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Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 6:30pm On Nov 08, 2013
Possession football.
Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 6:14pm On Nov 08, 2013
Ose, Ose o, ose o, ose Baba.
Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 6:12pm On Nov 08, 2013
1 more goal for Kelechi to become joint highest goal scorer.
Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 5:41pm On Nov 08, 2013
All we are saying, give us more goals.
Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 5:40pm On Nov 08, 2013
Yea! Crossbar!
Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 5:38pm On Nov 08, 2013
Ha! Iheanacho!
Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 5:24pm On Nov 08, 2013
All we are saying, give us more goals.
Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 5:15pm On Nov 08, 2013
I wish Iheanacho could score at least two more goals in this game and win the golden boot.
Sports › Re: Mexico Vs Nigeria FIFA U17 WC Final (0 - 3) On 8th November 2013 by naptu2: 3:59pm On Nov 08, 2013
Preparing to witness our fourth victory (all in Asia). I can say I witnessed China 85, Japan 93, Korea 2007 and, hopefully we'll have another victory in UAE 2013.

We came from the Group of Death and have not lost a match. We should win it. I don't think that they should field Success in this match.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 3:40pm On Nov 08, 2013
donroxy: He was a warrior who despite being an Appointee as well as BoyBoy of the President, He stood Up and told GEJ,PDP and the whole Nigeria the unfathomable Truth !!!

That is what Intelligence agencies do and not Just PotBelleing,Whorism and drinking Beers !!
My question was, what happened to him afterwards?

The political class made sure that he lost his job, right?

So who would you blame, the security official (Azazi) or the politicians who made sure he lost his job?
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 3:33pm On Nov 08, 2013
donroxy: I'm fine too !!

Naptu seems to be defending the Intelligence agencies grin

I assume they are actually trying but their Job is never completed until the badguys are taken away from our polity ....

Abi Oby, what do u feel ?
I'm not "defending the security agencies", just stating the facts. The problem, as you stated in your first post, is with the political class. The job of the security services is to arrest and sometimes prosecute offenders (the ministry of justice/DPP also prosecute offenders). They are not the judges, neither are they the cabinet.

The policemen who carried out extra-judicial killings, in order to "put away the bad guys" ended up being prosecuted for carrying out extra-judicial killings. I hope that's not what you are advocating?
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 3:24pm On Nov 08, 2013
donroxy: Kudos to you Naptu as I envisaged U would give me a Superb Response Nonetheless, The Job Of security Operative whether in covert/Open Operations is only complete after Thorough Investigation;Arrest;Prosecution and Most Importantly Persecution which enables the Ops to take the BadGuys/Terrorists outa our street ........


The Security Operatives are Major stakeholders in Democracy as such,they must help enshrined Rule of Law in our Polity within democratic values ............ But, what do we have from them ? , they have been reduced to Political Machinery/Tools Instead of BackBone of a Nation !!!


I wish we have more Azazis !!!
Aha! Remember what happened to Azazi.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 2:33pm On Nov 08, 2013
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 2:32pm On Nov 08, 2013
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 2:25pm On Nov 08, 2013
donroxy: The question we should all ask is What is the Significance of African Intelligence ? in this Neo-colonialistic dispensation and not Just NIA,SSS,DMI blahblah ...


Naptu, the Question those guys are asking U is quite Understandable since NIA seems to be dormant also the entire Security Operatives and Channels, simply because of Politics which has destroyed all Institution s of Governance !!!


NIA is quite under Utilised !!
Aha! I'm going to answer your question because you've already written the answer in your post.

Take boko haram as an example. The menace had been detected by the SSS as far back as 2003/2004. This means that the SSS is doing its job. Reports were made about the sect. Nothing was done by those who have the political power to do something about it.

The sect attacked police stations in 2004/2005. The police and SSS arrested their members and charged them to court. What happened subsequently? They were released on bail. This means that the SSS did its job.

It was because it was the same boko haram members that had been involved in attacks in 2004/2005 that were also involved in attacks in 2009, that some members of the police decided to carry out extra-judicial killings, rather than arresting them and taking them to court.

You can see that it is wrong to say that the intelligence agencies are "not doing anything". The question is, in what kind of environment are they operating?

Members of the SSS arrested a boko haram suspect in a senator's residence, another one was arrested in a governor's lodge, all these would not have been possible if they were not working.

Who arrested the Lebanese that are accused of stashing weapons in Kano? Who arrested the Iranians in Lagos and Abuja?

The truth is that they are working, but their successes naturally receive less publicity than their failures.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 2:02pm On Nov 08, 2013
Directors General of the NIA (from inception).

Ambassador Albert K. Horsfall (1986–1990)

Brigadier-General Haliru Akilu (Rtd) (1990–1993)

Ambassador Zakari Y. Ibrahim (1993–1998)

Ambassador Godfrey B. Preware (1998–1999)

Ambassador Uche O. Okeke (1999–2007)

Ambassador Emmanuel E. Imohe (2007 - 2009)

Ambassador Olaniyi Oladeji (2009 - 2013)

Ambassador Ayo Oke
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 1:56pm On Nov 08, 2013
ocelot2006: I guess my mention of the foreign service school is amusing to you. I'll explain.


Yes the Ministry of Foreign Affairs owns the Foreign service school that trains all our diplomatic attaches. But the school equally trains NIA agents and Military officers assigned as Defence Attaches (from DIA), with the aim of prepping them for their roles in the diplomatic service. It's similar to the Americans were Special Forces operators from JSOC are trained by officers from the State Department. BUT the NIA does NOT report to the minister of foreign affairs AT ALL. They report solely to the office of the National Security Adviser. The Ministry is simply used as a cover. Even their vehicles use the Foreign Affairs plates.


And yes the office of the DG is filled by an Ambassador. It is no different from the NDLEA that was lead once by an Army Officer seconded from Defence HQ or a Police COMPOL from FHQ. But all field operatives are recruited from the best in the Armed Forces, Police Force, and the SSS, with ananlysts and support staff from the civilian sector.
naptu2: I'm going to spell it out (my question was actually directed at Ocelot, that's why you didn't understand it).

The NIA deals with foreign intelligence (while the SSS deals with domestic intelligence).

Intelligence officers (spies, etc) are usually attached to embassies. This enables them to carry out their work "legitimately". In the example I gave, the Russians will not arrest the "Cultural Attache" because he has diplomatic immunity. His position as "Cultural Attache" is a legitimate reason for him to be in Moscow. Spies without such cover are routinely arrested and jailed or executed, while the "diplomat spy" is simply expelled from the country.

It is in order to create greater synergy between the spies and the diplomats that the NIA is domiciled in the Foreign Affairs Ministry. The title "ambassador" is actually a civil service rank in the foreign ministry ( the same way you have "general" in the armed forces or "director" in most ministries). He doesn't have to be an ambassador to another country. The DG of NIA must have attained the rank of ambassador (if you think about it, that means that a "diplomat spy" might actually be the head of the NIA, but of course you won't know). These are career diplomats.

However, the NIA is not just a diplomatic organisation. It is a security agency. Therefore, it takes instructions from the National Security Adviser and prepares security reports that are submitted to the National Security Adviser.
Crime › Re: Robber Sold Pasuma’s N9M Range Rover Sport For N950,000’ by naptu2: 1:51pm On Nov 08, 2013
Basic: Now, I don't understand the rationale behind blurring an armed robber's picture to hide his face.
Human rights lawyers have often complained about the practice of parading suspects before the media. They say that a suspect is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. What if he is eventually acquitted by the court?

So, policemen and the media now take measures to obscure the identities of suspects.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 1:32pm On Nov 08, 2013
[quote author=nutty_hnic]Even if i were still in University, i really wouldnt care about a strike lasting for a year.
nothing in nigeria surprises me.

Instead of you to engage yourself we thoughts about the break down of the educational system, u choose to turn it into a joke.

i wouldnt blame you, you are just a sad product of a failed nation.

Nairaland is indeed a meltingpot...were an idio.tic individual that has self imposed mental blindness would freely address someone of a different kind[/quote]grin
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 1:27pm On Nov 08, 2013
[quote author=nutty_hnic]Whatever, NIA! SSS!! EFCC!!..just secure the Damn northern region of this country, drive the terrorist away.[/quote]
beejaay: who is thishuh cant you just go back to school gate and wait for ASUU to call of strike?
grin This must be the comedy section that I've been looking for. I'm going to relax and enjoy the fun.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 1:07pm On Nov 08, 2013
[quote author=hunter2,1]Na ignorance go kill you[/quote]Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhaha! That got me laughing hard.

If we follow that logic then:

Al-Qaeda attacked the World Trade Centre in 1993.
Al-Qaeda attacked the World Trade Centre in 2001.

Therefore, the CIA doesn't do shit.

Most of the examples that were mentioned in that post are actually within the jurisdiction of the SSS, rather than the NIA.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 12:49pm On Nov 08, 2013
[quote author=nutty_hnic]I beg your pardon.
Not unitl they appoint the DG of our NIA are nigerians supposed to be aware of who they are or what they do.

Does any nigerian citizen here stuff like - NIA intercepted a phone call that was made by boko haram operatives.
Do they publish any documented reports on attacks on nigerian soilhuh

Do they intercept emails that pose a direct threat to nigerian citizenshuh

Everyday fellow Nigerians die in the north, they kil people in schools, churches, even military barracks.

Yet we have an intelligence agency.
NIA should only be featured in Cartoons and Children story books.

they do nothing!!! thats why very few nigerians are aware of such an agency.
NIA is a goddamn joke.

probably a damn money laundering agency...mtchew[/quote]What's the difference between the NIA and the SSS?
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2:
crackhaus: Your question is double-ended, I don't understand it!

However, I assume the administrative headquaters of the NIA is within Nigeria, along with the office of the DG in it, so what's the purpose of an ambassador in charge sitting in-toto as the DG/
I'm going to spell it out (my question was actually directed at Ocelot, that's why you didn't understand it).

The NIA deals with foreign intelligence (while the SSS deals with domestic intelligence).

Intelligence officers (spies, etc) are usually attached to embassies. This enables them to carry out their work "legitimately". In the example I gave, the Russians will not arrest the "Cultural Attache" because he has diplomatic immunity. His position as "Cultural Attache" is a legitimate reason for him to be in Moscow. Spies without such cover are routinely arrested and jailed or executed, while the "diplomat spy" is simply expelled from the country.

It is in order to create greater synergy between the spies and the diplomats that the NIA is domiciled in the Foreign Affairs Ministry. The title "ambassador" is actually a civil service rank in the foreign ministry ( the same way you have "general" in the armed forces or "director" in most ministries). He doesn't have to be an ambassador to another country. The DG of NIA must have attained the rank of ambassador (if you think about it, that means that a "diplomat spy" might actually be the head of the NIA, but of course you won't know). These are career diplomats.

However, the NIA is not just a diplomatic organisation. It is a security agency. Therefore, it takes instructions from the National Security Adviser and prepares security reports that are submitted to the National Security Adviser.
Autos › Re: 1992 Nissan Sunny For Sale. by naptu2(op): 11:34am On Nov 08, 2013
Mustay: Naptu2, perhaps you'll do well to "archive" this motor car!!! Who knows, in the future it can serve as a reference in your posts tongue cheesy
That would have been possible if the motorcar belonged to me. It doesn't.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 11:28am On Nov 08, 2013
It was the practice during the Cold War, that diplomatic missions would have a "Cultural Attache".

So, let's say that the Cultural Attache at the US Embassy in Moscow is Mr X. Would it be right to say that Mr X is not the Cultural Attache, he is the resident CIA officer?
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 11:25am On Nov 08, 2013
ocelot2006: Do you really think it's easy passing thru the foreign service school and rising up to the position of Ambassador?
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 11:21am On Nov 08, 2013
ocelot2006: Wrong. The NIA is supervised by the Office of the NSA and recieves it's funding from there, not the Foreign service. It is also a member of the Joint Intelligence Board were intelligence is collated and analysed before being forwarded via the NSA to the National Security Council. The ministry of foreign affairs is basically used as a cover.
grin read the bolded again.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 11:13am On Nov 08, 2013
History:

Originally, the Police Special Branch (E Department) was the main intelligence agency in Nigeria.

The Special Branch failed to detect the Dimka Coup of 1976, so it was felt that a change was needed. The government created the Nigerian Security Organisation (NSO).

It was felt that the NSO was used by the Buhari Regime to oppress Nigerians (Ambassador Rafindadi), so General Babangida promised, in his coup speech, to change and reform the organisation. He subsequently broke up the NSO into the SSS, NIA and DIA.
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 10:57am On Nov 08, 2013
The DG of the NIA usually holds the rank of Ambassador or a higher rank (quite a few Directors General of the old NSO also had the rank of Ambassador).
Politics › Re: Ayo Oke Appointed As DG of National Intelligence Agency by naptu2: 10:48am On Nov 08, 2013
The tripod: -

State Security Service (SSS): Domestic intelligence (within Nigeria).

National Intelligence Agency (NIA): External intelligence (outside Nigeria)

Defence Intelligence Agency (comprised of DMI, DNI, DAI): military intelligence.

The SSS is supervised by the office of the National Security Adviser, while the NIA is supervised by the Foreign Affairs Ministry.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Vs Italy - International Friendly: (2 - 2) On 18th November 2013 by naptu2: 10:31am On Nov 08, 2013
Nigeria 1vs2 Italy @ USA '94. (Amunike's goal, Zola's red card, Baggio's last minute and extra time goals).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFFXdDAKnU8

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