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forgiveness:
The first skyscraper in Ibadan was built in 1965 with the height of 105 meters while the first and second skyscrapers in Nairob were built in 1973 and 1974 with the height of 105 meters and 103 meters respectively. Nairobi waited until 2000 before it add another skyscraper Times Tower, with the height of 140 meters.

Nairobi only had two as at 2000 while Ibadan had only one. Just one more than Ibadan. I waa there, right but Nairobi never had a dozen as at 80s and even now.

The year 2000 - Nairobi.

1. Times Tower - 140m
2. Teleposta Tower - 120m
3. KICC - 105m
4. NSSF - 103m

Current (complete and topped out buildings)
1. Britam tower - 200m
2. UAP tower - 163m
3. Times Tower - 140m
4. Prism tower - 133m
5. LeMac Tower - 126m
6. Teleposta tower - 120m
7. KICC - 105m
8. NSSF Building - 103m
9. I&M Building - 100m
10. KCB Tower - 100m

Current (complete, topped out and under construction)
1. Jabavu/Hass Tower 1 - 300m
2. Jabavu/Hass Tower 2 - 201m
3. Britam Tower - 200m
4. Hazina Tower - 180m
5. Avic Office Tower - 176m
6. UAP Tower - 163m
7. Avic Hotel tower - 141m
8. Times Tower - 140m
9. Prism Tower - 133m
10. LeMac Tower 126m
11. Parliament Tower - 120m
12. Teleposta Tower - 120m
13. KICC - 105m
14. Upperhill Chambers - 104m
15. NSSF Building 103m
16. I&M Building - 100m
17. KCB Tower - 100m


Meanwhile Ibadan has remained with one skyscraper since 1965 and you dare compare it with Nairobi. Are you mad?

Odunayaw:
Nigeria is not competing with anybody
rather its Kenyans trying to look for relevance
I just don't get the basis of this thread anymore

It was started by a Nigerian FYI. Now you can see who's seeking relevance.

highheybee:
Hmmmm...do you know that they call family planning...the higher the number of your Children the harder it is to cater for them....we gained independence in 60 and you got yours 63 and you saying thrash that we should be four times developed than you are...give a family of four 5$ and a family of twenty the same amount,obviously the four will live better but in this case it's the other way round...we have developed industrially way more than you.... people should really think before posting stuffs...four times my foot....you talking about malls...so from your thinking...China should be over 20times developed than south Korea...or what are you spitting

Are some people for real

Your point holds water only in a case where the provider is one person. For instance if you are a father, taking care of 3 children is easier than ten. But we are talking about countries - Kenya and Nigeria have similar family sizes. As much as Kenya may have fewer dependents, it also has fewer providers. Look at it this way - a family of five where one is a provider and four dependents may be better than a family of 20 with 1 provider and 19 dependents but it is no different from a family of 20 with 4 providers and 16 dependents. I hope you understand what I mean.

forgiveness:
You are very funny ooooooo. I thought you would have shown me a building with its actual height but you are showing me a cleared area with no structure and a render, after considering what you said below.




I also have a photo of the render of the tallest building in Africa and website to make enquires. It is 308 meters with 74 stories.

http://www.centenarycity.com/africa-tower.html




The first picture shows that the buildings you are talking about are still planned and others are still under constructions. The second picture used colors to indicate the stages of a building.

The third building is the render of the tallest building in Africa.

Dude, Hass tower is actually UNDER construction. Your Abuja tower is simply a proposal more like The One Tower in Nairobi. Many proposed structures actually never get built. I asked for an actual structure under construction. I showed you the foundation excavation of Hass Tower. Please don't just argue for the sake of arguing - there are numerous proposed mega towers in Nairobi but I won't talk about them because they're mere proposals. Again, your proposed structures still is not as tall as Hass towers. See, the first time you gave me Eko Atlantic (no specific building). I told you to give me a specific building since I know the tallest building under construction in Eko is 135m. Now you giving me a proposal that is not under construction.

Can you show me the construction site of that render buddy? I follow structures under construction very well and there's no such tower under construction in Abuja.

The WTC in Abuja at 37 floors may rise to over 100m but they won't even beat the current tallest structures in Nairobi so they don't even prove your point that Nigeria has taller buildings than Kenya. Meanwhile the third picture is a NON EXISTENT building. It was just a proposal on paper and that's all. If we were all to count proposals on papers Nairobi would be having buildings over 500m.

forgiveness:
Please, show me the pictures of Jabava/Hass tower under constructions with their heights.

Jabavu/Hass towers

Tower 1 - 66 floors, 300m
Tower 2 - 40 floors 201m

Second photo is the render of the building. The first photo is the foundation of the building under construction in Upper Hill, Nairobi.

forgiveness:
Hehehehe! You can say that again. We have been fed with lies.

Imagine all African flooding to Europe, Asia and America because of that for holiday.

What stops Nigerian to visit Nairobi for holiday or Kenyans from visiting Calabar for holiday?

We just go to Europe to waste money.

I will convince one of my Aunties to try Nairobi for holiday instead of wasting money to America and London every year.

Make Kenyans self promote us ooooooo.

Thank you. i have been to Lagos briefly but I'll make time and money to visit Calabar, Enugu and Abuja too. We need to promote ourselves.

forgiveness:
I only saw Nairobi with Skyscrapers but that can't be said of other cities but in Nigeria we have three cities with Skyscrapers.

Any projects handled by private investors are sure banks. This one is already under construction.

If you go by that then the ones under constructions in Nairobi will not be counted.

I don't think I am ignorant about some cities in Africa but I don't know much about East Africa.


http://www.nigeriansreport.com/2015/12/infrastructure-work-progresses-in-abuja.html?m=1

Picture of skyscrapers in Abuja.

Mombasa has more skyscrapers than Abuja. Nakuru can't support skyscrapers because it is right in the middle of the Great Rift valley and sits on faultlines. Kisumu and Eldoret are developing some skyscrapers.

Oxtonguy:
Still Abuja

Nice stadium.

forgiveness:
If you are talking about both then we are building more skyscrapers than Kenya in Abuja and Lagos, and we are building the tallest in Africa.

http://nigeriarealestatehub.com/5-mega-construction-projects-to-look-out-for-in-2016.html/

The picture below is the master plan for Abuja and constructions have already started.

You're giving me planned cities and claiming them to be the tallest buildings under construction in Africa? Lol, please post me the actual building and it's height. The tallest building under construction in Africa is Jabavu/Hass tower in Nairobi at 300m. The tallest in Eko Atlantic under construction is only 135m. Please post me that building under construction in Nigeria that is higher than 300m - and please I don't want tired masterplans, I want an actual building with its height.

Henrydone:
Mombasa is the 2nd top cities in kenya,what if we start posing abuja

Have you been following the thread? Your friends have already flooded this thread with photos of Abuja.

Henrydone:
What a foolish point you make forgiveness is wrong in that regard apapa port is second to Cape Town port in Africa go read a book........

You're the most uniformed person on this thread. FYI Cape Town is not Africa's busiest port, Richard's bay (near Durban) is. You need the read-a-book advice more.

Bifwoli:
Lol, this is truly laughable .Nigerian malls dominated by South African retail chains of Shoprite,Cash "N" Carry and Mr Price- that tells you how Nigeria is underdeveloped in this industry.

And please DON"T TRY TO FOOL US ,the last picture there is actually a mall in Indonesia called Paragon Mall.We've caught lying about Bonny island,lying about generating 10k meagwatts and now this- it shows how constantly lying and truly desperate you folks are.

.....and he's the same guy that keeps saying how Nigerians love the truth. Lol.

forgiveness:
You might be right that I was shocked beyond repair that Kenya is not only about Nairobi and that there are other well planned and beautiful cities like Mombasa and Nakuru but truly truly we have a lot of developed cities.

It has become a competition to make sure a city is better than the others.

I have been to Duoala, Yaounde, Lome, Addisa baba (I wasn't impressed then), Cotonue and Accra. I can assuredly tell you that Lagos and Abuja are better than most of these cities.

They have one or two good cities and that's all though I don't know much about Ethiopia's cities.

Accra is beautiful and well organized but Lagos and Abuja are more developed than it.

We have good cities in the Northern part of Nigeria too.

We have well planned cities like Abuja, Calabar, Kaduna, Port Harcourt and Enugu. Although, I don't know much about the Northern part but I can assure you that they have planned cities too.


But when it comes to developed cities we have more than Kenya. These are the most developed cities arranged according to development. Though some Nigerians may not agree but it's just my own opinion. But the top 10 are assuredly developed. Mombasa may even be competiting with Port Harcourt.

1, Lagos
2, Abuja
3, Port Harcourt
4, Ibadan
5, Kano
6, Enugu
7, Calabar
8, Kaduna
9, Owerri
10, Uyo
11, Jos
12, Benin
Etcetera

I agree with you that you have more cities. But you should realize that's just because you have four times our population. In fact you should be having four times the number of cities we have (which is not the case) to be on the same level. See, India also has more cities than Germany - can you say India is more developed than Germany? Nigeria has more cities but Kenyan cities are better, more developed with better social amenities than Nigeria's. Cities like Kano are just big but no one (outside Kenya and Nigeria) would choose to live in Kano over Eldoret - trust me. Eldoret will offer him better quality services than Kano.

Oxtonguy:
See how Eko Atlantic will look after completion

Please post us existing things - I could post you several such plans from any African country.

Jay254:
Make Google your friend stop using one site to suit your pride.. We have a hundred others online they can help..Beautiful cities in Africa.. Best cities to leave in Africa.. Best cities for experts in Africa..or even try worst cities to leave in Africa,and be the judge

Thank you.....he's posted that link a million times when there are thousands of other sources placing Nairobi ahead of Lagos in beauty, quality of life, planning, tourism, good place to live etc.

forgiveness:
The tallest buildings in Nairobi as at now 200 meters and 163 meters and they were just completed in 2016 and 2015 while Lagos tallest is160 meters and it was the 3rd tallest building in Africa. So, where did you get 8th tallest in Nairobi?

Below are the tallest building in Lagos which are over 100 meters. Most of them have been completed except Azuri which are still under construction.

We also have Cooperate towers 2 which is 37 stories and it is now under construction and with many more coming up.

The second picture is Eko pearl towers and third picture is Eko Towers.

I am talking of both complete and under construction buildings for both cities. Lagos' tallest would be No. 8 in Nairobi.

Oxtonguy:
Eko pearl located in Eko Atlantic recently completed now taller than UAP tower Nairobi

EKO PEARL TOWERS

Dude, Eko Pearl tower is only 135m while UAP is 163m tall. Get your facts right.

forgiveness:
Let me now do the needful for skyscrapers in Lagos. You are listing skyscrapers that are still under construction. Ok na.


Building Height Floors Completed City
NECOM House[1] 160 m (520 ft) 32

Union Bank Building[2] 124 m (407 ft) 28

Ministry of Communication Building[5] 109 m (358 ft)

InterContinental Lagos[7] 105 m (344 ft) 22

Independence House 103 m (338 ft) 23

CBN Lagos[9][10] 100 m (330 ft) 19

Great Nigeria House
[11] 95 m (312 ft) 22 ?? Lagos


But wait ooooooo. Where is your source to back up your claims?

These are your skyscrapers. You only have 6 above 100 meters. How dem come grow overnight? Abi your skyscrapers dey grow?



Buildings completed as of April, 2015
No. Building Height Floors Completed Image
1. UAP Tower 163 m (535 ft) 33 2015

2. Times Tower[3] 140 m (460 ft) 38 2000

3. Teleposta Towers
[4] 120 m (390 ft) 27 2000

4. Kenyatta International Conference Centre[5] 105 m (344 ft) 28 1974

5. NSSF Building
[6] 103 m (338 ft) 28 1990s

6. Kenya Commercial Bank Plaza 100 m (330 ft) 24 2013
7. I&M Bank Tower[7] 99.1 m (325 ft) 18 2001

8. Nyayo House
[8] 84 m (276 ft) 27 1982

9. Cooperative Bank House
[9] 83 m (272 ft) 25 1981

10. Hazina Towers 81 m (266 ft) 24 -

11. National Bank House 82 m (269 ft) 21 1976

12. Rahimtulla Tower 80 m (260 ft) 18 1999

13. Anniversary Towers 80 m (260 ft) 26 1992

14. Lonrho House 80 m (260 ft) 22 1990

15. Reinsurance Plaza (Office)[77 m (253 ft) 20 1982
16. AmBank House 75 m (246 ft) 22 -

17. Delta Corner Tower A (Hotel)75 m (246 ft) 21 2012
18. Delta Corner Tower B
(Office) 75 m (246 ft) 21 2012
19. Uchumi House
(Office)[19] 71 m (233 ft) 21 1972
20. ICEA Building
[20] 69.9 m (229 ft) 19 1981

21. View Park Towers
[21] 68 m (223 ft) 20 -
22. International House
[22] 65.53 m (215.0 ft) 17 1971

Wikipedia is not a credible source FYI. And even going by your list Nairobi still has more skyscrapers than Lagos.

forgiveness:
Nigeria is building 1,000 kilometers of Standard gauge from Lagos to Kano and another 1,402 kilometers Standard gauge from Lagos to Calabar.

Nigeria is building 5 seaports

Nigeria is restructuring 4 international airports.

Nigeria is building news dams

Lagos is building Mono rails

Lagos is building Eko Atlantic city on a sand filled sea. May skyscrapers are going up there.

Can you please list Kenya's infrastructures projects?

Kenya is building over 2000km of standard gauge railway - From Mombasa through Nairobi to Malaba then from Nairobi to the Ethiopian border. The section from Mombasa to Nairobi is already done they are working on the Nairobi-Naivasha section..

Kenya is building taller skyscrapers than Nigeria including what will be Africa's tallest skyscraper - Jabavu tower.

Kenya already has 4 international airports with 4 more planned.

Kenya is also building new dams.

Kenya has built the largest geothermal plant in Africa.

Kenya has built wind power plants in Ngong with more under construction in Turkana and is slated to have the largest wind power plants in Africa.

Kenya is building the LAPSSET project which includes Africa's biggest port in Lamu with a network of pipelines and Rail lines from it to all our neighbors. and several cities.

forgiveness:
Two roads, two bridges and a train.

Ibadan has all of the above. I need to know more.

Good infrastructure is not just about bridges and trains. It is about the whole city and how suitable it is to live. One city may have several interchanges, Bridges, overpasses etc but most of its roads have potholes and open sewages everywhere.Another city may be simple with no grand roads and trains but all roads are smooth and well marked with a good sewerage system. Which city would you say has better infrastructure.

forgiveness:
It is because Nairobi is the capital of Kenya while Lagos is not.

People would still rate Nairobi ahead of Abuja - and being the capital doesn't miraculously make a city more developed btw. In SA Jo'burg is the most developed and not a capital city.

forgiveness:
Highrise is determined by the numbers of stories of a building. The standard is 12 stories and I think Lagos has more than Nairobi.

Good to know Nairobi is building the tallest in Africa.

It's not the number of floors. It is the height in meters and Nairobi has more skyscrapers than Lagos. FYI Lagos' tallest building NECOM tower will only be the 8th tallest in Nairobi.

forgiveness:
You are right on one side but also wrong on the other side.

Who doesn't know Luxembourg? Who doesn't know London, Cape Town, Paris, Lagos, Abuja, Calabar, New York etcetera?

A city is known for good reasons or bad reasons. In this case the cities I listed are known for good reasons.

When it comes to Skyscrapercity, I frequently visit that site and I think Nigeria has more skyscraper projects than Kenya.

You may prove me wrong.

Luxembourg is not as known as Syria. That's my point. And no, Nigeria doesn't have more infrastructure projects than Kenya, maybe you only visit Nigeria's side of SSC. Visit Kenya's too.

forgiveness:
I think Ibadan is still better than Nakuru in terms of infrastructures.

What are the infrastructures Nakuru has that Ibadan doesn't have?

Which are these infrastructure you keep talking of? What is in Ibadan that's not in Nakuru? From Google maps Ibadan is just rusty roof and dusty roads. Meanwhile Nakuru has no unpaved roads. In terms of infrastructure and good roads and cleanliness Nakuru even beats Nairobi. You'll never find potholes in Nakuru.

forgiveness:
Is that the only picture of Ibadan you have seen?

I don't think Nakuru will beat Ibadan because I think Ibadan has more infrastructures than Nakuru.

Just tell me what Nakuru has and Ibadan don't have.

I wish I could know more about the infrastructures of Nakuru. Tomorrow I will post some pictures of Ibadan.

The problem is in Ibadan you have to select the nicest places to get a good photo, in Nakuru I could drop you anywhere in the city and you would take a beautiful photo from there. Nakuru is clean with nice roads in all neighborhoods, good hotels, a national park nearby, a lake and it's beautiful. Nakuru also has no slums.

forgiveness:
No 1, you may be right if Kenya has continuous power supply.

2, Nigeria port is the 4th busiest and it is meant for only Nigerians while Kenya is the second busiest because it is used by four countries. Note; we have many ports and we are building 4 more ports.

3, you're right but we also have airlines privately owned by Nigerians and they ply Europe, Africa and America.

4, you are right, but we have two in top 20 Universities in Africa while Kenya has only one.

5, na God create dis one na, nobi Kenya na. I mean beaches. Please, give me a link to prove Kenya has one of the best hotels in Africa.

6, hmm! Lagos, Abuja, Calabar, Port Harcourt and Enugu are very beautiful cities. How many beautiful cities do you have? I will post pictures tomorrow. Nigeria has cities with highrise than Kenya.


7,

3. Kenya has several private airlines too - the airline Indian Kenya is generally more developed than in Nigeria.

4. False - Nigeria has only one university in the top twenty. University of Ibadan is number 19 and it does not always make it to top twenty.Sometimes Kenya's Kenyatta university and Strathmore university ranks ahead of Ibadan. See the list for yourself. http://www.webometrics.info/en/Ranking_africa

5. You must be high on something to even compare Nigeria's beaches and hotels to Kenya's - I mean, that's what Kenya is known for. Do your research well.

6. Nairobi, Mombasa, Nakuru, Kisumu, Eldoret - check them out and compare their beauty with those Nigerian cities.

7. I'm sorry but you seem uninformed on this. Lagos is nowhere close to Nairobi in terms of high-rises. Your tallest building is NECOM House at 160m only and you have less than 5 buildings over 100m. Check out Nairobi's buildings over 100m complete and under construction below.

1. Jabavu/Hass tower 1 - 66floors 300m (U/C)
2. Jabavu/Hass tower 2 - 46floors 201m (U/C)
3. Britam tower 33floors 200m (TO)
4. Hazina tower 38floors 180m (U/C)
5. Avic office tower 45floors 176m (UC)
6. UAP tower 33 floors 163m (complete)
7. Avic Hotel tower 40floors 141m (U/C)
8. Times Tower 33 floors 140m (complete)
9. Prism Tower 34floors 133m (TO)
10. Le'Mac Tower 24 floors 126m (TO)
11. Parliament Tower 27floors 120m (U/C)
12. Teleposta Tower 27floors 120m (complete)
13. KICC 28 floors 105m (complete)
14. Upper hill Chambers 104m (U/C)
15. NSSF building 28floors 103m (complete)
16. I&M tower 18floors 100m (complete)
17. KCB Bank tower 21floors 109m (complete)

Now please list me Lagos buildings over 100m before you say Lagos has more high-rises than Nairobi. Nairobi's competition in SSA in high-rises comes from Jo'burg Durban Luanda and Maybe Cape Town.

highheybee:
Facts
Apple will never compare itself with tecno
Nor will Samsung compares itself with OnePlus...it's the other way round
Because both tecno and OnePlus are trying to beat those guys and they still can't
That's why I only gave you links of Abuja and Lagos pictures Cox it's hell lol of a work for me posting pictures
If you really are better than Nigeria...you won't be showing us pictures of your most beautiful cities...it's a show of inferiority from someone that's trying to make a name for itself


Nnamdi Azikiwe library is the biggest in subharahan Africa

Practice what you preach

highheybee:
http://www.webometrics.info/en/Ranking_africa https://www.4icu.org/top-universities-africa/
Are you satisfied..

University of Nairobi still ahead of all Nigerian universities.

naijalander:
What I recall is proving to you how irrelevant Nakuru is to a great metropolis like Ibadan.

Nakuru is town, Ibadan is an entire city. Which was an empire until the early 1900s. Show some respect mehn.

A city that can't hold it up against 'a small town' as you call Nakuru.

highheybee:
We have 13 universities is Africa top 100 while you have only three via webometrics
While we also have 33 at 4icu while you have only 13 so go sleep
Na only Nairobi university is ahead of nigerian universities while four nigerian universities are ahead of Kenyatta

Please bring me the whole ranking mate. Stop spreading lies.

naijalander:
yup Chicago is cold and dead, Ibadan is the city of Legends. deal with it.

I have understood your problem now - you're ignorant and delusional with exaggerated patriotism.

naijalander:
What about this Standard article?

Nairobi: Kenyans Saturday woke up to a countrywide electricity blackout following a fault in Kenya Power’s main supply line. "This morning at 5.34am we experienced a technical hitch that led to tripping of our main supply line -Olkaria Nairobi 220KV line- consequently leading to a power outage in most parts of the country," said Kenya Power in a statement. Kenya Power in response to massive enquiries on its twitter handles said they were working to normalize operations as fast as they could. By 10.30am, electricity supply had been restored to some parts of the country. "We are glad to inform the public that power supply to the following areas has been restored: North Rift, west Kenya, South Nyanza, Kisii, Mt Kenya and parts of Central Rift,” said Kenya Power. Kenyans expressed their disappointment and inconveniences caused by the early morning outage, with some pointing at incompetencies at the power supplier.

Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000211015/nationwide-power-outage-hits-kenya

If a five hour blackout is reported in the news and newspapers that tells you how not normal it is. In Nigeria such is a very normal occurrence.