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Politics / Re: Politics Chat Room - "The Beer Parlour" by naijaman20: 8:56pm On Jan 11, 2015
Homguy:
mods pls do the needful. the last time I checked there's still freedom of expression here. indeed it doesn't reek like he contravened any of the forum rules except nairaland has been bought over. pls do not soil the name of this site. do the needful.

U don't come here to abuse elders weather GEJ or GMB
Politics / I Am Charlie/je Suis Charlie by naijaman20: 8:52pm On Jan 11, 2015
I am charlie. Below is the extract of the internal email that caused ripples within Aljazera and the world over on how the terrorist attack on Charlie Hebdo should be covered. Aljazera has defended the diversity of opinion in those emails which pitched core arab staffs against western staffs views. Read and comment

Dear Editorial colleagues,

Please accept this note in the spirit it is intended – to make our coverage the best that it can be …. We are Al Jazeera!!!!

My suggestion is that we question and raise the following points in our coverage – studio/anchors/guests/correspondents:

*This was a targeted attack, not a broad attack on the french population a la Twin towers or 7/7 style. So who was this attack against? The whole of France/EU society? Or specifically this magazine. The difference lies in how this is reported not in how terrible the act is obviously – murder is murder either way… but poses a narrower question of the “why”? attack on french society and values? Only if you consider CH’s racist caricatures to be the best of European intellectual production (total whitewash on that at the moment)

*Was this really an attack on “Free speech”? Who is attacking free speech here exactly? Does an attack by 2-3 guys on a controversial magazine equate to a civilizational attack on European values..? Really?

*”I am Charlie” as an alienating slogan – with us or against us type of statement – one can be anti-CH’s racism and ALSO against murdering people(!) (obvious I know but worth stating)

*Also worth stating that we still don’t know much about the motivations of the attackers outside of the few words overheard on the video. Yes, clearly it was a “punishment” for the cartoons, but it didn’t take them 8/9 years to prep this attack (2006 was Danish/CH publication) – this is perhaps a response to something more immediate…French action against ISIL…? Mali? Libya? CH just the target ie focus of the attack..?

*Danger in making this a free speech aka “European Values” under attack binary is that it once again constructs European identity in opposition to Islam (sacred depictions) and cements the notion of a European identity under threat from an Islamic retrograde culture of which the attackers are merely the violent tip of the iceberg (see the seeping of Far Right discourse into french normalcy with Houellebecque’s novel for example)

*The key is to look at the biographies of these guys – contrary to conventional wisdom, they were radicalised by images of Abu Ghraib not by images of the Prophet Mohammed

*You don’t actually stick it to the terrorists by insulting the majority of Muslims by reproducing more cartoons – you actually entrench the very animosity and divisions these guys seek to sow.

*This is a clash of extremist fringes…

I suggest a re-read of the Time magazine article back from 2011 and I have selected the most poignant/important excerpt….

http://world.time.com/2011/11/02/firebombed-french-paper-a-victim-of-islamistsor-its-own-obnoxious-islamophobia/?iid=gs-article-mostpop1http://world.time.com/2011/11/02/firebombed-french-paper-a-victim-of-islamistsor-its-own-obnoxious-islamophobia/?iid=gs-article-mostpop1

*It’s unclear what the objectives of the caricatures were other than to offend Muslims—and provoke hysteria among extremists.

Defending freedom of expression in the face of oppression is one thing; insisting on the right to be obnoxious and offensive just because you can is infantile. Baiting extremists isn’t bravely defiant when your manner of doing so is more significant in offending millions of moderate people as well. And within a climate where violent response—however illegitimate—is a real risk, taking a goading stand on a principle virtually no one contests is worse than pointless: it’s pointlessly all about you.

Kind regards

Salah-Aldeen Khadr
​Executive Producer
Al Jazeera English

U.S.-based correspondent Tom Ackerman:

Friday, January 9, 2015
Subject: RE: AJ coverage of events in Paris

If a large enough group of someone is willing to kill you for saying something, then it’s something that almost certainly needs to be said, because otherwise the violent have veto power over liberal civilization, and when that scenario obtains it isn’t really a liberal civilization any more….liberalism doesn’t depend on everyone offending everyone else all the time, and it’s okay to prefer a society where offense for its own sake is limited rather than pervasive. But when offenses are policed by murder, that’s when we need more of them, not less, because the murderers cannot be allowed for a single moment to think that their strategy can succeed.

-Ross Douthat in the NY Times

Doha-based correspondent Mohamed Vall Salem:

Friday, January 9, 2015
Subject: RE: AJ coverage of events in Paris

“large enough group”?

Friday, January 9, 2015
Subject: RE: AJ coverage of events in Paris

Rejoinder,

I guess if you insult 1.5 billion people chances are one or two of them will kill you… they don’t represent the 1.5 who swallowed the insult in silence and patience in the name of free speech.

And I guess if you encourage people to go on insulting 1.5 billion people about their most sacred icons then you just want more killings because as I said in 1.5 billion there will remain some fools who don’t abide by the laws or know about free speech. Simply put, it’s difficult to control and tame and brake down or otherwise punish or educate all those 1.5 billion people.
Isn’t it simply wiser to respect peoples’ sacred values and sacred icons? Respect breeds respect, insult can degenerate into something worse than just insult, depending who who’s at the the receiving end.

Last, if you no longer have anything that you hold sacred (the death of religion and the death of God etc…), there 1.5 billion people who still have … don’t ignore their values in the name of yours, because values are a cultural construct, they vary from age to age and from culture to culture …

Last, last: what Charlie Hebdo did was not free speech it was an abuse of free speech in my opinion, go back to the cartoons and have a look at them! It’ snot about what the drawing said, it was about how they said it.

I condemn those heinous killings, but I’M NOT CHARLIE

Mohamed Vall

Senior Paris correspondent Jacky Rowland:

Friday, January 9, 2015
Subject: RE: AJ coverage of events in Paris

Dear all

We are Aljazeera. So, a polite reminder:

#journalismisnotacrime

Kind regards
Jacky

Jacky Rowland
Senior Correspondent, Paris
Aljazeera English

Roving reporter Omar Al Saleh:

Friday, January 9, 2015
Subject: RE: AJ coverage of events in Paris
First i condemn the brutal killing. But I AM NOT CHARLIE.

JOURNALISM IS NOT A CRIME
INSULTISM IS NOT JOURNALISM
AND NOT DOING JOURNALISM PROPERLY IS CRIME

OMAR AL SALEH | ROVING REPORTER

ALJAZEERA ENGLISH CHANNEL
NEWS DEPT

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Politics / Re: Buhari Certificate Saga An Assault On The Military - Lai Mohammed. by naijaman20: 1:16pm On Jan 03, 2015
General Buhari is contesting the presidential election for the fourth time under different political parties including the defunct All Nigeria People’s Party, ANPP and the Congress for Progressive Change, CPC, but the issue of his qualifications had never been controversial until the ruling Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, recently described him as a ‘’semi- illiterate.’’

However, against the backdrop of Buhari’s affidavit in court, a military source said ‘’that the Army can not keep anybody’s original certificate because it is the personal property of the owner,’’ adding that such original certificates were only needed at the point of entry into the service.

According to the source, the Military only kept photocopies of credentials of officers and soldiers in their personal files that were in the military secretary’s office.

“The original certificate of any officer or soldier is only needed at the point of entry into the service either as a cadet officer entering the Nigerian Defence Academy, or the recruitment officers when interviewing recruits to be sent to the depot for training. That is so, because they are needed to verify what were in the photocopies supplied by them or from the necessary examining bodies.”

The source further stated that anybody claiming that his original certificates were with the Military Secretary (Army), had ‘’ulterior motive(s) or something he or she cannot explain.’’

He further added, “Let me tell you now, in the Navy, the Navy Secretary, NAVSEC, keep the documents of all Naval officers and ratings and not their original certificates which are their personal property.
http://www.naijalinkz.com/nigerian-army-denies-buharis-original-copy-certificates/

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Politics / Nigerian Army Dismisses 203 Soldiers by naijaman20: 5:45pm On Jan 02, 2015
Nigerian army has dismissed some soldiers secretly. I think this is not the best time to be a nigerian soldier. I guess many entered the army for different reasons that may not be why it is established. The insurgency in the north has exposed the challenges in the army more than ever before.

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Politics / Alhaji Mujahid Asari-dokubo Under Fire From Northern Politicians by naijaman20: 2:56pm On Jan 01, 2015
Alhaji Mujahid Asari-Dokubo, an ex millitant from naija delta region, has in­curred the wrath of some leaders in the North over his statements that Presi­dent Goodluck Jonathan has already won the 2015 presidential election and threats that the country will be on fire if he did not win.

At a news conference in Abuja yesterday, one of the northern leaders and Patron of the Middle Belt Forum, Ambassador Yohanna Mar­gif, warned Asari-Dokubo to be careful with his ut­terances, saying his state­ments were capable of setting in more sentiments and crises that would not beneficial to the country.

He said Asari-Dokubo’s threats to Nigerians over President Jonathan was a slap on the faces of other Nigerians, noting that as much as he had the right to support Jonathan for Presidency as a South- South militant, many other Nigerians too had the right to do so for any of their candidate but should not be threatened by Dokubo.

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Food / Re: Palm Wine! Now In A Can ? by naijaman20: 2:58pm On Dec 07, 2014
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Family / Re: Housemaid Serving The Husband: Is It Right Or Wrong? by naijaman20: 2:50pm On Dec 07, 2014
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Politics / Re: Court Stops Obasanjo From Publishing Autobiography by naijaman20: 2:44pm On Dec 07, 2014
wetin baba iyabo want self? can this man go and rest. God has been magnanimous to him.
Politics / Re: Jonathan's Message to Nigerians on New Year & New Century Of Amalgamation by naijaman20: 5:49pm On Jan 01, 2014
you are the daft here as you dont have clue of what u are saying. GEJ is the best we have seen so far
webdezzi:

you are obviously daft. That road was done during Obj's tenure.
That is my town and i visit there anually

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