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EreluRoz:
You guys are always aggressive except for Samantha who was a very cool headed lady.

Why the anger and so much hate for Nigerians?

Go back and carefully read the first 2 comments of this thread, and tell me if you guys🇳🇬 don't have issues that need tissues. I'm just playing along with your game, son.

God1000:
lol, I don't believe your fake news man

Check this out

How would you believe it when you didn't read it? This your point is highlighted in the 4th paragraph of original post. It still doesn't change the fact SA doctors earn 40 times more than you🇳🇬 in a span of a year - R900,000 vs R22,000 despite being stuck on 2015 wages.

So in actual fact it should be x60 by now.

EreluRoz:
Why is Nigeria always their target? Indeed we are the giant of Africa

Kenyans come claim your giant of Africa status as well, you were also mentioned.

God1000:
But unemployment rate is still very high in south Africa

I'm beginning to see why, wages in SA are very high. You can get 40 Nigerian doctors for the price of one South African. And actually pay them on time.

Unemployed doctors aren't the health department's only vice; those who do work in state clinics and hospitals are heavily underpaid, says the South African Medical Association (SAMA).

Yet, South African government doctors earn up to three times more in a month than what some make in a year in other middle-income countries in Africa, such as Kenya and Nigeria.

But while the government is scrambling to get enough money to ensure that all 694 unemployed doctors, as well as recently graduated healthcare professionals, are employed, SAMA says the country's public-sector doctors aren't paid enough.

At a media briefing ahead of SAMA's annual conference in mid-February, Mzulungile Nodikida, CEO of the association, said that a study commissioned by them shows that those doctors who are already employed by provincial health departments "are earning 2015 salaries".

The study found doctors are experiencing "cost-of-living pressures", but also concedes that their salaries are "above what other similar income-level countries pay their doctors".


SA VS KENYA AND NIGERIA

For example, in Kenya, medical interns were paid around Ksh122 000 and Ksh145 000 per month (including risk and housing allowances) according to the 2013 Commission's allowances for government employees. This works out to around R16 000 to R19 000 a month, compared to the almost R28 000 a medical intern earns monthly in South Africa that year.

Similarly, an entry-level medical officer (which, in South Africa, means you have completed two years' internship and a year of community service) was paid Ksh250 000 (about R32 500) a month in Kenya from 2013, whereas their South African counterparts earned almost R62 000 per month.

Salaries for doctors in Nigeria — which is experiencing a large-scale exodus of doctors — are even lower.

Data from the National Salary, Income and Wages Commission in Nigeria shows that an entry-level doctor currently earns roughly NN1.8 million (about R22 000) per year, compared with someone in a similar post in South Africa getting more than three times that per month. In other words, South African medical officers earn 40.9 times more than Nigerian entry-level doctors (R900 000 vs R22 000 per year).

The health department says it has not yet looked at why SAMA claims doctors should earn more. But, says Foster Mohale, spokesperson for the department, they have "had meetings [with SAMA] and we are planning to review our salary scales".


SA DOCTORS' SALARY SCALES

Each post in which doctors work has different levels, with a specific basic salary linked to it. For example, an entry-level medical officer would be on a Grade 1 salary, which sits at just over 900 000 rands a year (75 million naira). A medical officer is a doctor who has completed their mandatory two-year internship and a year of community service and works at a public sector hospital.

After five years' experience in the position and depending on their performance, they can move on to a Grade 2 salary in that post, and earn a basic starting salary of just over R1 million (N83 million). Grade 3 medical officers earn between R1.2 million (N100 million) and R1.5 million (N125 million) a year.


CHALLENGES FACING SA DOCTORS

The SAMA-commissioned study suggests that money is a big issue. Like all other public servants, doctors get a salary increase every year, yet the study notes that doctors have felt "a significant erosion in income levels" over the past few years because of small increases, particularly, they say, considering "inflation as well as cost-of-living pressures".

Between 2013 and 2019, yearly increases were above inflation, but in 2020 the government implemented a salary freeze to keep its wage bill in check.

However, money isn't the only issue that stops doctors from working for the state. Long working hours because of too few personnel and safety concerns, both at urban and at rural facilities, were also mentioned as deterrents.

More than 70% of South Africans use government facilities, yet there's only about three doctors for every 10 000 patients in the public system. This means that the doctors who work in state hospitals have a heavy workload. A 2021 study showed that working almost 60 hours a week was common, contributing to more than 80% of these workers experiencing burnout. Burnout is job-related stress which can cause exhaustion and negative reactions to patients.

"Doctors in South Africa frequently contend with heavy workloads and long working hours … making maintaining a healthy work-life balance challenging," said Mzukwa.

Safety at state facilities is also a problem. Between 2017 and 2022, around 200 violent incidents at public hospitals were reported across four provinces — and that's only security issues that were big enough to get noticed.

In response to this week's budget announcements, SAMA says they hope enough funds will be put towards dealing with "the shortage of doctors in hospitals and the plight faced by medical practitioners where salaries have been eroded by inflation over the years".

https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/sa-doctors-make-up-to-40-times-more-than-those-in-kenya-and-nigeria-20240223#:~:text=In%20other%20words%2C%20South%20African,claims%20doctors%20should%20earn%20more.

JaceBlaze:
Literally,I heard that some Nigerians collapsed during Nigeria vs South Africa match thinking SA was going to win.Are really that much of a nightmare to these folks?

Dude, just look at them bouncing off the walls throughout this thread. White worshippers had nothing to say in yesterday's thread where a white motorist killed a Nigerian in a Pretoria road rage case. They're seriously triggered by black SAns🇿🇦🏆

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Japa and South Africans are not 5 & 6.

South Africans returning home in droves despite challenges.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOsR5DPRq34?si=I4sr6MLpSWipgjeJ

Japagerian problems.

foxman04:
bald headed xenophobic pigs .. always jealous of another man's success
they are not different from the abokis in Nigeria, nonsense

Yes, drug dealer and scammer! You're innocent, right?

Franzinni:
winning grammy by pouring water on your ass and twerking seductively yooo! You call grammy like it means anything ... As it stands South Africans are the worst melanated humans and it's down to their lack of self worth ... Look at that idiot urinating into someones business no wonder the whites relegate you to second class citizens in your country ... Even the coloured have distanced themselves from the tin can dwelling, hate-filled, directionless good for nothing lot... And it's usually their men.... Because their women are quick to shack up with MEN from other countries, who know how to show a woman a good time. FOH!

You sound like you wanna cry. The guy pissing is coloured. The women into Nigerians are rejects into drug dealers and yahoo boys.

CJStarz:
Inasmuch as it's good to be patriotic,do you support that crazy act,of urinating inside the shop of a fellow human being, for whatever reasons?

Somalis are very rude. They dont say hello or thank you. Infact all African refugees are unmannered. They cause fights with South Africans because they skip queues, serve their friends or big guys first, etc. All cr#p we hate in SA.

You goats think its ok to be this uncultured.🇳🇬👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾

betshopagent:
That's what the xenophobia legends are known for . Let them try it with Nigerian; that prick would never rise Again. Such audacity. Village idiot feeling funky

The same Nigerians who were ordered to celebrate their afcon win in their basements?☹️☹️☹️

Trimjos:
The only thing these black SA folks re good at is xenophobia and AIDS

We're also good at winning Grammy's and giving you heart attacks at AFCON 🇿🇦🏆

heniford2:
Black SA are worst people to associate with

henifraud, una still alive ☹️💩💩💩

Somalis and South Africans attack each other in the comments section.

Man publicly urinates into a typical Somali-owned tuck shop in South Africa. Video sparks anger and humour. The video received over 8,000 likes.

Video:

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7336937557441268998/

airexx:
e pain am! Get out of here black rasist peeg!

RIP in advance for world cup qualifiers👎🏾🇳🇬💩. We will field relegation bound Chipped United for you, Mamelodi Sundowns FC was too much for you 🇿🇦🏆

Nwabali having goals raining on him in SA league hence perennial relegation 😂😂😂😂🇳🇬💩💩💩 (public gutter pooping emoji synonymous with Super Generator Republic 🇳🇬👎🏾😂

MASTERCHIEF0847:
How many SA players ply their trade in top clubs in Europe?

Wow, I went away for 7 hours and see you're all bouncing off the walls!🇳🇬👎🏾💩💩💩

Did you miss the part where I mentioned SA doesn't white like Japageria? Our players earn millions (not naira) in SA. Everything about SA is self sufficient.

Go poop in a gutter white white worshipping EPL👎🏾🇳🇬💩💩💩

FODA:
u can't give what you don't have,how many quality player u have in top team abroad,you pple should stop envying d guy

We don't have to go abroad like you do - our country and league are world-class 🇿🇦🏆 How do we envy a japagerian playing in a relegation zone in our own league? Sometimes the things you say as Nigerians are so brainless🇳🇬👎🏾

Samakus:
True. But we're still taking all your big arsed women. They can't just stay without Nigerian men.

If you spent as much effort into building toilets and not pooping into public gutters at your elderly age💩🇳🇬💩, you might actually stop being japagerians and have a cow-ntry you can be proud of like us South Africans 🇿🇦🏆

We even have a league that gave you heart attacks at Afcon🇿🇦🏆 Keep thinking about sex, that's all you're good at, Hungergerian.

Keep wailing, wailers👎🏾🇳🇬 and remember to check your BPs when dealing with us - we all know how bad SA is for your health 🇿🇦🏆

Your Europe based stars played against Mamelodi Sundowns FC at Afcon and still you struggled 😂 That was the real final, hence the heart attacks in Generator Republic.

How do you guys manage to stay on life support without electricity?☹️☹️☹️

KosiGee:
He might be nothing in South Africa but he sent Bafana bafana packing.

We're not the ones who were having heart attacks 👎🏾🇳🇬😂 And goals are raining his net hence perennial relegation zone. Did you notice Williams ' team is number 1? Hence Afcon goalkeeper of the tournament 🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆

Did you notice SA fielded an entire squad of locally based players except one from Al Ahly, and still came 3rd at Afcon? 🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆🏆

sulaak:

Free lesson, all companies registered in SA are required by law to have a share of black ownership - it's called Black Economic Empowerment.

The above statement is the reason why South African blacks are tanking the SA economy. Why can't the Blacks build their own companies, the ANC has been in government for the best part of 30 years, yet they still persist with a corrupt policy that will enrich a lazy black elite.

First answer which Nigerian businesses can outcompete SA businesses after 60 years of black independence and massive oil wealth? 👎🏾🇳🇬😂

Go study the nature and monopoly of SA economy constructed by the Afrikaner Broederbond before stinking my mentions.

judatech:
This guy don blow this club.

Only in boastful Nigeria. In SA he's nothing.

Chippa United is currently sitting at 12 out of 16 teams in the South African DSTV Premier Soccer League (PSL), and were close to relegation last season (2023).

MrSamsung:
So that particular call airtime is charged differently and tied to the 'Please Call Me'?

Please call me encourages traffic which means more calls, meaning more revenue for the company.

MrSamsung:
If the 'Please Call Me' product was a FREE missed call service and also get your contacts attention WITHOUT USING AIRTIME, how then did it generate a revenue of R205billion?

The people calling you back used airtime over an 18 year period.

Kenneth Nkosana Makate wants 29 billion rands (2,3 trillion naira) from Vodacom for his 'Please Call Me' idea – which would instantly make him the fifth richest person in South Africa – placing him among the likes of Motsepe, Oppenheimer, and Rupert.

It was recently revealed in court documents related to the ongoing 'Please Call Me' legal battle that Nkosana Makate could stand to score R29 billion – at minimum – in compensation from Vodacom.

According to Makate, he had an idea for a free missed-call service that he shared with his superior at Vodacom in 2001. The service aimed to allow customers to get their contacts’ attention without using airtime.

As reported by Daily Investor, Vodacom launched the service, known as 'Please Call Me', in March 2001, and it became widely used across South Africa.

However, while Makate was involved in the idea phase of the product, he did not have any role in patenting, developing, or implementing it.

The invention of Please Call Me, at least in the form that reached consumers, is, in fact, not credited to Makate.

Legal expert Ari Kahn invented and patented his ‘Please Call Me’ service for another service provider, MTN, two months before Vodacom released its product.

Despite this, Makate launched a lengthy legal battle against Vodacom, seeking compensation for his idea.

Makate’s legal team had initially demanded R20 billion (N1,6 trillion) to compensate him for his idea, based on a calculation that the 'Please Call Me' product had generated R205 billion (N16 trillion) in revenue since its implementation.

Vodacom did not share Makate’s views on how much revenue the service generated or how much he deserved. The courts, however, have so far sided with the group’s former employee on the matter.

After being ordered to fairly compensate Makate for his idea, Vodacom initially offered him R10 million (N790 million). Makate rejected this offer, and Vodacom CEO Shameel Joosub’s team then constructed four models to estimate how much Makate should get, based on different scenarios.

After averaging the two models with the highest values, he came up with an offer of R47 million (N3,7 billion). However, Makate rejected this as well, and the matter again ended up in court.

Makate approached the High Court, and in February 2022, the court ruled in his favour. Vodacom appealed this ruling at the Supreme Court of Appeal.

However, the Supreme Court dismissed Vodacom’s appeal and ordered the company to compensate Makate between 5% and 7.5% of the revenue generated by the service over 18 years.

According to MyBroadband’s analysis, this ranges from R28.99 billion (N2,3 trillion) to R55.37 billion (N4,3 trillion) using the models accepted by the court.

Vodacom is not satisfied with the ruling and is taking the matter back to the Constitutional Court.

POTENTIAL RICH LIST

If Makate ultimately gets the calculated payday, he would instantly become one of the top five richest South Africans today, even at the ‘lower’ R29 billion (N2,3 trillion) end of the compensation range.

He would be in the same league as South African business icons such as Johann Rupert, Nicky Oppenheimer, Koos Bekker, and Patrice Motsepe.

These business moguls built their wealth over a lifetime or even generations. They were the best of the best in their fields and built very large and successful businesses to generate their wealth.

Based on the court ruling, Makate would immediately join their ranks – for sharing a single idea with his superior.

hotwax:
Yes they won and the court order Israel to pay South Africa 50billion dollar… the court also ruled that Israel leave Gaza.

The court mandated Israel to pay each Gazan 2000dollars..

Werey ni eee..werey

Lol, who's this one that doesn't understand diplomacy?

Lol, when SA won against Israel at the same ICJ last month it didn't make frontpage - where were all the haters then? 😂😂😂.

This time around the ICJ only said it had already warned Israel of its actions. So its not a loss for SA - Israel is on watch. White worshipping wailers can keep wailing!