₦airaland Forum

PlayerMeji:
APC cannot afford to not control 3 states in Nigeria, namely Lagos, Kano and Rivers states.

They already captured 2, now they want the third.

They know PDP gets funds from Rivers, that's explains why Wike is not a pushover in PDP.

The moment they capture Rivers will spell out THE END for PDP.

Lagos and Kano already done deeds.

APC sacrificed Osun and Adamawa to get Rivers, they know these states were more of a liability to them than others.

In SS and SE the people decide and not any larger than life political megalomania. This is not the feudalistic north or subservient west

PhenomenalMorgan:
How will the will of the people prevail when a certain man named Ameachi wants to impose himself as a "Jagaban" of Rivers state..
Well it won't work!!

I love the treatment given to any jagaban wannabe in SS and SE

Ladiesdoctor:
Port Harcourt LGA
AAC 7,800
PDP 521,312

Over 500k votes for one LGA?

9jahotblog:
Andony LGA
AAC. 5,335
PDP. 92,056
Registered voters 124,316
Accredited voters 102,959

Secondus has delivered

9jahotblog:
#RiversElection
Ikwere LG
AAC/APC 5,660
PDP 14,938
Ikwere is Amaechi's LG

Amaechi's backyard

We the pdp pessimist are the most psychologically equipped to survive buhari's next level of cluelessness.

meolaniyi:
l have never seen a tribe that is difficult to please like the Igbos. If The Oni had said the opposite you will be shouting. Now he has decided to massage your ego this time you are not still happy.

Why are Igbos full of hate?

Nothing for you in 2023. Call it whatever you like

Iamgrey5:
Emirs is not a Fulani but a Muslim title.

Oba is quite different

Fulani brought islam. They were first emirs and emir is hereditary. Do the maths

Iamgrey5:
They didn't control lagos.

They were given the opportunity to provide security in sections of Lagos island, while the Yorubas kept the ownership of their lands.

The ilaje controlled their own territory in Ondo, while Ijaw and some Edo influence controlled the rest to the East.

Yorubas, Fons and Guns controlled the sea side of the present day Benin Republic.

You are very funny. We are talking about ancient people when it was all about Conquest. Lol. They can't be guarding the land if they had not conquered it

Westtimeline:
You are just a Paine igbo. Well, una no get history.

The nosense fabrications at ibadan is not history. See how hollow it is even on this thread. Nigeria had to ban history in our schools because of yoruba mischievous revisionism

Iamgrey5:
Lol.

How come there's only one Oba in Benin because of the link with the Yorubas

And it's common in Yorubaland

Because yoruba had many city states. Just like fulani spread emirs in the north

Iamgrey5:
Which coast did they control

The bight cut across different countries

The bini did not even have any influence in Dahomey history

They controlled from lagos to benin. Ijaw controlled the eastern axis until the rise of Aro

Westtimeline:
Lol, and where is the proof? I do not take distorted history as fact. Cos if two children fight and they will surely talk I need favor of themselves. So nothing a Benin or Yoruba man will say that I will accept. I prefer outsider which is neutral.

I love this. Since you also discredited yoruba version. However, as a neutral person from the east I go with benin version. Even the name oduduwa sound so Benin. Unlike ezechime and akalaka which are purely igbo names adventurers from igbo to benin

Iamgrey5:
Ogebni the bight of Benin belongs to no one.

It was simply named after the Empire of bini. it doesn't mean it now belongs to it.

Benin controlled the coast.

Iamgrey5:
No! the oba of Lagos is believed to be a direct descendant of Oba of Benin, unlike other Yoruba kings

However, the plain truth is that the current oba of Lagos is not entirely a direct descendant of oba of bini. it is believed he is a mixture of an Ijesha man called Alagba and a descendant of Oba of bini.

More importantly, the oba of lagos has no land in lagos, the land on the island belongs to a Yoruba sub group known as the Awori (the red cap chiefs) E.g.

The Oba oniru

The Oba Elegushi

The Oni Koyi of ikoyi

etc.

All obas originate from benin. All emirs are fulani. Deal with it

Anambralstson:
Great expansion from Grand cereals, can you post pictures of the new plant

Below pictures is their old productions plant at Harbour industrial Onitsha and their products

Obiano the picture loving governor inaugurates a plant with picture of people walking? Something is not adding up

Westtimeline:
Maybe you can give yours

People from benin have given theirs which sound convincing enough

Iamgrey5:
This is not possible

No one will ever make such silly claims

Most Yoruba kings are Oduduwa offsprings is more like it.

Yorubas have been making that silly claims. Those yoruba kings are of benin origin as confirmed by oba of lagos. Original history is guarded in the palace. What you read from academic researches are adulterated for ego massaging

PVision2020:
Lol... you guys will just come up with any trassh that comes to your brain.
In one breath Oduduwa is the father of Yorubas in another he came from Benin to rule Yoruba land.
A neutral person person will tell you the bini's hypothesis doesn't add up.
Archealogically, Ife is older than Benin. Logically, historically, demographically and scientifically, the binis are offshoot of the Yorubas.
You have more of Yoruba influence on the binis than vice versa.

Its the yorubas claiming that yorubas originated from oduduwa who fell from the sky. Ife being archaeologically older than benin mean nothing. Usman dan fodio came from futa jdalon and established the caliphate in northern city states, an event that is relatively recent in history

Iamgrey5:
Another lie

Ife already have a king figure before Oduduwa

So how come you claim that all yorubas are oduduwa offsprings? Continue confusing yourselves

Iamgrey5:
The history of most west African tribes is based on Fables and very little sound evidence. The attempt of Europeans to rewrite our history during the colonial era played a key role.

You see why yoruba historical supremacy tussle is absurd? They want to push their fabbles as facts, others can invent theirs as well.

PVision2020:
From your argument " a prince of Benin is the father of the Yorubas"....Ok. now let's reason logically.
In Set theory, a subset can't be greater than the Universal set.
How come, the offspring of a prince of Benin (Oduduwa) kingdom (the Yorubas) is over 10 times the population/Size of the Bini kingdom itself. Bini is just an equivalent of the Ijebus, Oyos, Egbas, Ileshas (which are fractions/subset of the Yoruba) in size and population.
Can a rat give birth to an elephant?
Your arguments lacks logic.

Yorubas did not originate from oduduwa. Oduduwa met yorubas when he came up from benin. He settled and organized it into a state and ruled it

Iamgrey5:
No it's the oral narrative that claimed he came from the sky, but historians said he might come from a cage deposited inside a bush or from the North

You see why all the tales are fabbles without substance?

Igbokid:
So, the Yorubas understood his Benin language .. and stop being an idiot. Oduduwa didn't send his son anywhere

He learnt yoruba language

Westtimeline:
Lol, so African historians that are not Nigerians that talk about all kingdoms in Africa and the time they came are distortionist. History that have been written since years ago. You must know better then

There was no hard evidence on dating unlike other world history. Whichever part is academically ahead will always have upper hand

Iamgrey5:
There was no Oba in Benin before Oranmiyan the son of Oduduwa.

They were called Ogiso

But the benin said that ogiso means king of the sky, how do you explain yoruba claim of oduduwa falling from the sky?

Onijagidijagan:
Igbo man what logical argument do you need? Is Oba not a Yoruba title? Non Yorubas are claiming the title and in your logical mind is fact?
The "Benin" word is a Yoruba words of Ile-ibinu (the land of vexation ).
The official language of Oba of Benin Palace was Yoruba language before it was banned

When their kings dies, he's buried in Ile Ife.

There are a lot of Yoruba representation in the Niger delta more pronounced than the Benin culture but Benin people will lay claims to it. we won't argue with Yoruba haters for now

And you forgot the impact of yoruba imperialism of the Western region era

OgboAto:
Oduduwa was from Oke Ora [Ora Hills] in the eastern part of Ife. Ife East LGA covers the area even. Oduduwa was a local not a migrant from Bini or Mecca. He was a proper Ife man whose family is in Idio section of Ife where he lived & died.

To the Bini: did the lost Bini wanderer who ended up in Ughoton come with relatives to Ife?

The places you are mentioning were his abodes during transition from benin to ife

Westtimeline:
So you people can even lie that bini kingdom is second oldest kingdom after Egypt kingdom. That got me rolling. To start with, Egypt kingdom is not even the first kingdom. Benin kingdom that came into existence 40 years after oyo empire.

Benin kingdom came inv1440, oyo kingdom 1400.

These dates were fixed by academic revisionist. Dates can have up to 100years error during that period of history in sub saharan africa

Iamgrey5:
No they are not

The Nupes also known as Tapa have often wandered into Yoruba land from time to time

For example, Oshodi is named after one such Nupe

It is also a known fact that Edos often wander in Yoruba territories and vice versa before the advent of Nigeria.

The dressing of Oduduwa looks more like Nupe than an Edo. Hence, the historians were lead to believe he might have traveled all the way from Saudi Arabia.

Other historical facts might have supported an Edo origin i.e. trapped in cage etc.

How did Nupe take benin title of oba? Instead of their own etsu title?

Iamgrey5:
The orgin of Oduduwa is very controversial and hidden in the mulky waters of History

Some said he came from the Nupe enclaves

Some said he might come from Afamei land in Edo

Others claim he is a son of the ogiso.

There are enough evidence to back the three

Hence, it is best we leave it to proper historians

Those controversies are the handiwork of the inflated ego of yoruba revisionists

Westtimeline:
No one will accept fact from distortionist like you. Too empire has been In existence before Benin.

Your so called empires that fell before colonist came?