pazienza:


That one is different.
It's for administrative convenience. It's allowed.

pazienza:

I don't know for Ogbaru people.
But I know you can't erect any signpost in Obosi, Oba Nkpor, Umuoji, Ogidi and write it Onitsha.
No one will tolerate it in Idemili, anyone telling you it will be tolerated here, is just playing to gallery.

MxreR:
Try to understand the point. What we are saying is that Ogidi, Nkpor, Nkwelle, Obosi etc are unconsciously or consciously already part of Onitsha metro because of proximity. It means that Onitsha as it were influenced those areas, just like Onitsha influenced Asaba though in another state. This is Harbour Industrial estate Onitsha but it is located in Ogbaru. Nobody is saying that Ogidi is under Onitsha but by virtue of Onitsha being the largest of them both historically, economically and strategically it has come to be the unifying metro name.

pazienza:


I agree completely with you that Ogidi is now part of Onitsha metropolis.

But I'm also agreeing with MXrep, that Idemili people will never accept the "Onitsha" name, as a unifying factor for all the other towns. This is why you can't erect sign post in Obosi and write Onitsha below it. The Youths will come for your head.

For peace and development, a new name should be adopted that will be accepted to all. Let's say we adopt "Ofuobi" as the name of the new city.

So that instead of saying Fegge, Onitsha. It will now be, Fegge - Ofuobi, Amafor-Ofuobi( instead of Amafor Nkpor), Iyienu-Ofuobi, etc.

This is how it should be.

Onitsha people should not expect Ndi Idemili to throw away our individual towns, if Onitsha are not going to lose theirs as well.

Why greater Onitsha? Why not Greater Obosi

Imagine naming Enugu city, Greater Ngwo? Do you think Amechi, Nike, Ugwuaji, Akwuke people will ever agree to such?

Or naming PH city, Greater Rebisi ? Will Okirika and other Ikwerre clans accept such?

Why do you lots expect Onitsha case to be different.

Incase you don't know, even Okpanam people are resisting naming their town Asaba. They insist it is Okpanam and not under Asaba

Yes, we are clannish people. Let's not deceive ourselves and cause needless problems.

The city planners should look for and adopt a new name.
Ofuobi city, Anambra city, etc.

That's my One kobo

globemoney:

Hahaha, who cares? did Atiku/Obi win with your useless vote? Stay clear of Anambra. Anambra is APGA.. Keep your failed atiku nonsense in your Abuja

MxreR:
You seems to muddling up everything. Nobody is changing the name of Ogidi or Obosi. What happened was that Onitsha development over ran those smaller towns. So over time anyone that found himself in the building material at Ogidi will naturally feel he is in Onitsha.

No one is changing any name because by subconscious reasoning people are naturally keying into it as development reaches there are.

30yrs ago Awada was forest farm land for Idemili people but today it is part of Onitsha metropolitan area because of nearness to Onitsha and advancement of development from Onitsha.

It is something people unconsciously do without even knowing it

You know absolutely nothing about PH. The actual PH is just Port Harcourt local govt but today Obioakpor is now part and parcel of PH because of the influence and expansion of PH. Anyone in Obioakpor is in PH. Obioakpor nomenclature is remembered during elections only. Lol

Port Harcourt international airport is in Ikwerre LGA but it is called PH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. Why not OMGWA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. It is because of popularity of PH among all the town around.

In Delta state, Warri is more popular than Effurun, but it is in Effurun that all the banks are located. Even airport in Warri is located in Effurun but because of it was Warri that made that region popular because it has existed and had ancient developments which marks its history ahead of Effurun. You hardly hear of Effurun, does it mean that there are no indigenes of Effurun? NO. So Warri has become the metro name that covers Effurun, Udu, Owveh etc. No one remembers those smaller towns even when you are there.

That was what happened in the case of Onitsha metro and other surrounding towns.

nwanyionitsha:
I spoke for myself. Always speak for yourself. You don't represent Anambra.

pazienza:


Rebisi is the part of Ikwerre in PHLGA.
I know enough about the history of PH.

Of course, Omagwa people will readily accept the PH name for the airport, because PH is a neutral name. That's exactly my point. Imagine if PH is named Rebisi or any other local name, do you think the Omagwa people would have accepted the airport in their town being named after another indigenious nearby town?

Warri is same. There is not town named Warri. It's a new name introduced by the colonial masters, which Itsekiri,Ijaws and even Okumagba (Urhobo) people are claiming to have meaning in their tongues. It's a unifying factor for the three ethnic groups, it belongs to no one particular town .

Onitsha people have claimed part of Awada today, only some part are still within Obosi control.
Good luck convincing Obosi people to accept anything that would tag their remaining part of Awada as anything but Obosi.

If you have access to powers that be. Better tell them to look for a neutral official name for the emerging city, because, this greater Onitsha thing, Odikwa very risky o!

globemoney:

We are tired of your noise. Keep your opinion to yourself. The election has come and gone and a winner and LOSER has emerged. You Peter Obi losers will keep cursing and abusing until it’s quite clear to you all that Obi is finished politically. That’s it! Anambra is APGA.

nnamdijonathan:
All the areas called Onitsha today are called Onitsha because of the popularity of the community not because of superiority.
Onitsha community has a landmass of slightly over 50sqkm with an urban spread or metropolitan area of 1,965sqkm.

nwanyionitsha:
Get lost. I don't have time for you.
Like i said.,speak for yourself .

MxreR:
My friend you are over rated i thought you knew something before now.

So who Warri is a new nomenclature? Nwokem gbafuo from here or use your Google to educate yourself.

So do you think FG is interested in what Omagwa people wanted before naming the airport Port Harcourt international airport? That was the same thing that happened in the case of Onitsha Port and Onitsha Naval Base that are all in Ogbaru land.

Your problem is that you are yet to understand the argument. No one is changing Ogidi name to Onitsha. What happened was that Onitsha as a nomenclature dominated because of its popularity and historical inclination. It was the same thing that happened in PH and Warri- bigger cities swallowed smaller ones to form conurbation. That's what you see in PH, Onitsha and Warri.

The same will soon happen at Nnewi because the permanent site for Nnamdi Azikiwe university teaching hospital is between Oraifite and Ozubulu, but what the FG knows is that it is at Nnewi because over the coming years Nnewi as a nomenclature will swallow other smaller and unpopular towns around it and thereby forming Nnewi metropolis. It will still not change the name of Oraifite or Ozubulu but what will happen is that Nnewi as a metro nomenclature will be more popular to people that anyone that arrives Oraifite or Ozubulu will immediately assume to be at Nnewi.

This is what happened in the case of Onitsha metropolitan area. It took decades and eventually Obosi, Nkpor, Ogbaru, Ogidi, Nkwelle etc eventually came under Onitsha metropolis as nomenclature, though it is not written on any paper but consciousness of anyone in Ogidi or Obosi or Ogbaru is that he/she is in Onitsha metropolitan area

MxreR:
Pazienza look at the population and land area of Onitsha. This couldn't have been just Onitsha North and South, it is because the authorities have come to understand that Onitsha metropolis has swallowed up the entire area surrounding the Onitsha city as it were, and now forming conurbation(mega city). It has absolutely nothing to do with superiority or not of Onitsha people but a question of reality on ground.

pazienza:


Yes, Warri is a new nomenclature. Itsekiriis claim it was derived from the ancient name of Itsekiri, ie Iwere, Ijaws claim it was derived from the Ijaw word "Wari" which means home/house.

Urhobos has their own version of the name origin.

Bottomline is that it doesn't belong to anyone. It's a generic name the three ethnic groups there lay claim to. We can't say same of Onitsha. Onitsha belongs to Onitsha people only.

I didn't say that anyone is changing the name of Ogidi to Onitsha. But you have to realize that for Ogidi to become one city with Onitsha, names of places in Ogidi will have to bear Onitsha. And this will never happen, because neither Ogidi, Obosi or Nkpor people will permit it.

Greater Onitsha will no doubt exist in city planners book, in people's subconsciousness and all. But it will not exist in real life setting, because you will never be allowed to write Onitsha, whether greater or lesser, in any signpost in Idemili.

That's the reality I am trying to bring to your notice.

It doesn't mean I support or oppose the greater Onitsha thing, I'm merely bringing home to you, the situation on ground.

pazienza:


Believe me, I understand you. You are are the one that has refused to understand me.

I am very much aware that Greater Onitsha exists in Anambra city development and planning commission books. I'm aware it exists in people, especially "ndi mbia mbia" subconsciousness, but it doesn't exist in the reality for Idemili people.
For example, if you ask many non Indigenes resident in Nkpor or Obosi where they reside, they will first of all tell you Onitsha, then when you ask them the part of Onitsha, they will say Obosi or Nkpor, as the case maybe.
But an Obosi or Nkpor person will never give you such reply. To him, it's Nkpor in Idemili North LGA, and not Nkpor in Onitsha.
The idea of Nkpor in Onitsha, is one non Idemili people living in Nkpor, Umuoji , Oba, Obosi or Ogidi propagate. The indigenes will not tolerate such idea.

MxreR:
Pazienza look at the population and land area of Onitsha. This couldn't have been just Onitsha North and South, it is because the authorities have come to understand that Onitsha metropolis has swallowed up the entire area surrounding the Onitsha city as it were, and now forming conurbation(mega city). It has absolutely nothing to do with superiority or not of Onitsha people but a question of reality on ground.

Yyeske:
Good and constructive arguement here but there are some things you guys fail to understand about the nomenclature of the Onitsha metro area, I live at Odume layout and we all generally refer to the place as Onitsha, same for someone living in Awada, Ugwuagba all parts of Obosi, residents will tell you they live in Onitsha but same cannot be said of Obosi town itself because it has not been incoporated fully into Onitsha.
Residents of Afor Nkpor, areas around Mgbuka, Nkpor main market etc all refer to those places as Onitsha but same cannot be said of Eke Nkpor because it has not yet been swallowed up yet.
Ugwunwasike in Ogidi down to Nkpor is equally refferd to as Onitsha but not all parts of Ogidi for same reason.
Abata Nsugbe has been swallowed up people refer to the place as Onitsha but same is not yet applicable to other parts of Nsugbe.
If you all can recall, when the state government banned Okada last year it only covered the metro area itself but left the areas not yet incoporated and thats why okada still functions in places like Eke Nkpor but not in Afor Nkpor.

globemoney:

We are tired of your noise. Keep your opinion to yourself. The election has come and gone and a winner and LOSER has emerged. You Peter Obi losers will keep cursing and abusing until it’s quite clear to you all that Obi is finished politically. That’s it! Anambra is APGA.

globemoney:
APGA must sweep all Anambra house of assembly seats on saturday!! The desperate, failed and shamed politician Peter obi is back again to keep embarrassing himself, he's now funding PDP house of assembly candidates and campaigning for them as his last effort to stay relevant.
He will keep failing, I am happy that he is finally spending some of the monies he stole from Anambra and hopefully, he will never recover them again... APGA must clear all Anambra seats on saturday!


, nonsobaba, mopolchi, ngadawo, nwanyionitsha, tsinzu, Anambraforpeter, mekaboy, etc

Niccoloimhotep:
APGA as far as am concerned has started taking anambra people for granted. The mere fact that the party is widely accepted across the state made them feel relaxed and hardly engage in any capital projects these days. Nnewi and Awka malls has been abandoned for years, aesthetic is dead in the state, and finally, obianos second tenure has almost gotten to an end yet all the promises he made when he got into power are nowhere to be found. Where is the dubai, kigali and rwanda city models he promised? Where is the skyscrapper skylined city he promised? Ordinary greenwood estate has been abandoned. Another idiot wiĺl come into power soon and tell us mouthwatering stories of how he will relocate the statue of liberty to nnewi. Clowns!

globemoney:

Can you mention any governor in Nigeria performing better than Obiano

nnamdijonathan:
All the areas called Onitsha today are called Onitsha because of the popularity of the community not because of superiority.
Onitsha community has a landmass of slightly over 50sqkm with an urban spread or metropolitan area of 1,965sqkm.

globemoney:

Can you mention any governor in Nigeria performing better than Obiano

MXrep:

Very childish of him

hammerFC:



We are waiting for Soludo.


It is long overdue.


I hope Ifeanyi Ubah remains in the Senate.


Bianca need to build her profile back up in Anambra by accepting maybe commissioner under Soludo.


Who knows, after Buhari she might get a ministerial position.

Niccoloimhotep:
if i start mentioning them now, you will still refer me back to how much FG gives them monthly which am not ready to debate on. I also dont want to believe obiano is the best in nigeria notwithstanding he did fairly well in anambra. But what he has on ground is a far cry from what he promised. Where are those fish ponds he promised that each one would be as big as a football field and be manned by 50 youths per pond. Where are the malls he promised completing? Where's the airport he promised? Where is the 5B naira monthly IGR? Where's the waste recycling plant he promised to build? Where is the industries he promised to attract foreigners to build? Am just tired of nigerian politics honestly. If you look at where we are, the pace of movement of the govt and where they promised to take us to, you go just weak. I dont have energy to argue, if you think he did well then good. If you think he performed below expectation and needs to improve, that's also good.