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Mechionu nsi gi there..lol

Ogidi, Nkpor, Obosi, Nkwelle, Oba, Ogbaru etc are all now under Onitsha metropolitan area. No amount of crying here can change it, though I will be here so that we can do this back and forth till you cry blood.

Lagos, PH, Onitsha, are just few of Nigerian cities that have developed beyond their original spaces[b][/b]. Will you kee ya sef?

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MXrep:
Those places are niw officially recognized as part of warri city or PH city but ogidi is not officially recognised as part of onitsha city. That is the point. It's not about what is unconsciously felt but official gazettes

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Onitsha metro encompasses Onitsha Port which is located at Ogbaru LGA

hehehehehe..look at the official documentation from the authorities who knows better than us. Onitsha metropolitan area is the largest. Kill ya self

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MXrep:
Hehehehe
These kids won't take this good advice now.

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The illiterate is from timid and backward nsukka where they don't even have roads, no water, no electricity..lol. He is always interested in Anambra state just to feel belonged. The guy is full of inferiority complex.

BrownRoofRep:
Please where are you from?
You must be ashamed of your hometown!

LOL, look at this, this nsukka illiterate, the below is the new population of Onitsha metro residents and its size. Onitsha metro is now the largest city in the SE and beyond. I know that is why you are pained this much

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MXrep:
You keep talking nonsense. We are talking about what is officially regonized. Do I need to be from ogidi? Take a look at the distance of ogidi from onitsha official boundary

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lol, you will keep crying because i am here for you as always. The problem is that you are blinded with hate and envy if not i don't know why you should be more interested in what is going on in Onitsha metro. Institutions/organisations are already keying into the Onitsha metro. Anyone in Ogidi or Nkpor already knows that he is in Onitsha metro

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MXrep:
So only FG mega projects? How about official addresses for residential areas and businesses?

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lol, you see why nsukka people are timid miscreants. Anglican church carved out Onitsha metropolitan bishopric to cover all the areas now under Onitsha metropolitan areas because they recognised that Onitsha has gone beyond the original areas, so they have to adjust to accommodate the new arrangement. You are such a dunce that needs to be educated. I spit on you

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MXrep:
Lol. See clueless example. The Christian church creates its administrative territory anyhow. In Anglican church some parishes are under archdeaconry outside their local local government

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lol..your crying and bitterness ends online, out there, everyone knows now that Ogbaru, Nkpor, Ogidi, Obosi, Nkwelle etc are all part and parcel of Onitsha metropolitan area. Continue crying but I will be here to clean your wet eyes.

Onitsha Naval base is in Ogbaru LGA.

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MXrep:
Lol. I don't know why these people can't face the truth so that a solution can be found. Even ogbaru hinterlands of iyiowa etc don't add onitsha. The part of ogbaru where the naval post is located don't have indigenous people but empty bush acquired by government long ago

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Only Obiano and Umahi are the performing governors in the SE. Ugwuanyi failed woefully, he should come and learn good governance from Anambra.

Ugwuanyi failed woefully as a governor and should be voted out. There is no single capital project done by Ugwuanyi in Enugu. This fat dunce should come to Anambra and learn from Obiano. Mxrep

Anambra is by far more developed than Enugu state. Anambra has the best road networks at least in the SE. Onitsha, Awka all have beautiful roads and flyovers and bridges. Ugwuanyi should concentrate on developing Enugu and building roads and flyovers and beautification of the backward state.

Ugwuanyi should come for lesson classes in Anambra. The fat nsukka dunce cannot even maintain ordinary school not to talk of building infrastructures. Shame

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MXrep:
Obiano should focus on city centre and embark on aggressive urban renewal and massive beautification of onitsha inner city

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Stop blabbing this nsukka illiterate. He made a very valid point and it stands. No one need to gazette anything, the point is that Onitsha metropolitan area has come to stay by virtue of the city expansion.

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MXrep:
You keep blabbing. Show ogidi ontsha written on any sign or keep quiet. We are talking officially gazetted names you are talking about your personal encounter

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Anambra is by far more developed than Enugu state. Anambra has the best road networks at least in the SE. Onitsha, Awka all have beautiful roads and flyovers and bridges. Ugwuanyi should concentrate on developing Enugu and building roads and flyovers and beautification of the backward state.

Ugwuanyi should come for lesson classes in Anambra. The fat nsukka dunce cannot even maintain ordinary school not to talk of building infrastructures. Shame

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MXrep:
Obiano should focus on city centre and embark on aggressive urban renewal and massive beautification of onitsha inner city

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Good points

BrownRoofRep:
Obosi or Ogidi natives in Lagos, Kano or Abuja will tell you they are from Onitsha. I do so myself and there's no sense of inferiority with that.
Once you are close home the narrative certainly changes.

You should also understand that Onitsha is just a native community that developed and became popular while there likes of Enugu, Port Harcourt etc are not. They are metropolitan City developed as such from day zero. Enugu is not a native communities neither is Port Harcourt.
Even at that, natives of Obio/Akpor don't see their towns as Towns as PH. They've either say Obio Akpor or their various towns like Rumuokoro, Rumuodumaya, Rukpokwu etc. Natives of these places don't bear PH in their sign posts but they don't object like Ogidi, Nkpor etc if tentants ass PH in their sign posts.

The above is simply a because Port Harcourt is nobody's community.
Most important reason you see a rapid reactions from natives of Obosi, Ọgidi and Nkpor is because of the notorious trait of dragging their neighboring communal land and by Onitsha people. Such sign post will certainly be an invitation to Onitsha people to fight for our ancestral and.
Furthermore, we must uphold or community names, city or not.

The last time I was in Ihiala they were calling me Onitsha man and I did not object.

You are the one that is a hopeless illiterate miscreant from nsukka. Just shut up you know nothing about the constitution of Anambra state. This matter has been trashed here but you kept drinking panadol for head of another person.

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MXrep:
And this is exactly my suggestion before miscreants started attacking me. The neighbouring towns rejected onitsha let another general name be used and the whole urban metro become one city

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Wow Roban has taken over SE. Cool

BeautifulMind2:
New Roban stores in Abakilike

Umahi has done well and should be voted for second term

You are right though we have to consider Umahi when we look at the funds available to him. He has done some capital projects including flyovers but Abia state which is richer has neither road nor flyover to show, that's why Umahi should be commended.

globemoney:
Umahi is overrated. What did Umahi do apart from the one flyover he did which is not even up to Aroma flyover.. Ambode and Amosun are useless. Only Governor worth mentioning are Wike and maybe Ganduje expect for this dollar scandal

Lagos is a cosmopolitan state as former FCT, businesses there are majorly by multinationals and other tribes, so it is so easy jerk up the IGR. The two busiest wharfs in Nigeria are in Lagos. Do you know how much the state and FG makes there alone. The Nigeria's busiest airport is in Lagos, do you know how much the state and FG makes from it?

Even TA Orji will perform in Lagos. Fashola with all his hype as governor Lagos and his boast that electricity is not a rocket science. Where is he now and electricity after 4yrs as a minister? Has he not been demystified? Even a dunce will perform so well as Lagos state gov because of enormous funds at there disposal.

Taxing establishments so high in Anambra will be counterproductive because most of the establishments are home grown with some other multinationals like AbinBev etc. When companies are overtaxed it affects their production and employment of workforce.

All that Obiano needs to do is to plug the leakages and the IGR will hit 4-5b/m. Think he trying to do it because the 2019 budget projected IGR to 3billion/m.

Niccoloimhotep:
i said it earlier that someone would definitely refer to the amount they earn individually as a state. But i can assure you that if someone like Tinubu becomes Anambra state governor, he will push up the state IGR to atleast 15B naira monthly. Atleast ooo

Obiano, Umahi and Ambode are the top performing Nigerian governors. Ambode should not be there at all considering the heavy amount he had to work with. Amosun may be considered small because he did number of capital projects.

Niccoloimhotep:
let's start Ambode, Umahi, Amosun, and Ugwuanyi

It is still the same point we are making. Onitsha metropolitan area is different from Onitsha North and South as it were. Good that you understood the point of the argument.

Yyeske:
Good and constructive arguement here but there are some things you guys fail to understand about the nomenclature of the Onitsha metro area, I live at Odume layout and we all generally refer to the place as Onitsha, same for someone living in Awada, Ugwuagba all parts of Obosi, residents will tell you they live in Onitsha but same cannot be said of Obosi town itself because it has not been incoporated fully into Onitsha.
Residents of Afor Nkpor, areas around Mgbuka, Nkpor main market etc all refer to those places as Onitsha but same cannot be said of Eke Nkpor because it has not yet been swallowed up yet.
Ugwunwasike in Ogidi down to Nkpor is equally refferd to as Onitsha but not all parts of Ogidi for same reason.
Abata Nsugbe has been swallowed up people refer to the place as Onitsha but same is not yet applicable to other parts of Nsugbe.
If you all can recall, when the state government banned Okada last year it only covered the metro area itself but left the areas not yet incoporated and thats why okada still functions in places like Eke Nkpor but not in Afor Nkpor.

Before you know it Buhari will land in Daura

The highlighted is the summary of all we have been saying here. Case closed

pazienza:
Believe me, I understand you. You are are the one that has refused to understand me.

I am very much aware that Greater Onitsha exists in Anambra city development and planning commission books. I'm aware it exists in people, especially "ndi mbia mbia" subconsciousness, but it doesn't exist in the reality for Idemili people.
For example, if you ask many non Indigenes resident in Nkpor or Obosi where they reside, they will first of all tell you Onitsha, then when you ask them the part of Onitsha, they will say Obosi or Nkpor, as the case maybe.
But an Obosi or Nkpor person will never give you such reply. To him, it's Nkpor in Idemili North LGA, and not Nkpor in Onitsha.
The idea of Nkpor in Onitsha, is one non Idemili people living in Nkpor, Umuoji , Oba, Obosi or Ogidi propagate. The indigenes will not tolerate such idea.

Warri is an anglicized version of Iwerre. It is the same way Anambra is to Omambala. This doesn't mean that Warri has not always been there.

Onitsha as a metropolitan area doesn't belong to Onitsha people anymore as the city has grown beyond its original boundaries. Onitsha
people didn't influence the name of Onitsha Port or Onitsha Naval Base. It is because of popularity of Onitsha and its history that made the authorities to name those institutions as such.

It is not a greater Onitsha, it is Onitsha metropolitan area. The later occurs because of urbanisation and over running of other towns like Ogidi, Nkpor etc, by Onitsha as it were and thereafter becoming Onitsha metropolis. It has absolutely nothing to do with Onitsha people, and still doesn't mean you will be forced to write Oniitsha as your town of origin in exam simply because Onitsha has swallowed up Ogidi or Nkpor. All the names will still exist but you will hear more of Onitsha because it has come to mean that when someone arrives at Ogidi or Nkpor or Ogbaru the person assumes to be in Onitsha metropolitan area. It is not signed anywhere but mere consciousness.

pazienza:
Yes, Warri is a new nomenclature. Itsekiriis claim it was derived from the ancient name of Itsekiri, ie Iwere, Ijaws claim it was derived from the Ijaw word "Wari" which means home/house.

Urhobos has their own version of the name origin.

Bottomline is that it doesn't belong to anyone. It's a generic name the three ethnic groups there lay claim to. We can't say same of Onitsha. Onitsha belongs to Onitsha people only.

I didn't say that anyone is changing the name of Ogidi to Onitsha. But you have to realize that for Ogidi to become one city with Onitsha, names of places in Ogidi will have to bear Onitsha. And this will never happen, because neither Ogidi, Obosi or Nkpor people will permit it.

Greater Onitsha will no doubt exist in city planners book, in people's subconsciousness and all. But it will not exist in real life setting, because you will never be allowed to write Onitsha, whether greater or lesser, in any signpost in Idemili.

That's the reality I am trying to bring to your notice.

It doesn't mean I support or oppose the greater Onitsha thing, I'm merely bringing home to you, the situation on ground.

Pazienza look at the population and land area of Onitsha metropolitan area. This couldn't have been just Onitsha North and South, it is because the authorities have come to understand that Onitsha metropolis has swallowed up the entire area surrounding the Onitsha city as it were, and now forming conurbation(mega city). It has absolutely nothing to do with superiority or otherwise of the Onitsha people but a question of reality on ground.

Thank you for your understanding of the argument. That was the same thing i have been trying to educate pezienza on.

nnamdijonathan:
All the areas called Onitsha today are called Onitsha because of the popularity of the community not because of superiority.
Onitsha community has a landmass of slightly over 50sqkm with an urban spread or metropolitan area of 1,965sqkm.

My friend you are over rated i thought you knew something before now.

So Warri is a new nomenclature? Nwokem gbafuo from here or use your Google to educate yourself.

So do you think FG is interested in what Omagwa people wanted before naming the airport Port Harcourt international airport? That was the same thing that happened in the case of Onitsha Port and Onitsha Naval Base that are all in Ogbaru land.

Your problem is that you are yet to understand the argument. No one is changing Ogidi name to Onitsha. What happened was that Onitsha as a nomenclature dominated because of its popularity and historical inclination. It was the same thing that happened in PH and Warri- bigger cities swallowed smaller ones to form conurbation. That's what you see in PH, Onitsha and Warri.

The same will soon happen at Nnewi because the permanent site for Nnamdi Azikiwe university teaching hospital is between Oraifite and Ozubulu, but what the FG knows is that it is at Nnewi because over the coming years Nnewi as a nomenclature will swallow other smaller and unpopular towns around it and thereby forming Nnewi metropolis. It will still not change the name of Oraifite or Ozubulu but what will happen is that Nnewi as a metro nomenclature will be more popular to people that anyone that arrives Oraifite or Ozubulu will immediately assume to be at Nnewi.

This is what happened in the case of Onitsha metropolitan area. It took decades and eventually Obosi, Nkpor, Ogbaru, Ogidi, Nkwelle etc, came under Onitsha metropolis as nomenclature, though it is not written on any agreement paper but consciousness of anyone that arrives in Ogidi or Obosi or Ogbaru is that he/she is in Onitsha metropolitan area

pazienza:
Rebisi is the part of Ikwerre in PHLGA.
I know enough about the history of PH.

Of course, Omagwa people will readily accept the PH name for the airport, because PH is a neutral name. That's exactly my point. Imagine if PH is named Rebisi or any other local name, do you think the Omagwa people would have accepted the airport in their town being named after another indigenious nearby town?

Warri is same. There is not town named Warri. It's a new name introduced by the colonial masters, which Itsekiri,Ijaws and even Okumagba (Urhobo) people are claiming to have meaning in their tongues. It's a unifying factor for the three ethnic groups, it belongs to no one particular town .

Onitsha people have claimed part of Awada today, only some part are still within Obosi control.
Good luck convincing Obosi people to accept anything that would tag their remaining part of Awada as anything but Obosi.

If you have access to powers that be. Better tell them to look for a neutral official name for the emerging city, because, this greater Onitsha thing, Odikwa very risky o!

You seems to muddling up everything. Nobody is changing the name of Ogidi or Obosi. What happened was that Onitsha development over ran those smaller towns. So over time anyone that found himself in the building material at Ogidi will naturally feel he is in Onitsha.

No one is changing any name because by subconscious reasoning people are naturally keying into it as development reaches there are.

30yrs ago Awada was forest farm land for Idemili people but today it is part of Onitsha metropolitan area because of nearness to Onitsha and advancement of development from Onitsha.

It is something people unconsciously do without even knowing it

You know absolutely nothing about PH. The actual PH is just Port Harcourt local govt but today Obioakpor is now part and parcel of PH because of the influence and expansion of PH. Anyone in Obioakpor is in PH. Obioakpor nomenclature is remembered during elections only. Lol

Port Harcourt international airport is in Ikwerre LGA but it is called PH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. Why not OMGWA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. It is because of popularity of PH among all the town around.

In Delta state, Warri is more popular than Effurun, but it is in Effurun that all the banks are located. Even airport in Warri is located in Effurun but because of it was Warri that made that region popular because it has existed and had ancient developments which marks its history ahead of Effurun. You hardly hear of Effurun, does it mean that there are no indigenes of Effurun? NO. So Warri has become the metro name that covers Effurun, Udu, Owveh etc. No one remembers those smaller towns even when you are there.

That was what happened in the case of Onitsha metro and other surrounding towns.

pazienza:
I agree completely with you that Ogidi is now part of Onitsha metropolis.

But I'm also agreeing with MXrep, that Idemili people will never accept the "Onitsha" name, as a unifying factor for all the other towns. This is why you can't erect sign post in Obosi and write Onitsha below it. The Youths will come for your head.

For peace and development, a new name should be adopted that will be accepted to all. Let's say we adopt "Ofuobi" as the name of the new city.

So that instead of saying Fegge, Onitsha. It will now be, Fegge - Ofuobi, Amafor-Ofuobi( instead of Amafor Nkpor), Iyienu-Ofuobi, etc.

This is how it should be.

Onitsha people should not expect Ndi Idemili to throw away our individual towns, if Onitsha are not going to lose theirs as well.

Why greater Onitsha? Why not Greater Obosi

Imagine naming Enugu city, Greater Ngwo? Do you think Amechi, Nike, Ugwuaji, Akwuke people will ever agree to such?

Or naming PH city, Greater Rebisi ? Will Okirika and other Ikwerre clans accept such?

Why do you lots expect Onitsha case to be different.

Incase you don't know, even Okpanam people are resisting naming their town Asaba. They insist it is Okpanam and not under Asaba

Yes, we are clannish people. Let's not deceive ourselves and cause needless problems.

The city planners should look for and adopt a new name.
Ofuobi city, Anambra city, etc.

That's my One kobo

If there is any mega establishment in Ogidi either by the state or FG, it will automatically be linked to Onitsha nomenclature, because Onitsha serves as the metro area where it is located, not because Onitsha people are superior or inferior but because it is the most popular in that region. This is Onitsha Port, it is located in Ogbaru. Are you aware?

pazienza:
I don't know for Ogbaru people.
But I know you can't erect any signpost in Obosi, Oba Nkpor, Umuoji, Ogidi and write it Onitsha.
No one will tolerate it in Idemili, anyone telling you it will be tolerated here, is just playing to gallery.

Try to understand the point. What we are saying is that Ogidi, Nkpor, Nkwelle, Obosi etc are unconsciously or consciously already part of Onitsha metro because of proximity. It means that Onitsha as it were influenced those areas, just like Onitsha influenced Asaba though in another state. This is Harbour Industrial estate Onitsha but it is located in Ogbaru. Nobody is saying that Ogidi is under Onitsha but by virtue of Onitsha being the largest of them both historically, economically and strategically it has come to be the unifying metro name.

pazienza:
That one is different.
It's for administrative convenience. It's allowed.

For instance even in Christendom. There is one Bishop called Bishop on the Niger(Onitsha metropolis), this bishop oversees all those areas that formed part of Onitsha metroplis.

I gave you example. Naval Base is in Ogbaru but the signpost says that it is Onitsha. This brings us to the point, I was making that all those areas including Ogidi, Nkwelle, Obosi etc are now part of Onitsha metro.

pazienza:
Is the Naval base in Nkpor, Obosi or Ogidi land?