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forgiveness:
Lying machine. I showed you 11.

See the last two.

Show me the pictures of AVIC towers topped out.

forgiveness:
Is it the lies you mistook for facts?

Your AVIC is yet to be topped out and your one Africa is not up to 100m. Stop lying.

genieluv:
Wow! Jonraid, why did you have to lie about the distance of paved roads in Kenya?

**** Lying is the height of childishness and desperation.

I have been going pages and pages back on this thread and I have observed that some Kenyans here tell lies a lot just to prove their points.

Thanks for letting us know the truth bro.

forgiveness:
And who told you I don't understand?

Lagos island has more skyscraper than your city centre.

Sandton has ONLY two skyscrapers if that is your definition of CBD.

An acre in Upper hills is just $5m dollars. Stop lying.

Your 300m Skyscraper can only be counted as one.

Lagos state alone has more skyscrapers than the whole of Kenya.

Going by your logic, Victoria Island and Ikoyi have skyscrapers and many more under construction.


This is Victoria Island.

genieluv:
You are very correct.

>>>>However, I think I get the rationale behind his post.
Tbh, you Kenyans seem very patriotic, optimistic and quite enthusiastic about your country. Most Nigerians do not feel this way..

*** I really do not see much differences between Kenya's development and that of Nigeria.
Currently, no sub saharan African country is developing at the speed of countries like China or Malaysia, so I don't really get the enthusiasm of Kenyans towards their country's development.

The attidues and gloomy picture you guys paint of Kenya makes us feel like you guys never criticize your government. That's just is.

¤¤¤¤ Perhaps you guys have the policy of never washing your dirty linens in public?

Please I need enlightenment from all Kenyans here on this subject, thanks @mtisTheQubit, Jay254, rvp20183, kur17

rvp20183:
Nairobi Mini-CBDs.
4) Kilimani CBD.
Kilimani borders upperhill - but is seperate mini-CBD - that will soon become a real CBD. I think near future Nairobi will have 4 cbds...Kilimani-Ngong being the fourth. Way before Eko City complete their 3rd tower

Nairobi when it had 1 CBD in 1980s/1990. Kilimani is on the foreground - with Yaya Center - one of Nairobi Oldest shopping malls proudly sitting there. Upper hill had one tower - like Eko City now.
https://house.jumia.co.ke/journal/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/City.jpg

And now in 2018!! Nairobi has totally transformed - with 3 world class CBDs - and more than 10 mini-cbds (business districts -cities within city)

forgiveness:
Where did you see 28,000km?

See the snapshot.

kikuyu1:
Do you actually want us to destroy those delusions again, srsly? We've done that 20x at least!?

68816419:
how do you even service your debts knowing fully well that your FX reserve of 8B$ is less than Nigeria owns of 47B$?

Kazikazi:
A loan isnt that bad.The issue is,how you use your loan,how you got it,the interest rates etc.A loan itself can't just cause a colonization. It is how you went about it.Japan has a debt of over 200% of their GDP but they are still OK. Tanzania has a debt of about 32% of GDP,Kenya is hitting 60%.If a nation isn't corrupt,debt management becomes easier.

China isn't a biggest investor in Tz.China isn't the biggest funder of Tz projects but the world bank is.Currently we have small projects funded by China, like the library of UDSM.

Kazikazi:
You're mistaken.China was a communist state,Russia too.Poland also so as Vietnam.Are they as poor like the capitalist Kenya? Actually the Chinese who were more communists than Tanzania are more developed than your capitalist Kenya. Recently they gave you food aid.

Blaming Tanzania's socialism in this 2018 is foolish. There are many African nations who are extremely poor than Tz but were not in socialism. Kenya with its starvation issues never had socialism. Those Kenyans who starved to death weren't in a socialism. Why are Kenyans quick to blame Tz on socialism while they buried souls due to lack of a meal?

Tanzania's economy grows faster than Kenya.Will you still blame socialism?

Kenya buried their souls for lack of food due to bad governance. Kenya is poor due to bad governance.Tanzania doesn't utilize fully its resources due to bad governance. Many African countries are where they are due to bad governance. Corruption is a part of bad governance.

Kazikazi:
This topic have been discussed here many times.
Its not just Tanzania but most of our nations shouldn't be where they are currently. We should be in the levels of Malaysia, Singapore or South Sudan.Kenya,Tz,Naija or Ghana were ahead of those nations economically in the 60's.But what happened today? Kenya just received food aid from South Korea!

Its not all about natural resources. Those three nations I mentioned don't have a huge natural resources (Malaysia,south Korea,Singapore). But,they are ahead.

Kenyans shouldn't jump and point fingers at Tz while they have a log in their eyes.Development can be achieved weather you have natural resources or not.Yes Tz don't do well in managing the natural resources. Most of minerals in Tz are still untapped. Over 90% of TZ minerals are still underground. A real question should be.."why Tz doesn't extracts the huge mineral deposits it has"??

And we shouldn't avoid asking, why doesn't kenya use freshwater resources it have for irrigation in Turkana? Why is Kenya poor? Why does Kenya imports fishes from China while it can have them at home? Why does Kenya imports electricity from Uganda while it can generate it at home?

darfay:
tlann, tysermahiri, Kikuyu, nairobiwalker, kenyastar, rsp20183

rvp20183:
That is exactly what makes TZ model untested. Democracy tend to accentuate tribal or racial difference because politicians find it easy to win based on emotions/lies/propaganda than on issues. The more kenya became democratic - the more tribal it got. In days of KANU being the mama na baba - tribal difference were somewhat buried. That could be the case with TZ. They need to allow REAL democracy to thrive. Otherwise right now CCM has stunted basically everything - tribalism is stunted - and so is progress & advancement. Even the average Tanzania is stunted.

Kenya should continue on the path to real democracy - while working on very strict laws to disallow tribalism. We need to figure out the thin-line btw hate speech and free speech - and takes will be an ongoing struggle. Definitely some of tribal talk is so obviously hateful - there is really no need for debate - but to throw culprit in prison. Unfortunately our judiciary has never helped - choosing to behave like they are alien in the country - no single politician as we speak has been jailed for inciting tribal hate - how is that even possible?

Kazikazi:
The religionism which is in Tz is too minimal.Just try to count the number of people who were killed in Kenya in the past years due to tribalism and try to compare with Tz religionism.Is it the same? No.Not even close.[/QUOTE]

In which past years? The last time someone was killed due to tribalism was in 2007.

[QUOTE]
Yes CCM's semi dictatorship isn't that cool.But,we still can't compare ccm's shortcomings to your tribalism. In 2007 Kenya lost about 1500 souls due to tribalism. Did ccm killed that number of people? No.Not even close.

forgiveness:
Hmmm! Why post comments of Nigerians criticizing their government and country if you knew this? Oh! You were just stooping too low, abi? Clown!

genieluv:
Interesting.
I'm sure Kenyans insult and criticize their government and leaders just as we do in Nigeria.

Besides, I just can help but notice the great similarity in Kenyan and Nigerian names.
@mtisTheQubit, Kur17 etc.

Babayo and Njoroge are pure fulani names in Nigeria.

I would have sworn that 'Abuga Makori' was from Kaduna, Nasarawa or Taraba states in Nigeria

Africans are closer than we think we are.

Kazikazi:
Yah.Kenya need to do something about it,although I doubt if this current political elites are willing to let go their privileges for the sake of unity.Kenyans big tribes(Kikuyu's and Luos are the culprits).Eliminating tribalism and corruption needs tons of sacrifices.Are Kikuyu's ready to give up their hegemony? I wish thy are.

Kenyans who are here should start destroying this demon of tribalism right here.Its shocking for a guy to call himself "Kikuyu" in this forum.A guy don't see anything wrong with that.

Kazikazi:
Beautiful lady,I have been treated badly here with these Kenyans.I don't why! I mean they hurt me.I am disappointed. Neighbors who didn't allow me to post photos of Tanzania!
Just imagine they are calling me lazy,now they are saying i have love charm,etc.You know I hate those stone age practices of charms!
But why do they hate me? Why?
And I am the only Tanzanian here.The other guy was left after he was abused in the same manner.They hate me without reason.

Edodefender:
Kenya see your life, we just won another football cup..

How many has Kenya ever won in their useless life both male and female leagues compare it to our super falcons only..

Useless country

TayserMahiri:
I agree sir. Was actually starting to fear this thread might turn out to be the worst thing for black people.

Its fun to take a jab at each other but then we should have limits. Let we not be like blind people.

Runalong333:
Nigerian companies control most of our oil. British farmers are planting flowers on the land you should be using to feed, you idiots are too oblivious to that because you are used to your suffering and humiliation.

Runalong333:
Nigeria leads in starvation ? Since when?. We don't starve to death, that is your position in Africa and the world . Uhuru is the sadist here, he is drinking your common wealth away while you kiberians starve daily

Runalong333:
You know nothing kiberawalker . All you know is being a bloody farm tool to the kenyettas and British farmers . You will die a humiliating death in that slum you were born in

Runalong333:
Stage a revolt to save your future generation from starving because of landlessness . Planting flowers for people in Dubai and England is not going to help you in any way , that money will go to kenyetta, his close allies and the white farmers , the common kiberian will die and be buried in a humiliating manner .

tlann:
Algeria had a long bloody war than you but we are good at our current level we are the largest non-resource economy in Africa Israel and Netherlands are much older than kenya

Runalong333:
Its shrinking yet we still remain the biggest economy in Africa, and you are still poor as the turkana . You elected a scammer who is oppressing you like his father did , his son will soon take his position too .

Dumb and docile idiots.

Runalong333:
Because like Kenya we have corruption and incompetent leaders, and don't forget we had a war and a long military rule . Why are you not like Israel and Netherlands?

Runalong333:
Being called poor by Western standards is better than starving . We don't die of food shortages while our arable land is used to farm flowers for white men who are not starving but looking for a way to get laid after a date . You are scammed . No wonder you are the only Africans who paid whites to leave you alone .

Runalong333:
Hahahaha better a decoy than a scammer whose family has oppressed millions since independence . Kenya is owned by the kenyettas , you might as well be a monarchy

Runalong333:
Here say? . We know for a fact that the kenyettas and their friends with the British colonizers own your land . Starvation will never leave your slums , it's your destiny . Continue fooling yourselves that we are the same.

Runalong333:
Those are few Nigerians, but the rest of you Kenyans don't own nothing . Only your cha'anga brewing buckets