker indians in my country. Could their claim to middle eastern origin have some truth to it? Then have you some with hazel eyes and a couple giving birth to a white kid. And from what I have seen light skin igbos do not often have typical west african features like Okonjo anybody observed this? .

bigfrancis21:


The same phenomenon has also been observed by other african americans alike who also say that Igbo people look more like African Americans more than any other West African tribe. I did not say here that AAs are mostly Igbo. But going by what Dr. Douglas Chambers concluded in his work that 'At least 60% of African Americans are likely to have at least 1 Igbo ancestor in their history', his conclusion may not be far from the truth.

Below are pictures of 2 Igbo guys who could easily pass off as African Americans. The African Americans observed very well.

I have heard the same thing. Question is how come igbos look like(some can fit in with AA) like AA who are mixed with white and what not? Are some igbos mixed with non african? Did some european slave traders have their way with igbo women and knocked them up?

How can unmixed west african have european eyes
http://www.mobo.com/sites/default/files/images/news/lemar.jpg

This is typical west african
http://liveofofo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/ngozi-okonjo-iweala-300x360.jpg

axum:



You clearly are a Dumbasss. And have no Idea how Bantus ever arrived in present day Somalia. Even these Bantus on their own websites talk about how they were forced to come to Somalia and leave their culture and religion so they can escape Slavery. Yet here you are, talking about them settling in the largest river in Somalia with the most resources while Somalis were destroying Ethiopia and control most of Modern Day Somalia, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Kenya. lmao

You disgust me, your lack of history is proportionate to your low self esteem which in comparison to your Bantu nose is too far fetched and too stretched out for anyone to believe that you actually live in reality.

Ret_ard, what are you trying to say? Low self esteem? How did you reach that conclusion. If you got nothing to say just shut up.

ArtanK:


Right every one is out to get the poor Bantu. Goodnight kid. You're too paranoid and you have too many excuses for your stupendous fallacies.

Radoillo:


Are you saying West Africa was empty of people 3000 - 5000 years ago? Or are saying whoever was there at that time couldn't have been the direct ancestors of the people living there today?

There were people but I doubt they spoke Yoruba, igbo and what not.

ArtanK:


Western and Somali scholar? what's stopping you from naming him/her?

FYI that map was created by the Siad Barre regime, it shows where each clan resides. No one has heard of your erroneous article.

No one was sparred during the civil war, even the unarmed Bantu folks, many of them were killed, a lot of them fled to neighbouring countries, tens of thousands of them went back to Tanzania where they were shipped from centuries ago and some of them were sent to the USA but that doesn't mean that there aren't millions of them in Somalia.
The fact that they haven't got one town or city exclusively to themselves shows that they are a minority every where.

You can lie about the Bantu influence in Somalia as much as you like but it doesn't change the reality on the ground.

Siad was a retard. He thought he could wish bantu minority away . The authors of the paper were Don Van Lehman and Omar Eno.

There were 900,000 bantus in somalia.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Bantu

ChinenyeN:
Chileke Ohna... you Igbodefender people are foolishly dense. It irks me.

I doubt there were igbo or any of the tribes in west African today 3000- 5000 years ago.

ArtanK:


Man, you are really pathetic. I was defending my people from internet warriors who were claiming that they had raped, killed and displaced Somalis in their millions furthermore this thread was abandoned until you decided to post. It shows who's really attention seeking and trying to impress other people.
I have not once boasted about mistreating Bantu people in Somalia, if I have then show me where... I was stating facts and all the time and you're just mad that you can't do the same.



Dude, I'm not sure if you're aware of the fact that I am Somali, I know my land better than you. I know where Bantu people live and where they don't.

I'll show you a simple map that will disprove your load of drivel.



The grey bit shows where my clan inhabits. Kismayu, Jilib, Bu'ale and all those places that are mentioned is settled by my Darod clan.

It shows that you have no idea what you're talking about again and you're just posting for the sake of it. Unless you have something worth replying back to, this will be my last comment in this thread.

You want me to take you word over a paper written by a western and Somali scholar? Yeah, right. The paper is from 2003. There were almost a million Bantu in Somalia in 1993. Did you drive all of them out? How many are left?

somalilander:
We stick to out own.

More Power to you. Stay in your country or we will make what South Africans do to you look like child play. A ring of Somalis terrorists were rounded up in kisenyi slum Kampala preparing to drive a pick-up truck loaded with explosives into a crowd. The group included women.

Tesiday:


Actually, there is no hate against Igbo people. Others are only concious of their stereotypes or traits..... Like they are greedy, quick to call other peoples property their eg Land because they have settled there for some time. When allowed to do business and thrive in other ethnic area, they call their host lazy, they are particularly arrogant- humility is what they don't really have. In Nigeria they are known to cry foul first and accuse others of any misfortune even though this affects all the tribes that makes up the country.
E.g Boko Haram menace is a crisis in the North that claims lives of all the groups in the country, even the northen people who many believed orchestrated the crisis but its the Igbo that will shout of the Fed Govt of trying to extinct Igbo race by not doing more. The Civil war that Nigeria fought againt Biafra, Igbo groups are still known to be demanding Billions of Naira as reparation, after 4 decades.
This in my own knowledge is what I suspect is why other tribe keep a watchful eye on them and that they call hatred and I think they always bring that upon themselves by their public speech. These are my personal opinion, is stand to be corrected.

There is a tribe like that in every African country. LOL! There Baganda in Uganda are the most successful and arrogant tribe. They believe rest of the country is conspiring against them. Intent on destroying them. They are quite hated and no one wants to entrust them with power. The rest of the tribes work together to keep them in their place by clipping the feathers on the wings so to speak. They tried to break away from Uganda too. The central gov't had to crashed them. In Kenya they have the kikuyu. The largest and most successful tribe. They are equally arrogant. They are found in every corner of the country buying up land. They are hard working and gifted businessmen.

ArtanK:
You're tripping yourself up with your replies you know. If we go by your argument, how can the Bantu have a small settlement in Jubba when they founded Marka?

Have a look at this map for a second, find where it says Webi Jubba then find where it says Marka then rethink your idiotic claim.

The best Land belongs to bantus in somalia according this paper:

Land
Situated on the coast of east Africa, Somalia encompasses approximately 246,000 square miles, making it about the size of Texas. Only about 10% of this territory is arable and irrigable. Out of this arable land, an estimated 1,729,000 acres is cultivated, and most of this cultivated land is located in Bantu-inhabited regions. The entire southern region's climate can be categorized as semi-arid, with an average maximum temperature ranging between 85° F to 105° F and minimum temperatures between 68° F and 85° F.
The Bantu primarily inhabit the interriverine area of southern Somalia, where most live in the vicinity of either the Shabelle or Juba Rivers. These rivers origi- nate in the Ethiopian highlands and generally run southwards through the bot- tom half of Somalia. The Juba River flows out to the Indian Ocean just north of Kismayu while the Shabelle River ends in a series of swamp basins. In years of high rainfall in Ethiopia, the Shabelle River may merge with the Juba River in the far south of Somalia.
In this profile, we are concerned with the Bantu group from along the Juba River. The Bantu in the Juba River valley can be further divided between those living in the lower Juba River Valley (villages primarily south of Jilib) and those living in the middle Juba River valley (primarily villages from Jilib in the south to Buale in the north).
The Juba region is a fertile agricultural land mass stretching between the Kenyan border to the west and the Indian Ocean to the east. Unlike the Shabelle River, which usually dris up from January to March, the Juba River is permanent and is capable of irrigating about 150,000 ha (370,500 acres) of land. Land, particu- larly farmland, is the one of the most important possessions in the river valley and its environs. Farmland, known locally as dhooboy (muddy land), is the most arable land in Somalia.
Another source of water for farming is rainfall, which is scarce in some seasons. Most of the Juba River valley receives about 24 inches of rain per year. There are two rainy seasons in this region that correspond with the river's high points, which, combined with water from the Juba River, allows farmers to grow crops throughout the year. Most farmers in the region practice a mixed farming sys- tem, as rain-fed land mainly provides sorghum and beans. As a result, farmers tend to exploit the recession of river flooding from the adjoining dhesheeg, or depression, along the Juba River . This makes the Bantu-occupied areas of the Juba River valley extremely productive—and valuable—and thus the backbone of agricultural production for national and international markets in southern Somalia.....




Stagnant economic development among the Bantu people in southern Somalia probably has its roots in the Italian colonial period. Colonial officials confiscated the Bantu's arable farms, which were their only means of subsistence and eco- nomic advancement. Between 1935 and 1940, the Italian colonial authority also forcibly conscripted the Bantu into slave-like labor in order to establish large plantations to exploit the agricultural potential in the Juba River valley. This prac- tice ended once the British Army in Somalia defeated the Italians in 1941. The 1940s until the early 1960s were predominantly peaceful years for the Bantu, who were free to farm with little interference from government authorities or hostile neighbors.
After independence, Somali authorities adopted a policy designed to prevent Bantu people from social, political, and economic development.

ArtanK:


Lmao this is comedy! what whole Somali nation? Only a few Somali clans who probably numbered less than 5000 drove them out and since you want names, can you tell me where the Pokomo and Chonyi Mijikenda groups were prior to the Somali expansion. There were even reports of the Pokomo seeking refuge with the somalis from the Galla because the beating they got from the Galla was far worse than the beating they got from the Somalis.

You're asking me to give you names and sources then you're admitting to the Somalis flushing out Bantus from south Somalia. First it was a small settlement on the Jubba river and now you're saying that they had another one on Shabelle river? Bloody hell have some consistency for God's sake.
The old Bantu settlers of Somalia suffered assaults from the Galla then a few hundred years later the Somali.

The Somali outnumber non Somalis in the NFD greatly, don't even try to make that region a multiethnic region.



Somalis have held many powerful positions in Kenya, look no further than Mohamed Yusuf Haji, Adan Mohamed and Amina Mohamed (the current foreign secretary of state). Can the Bantu of Somalia name a just a couple of ministers they have/had?...

The NFD is a complex problem, massacres, marginalization, Shifta wars and etc. The Somalis in NFD have a right to lean against Somalia since their wish (being reunited with the Somalis across the border) wasn't granted hence why the Shifta wars began. I hope they never accept being Kenyan, that way there is still hope of annexation of the whole region.



Marka is a originally a Somali town mate, it is a well-known fact that the Biyomaal clan established it. Your claim is so astonishingly ridiculous, I cannot fathom whether you're playing dumb or you don't have access to Google.

Come on son, you're worse than your two other Bantu friends who withdrew from this thread.

How old are you anyways? I told you kenyan somalis are the most marginalised people and your come back is you got one or two prominent somalis in kenya govt (they got Indians in govt too). You are not the only ones capable of discrimination. Because you discriminate bantu minorities more, who by the way are mixed with your blood and not worth recognising as bantu IMO, makes somalis less discriminated in Kenya? Not to mention the lynching of somalis in South Africa. Kenya somalis have a hard time getting a simple ID card. Stopped randomly by the police. Dunno, why you gloat about treating bantu minorities badly. Is your intention to impress West africans that you are bad to the bone and Sh1t. LOL

ArtanK:
You're tripping yourself up with your replies you know. If we go by your argument, how can the Bantu have a small settlement in Jubba when they founded Marka?

Have a look at this map for a second, find where it says Webi Jubba then find where it says Marka then rethink your idiotic claim.

Marka, Maaka in coastal Bantu language means homestead, was a trading post and not some huge settlement. This is why we need Bantu unity. Go to the defense of Bantu everywhere. Even in Somalia. ^_^

ArtanK:


If you'd read my earlier replies in this thread you'd read about the Garre Somali clan's offence against the Bantu in south Somalia and I would have posted proof of the Degodia, Aulihan Darod and Ajuuraan taking land from the Bantu in NFD if the others in this thread hadn't gone mute on me. Kismayu, Serenli, Liboi, Jamame and many other settlements in Jubba along with countless other towns south west of the Shabelle river were previously Bantu settlements. Fast forward 200 years and none of those towns are Bantu towns.

Marka was not founded by Bantu rather it was founded by the Somali Biyomaal clan and they are the town's largest clan even today. The town you are trying so hard to claim is Barawa and that was founded by the Tunni Somali clan as well. The Arab and Portuguese Bravanese people merely immigrated to the town during the Ajuuraan era and both Barawa and Marka were key towns in the Ajuuraan empire.
Btw it is the Bajunis that are mixed Bantu and Arab. The Barawanis/Reer Hamar are 100% Arab according to their claims and they are from Yemen. Their clans such as the Ashraaf, Haatimi and etc are also found in Yemen in huge numbers.

Mogadishu's original name is Hamar and it is the ancient town of Sarapion, early historians had always written that despite its name Maqdi Shah (the seat of the Shah) it always had a Somali sultan ruling the city. Ibn Batutta in the 1300 wrote about a rich Berberi sultan (ancient Somalis were classed as Berbers) from Zeila in north Somalia who was the ruler of the city.

PS: There is one thing you should know about nomadic Somalis, they don't see themselves as equals to people rather they believe they are superior to every single race hence why the equally stubborn Abyssinians who fed every ethnicity in Ethiopia the lie; "the Great Ethiopian Kingdom where everybody is equal" failed to convince and subdue the Somalis.



This guy is a joke. You tell me what the Bantu were doing there before the Somalis migrated to the south lol were they eating sand? The land south west of the Shabelle river, all the way across the border to the Garissa county in NFD is arable land. Heck we even have Banana and sugar plantations near Bosaso in the extreme north. It is estimated that Somalia's farms and potential farm land can feed up to 140-150 million people. But I'm sure it is all dry land LOL.



Do you want sources proving that the Bantu were driven out of the current Somali territories? I won't go back and forth with you, I'd rather just give you the books to read.



The Bantu fed Somalia lmao. They had no power or influence in Somalia pre civil war and all the farms and food companies were owned by either the government or rich Somali business men. The Bantu that are present in Somalia are good people and they are former slaves from Tanzania not the ones who were driven centuries ago.

What power do Somalis have in Kenya? You are the most marginalized group in Kenya.

"Geo-Sociological profile of Somalis
The majority of the Somali people in Kenya are found in the former North Eastern Province (Nep) now made up of three major counties: Garissa, Wajir and Mandera. Not only have the Somalis been marginalised, but there has been near social conspiracy by successive governments to disinherit them of their nationality as Kenyans. In fact, the running joke that has survived for decades in the three major counties where majority of Somalis live has been to restrict the geographical reference of Kenya to regions outside Nep – at one time it was also known as Northern Frontier District (NFD). In many ways, those residents in NFD never felt socially or politically connected to the rest of Kenya. The feelings might have been mutual since Kenyans from other parts of the country usually know about Nep when it comes to drought and insecurity, and many consider insecurity of the region as the major defining factor of the region."

ArtanK:


If you'd read my earlier replies in this thread you'd read about the Garre Somali clan's offence against the Bantu in south Somalia and I would have posted proof of the Degodia, Aulihan Darod and Ajuuraan taking land from the Bantu in NFD if the others in this thread hadn't gone mute on me. Kismayu, Serenli, Liboi, Jamame and many other settlements in Jubba along with countless other towns south west of the Shabelle river were previously Bantu settlements. Fast forward 200 years and none of those towns are Bantu towns.

Marka was not founded by Bantu rather it was founded by the Somali Biyomaal clan and they are the town's largest clan even today. The town you are trying so hard to claim is Barawa and that was founded by the Tunni Somali clan as well. The Arab and Portuguese Bravanese people merely immigrated to the town during the Ajuuraan era and both Barawa and Marka were key towns in the Ajuuraan empire.
Btw it is the Bajunis that are mixed Bantu and Arab. The Barawanis/Reer Hamar are 100% Arab according to their claims and they are from Yemen. Their clans such as the Ashraaf, Haatimi and etc are also found in Yemen in huge numbers.

Mogadishu's original name is Hamar and it is the ancient town of Sarapion, early historians had always written that despite its name Maqdi Shah (the seat of the Shah) it always had a Somali sultan ruling the city. Ibn Batutta in the 1300 wrote about a rich Berberi sultan (ancient Somalis were classed as Berbers) from Zeila in north Somalia who was the ruler of the city.

PS: There is one thing you should know about nomadic Somalis, they don't see themselves as equals to people rather they believe they are superior to every single race hence why the equally stubborn Abyssinians who fed every ethnicity in Ethiopia the lie; "the Great Ethiopian Kingdom where everybody is equal" failed to convince and subdue the Somalis.



This guy is a joke. You tell me what the Bantu were doing there before the Somalis migrated to the south lol were they eating sand? The land south west of the Shabelle river, all the way across the border to the Garissa county in NFD is arable land. Heck we even have Banana and sugar plantations near Bosaso in the extreme north. It is estimated that Somalia's farms and potential farm land can feed up to 140-150 million people. But I'm sure it is all dry land LOL.



Do you want sources proving that the Bantu were driven out of the current Somali territories? I won't go back and forth with you, I'd rather just give you the books to read.



The Bantu fed Somalia lmao. They had no power or influence in Somalia pre civil war and all the farms and food companies were owned by either the government or rich Somali business men. The Bantu that are present in Somalia are good people and they are former slaves from Tanzania not the ones who were driven centuries ago.

Provide a source please. The shebelle, what you ever call it, Bantu settlements were a small. But those small settlement defeated huge Somali tribal armies before the whole Somali nation drove them away.... Which Bantu tribes are those that you drove from NFD? For starters NFD has other ethnic group besides Somalis. You have the Oromo and other Nilotic tribes living in NFD. Remember Wagalla warya. ^_^

Btw Am not Kenyan.

alanmwene:

Nobody said that bantus are united!Being of the same race or ethnicity doesn't mean being united!Unity is a political aim!I don't know why you think it is not possible!The only thing I can see that might make it impossible is the opposition of other African ethnicities.A bantus union might be seen as too domineering and overwhelming by other africans

Totally agree. It is something bantus ought to consider though.

Fulaman198:


Let's not be naive here, no Nigerian believes that Bantu is a race, It was only that Somali, Ajuran or Ayanle who thought Bantu was a race. Every Nigerian has posted evidence that Bantu is a linguistic group. However, you failed to pay close attention. That's your fault. There are a few bantoid language groups in Nigeria like the Tiv. However, West Africa does not have Bantus so to say.

Bantu is a race. There no way around it. We are genetically and linguistically linked. Like all races bantus have absorbed odd types like the tutsi who do not fit in culturally. The reason for the Rwanda massacre.

Fulaman198:


What you said does not even make sense, Fufu is a food. Bantu is a language group. West Africans have several language groups from Nilo-Saharan, to Niger-Congo (which has languages like Igboid, Yoruboid, Senegambian, etc.) and Afro-Asiatic.

Fufu is derogatory name for all west africans in other parts of Africa. Just like bantu is derogatory to westerners. It does not have to make sense.

whites hate us because we are one of the rare if not the only African that fought and defeated them.so don't mind the pigs my brothers. Now others Africans are pouring their hate and frustrations on us, but the truth remains the most successful African countries are ruled by Bantu, the richer , wealthier. Never ever consider Bantu as offensive. Bantu is what we are and we are proud of it .

I really feel honored by your comment. All is well my brother, our race is great and shall remain great

HEAR, HEAR,!!