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Oxtonguy:
Premium time are not ranker here they are news media,they inform on rank done by other notable ranker,i recently provided u a link ranking ui above un,u also provided another ranking placing un above ui,ignoring the africa best with different rendering,going to world best world university ranker ranks university of oxford as 1st,university of cape town 128th,university of ibadan 601st,and university of nairobi does not rank amoung the 1st 800,utilize ur senses please

Dude - you're the one who provided the link. So you provided me with the wrong link?
So you provided the premium times link knowing very well it's not a ranker but only discovered that when you realized that it places UoN ahead of UoI?

You're funny - you provide one ranking where UoI is ahead of UoN, I provided three where UoN is ahead of UoI yet for some reason you think I'm not utilizing my senses? lol....and now you provide me with a link claiming UI is ahead of UoN and now I've blown up your bubble by telling you that from YOUR OWN LINK UoN is actually ahead of UoI you're bringing in some other funny stories? It's really frustrating arguing with some of you Nigerian guys.

.....and please which is this best world university ranker and what criteria are you using to claim it's the best? If the link you provided me had place UoI ahead of UoN you'd also have claimed it's the world's best university ranker. Stop being a hypocrite.

Oxtonguy:
Bottow line 1 nigerian university rank among 800 universities in the world no kenyan university rank, is that so hard to absorb http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/190922-only-one-nigerian-university-ranked-among-worlds-top-800-universities.html

From your source, University of Nairobi (No. 4 in Africa) ranks ahead of University of Ibadan. You'll realize most rankings place UoN ahead of UoI


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/186292-nigeria-has-only-one-university-in-africas-top-10-list-south-africa-has-6.html

obaaderemi:
CLAP,CLAP,CLAP,CLAP.U DESERVE UR MEDAL

Sure......I'm just waiting for your brain transplant. I don't want a dimwit handing me the medal.

I like the way lame Nigerians with nothing more to say are resorting to ad-hominem posts now lol. After realizing nobody is swallowing their ridiculous assertions now they want to pretend to be gentlemen wondering why other people can't be gentlemen - a stupid trick to avoid being beaten.

obaaderemi:
GIVE URSELF ANOTHER ROUND OF APPLAUSE AND A MEDAL.

Not before you get a brain transplant

Boyedex:
Your analogy is as lame as yourself. Go ahead and jump a cliff over it. And Please I stopped staying in mentions since, don't spam mine with your silliness

Yet you can't stop responding to me? Do you realize your responses to me have no point other than name calling and insulting? Go figure - I pity you my friend, you lack knowledge, you have poor comprehensive skills, you're dumb yet you feel like you're too smart to engage people. lol, so pathetic

Oxtonguy:
Your link is a pseudo,the link I provided is based mainly on universities issue around the world when icu speaks it's as unbiased as snow and no universities ranked among 800 universities in Kenya in the world when Nigeria ranked who is deceiving who

ICU is just a ranker like any other. You merely choose to 'believe in it more' because it ranked some Nigerian universities more favorably. Still though, Kenya beats Nigeria even if we consider ICU - 7 universities for 45 million people - that's 6.4 million people per university in the top ten. Mean Nigeria has 15 universities in the top 100 - 12 million people per university in the top 100.

Let me give you another source that's globally renown and respected than icu by far - Times Higher Education places one Kenyan university in Africa's top ten and NO Nigerian university in the top ten. Enjoy.....


https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/best-universities-in-africa-2016

iblawi:
This is another proof that Kenyans are not information literate. 4icu is meant for ranking universities across the world. Can you please tell us what social capital gateway is?

It is for ranking universities dude. lol - who told you 4icu is the only one ranking universities? We also have Webometrics that had 1 kenyan university in the top ten (no Nigerian) and several in the top 100. See for yourself.

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Ranking_africa

Boyedex:
This Nairobiweakling dude is simply straw clutching. Yes I said Muthaiga has apartments, a term I used to vaguely refer to residences. Now he's gonna knock his head on a stone because of that all day. They can bring up the least costly in their most expensive places, yet can't bring up the highest in same place, or at least something to at least match what I posted. Who doesn't know that it will cost more to build an edifice of equal facilities in a city like New York compared to Lagos simply as a result of being a more expensive and more developed terrain. Dude is perpetually moronic

It is one thing when you use a term "vaguely to make a point" but another thing when you claim you have sooo much knowledge in a given field that you brush down everything everyone else has to say yet make very ridiculous assertions in the same topic. For instance - when someone who claims to know Nigeria so well that he's not even willing to learn or listen to what other Nigerians say claims that Murtala Mohammed Airport is in Abuja what would you say of him? He's stupid and ignorant.

[quote author=obaaderemi post=51827145][/quote]1. Learn how to quote

2. You don't have points - you want someone who will agree with your idiocy and not facts. You're not giving up on me, you're giving up on your stupidity.

Oxtonguy:
Kenyans and pseudo claims why will Nigerian go to Kenya to study except if such person can't meet up with the requirements here and Kenya universities can never match those in Nigeria,of the 100 top universities in Africa only six Kenya university ranked when we have nineteen from Nigeria

Check it out
www.4icu.org/top-universities-africa-html

From your link I see 7 kenyan universities (for a population of 45M) and 15 Nigerian universities(for a population of 180M). A serious statistician will tell you in such a case Kenya is way ahead......and this is even considering you chose a ranking where Nigeria performs it's best and Kenya it's worst. Check out this other ranking for instance that has 7 Kenyan universities in the top 100 vis a vis only 6 Nigerian universities.

http://www.socialcapitalgateway.org/content/ranking/top-100-universities-and-colleges-africa

obaaderemi:
Do the right thing.Ignore that man.pls,let him revel in his blind ignorance and infantile attitude.They know little of nigeria

Lol......you guys have no points yet you want everyone to believe Nigeria is the greatest country. When someone corners you you call them infantile and ignorant yet you're the most ignorant and infantile people here. Your friend claimed to know Muthaiga so much that he understands the prices of houses in Muthaiga yet went ahead and talked of apartments in Muthaiga. I told him there are no apartments in Muthaiga and the cheapest house in Muthaiga to rent is $2000 per month and he says I can choose to believe Nigeria is way ahead of Kenya or remain stupid and ignorant. Now tell me who is ignorant between two of us? Calling someone who's clearly smarter than you ignorant doesn't erase your ignorance. See, Pavore, a Nigerian who lives in Nairobi has even told him exactly what I've been telling him but he's adamant that I agree Nigeria is better or remain stupid and ignorant. That's the most childish person one can engage - you guys can continue believing your delusions.

Boyedex:
There are exclusively rich Nigerians that will easily pay 3 billion naira monthly for rent. Anybody's ignorance won't negate this. You could argue that there is a big disparity between the rich and poor in the country. That's a good argument. But to say their aren't people who can afford that worth of property in a country like Nigeria is just crude

Many people can pay 3 billion Naira for rent but nobody would pay 3 billion Naira rent for a house that's worth 80,000 Naira. Stop being dumb.

iblawi:
How many times do we have to prove we are far ahead of you in Education, ICT, beautiful cities, industrialization, infrastructure, agriculture, security, technology, sport, entertainment etc.

We are clearly not playing in the same league as we are far ahead of you.

See who is talking about media freedom, human rights, etc. You must be drunk.

Prove? Are you listening to your self? Please tell me how you proved your education is better than ours for instance. Then go to sports - lol.

Boyedex:
Got no time for a dumbbell. It's not my job to force sense in your skull. Looks like you are perpetually locked in your uncouthness and callowness. When a fact is slammed on your face, you play the disbelief card. which often just pass of as being dumb. Believe whatever you wanna man. I'm just gonna ignore you henceforth, there are saner people to reply on here.

It's pretty amusing when a stupid person says he has no time for a supposedly stupid person. lol. You and facts are like water and oil. You don't mix.....and I don't enjoy responding to you either.

highheybee:
And you also need not to hurl words to prove a point....that has been an iasue since the beginning of this thread....
I love Africa...and 2 things I envy about SA is schooling and there bombastic 45kmegawatts power generation while Kenya is about their almost 24/7 electricity and low poverty rate.....

But all the way without those...nothing else...I'm a naija...always will be a naija....no need to fight bro

The wise is not the one that wins the argument but one that avoids it

Perhaps if you were not hypocritical you would have noticed I insulted him because he insulted me. You can't be hypocritical and claim to be wise.

PS - everybody loves and should love their country, nobody is asking you not to love Nigeria but you don't have to live in delusions just because you love your country.

Boyedex:
You are so slow I would rather not insult you back for it. You are very low bro.
Prove me wrong that there are no residential places in Muthaiga.
500000 Kenya shillings, the highest I saw on your link, is just 5000dollars. Go and beat the other post I gave the other man.
In fact, I think arguing with you will give me undue stress I obviously don't deserve. Swerve bro.

I'm sorry but do you have anything between your ears bro? Those prices are the minimum in this estates. Learn how to read my friend. You can't be both ignorant and poor in comprehension.

Boyedex:
Lmao. And you think there can ever be a match for a place like this in Kenya? This is an apartment in Banana. Just 3 bedroom. It costs a whooping 3 billion naira monthly!

Dude......? This is the reason no one takes Nigeria's GDP figures seriously - 120M per annum for that piece of crap? Lol, who are you fooling dude? No one would BUY that for 2℅ of that amount. lol.

iblawi:
Yes, areas like tea, coffee and milk production.

....and quality of life, Electricity supply, ICT, Education, beauty of cities, quality of infrastructure, HDI, life expectancy, Retail Industry, Ease of doing business, human rights, Media freedom etc etc.

Pavore9:
http://mobile.property24.co.ke/5-bedroom-townhouse-to-rent-in-karen-104508820
That is in Karen, N14m monthly rent!

Thank you

Boyedex:
Share a link please and shoot yourself on the foot as usual.


Duh, people live in Muthaiga and that's the rental cost I quoted, just about $3000. No rental space costs $10000
monthly in Kenya, haven't heard of, or except you prove me wrong with a link at least. I could take a bow.


And the answer to your real surprise is bad governance. That has been overemphasized on this thread. So I understand if you can't wrap your head round the fact that after all these, Kenya is still too small a country to compare to Nigeria.

You're an idiot. So you've heard of everything that happens in Kenya? Somebody who thinks there are apartments in Muthaiga wants to claim they know much about Kenya? lol......you're ignorant about your own country, what can you say about Kenya? And what has size got to do with it? We are talking about quality my Friend not size and your Nigerian friend Pavore who lives in Nairobi has already told you Nairobi has better quality real estate than Lagos.

Check out the minimum rent per month in Nairobi's high end estates. (1$ = KES 100. Do your conversions and come back)

http://venasnews.com/most-expensive-estates-in-nairobi-you-should-not-look-for-houses-here-if-you-are-earning-less-than-ksh100-000-per-month/

Boyedex:
First of, how did you get the perfect equivalent of Magodo in Nairobi to arrive at this? It will be hard to judge an equivalent knowing that values of an apartment with exact same facilities vary from location to location. That brings me to why you should compare the extremes in both situations, that is, the best of Nairobi and the best of Lagos. And please, you can get an apartment of $3000 in Muthaiga, not 5k as the least cost that you quoted. Like I said earlier, apartments in Eko Atlantic cost 10000 monthly. They were fully bought before it's completion. That makes a big business statement. These things are not rocket science.

There are no apartments in Muthaiga, lol. See how you keep talking about things you don't understand for the sake of it.

Pavore9:
We no even dare go to neighbourhoods like Karen, Runda, Muthaiga etc where rents are $5000 and above. Ask any other Nigerian living in Nairobi going by the present exchange rate which between Lagos and Nairobi where the rent in a good neighborhood is lesser.

If you are paying N800,000 annually for a 3 bedroom flat at Magodo Estate that is equal to 170,000 Kenyan shillings going by today's exchange rate between the Naira and Shillings. That 170,000 Kenyan shillings will cover only 4 months rent of similar neighborhood in Nairobi!

Born and raised in Lagos, work and live in Nairobi....Forget the pictures being posted l know the realities of both cities!

Thank you my friend.

Boyedex:
That is not even to mention the newly completed and fully bought eko pearl towers with rent STARTING from $10000 per month! You can always verify my claims.


Well, I think I understand the surprise of these Kenyans, and maybe other Africans. "How come Nigeria without 24hrs power supply is still the continents largest economy? What will then happen when they eventually get it right with power?" These and many other questions, they ask. I'd be totally shocked too if I were in their shoes.

Nope - our real surprise is "How come the country with the largest oil deposits on the continent, one of the largest land suitable for Agriculture, one of the largest hyro-power potential and by far the largest human resource can't provide very basic needs for its citizens.

Boyedex:
There are properties that cost $5000 per month in Lagos.

There are properties that cost $10000 per month in Nairobi

Pavore9:
The rent in an upscale neighborhood of Nairobi is higher than the ones in an upscale neighbourhood of Lagos. Shebi l follow go house hunting with a Ghanian couple who just moved over. A 4 bedroom masionette is renting $2,140 monthly plus a $200 monthly service charge and sharing compound with 7 other units!

Away from upscale neighbourhoods, a middle class neighborhood one can get a bedsitter (a room and an ensuite kitchen and toilet/shower) for between $90-$100 monthly whereas that can get me a spacious 2 bedroom flat in Anthony Village, Lagos!

Educate him brother

More sources for our ignorant brother who things Nigeria got a thing on Kenya in real estate.

http://www.africatopsuccess.com/en/2015/04/13/invest-in-real-estate-business-the-top-5-cities-in-africa/

Boyedex:
In value, I can boldly say yes. Rental in Lagos and Abuja are some of the costliests in Africa. You can start by giving the costliest place in Kenya in dollar terms. That for Nigeria has already been given here

Nairobi and Mombasa have ranked among the top ten most vibrant cities IN THE WORLD in real estate my friend. Do your research well. Muthaiga is more expensive than ANY residential area in Nigeria and Upper Hill is more expensive than ANY commercial area in Nigeria. I can keep giving you sources all day all night. See this one here too...

https://venturesafrica.com/five-african-countries-that-offer-the-greatest-investment-opportunities-in-real-estate/

Boyedex:
In value, I can boldly say yes. Rental in Lagos and Abuja are some of the costliests in Africa. You can start by giving the costliest place in Kenya in dollar terms. That for Nigeria has already been given here

You must be out of your mind.

http://luxafrique.net/top-5-cities-invest-real-estate-africa/

iblawi:
Every company in Nigeria have an alternative source if power. We haven't even posted major companies and you guys are already shaking.

Kenya is far away from Nigeria.

That doesn't change the fact that Nigeria's electric supply is shitty. FYI all companies have an alternative electricity supply - it's only that while in most countries the alternative is rarely used, in Nigeria it is used 80℅ of the time.

kikuyu1:
Journalism. Was a freelancer for a while quit when I realised two things:
most people believe the exact opposite of the truth
they won't thank you when told the truth.
That's why I find this thread so fascinating! We all believed Naij GDP per capita was wayyy above ours. I've followed this thread from the start and these guys are only slightly above us on the whole using the real exchange rate.
I think they know it deep down which explains the pathological delusion. I swear they sound like Somalis! You can practically see them frothing,waving their baby fists and flexing their chicken muscles.
Anyway I've tried many things since leaving journalism in 02 and am now in aquaculture. I still remain a truth seeker at heart ; a searcher after the actual - which explains my presence here.

Somalis indeed (and South Sudanese too). Normally it's the least advanced people who have a superiority complex.

Oxtonguy:
Initaited by the state government in collaboration with indigenous private investors

Funny if it was Kenya you would be shouting how we are owned by foreigners irrespective of who initiated it or made the right environment for it. It's still owned by foreigners.