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typical ibo people, leave them alone

shymmex: But seriously, why do Igbo leaders turn every critique into tribal crap?

Anambra Governor vs El Rufai = The Governor turned it into Hausa/Fulani vs Igbo

Orji guy vs Tinubu = The coward wants to turn it into Yoruba vs Igbo...

These people are sissies and wussies!!!

I can see where the tribal warriors on NL got the trait from...

common knowledge

the reason i said and asked what i did is because i have a family member who owns a farm and herdsmen always go past his farm without any problem and has bought from them before, it has not stopped him from farming
you people are exaggerating things for how long will you blame herdsmen? herdsmen are human and humans can have agreements whenever you see a herdsman you do not have to create rumours that herdsmen raped women and then start killing every herdsman you can find

TechRev: Mr Namfav, you are doing a very bad job here. I have friends that are hausa/fulanis, i do business with them, the ones i have met are good people. But you are way out of point here, herds men dont prevent farmers from farming but they destroy what they would have produced after months of tilling. Its a pity you have to defend their behavior unreasonably. If they kept their cattle on the bush and not enter communities or farms i dont think there would be any problems of who killed who. Even if its your tribe that is wrong it wont hurt you to accept that they crossed the line. It is wrong to kill, but its also wrong to destroy a farmer's source of livelihood and show no apology or compensation. What baffles me is why your governors cant provide grazing fields for them. What are they even doing? Very very wrong. Enough said.

in his dreams

do herdsmen stop farmers from farming?

Toaskarity: sorry to say this but an imbe..cile is better than you your brain is oneside, you only thinks about
herdsmen herdsmen with out considering the farmers too! in their land!! chai!! you deserve a knock to get
your brain back to position.

this is a way to survive, i am confident that any herdsman will protect himself and his family but also when herdsmen are provoked and attacked it pains me but do not think that herdsmen are cowards, who are you to tell someone else to stop feeding himself? do herdsmen stop farmers from farming? do herdsmen have a negative impact on the agricultural sector of nigeria? on the contrary, herdsmen contribute a lot of positivity to the agricultural sector of nigeria, if you are threatening us that we are an endangered culture in nigeria then you are mistaken, go and ask the birom who thought killing innocent herdsmen will bring them security
they way you speak it is as if the herdsmen are provoking farmers, that is totally wrong, in the past we have heard of people accusing herdsmen of raping women to get people to attack herdsmen but when herdsmen retaliate and re act it is always herdsmen accused of being the side which started the conflict


[quote author=Sam_Ikenna]Good lord! The bolded is your lowest. I hate to see or hear that a life is snuffed out, and as an individual with blood flowing in my veins I think all our actions should be geared towards finding a lasting solution to the recurring bloodshed. To that end I say - Sir, your utterances are not in that direction. It seems you like to heap blames on others rather than being a bit objective. Show me anywhere in the civilized world where people fence their lands becuase of cattle rearing, you want Nigerians to bend over backwards for Fulani but would not want Fulani to do the same for their fellow country men. You want all lands in Nigeria to be fenced just to protect cattles and their herders, really? Do you know how much that is? Tell me which is cheaper - to fence all lands or to put all cattles in ranches?

It appears you're either indirectly pushing the herders to their graves (given the guaranteed face-off with farmers) or you're hoping the herders are strong enough to eventually commandeer all of Nigeria. Either way, the only outcome that'll see light at the end of the day is that Fulanis 'll lose everything including their lives - and that 'll be tragedy brought on a human race (Fulani) by some stubborn and implacable enablers - God forbid that you'll be one of those enablers. I wrote sometime ago that Fulani elders should take stock of both now and future, otherwise they'll wake up one day and see no Fulani in Nigeria.

Fighting farmers (poor farmers) in every section of this nation is a recipe for monumental catastrophe. Stop waiting for Nigeria to fix it and stop blaming others for not fencing their lands, if you think all lands (farmers lands) are "fair game" then land owners (farmers) are expected to think your cattles are equally that.

However, to my brothers in the south I have this to say - cattle rearing is a huge part of Nigerian economy that provides the much needed employment for millions of Nigerians both in the north and south, and its on this note that I call the south and Middle belt to find a way to help Fulanis keep this cattles coming. We need to let them know we enjoy and benefit from their activity and for that we'll help them establish a grazing zone (kind of ranch zone), however, its their job to first take the initiative and we'll join hands with them in good faith.[/quote]

what does sharia have anything to do with herdsmen being murdered in cold blood and are persecuted by the public when they defend themselves? what laws do you have wherever you reside, which do not allow someone from walking on nigeria soil?

Awake9ja: shut your gworo mouth. who do you want to have agrement with?

when you introduce shariah in your region do you agree with your minorities?
theme you guys are wicked.

do you support the victimization, persecution and genocide which we see today against herdsmen?

Crayola1: If namfav represents the average mentality of Fulani people then they truly are callous and cold hearted bunch. Only concerned with their needs others be damned. I will never agree with violence unless in the case of self defence but for you to side with only with the cattle herders speaks to your character.

Nigeria is hard for everyone, both farmer and the people who raise cattle. But to you its ok for someone's cows to eat months sometimes a year plus of work that someone toiled over because you want to basteedize the constitution to agree with your side is a very cold hearted thing. Are the farmers not worthy of pity too? Do you know what they intended to do with those crops? That was someone's grocery money, someone's school fees, someone's hospital expenses, someone's rent money...gone.

Instead of blaming all parties, its the farmers who are struggling just like everyone else to put food on the table that deserves your scorn.

Your attempt to twist the constitution is so pathetic in of itself. Going with your idiotic logic your house and the place you work are free game since no one technically owns property in Nigeria. So post up your address you we can all lay claim to your home, technically the land its on is not yours so by default the house is not yours either.

Your deliberate ignorance and unwillingness to admit that things are not ok with your people will end badly for them. If you think a man is going to let a damn cow chow down on his hard work, you are delusional. Be thankful that average Nigerians do not have access to serious firepower because this is where things are heading.

Instead of finding a solution you are here justifying madness and criminality.

why insult me?

oluchi jud: .. NamFart av u always bn ds stupid or are u making a special effort @ stupidity 2day?.. Someone shld come wrecking d house ur dad built n we'll all ask,''hu are u 2 decide wat happens 2 ur aws? Hu does d land where ur house was built belong 2?.. Isnt it nigeria's property?.. Bloody educated-dunce!!..mtcheeeew

how do you understand what a fence is?

DANILSA:

that is the problem, it is pure lies, women were not raped it was a lie to gather the men to attack herdsmen, it always happens, some people in ebonyi started the rumour that herdsmen were raping women a few months ago, the problem is that you will want to believe this lies
if you do not understand what i say then you are just ignorant, the question should be do your communities know the concept of fencing there farmland? surely if you value your land you will have secured it to prevent anyone from walking on it


[quote author=One_Naira]Dude you are sounding more and more confused. I don't even know where to being. Stop lying in something CLEARLY written in page 1. Nowhere did the article mention, they stole cattles from the fulani's. THE FULANI'S GRAZED IN THEIR CROPS, RAPED THEIR WOMEN WHICH PISSED OFF THE COMMUNITY THEREFORE THEY, THE COMMUNITY, CLASHED WITH THE FULANI WHICH COST THE DEATH OF FULANI HERDSMEN AND A COW AND INJURED SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES. That is what the paper said, don't f2king twist a story we all read.

Lastly, None of what you said makes sense. I honestly do not think you even believe the sh1t you are typing. Your people are INVADING their properties. They had EVERY right to attack you. It is not their fault and noone in their right mind would blame the enugu communities, the problem is YOUR PEOPLE's fault. They do this same thing every freaking community in Nigeria. You want respect, learn to respect your host.[/quote]

they spread rumours that herdsmen raped women and then the men gather to attack herdsmen, this people are not different to the people on nairaland who spread rumours about anything the dislike, they kill as much cattle and people as they can, that is not reported by the media, what is reported is when herdsmen retaliate and re act

[quote author=Chyz*]Cattle are killed and produce are destroyed, what is the difference? The herdsmen make a living off of the cattle and the farmers make a living off of the produce. People don't just come out and attack herdsmen but confront them first which lots of times the herdman just attacks them on them on the offense.[/quote]

you don't respect your so called land, how do you want anyone to respect it? so killing herdsmen and cattle of herdsmen will solve the problem, use your own brain, it will only make things very worse, your lands don't have laws don't lie to me, the law which is national is that everyone has freedom to move freely within the borders of the country, ibos go to the north to make a living for themselves, what the herdsmen are doing is exactly similar to what ibos are doing in the north, trying to make a living

ladylucky: wow ..those herdsmen must b carrying gold since everyone just wants to steal their cows. Am sorry but u r just sounding idiotic. So poor farmers shud use money theey dnt hv to erect fence bcuz of fulani herdsmen. Why shud everyone kip pampering u lot. When igbos go to north they respect ur land n ur sharia but do u fulani respect other pple culture? Even freedom of religion u dnt allow n now urr preaching one nigeria. For those saying they should build grazing areas for dem can d fulani. herdsman read? If he doesn't respect anoda mans farm n tubers of yam who says he will kip to grazing area?? Every land has laws. We obey ur sharia iin Zamfara they shud ppls respect our farmlaands in d east.

1. we do not need propaganda, we have a long history of are image being tained and we never resorted to use propaganda, certain people (they know who they are) live off this lies to gain international sympathy
2. sir what i say will not make the situation worse than it already is, are image in this country is being tainted by people who have there own agendas by creating false stories and lies about the whole situation, you would expect that anyone who values his livelihood will prevent it from being "taken away", it is impossible for yourselves to steal the cattle of a herdsman, even when you are hungry you will not do that not even when a herdsman is sleeping, but why is it easy for anyone to walk through your compounds day and night if they are your livelihoods? do you have any "respect" for that? it is like sleeping with your door wide open, tell your people to make there own priorities, if they want to be respected they have to respect themselves or at least approach people in a civilized manner and not resort to mob justice whenever they see herdsmen who want to survive just like them and as honestly as them, something which is private is usually one of the most secured, if you don't have fencing, if you don't have something like a buffer zone which can prepare yourself from anyone who may not know if it is your land, then you are open to people or cattle walking on it, when that happens blame yourselves



[quote author=One_Naira]1.) Stop blaming the media. People need to stop f2king blaming the media, just like ACN went and created a news-media, the fulani or any other Nigerian ethnic group have the right to create a news-industry for themselves, if they feel the Nigerian news-media is unfair to them. Also stop trying to change story, the death of the herdsmen and their cows came from a clash between them after the herdsmen allowed their cows to graze on their farm and also after they r.aped women from that same community.

2.) stop going into another man's property and allowing your cows to eat their livelihoods; if una do so, your people would be left alone in this country. Of course the farmers are pissed off and it is of no surprise they reacted, the herdsmen just stole from them and on top of that r.aped their women. WTF do you expect? It is not their job to make sure your people stay away from their property, it is your job. Dude seriously are you claiming your people have a hard time telling a farm from a natural forest. Really? Dude we all Africans, we know the difference. Let's stop pretending. Lastly, the same way Fulani's value their cows is the same way Igbos value their lands (except the weird master claiming the fulani's are doing with cows). You just don't go to another man's land and expect him to let you go scout free. You invaded his privacy and stole his property, he has every right to attack you. The Enugu people are very peaceful bunch but when you cross them, you'll understand the term "the quiet are the scariest". Stay away from private land, stay away from their property, graze in public property and they would leave you be. The problem isn't My community nor is is Enugu community, the problem is YOUR PEOPLE'S FAULT. Are you trying to imply every freaking community in Nigeria is ganging up on Fulani by repeating the same story in every state in that country. really dude? I honestly hope to God this is not your people think, if it is, except more clashes with many groups in Nigeria.[/quote]

many a times the farmers are the ones who attack first by killing cattle or attacking herdsmen in the pre text of protecting there land, in the past we've heard of agreements between herdsmen and hosts that have actually worked in many areas



[quote author=Chyz*]Which side is there to blame if not them? Are they no longer aware that if you go to an area where corn, melons,carrots, rice, tomatoes,onions,etc are going that that may be a person's farm. After they are confronted by the farmers and it is revealed that the produce destroyed belonged to them, why id there no compensation given to them by the herdsmen?

Why haven't your people in the core-north been demanding your governors to build ranches for the herdsmen? This will make things better for us all. Even the Hausas have problems with you people and are constant victims of your attacks its just that they come back and deal with you people very well. Your people are to blame.[/quote]

how can you afford land but you can not afford a fence? how will any herdsman know which plays is free to use and which place is not? you are blaming the wrong side


[quote author=Chyz*]So people don't own the land that they paid for but you fulani herdsmen own the cattle you walk around with? Come on.[/quote]

1. who is attacked every week? do you think people (herdsmen) just wake up and start attacking, the story here suggests that a herdsmen was killed, cows killed which may have enraged are people, any sane man will defend himself in that situation, but the media will only blame one side
2. at the end of the day we are talking about livelihoods, a businessman wants to survive, a herdsman is also trying to survive the legal way, if anyone is complaining that his land is being destroyed you find fences, herdsmen never pass through any place which is fenced, blame your own community, for provoking and not for being considerate


[quote author=One_Naira]Dude just do yourself a favor and just STFU. You really not making any sense at all. For one, your people are attacking individuals you host almost every single week. It does not surprise anyone anymore whenever we hear the death of a southerner up north so don't give us that bs story today. For two, none of your example correlates with what the article said. How is an Igbo businessman in the north who did everything by himself and neither trampled on other people's business (the host means of survival) similar to a fulani man in the east who invaded and trampled on their host mean's of survival (i.e: the farm)?
Dude just do yourself a favor and stop already. The more you write, the more confused you sound.[/quote]

sir you're a coward who can't fight a cat, who do you want to fight now? go an cry in a corner

Awake9ja: Mr.Hausa man look let me tell you the truth. how are we one nogeria when you can't allow me to sell my beer in my sokoto shop?
Pls don't stand and look, we are very happy because it's obvious you time is up and you guys are not ready to accept the changes.
have your ppl ever stand and look before? when your people kill the tiv's idoma's igbos's yorubas did you do a thing but when our army say relocate did you stand and look.

go ahead i told you before "whoever the God want to destroy he first make mad and deaf" fight Mr.Hausa man i even forget you also added kanuri in your fighting team.

i laugh at comments such as "broad shoulders, voice, height"

bennyraz: Laughing @ all d ladies in dis room cuz u all are liars the key to ur heart is money! Excess money! Fine dude, neat dude, tall dude without kudi isn't good for u.. Infact most of u wud prefer a monkey with plenty money.

to get a answer you have to ask yourself how many ibo businessmen we have in the north, if ibo businessmen are put off by the north to live there lives in the north, you will get a answer, don't create nonsense

Awake9ja: The core-north treat an igbo man with respect.
Don't make us the middle belt to open up your plans against the igbos. that will be for another day cuz we knew you gus well.
How well did you treath the igbo man in kano when cuting off his head cuz of koran page he knew nothing about?
How did you treath the yoruba woman well by killing her for what she knew notin about? tell us namfv
how well did you treath southern you corpers during buhari failed election?

You see! we in the belt knows you guys so well that when we begin to esplain it to our brothers in the south they will be shocked.
Infact to be honest the core-north treaths nobody fine they just bid time. but that time shall come on their disadvantage.

if you do know what is good for you you have to stay clear, do not get yourself involve, their is no mistakes to correct, your generation of ojukwu, nzeogwu was the strongest you have ever had and ever will, nothing to correct

Awake9ja: i told you before ,we are forever waiting for a fight between your hausa/fulani's vs igbos.

we are ready to correct our 1967 mistake, Gideon Orka tried to correct it but faild but i think your revenge will draw it closser.

Sometimes i thought about that 1967 war, i will end up accepting that igbos are strong, for fighting us all 2 and half years without weapon gosh.

This set of people you are asking you fulani people alone to fight them back. ok oooo
we are waiting Mr.namfav

it is not your own land you will find out soon, nigeria is protected by a constitution , if you can not allow people to use the land in nigeria why are we one country? you will find out my friend, we will not stand here and look at what is happening in nigeria, not only is it baseless but it is a genocide on are people

ladylucky: dis namfav must b a slowpoke. Which respect hv d northerners accorded to Enugu pple or igbo I hope ur not refering to d countless pogroms. My frnd shut it if u hv nothing to say if u guys try it with d igbos we go giv u back fire for fire una know say our head strong, not in our land. U r here defending cow when dat poor farmer will not b able to take care of his family for d year bcuz of ur uselesss cows or u think igbos abandon their kids like d illiterate fulanni. Dis one na small if u guys don't stick to d bush its back to Niger rep. I just pity d women raped by stinking, cattle sleeping fulani herdsmen. Why can't they wait To inherit 72 virgins in heaven. MmmmttttttcccceEwwwww

have you been to kwara for example, or abuja? and see how people co exist? you have your own agenda

Awake9ja: Mr.Hausa man tell us why it is difficult for your fulani kings to co-exist with other tribes?

the enugu man in ibadan lives in peace with yorubas,
the oyo man in enugu lives in peace with his host,

why is it that hausa/fulanis cant stay a month without fighting their host or make troubles?

it is funny when people ask such questions, but when it is a fulani, hausa or kanuri people call that normal, in all honesty, most people around those areas are hostile to people who they see as non indigene , being hostile to your guests is not sane because the man from enugu is treated with respect everywhere in the north

Sagytarius: Lecture us. Which sane human being will just see a fellow being and kill him and destroy his belongings with no just cause. If you have no better points to butress your argument, I am afraid it will be a waist of time arguing with you.

wait and see, it is funny now that you a celebrating a herdsmen was killed but we will see if it is funny tomorrow

Awake9ja: the death that usualy kill a dog first take away its sense of smelling.

you think this is 1967 when your ppl woo us all into a regretable war with igbos.
we are all waiting for a time like this to see a fight with your tribe and this igbos. we will correct our mistake once and for all.

Let them revenge.
can somebody told Elrufai so that he will go online to announce it. or buhari so that he will announce it in bbc hausa.

let the music play we are waiting ooooo, hausa/fulani hahaha hehehe oya naaa

that is not what happened, a herdsmen was killed, and 2 cow killed and you're talking about scattered compounds, maybe you have to respect someone else means to survive, you have every right to survive, the same for anyone else if you kill someone you won't get awards, as for damaged property, your communities have to learn to fence yourself and stop complaining

afam4eva: Listen to me and listen good. I'm not here to go into a centrifugal argument with you. No one will come into my compound and scatter it and expect me to give him an award. People should learn to respect people's property. Simple.

when you move from one house to another house

Sagytarius: Guy, your points are so baseless. And which houses are you talking about that can be moved?

don't change the subject, you're just becoming foolish now, in history their has never been a instance where a herdsmen have taken over someones land, property or farms, or holding anyone hostage, stop making up lies for your agenda

afam4eva: He's not hustling on someone's property is he? I guess i can enter your bedroom and sleep beside your wife and tell you that the constitution permits it.

i hope you are not saying that the road which you walk is private property

Reference: When you enter a farm that is tresspass because its private property. For the farmer that is his office. That is his workshop. When you destroy his crops, that is sabotage. Heck, even the government will pay compensation for that. Which laws give the fulani free ranging anywhere they like. National Assembly wake up now before another crises front is permanently opened.

you are wrong, when you move houses do you move without your possession or livelihoods?


[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Cows have no citizenship right. . . . unless you're talking about the chirpy fellow lol.[/quote]

someone from enugu trying to make a living elsewhere is no different a herdsmen trying to make a living in enugu, stop being stoopid

afam4eva: Why not start entering people's houses and quote to them the constitution. Your head will be seperated from your body.

where did you see "no farming there" ? are you stupid?

afam4eva: Where did you see farm there? Dude, go back to school.