₦airaland Forum

are you saying guarding a church is risking your life? in fact, you are warrior you said (ibo warrior), just 5 ibo guys to protect one church froom any strange movements is enough to save more than 50 people
man up and stop talking, you don't expect me to do the job for you, in fact if you did what honourable men would do we will not have this problem in nigeria

EzeUche: You this desert rat have mouth.

Why would I risk my life in the North, when I am from the East? I am glad your people are showing the world how much you all are animals.

people like ezeuche are not men enough to protect churches they want someone (america) else to do the work,
it is every able christian mans job to guard churches from any danger, don't come on nairaland and talk or wait for muslims to do that for you,
if it were vice versa i will protect every mosque in danger

those drones are working in afghanistan? tell us more, every drone, is a 100 thousand barrel of oil,
remember they are machines, so it also includes at least 5 innocent people getting killed

koruji: Here comes the drones and the F-15s!!!

to occupy what? to target against who? to round up every persom from chad? not knowing is a problem, doing something out of lack of knowledge will only escalate the casualties, maybe we should all work together and overthrow gej,
he's the problem

you admit that gej has a hand in it but you are angry when i mention him, as i said before, i will not be surprised if it not people like you who bomb churches
for political points and to intensify disintegration which some people want to see happen

torkaka: how predictable! you picked the one that implicates gej,ignored the one that has nothing to do with gej and northern muslims and made the two with northern muslim colouration look like saints!
NAMFAV YOU ARE ONE AND THE SAME WITH BOKO HARAM!!

actually sire, if you have proof of who these people are and not go randomly, i will support you,
but if you are talking about attacking innocent people because there muslim, you are my enemy too

torkaka: very funny! you want to have a field day roasting people unhindered?
christians fighting back has nothing to do with tolerance but everything to do with self defence!

the 4th one is most powerful, the first one is the least powerful, the 4th one uses the first one as a guise, the 3rd one is the least influential

torkaka: and as for the bombing issue, i have always believed that they are presently four sets of boko haram;
1. the islamic boko haram: muslim fanatics fired up by islamic scholars.
2.criminal boko haram: crooks who have taken advantage of the tag on boko haram to rob and throw bombs so as bokoharam will be blamed.
3.northern politicians bokoharam: politicians from the north trying to create the niger delta militants scenario to get back the presidency.
4. govt boko haram: sponsored by the presidents group for selfish reasons!

it is really amazing that you are talking about tolerance and patience, because you are the christian who is saying that christians have to attack every muslim and wipe out muslim communities,
first of all muslims don't insult jesus, or the bible, get in your thick head

torkaka: namfav
if i understood you well,what you are trying to say is that depending on the muslim i will be lynched or left to go! shows the tolerance level amongst muslim.
have you ever heard that christians in nigeria went on rampage because Jesus was insulted?

the quran says those who are the best amongst us, are the ones who fear GOD, be they muslim, jews or christans, remember an infidel is a christian term (latin), so let me know what that means in your bible?
why should you do that? if someone does that to christians, christians will not respond by handshakes, personally i know that means nothing, i follow the way of the prophet,
he was insulted, thrown stones at, most of the earlier followers were tortured,insulted etc. they did not retaliate via violence, it depends which type of muslim you come across,
some christians will also turn violent if you insult there faith, if someone insults your mother, you will probably get violent, people handle emotions differently

torkaka: @namfav
and what does your quran say about infidels or non believers?

if i should piss on the pages of the quran what will you as a devoted muslim do to me?

if i am caught making out in the mosque,what will a good muslim like you do to me?

if i call your holy prophet satan in front of a group of devoted muslims,what will be my faith?

if a christian kills someone, it is not your duty to preach to him what the bible says, if a muslim kills someone it is not mine either, i am just a spectator, powerless like anyone, gej is in office why shouldn't he take the blame? he knows the people who bomb, he said it himself, he knows the so called sponsors, they are his friends, his allies, he condones the bombing of churches, the quran does not support this, i'll give my hand if someone shows me where the quran says innocent people have to be bombed in there churches and the reward is "paradise and virgins"


[quote author=Bélla3]Na wa o. Am just amazed, why shud Gej take the blame of wat ur religion has caused? If you tink that is not the message ur quaran is passing across,then it is ur duty to preach it. Try telling all jihadist sympertizers and sponsors! @namfav[/quote]

+1

EzeUche: How do you defeat an enemy that has the support of the president?

The answer is that you CAN'T.

i said i will not be surprised if gej is paying people to bomb churches, because it will work in his favour, i have to ask yourself why does he leave the country while the country burns?
which president is so relaxed in such a situation?
only gej, ask yourself why, also you should know by now that we had reports of christians bombing churches, just recently a christian was arrested trying to bomb a church

torkaka: let me help you summarize all you have been saying;
gej is sponsoring the bombings politically.
christians are bombing each other to make the north look bad. NOT SO?

would you be surprised if gej pays people to bomb churches? or even if those close to gej do that? i will not be surprised, remember sylva said he knows the people who do the bombing and he will bring them to bayelsa. the quran does not promise people who kill innocent people paradise or virgins, unless you know the quran more than i

[quote author=Bélla3]Namfav
pls ansa me: chei Goodluck pays muslims or even christains to bomb churches and kill demselvs in the process. He also wrote the qu'ran and promised them paradise and virgins..![/quote]

i do not understand why some people can be so rude to someone else, astaghfirullah

alj harem: Na gode mallam namfav, nymaria should go hang themselves su tafi kashe kansu

agree

jude33084: It is the handwork of MASSOB

ibos?

what makes this story believable

you are welcome to nigeria with my blessings

damn

that is not what i said, you are making things up

torkaka: you pigs are unbelievable!!
you bomb our churches,when we react angrily you now claim(because of our anger) that these bombs are sponsored by us!
NAMFAV YOU ARE BOKOHARAM!!

just a few people looking for something to complain about

naijaking1: If you're not such a zealous religious propangadist you'll remember that just[b] last week the northern catholic bishops complained about the same thing: not being allowed free access for church building in the north. In fact the titles for the land where present churches stand today were issued in the pre-independence days[/b]. None has been issued since then. I lived in Kano, and know the city very well. Are you an agent of ignorance or an agent of confusion?

i will not be surprised at all, not entirely, but with some cases, if i consider the way you speak,
you sound like one of those people that will support something like attacking churches for a statement

torkaka: you shameless pig! you simply failed at your attempt to make it look like christians are bombing themselves and blaming abokis!
bombing people unaware is like stabbing a man in the back!

churches are not only confined to were christians leave, not far from were we have a house we have a mosque and a church in the same street with many christians owning houses in the area also,
learn to function properly and stop making up lies, in most places you go you will find at least a church within a km and yet we are so intolerant? think again

naijaking1: Why are christians forced to locate all their churches in the small area of Sabon gari? In Kano, if you live in Hotoro, Narbawa, or even Kofa mata, you'll be forced to travel many miles just to worship. In Enugu for example, muslims can build a musque anywhere they are able to purchase a piece of land. This state sponsored injustice laid the foundation to fanatic muslims acting and thinking that christians are somehow lesser humans. The result is actually what we have today: muslims killing christians at random and at will, because they have long been supported by the northern states to hinder, incapacitate, and now kill christians at their most sacred place and day of worship.

are you going to do what i said or will just continue talking rubbish?
maybe you are one of the persons orchestrating church attacks

torkaka: and you too,this sunday leave plateau and kaduna. draw the line from benue to southwards and cowardly throw your bombs! then you will surely regret the day you were born muslim!

this sunday, go to kaduna, yobe, with your friends, guard the churches, stand their until everyone leave,
i will respect you more as a man who cares for his people, otherwise the insults you throw around and the treats of violence just make you to sound like a enemy of your own people,
because you are using the plight of your people for your own advantage, who knows if you don't work for gej yourself

torkaka: the bigger cowards are the ones who sneak around corners and blow themselves up to kill innocent people without giving them a chance for open confrontation!
i don't really blame a virgin loving pig like you,its is the oil/christian money that was used to build mosques in nigeria that is worrying you!

ibos have houses in the north and manu churches, in a place like kano you find up to 3 churches on the same street

naijaking1: For real! You must be referring to Hausa/Fulani constitution!!! If a Nigerian can build and settle anywhere they like, why are Igbos restricted in the north? Why are churches prohibited from many places in Kano for example?

enough of the insults, what do you plan to do with your big mouth? until then you are just another big mouth coward

torkaka: namfav
you are unbelievable! you expect me to open my arms for a muslim pig?
believe you me am no internet warrior and am not about to implicate myself online!
you pigs kill for very lame reasons like a careless statement from a reporter,a cartoon in a foreign land,a student using the pages of the unholy koran to cheat,a woman driving past the mosque during prayers etc!
for your information,i consider everything after plateau state upwards as niger republic!!

i mentioned those people as an example
why has a mosque not been bombed, bombing mosques doesn't make them more credible than bombing churches,
bombing churches just has the same affects politically as bombing mosques because it affects the surroundings,
i will not argue with you about what you think about islam because it is clear you already made up your own mind, whatever is left of it because you are shameless "warrior", a true coward, what are you doing to stop the violence or to arm your brothers to attack muslims? since you have so many so called solutions

torkaka: namfav
you mentioned politicians,PASTORS & IBOS as sponsors of bombs but curiously left out imans,emirs and islamic scholars!
my question to you is ; why hasn't a mosque been bombed if it is so political?
islam is a violent religion that feeds on the blood of innocent so called infidels for growth!

your living in the stone age
these attacks are not religious, or ethnic, there political, people who sponsor these attacks come from all walks of life, they are christians, they are pastors, they are politicians, ibo, you name it, they come from all works of life,
if for example buhari sponsored them what will he gain? it is political suicide to be feared, despised and hated, as much as we are irritated by the violence, no one is enjoying them, as muslims, no muslim is at home dancing at the news of churches being attacked, killing innocent children, elders etc. but a politician is heartless, believe me, gej and his allies are behind these attacks

torkaka: namfav
for real? you are talking about the real world? your religion is stuck in the stone age!!
bokoharam is religious and political. religious because churches and infidels are the targets(not heard them bomb a mosque yet). political because they want to create fear that unless a northern muslim rules they wouldn't be peace in the country. the northern political elite(whether pdp or not) believe jonathan rode on the back of niger-delta militants hence the intensity of bokoharam!

if you are paranoid their is no way i can help you,
you need professional help before something happens to you, you are accusing me, insulting muslims without prior knowledge,
you don't sound like someone who has a idea of the real world, you seem easily offended even by things that have little basis, if you think muslims are gaining from these bombings you are mistaken,
if a politician from the north spreads these attacks how will he gain power? remember gej can sponsor these attacks to put fear in you voting someone from the north, the same tactics they used against rauf aregbsola by accusing him of being a extremist,
you are free to believe what you want but at least, try and use your brain doing so

torkaka: namfav
you sound threatening because you lot have come to believe you own and determine everything in nigeria.
i don't blame you,for too long you have carried out these killings unchallenged!
with your responses here it is clear to a discerning mind what you and your lot(bokoharam) are truly after; THE PRESIDENCY!
bokoharam is simply a tool to guarantee a northern muslim presidency in the quickest time possible! thats why you keep mentioning gej!

sorry man, that is irrelevant and misleading, tuqyah is not in are fiqh, have never been taught of something like that, maybe some people do that without the knowledge?
it could just be a human instinct
don't forget that peter denied any knowledge of jesus, that is similar to the concept of tuqyah which some sects may refer to

hisblud: @namfav

http://www.meforum.org/3181/tawriya-creative-lying-islam

So what i believe you are doing is Tawriya, notice the bolded, to exonerate all muslims from the attrocities yet Boko haram who have vowed to make sure all become muslim or DIE. so no one is fooling anyone.

surely you are not comparing a country to a guesthouse?
a muslim will not tear the bible, because we consider it a holy book, neither we a muslim insult jesus, because we consider him a messenger,
why should you insult us? what do you achieve? sure kaduna is the beginning to you, but anyone with half a brain knows this is just a small fish in a big pan,
you have not seen anything yet, the heights that politicians such as gej will go, if you are going to support attacks on innocent muslims, you have not seen anything yet,
luckily i am more relaxed

torkaka: namfav
nobody is stopping anyone from owning property in any part of nigeria, if you come to my house and i give you my guest house it doesn't meam you will wake up one day and decide to take over my house!
a muslim can tear the bible and hell will not come down, i can't say same for your peaceful religion afterall a cartoon drawn in a foreign land means the death sentence of christian nigerians.
namfav,kaduna is just the beginning. very soon the heat will be turned up! the goat is now been pressed to the wall!