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We won in the 80s (85), the 90s (93), the 2000s (2007) and I believe that this might just be the year that we'll win it in the 2010s.

All our victories have been in Asia and this competition is in Asia. I watched all the previous victories and I have the same buzz that I had then.

The match against Sweden is going to be our toughest game so far.

They already know us. It was extremely difficult the last time.

But I believe that we'll win. We've improved since our last meeting and we now use the wings to launch deadly counter attacks.

Why are you guys responding to that guy. I'll show you what he has just done, then you can decide if he is worth responding to.

PM News published an article, saying that it heard that markets will be closed for the Oba's birthday. It said that it had not been able to confirm from the Palace whether this is true or not.

I said that the news was strange because the palace issued a statement that it wants a low key ceremony and it advised people who had planned events to cancel the events. It also said that people that want to present gifts should donate to certain charities instead.

This guy came and said that I was defending the Oba's market closure!

Do you see that he has a problem reading and comprehending simple posts? Why engage him, when he won't even understand what you are saying?

Thread unfollowed.

donchris33: look at him defending the oba of lagos that have ordered closure of markets. Bigot! if it was Igbo he wouldn't have said PM news haven't confirmed the story, but be blabbing about that people are defending the Igbo person.

Bigot! imagine this same person saying that it is wrong for people to support stella and he is here supporting an oba on his rubbish.

BIGOTED SOUL.

Here he comes again with emotions.

Where's your proof that the Oba of Lagos ordered closures? Can you provide any proof or are you just inventing things again? PM News said it couldn't get confirmation, the Palace says it's having a low key birthday, yet you are inventing things.

Show me where I defended any closure. I'm beginning to wonder if you can read and comprehend my posts.

Wow! Check out the number of views!

django1: Whew!!! That was tough! Thank you golden eaglets for avenging your elder brothers.

I hope Issac success comes back next game though.

I heard that he'll be back.

It'll be wonderful, Success, Iheanacho and Yahaya.

lynpetra: My orgasm just seizzzzzze.WTF!!!

Yes!

Now I can finish my lunch.

Gosh! Now my blood pressure will come down and I'll start breathing normally.

Ose, Ose O, Ose Baba.

This is what I'm talking about. Quickly make the pass when you get the ball. Don't hold on to possession. The uruguayans will rush you.

Ha! Iheanacho!

The uruguayans are playing the argentinian kind of "rush football". Are boys need to be aware of this. They shouldn't waste time with the ball or give the uruguayans the space to tackle them. They need to shield the ball very well.

They shouldn't be in too much of a hurry to take shots.

They should hold on, I haven't finished eating.

Half time. Time for food.

There is something that makes me come into your presence, by and by.

Mr Aboki: Our Goalkeeper needs to stop spilling balls like that..

He's being doing that since he got injured. It's pretty scary, I hope he calms down.

All we are saying, give us more goals.

Obiagelli: Great response naptu2

Thanks dear.

Now I absolutely must leave.

UP EAGLES!!!

Desola: That is all effeminate snitches do. Knock you self out.

Snitch!

Thanks dear

donchris33: NAPTU, you are a bigot and I am done responding to you. like seriously, you ask, must you be on all threads? Do you know the type of threads I see you. On threads like this concerning igbos or GEJ digging history and youtube videos.

Naptu, if you are not a tribalist, I wish to see you on ANTI-APC and ANTI-YORUBA threads digging history and videos. OGUN STATE governor stops the ogun state speaker and official from talking to the press. I saw you view that thread and you vamoosed like wilywily. you history and youtube videos were no were to be found. On still that tinubu's iyaloja thread, did you see it or not? oh! I forgot, tinubu is not an Igbo man, so no history and youtube videos.i have many ANTI-YORUBA NAD ANTI-APC THREADS on nairaland and I have observed you have no history and youtube videos for them. But you turn to an expert in history when it is ANTI-IGBO.

ACTIONS they say speak louder than voice. you are a confirmed tribalist from your actions. just deal with it jare. have a luvly day ahead.

That exactly is your problem. You don't look at issues, you don't discuss issues, to you everything is about anti-igbo, anti-yoruba, anti-PDP, anti-ACN!

I have criticised ACN many times (the lastma fine etc) but I did not do that because I was anti-ACN, but because the policy, in my view, potentially violated the principle of audi alteram partem. I have defended ACN policies, not because I am a member of ACN, but because I could see how they benefited society. I support the rail modernisation programme, not because I'm pro PDP, but because I see how it benefits Nigeria. I was against the release of Teslim Folarin because, in my opinion, it was not in the interest of Nigeria.

I discuss issues, I don't discuss ethnic groups.

Can you criticise a member of your ethnic group who has done something wrong, even if many members of your ethnic group support that person?

Who is the bigot now?

donchris33: @ naptu, there is no need bro. you are a confirmed tribalist but with a pattern. I can see desola, eguerilla, and other hard-core tribalist giving you a pat at your back for a job well done on this thread.

lolz, if you had called them out on fashola thread you would have been their enemies by now. anyway keep up your hidden tribal agenda and continue to deceive the gullible ones by saying did you mention igbos? must you mention igbos before we know your affiliation. your a snake, that I know.

where were you in tinubu's iyaloja thread?

my guy please keep your response to yourself and go and sit down somewhere reading your history.

tribal bigot.

Guy stop trying to run away. State your position, stick to it and defend it, rather than trying to change with every post.

You say I'm a bigot? What does that mean to me? Do you become the sun just because I call you the sun? Why would your opinion matter to me? Do you know my opinion of you (especially with regards to the way you treat women)?

donchris33: heheheheheehheheheheheehhehehee!

1: so GEJ coming out of a UN meeting and being rushed to by some media outlets for interview can be compared with fashola who prepare for a lecture on a subject which he has been informed of prior to time. It like mitt Romney and barack Obama on debate befor elections on a topic like security, economics, health or education. They come prepared for the debate on the issue of that debate and they expect answers and questions. can you compare such debate (lecture) with barack Obama leaving a UN meeting and being asked on this allegation of espionage leveled against the USA. Is there any difference between this two scenarios? Now our bone of contention on this issue is you saying that that sahara owned by sowore is not being partial by posting two videos of fashola in a well prepared lecture that you cant take him unawares with questions by them on a subject of discussion on that lecture and GEJ being asked a random question by the same sahara reporters on any issue without a focus on one just to nail him as usual. Look for a video of GEJ in a lecture( a particular subject) being asked questions by sahara and compare with this same fashola lecture video. Then come up with a video of sahara just unexpectedly getting fashola for an interview like these GEJ's own without prior information. Do you think saharareporters will do that? They will not do that to fashola in order not to disgrace him because they are on APC payroll, but they will gladly do that to GEJ. "If I be GEJ, if they near me, na big slap go follow them for face."

2:naptu, I don't make up things and accuse you of them. I accuse you of what I see about you. I can see through you and your pretense. just cool down. what am accusing of here is: you are saying on this thread that why are some people defending stella because she is from their tribe. and I am calling you out, by asking you, where were you when fashola's tribe were defending him. why being selective on the two tribes. you called for investigation of the both, yes, then stop at that, instead of you going further on stella's case to blame her people for defending her, while you didn't blame fashola people for defending him. So, are you saying the yorubas have the exclusive right to defend their people and the Igbos don't. where is the equality then? and thee lies your hypocrisy. LOLZ on the tinubu issue, the pretender naptu I know would have digged up history and youtube video if it was GEJ that imposed his daughter as iyaloja to educate us on why GEJ's daughter do not merit it, that's why am citing it as one of your examples of double standard.

4: the constitution is there and it embodies the laws and policies of a country. Or are we using an inflexible or unwritten law? To the best of my knowledge we are using a flexible and written laws which is subjected to amendments, until then please giving me a law or policy outside the Nigeria 1999 constitution to support fashola's impunity will not go here. This offence of deportation is an interstate issue and a Nigerian constitution must be quoted since it is not within a state. As you are about to go dig out fashola's policy or laws of lagos, I hope you know this case is a state to state thing and Nigeria constitution must be quoted on whether fashola has a right to deport a citizen of Nigeria from lagos.

5: naptu, you mean you didn't accuse igbos? when you said that stella should be investigated like how you said on fashola, why then go further to say that why are some people against her being probed? you know it has been igbos that have been beside her, so tactically, in order not to be seen as a tribalist, you use a pleasing word by saying some people supporting her when you are100% percent reffering to igbos. when you called on fashola's investigation, did you ask this some people(yorubas) to stop supporting fashola. no. hypocrisy. please go to you 1st post on this thread and see if your not tacitly accusing igbos of tribalism. the only difference is that you didn't mention Igbo. That is your way of tribalism bro.

6: lolz at the constitution have already declared fashola guilty. Yes, it has already declared him guilty, but, with the same constitution that has declared him guilty, it says there should be a judge to do that. As good citizens of Nigeria, we leave the judge to declare him that already guilty because the constitution says the judge should do so and the same constitution which he breached has declared him guilty already, just remaining the formalities of a judge doing so. The question is;How then does a judge declare a man with immunity guilty. the same constitution says the judge cant declare him guilty because has immunity. Does that make him as a good citizen act with impunity and openly disregard the constitution of Nigeria.

And also to the best of my knowledge too. a court of competent jurisdiction should declare stella guilty. Why shout one group of supporters down and leave the others. stella is innocent until proven guilty and her supporters have the right to support her like fashola's supporters.

you mean to show me details of policy? show me that under the Nigerian constitution or is there any other constitution we are using that I don't know? am willing to see that, but under the Nigerian constitution.

Good God! Did you read what you wrote?



1) The allegation was that Sahara Reporters was being partial by asking tough questions about the Oduah issue. I showed that Sahara Reporters asks everybody tough questions. You are now talking about whether GEJ or Fashola went prepared Now, you've even abandoned your previous claim that it was an arrangee interview Gosh!

2) I asked you for evidence to show that I blamed Igbos for "supporting Stella", you've got none. What you do is that you keep making things up. Now you allege again that I said that igbos shouldn't "defend Stella", do you have any evidence of this? (Please answer the question this time, rather than inventing something else). The OP said that the media is biased because they are asking questions. My contention is that the media ask questions of everybody. It's their JOB! How hard can it be to understand this? Again, you are asking me about a thread that I was not on. How many threads are you going to ask me about? Doo you think I'm on every thread Guy, reason!

So for you, the whole issue is not about what's right or wrong, but about supporting someone just because they are from your ethnic group. Hm.

3) I asked you for evidence of any post I made claiming that xyz was PDP propaganda. Where's the evidence (you keep making up things and abandoning them when you discover that you can't defend them).

4) I see you running again. I have stated repeatedly that a person is deemed innocent until proven guilty by a court of competent jurisdiction. You claim that the "constitution has declared someone guilty". I asked you how that works and you repeat your claim. I ask you again and you start talking about judges! WTH! This is my position on both issues and it has always been my position!

Please guy, try and read and think critically before you post. Don't let your emotions take control of you.

Desola: Naptu2 is a snitch! Effeminate something!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahha

And I will report you if you step out of line.

I'm off to watch football.

Newcastle vs Chelsea
Ivory Coast vs Argentina
Nigeria vs Uruguay.

I hope I'll have answers to my questions when I return.

1) How does the constitution convict a person without a court process?

2) Who is the "somebody" that is witch hunting the minister and where is the evidence of that?

3) Why someone decided that one interview was staged, while the other wasn't?

Etc

donchris33: 1 you know what is called to create awareness? Do you know what is called spontaneous?

Fashola's interview is the latter, atleast, sahara reporters sowore did not just took him unawares before the interview. Look, Nigerian politicians are known to spend huge amount of money on their PR, GEJ included. they do this time to time. they hardly grant interviews without prior notice so as to get prepared, except in spontaneous cases like this GEJ's interview coming out from a UN meeting you posted here. In as much as I stand by my word that fashola's interview was stage-managed, I cant also exempt GEJ from this acts likewise other politicians. This is simple logic according to the system in Nigerian politics which even a primary school student knows. Nigerian politicians prepare for every interview as they are given prior information except in spontaneous cases like this GEJ's case. You naptu that I know is very intelligent to agree with me on this.

2: you mean published many exclusives proven to be true? Are all their publications true? your statement of "many" publications and not "all" publications is an admission that there are some false exclusives being published. so why wont I think one is real and one is fake like the yorubas and APC goons also do selective true exclusives from media outlets and discard others related to Tinubu. Why then have problem with me and my likes that choose to believe some and you don't have problems with your likes that end up saying it is PDP propaganda at work to tarnish tinubu and his Cohort's image. Is that not hypocrisy on your side that you are all over this thread accusing some people of exclusive truth, Please naptu, where were you in all the threads that tinubu imposed his daughter on the people of lagos and the yorubas were saying that it is PDP propaganda, which later became true. Are then not the hypocrite here?

3: I never stated that fashola is guilty, but our constitution have already declared him guilty or don't we have a constitution again? I hope you are not suggesting that we throw away our constitution because fashola your perfect God have disappointed you with such an outright impunity melted out of a group of people because of hatred. I am not a judge, but there is a law for the country which guides us all. so because am not a judge you can come and slap me( a fact and not fiction) and I shut up without seeking re-dress. It was a fact that fashola did wrong and he whole-heartedly admitted to that, hence is apologies to ndigbos. Please, expantiate on the wrong of the minister apart from the fact that she is the minister of a ministry that an institution under it was alledged to be involved in a shady deal. so, tell me more that I don't know on the deal that I should call her corrupt. why did the media choose to call her corrupt and you see no problem in that because she is not your Yoruba or APC paymasters. HYPOCRISY.

you said fashola apologized to people who misunderstood the policy? please elaborate on this type of policy that is alien to our constitution. Or are you saying fashola has a special policy that we Nigerians don't know. I hope if it was GEJ you will support such impunity and try to mislead gullible nigerians by saying its a non-existent policy. care to ell me more about this policy? that's why I said, leave politics for politicians and focus on history. they are good at propaganda like you are made to believe he acted based on a policy or your just being mischievious as usual.

finally, your views on this two instances might be the same call for investigation. My grouse with you is your handling of the both with the same view. why come and blame ndigbos for supporting stella and you didn't blame yorubas for supporting fashola. you care to show me a past quote of your were you blamed the yorubas who were all out supporting fashola like your blaming ndigbo. Are you not the person with a double standard?

1) The GEJ interview is exactly like the Fashola interview. Fashola gave a speech at the London School of Economics and there was a question and answer session. That's when Sowore asked his questions. It wasn't a planned interview. GEJ was attending meetings at the UN. That's when Adeola asked those questions. If one could be staged, then it means both could be staged. Why did you single one out?

2) Can you point to any post that I've made stating that x or y is PDP propaganda. You just make up things and accuse me of them, then you change direction when I call you out. First, it was "where was I in the deportation threads?" I demonstrated to you that I posted and everybody knows my views, now it's "where was I in the Tinubu "imposing his daughter on Lagos thread" whatever that means. Am I on every thread? I'm on this thread and you used double standards and I've called you out. The question is, is it true or not? Stop trying to change the topic or divert the discussion. Next will be, where was I on the u17 thread. Did I accuse any paper of carrying "PDP propaganda"? Guy, respond to the accusations against you while I'll respond to any about me. I'm not responsible for others.

3) Have you read the constitution? Do you really believe that every policy or law is in the constitution?

4) You said you hope that if it was GEJ I would support the policy, guy read and educate yourself. I support a lot of GEJ's policies, including the railway modernisation, the power project, etc so what are you yarning about? I analyse issues based on their merit and their benefits to Nigeria and Nigerians. I do not belong to any political party and I don't care about any ethnic group or "tribe" as some call them. I would advise you to do the same for the benefit of yourself and your family.

5) Can you point to where I blamed igbos for supporting Stella? (You keep making things up). I said that you cannot expect people, especially the media, not to say anything or ask questions. The idea that everybody will just keep quiet and say nothing is ridiculous. That's why I advised you to read and reason, rather than relying on your emotions.


6) You said that"the constitution has already declared Fashola guilty". Can you explain how that works? To the best of my knowledge an accused is only pronounced guilty by a court of competent jurisdiction. This is stated in the constitution. Can you explain how the "constitution declared him guilty?" I await your explanation.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

You want the details of the policy? Boy I'm so willing to post it. Just watch out and don't complain when I start.

Finally! Here it is. Market closures are usually ordered by the market associations, but here is the statement from the Iga (Palace).

[size=14pt]OBA OF LAGOS OPTS FOR LOW-KEY BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION AS HE TURNS 70[/size]

Posted on October 25, 2013 by Encomium.

Urges admirers, associates, friends to direct proposed fund for advertorials to charity.

As he turns 70 years on October 29, the Oba of Lagos, His Royal Majesty, Oba Riliwanu Babatunde Akiolu 1, has appealed to all those wishing to place advertorials for him, either in the print or electronic media, to forego such plans saying the current atmosphere in the country does not warrant any form of merriment.

In a statement from the Palace signed by his media aides, Tokunbo Mumuni-Eshilokun and Kunle Odufuwa, His Royal Majesty advised such admirers, including individual, corporate and multi-national organizations, to direct funds meant for such advertorials to charity and instead join him in prayers for the peace, stability and unity of the country on that day.

[b]Noting that a good number of individuals, corporate and multinational organizations have actually set in motion various programmes and activities to celebrate the occasion, the statement said much as the Oba appreciates such outpouring of goodwill, he would advise the people to cancel the programmes.

According to the statement, “His Royal Majesty has, accordingly appealed to those who have elected to honour him on his 70th Birthday to direct such funds to the Iga Idunganran Primary Health Care Centre and accordingly contact the Medical Director of the Iga Idunganran Primary Health Care Centre in order to obtain the list of needed drugs and equipment for the furnishing of the hospital”.

While expressing the appreciation of “His Royal Majesty to all donors to the Lagos Monarch Projects Funds which includes Ilupeju Town Hall and Anikantamo Town Hall and Health Centre”, the statement, however, noted that the Iga Idunganran Primary Health Care Centre “which has since been put into public use”, still needs quite a number of equipment to bring it to international standard.

The statement also disclosed that N250 million has been collected so far for the Ilupeju Town Hall and Anikantamo Town Hall and Health Centre projects adding that the amount has since been deposited “in a special project account while the total some required is N650 million”.

On the programmes and events lined up by the Royal Palace to celebrate the occasion, the statement said the event would kick off on Saturday, October 26, with the special cleaning of the Palace and its environs which will end on Sunday, October 27. It enjoined all residents to join in the exercise.

On Monday, October 29, according to the statement, there would be a Muslim prayer between the hours of 8 a.m. and 10 a.m. in the Palace followed by the installation of the new Iyaloja General of Nigeria, Mrs. Folashade Tinubu-Ojo by His Royal Majesty who would be assisted by members of the Lagos Council of Obas and Chiefs “in line with the customs of Lagos State as Oba Dosunmu, who reigned from 1853 to 1885, installed Kosoko as the first Oloja of Lagos”.

The event would be followed by the presentation of the new Olori-Ebi/Overall head of the Bashua Chieftaincy Family in the person of Chief Musiliu Adisa Bashua (SAN) while light refreshment would be served to guests thereafter between 2 p.m. and 6 p.m., according to the statement.[/b]

Meanwhile, the International Lions Club will, in appreciation of His Royal Majesty’s Birthday, embark on free health screening and public enlightenment on preventable diseases such as cholera and measles, among others, at the Iga Idunganran Primary Health Care Centre for all Lagos residents, from November 1 to 6, 2013, the statement said.

http://encomium.ng/oba-of-lagos-opts-for-low-key-birthday-celebration-as-he-turns-70/

Now, remember that PM News says that it has not been able to confirm from the Palace if the story is true.

Ngwakwe: Let it be known that Princess Stella Oduah is a politician and not the permanent secretary or director general in that ministry who may have spent 20 to 35 years in such a place and must have mastered every laid down rules and procedures over time hence she rely on these experts (DGs and Seconds) to prepare their respective budgets and map out their implementation when passed by NASS.

It should be noted that the approval came with such a clause "do the needful" thereby acknowledging various bureaucratic steps needed as the case may be.

The DG being an expert over the years should have known that the amount needed cabinet approval and come back to madam minister.

Don't crucify madam minister for acknowledging the expertise of her DGs and giving them conditional approval.

My brother, I'm waiting to find out who "somebody" is and to see the "evidence".

donchris33: Look at the 2 interviews, tell me which one is real and staged amongst them both? Is it a Gej leaving a UN meeting and one of sowore's employee rushing him to interview him and a fashola well prepared and given a notice months ahead of his own interview, with sowore himself the planner and not his employee interviewing fashola.$ do the maths.

On th issue of deportation, it was unconstitional to deport a fellow citizen of the same country by any governor according to nigerian constitution. Is that not a conviction in itself. What trial do you want to place fashola on, when he is already convicted and guilty of wrong doing by the constitution

The constition says deportation is a crime and corruption is a crime. Fashola deported and the whole world knows that, he was not accused of deportation, but he actually did it, that is a flagrant to the constitution and it is a wrong and he is guilty of that. Stella is alleged to have beong involved in corruption. There is nothing to show that stella did such deals, there is no were she was involved in the deals, except that the institution NCAA involved is under her ministry which she is the surpervising minister. Why not investigate to see her involvement? No! The media didnt do that, what they did is labell her corrupt.

The two cases of fashola and stella are cases that are against the constitution and they are wrong even morally. Why that of fashola was confirmed that he deported and not a lie as he even admitted saying peter obi is just seeking cheap popularity as his best defence, stella's case was just an imaginary corruption on her by the media which she has come out to say her own side of the story.

Fashola has since apologised to ndigbo, is it not an admission of his wrongoing. Stella has come out and proved the media killing her wrong by defending herslef perfectly. Now, naptu, stella is telling you to do the needfull and focus on your history and leave politics for politicians. Its a dirty game, you know? Or are you raedy to play or do the needfull?

Thank you very much for confirming, in two instances, what I earlier said.

Your contention is that Fashola's interview was staged, while Jonathan's was not staged.

1) What evidence do you have that any of the interviews was staged? Were you there when it was being staged? Are you privy to the planning of the interviews?

2) These interviews were conducted by the same organisation, an organisation that has published many exclusives and they've been proven to be true (Patience Jonathan's illness, Yar'Adua's illness, etc), why would you think that one is real while the other is fake? Is it because one of the participants is from your group while the other isn't? Is that not hypocrisy?


You have stated that Fashola is guilty, although you are not a judge neither are you the chairman of an investigative panel, yet others on this thread say that people should not allege that the minister is guilty until there's a trial, is that not double standards? What about the concept of a person being innocent until proven guilty by a court of competent jurisdiction? Your own view suggests that the minister is innocent, are you a judge?


Fashola apologised to people who MISUNDERSTOOD the policy. He did not apologise for "deporting" anybody.

My view about this issue is consistent with my view about the alleged deportation issue. In both cases I have called for an investigation to determine what happened (I'm happy that the case is finally going to court) and I can quote my posts to back it up.

My question to you is, why the double standards?

donchris33: Guy! You are good at history and not at politics. Continue with your history education and leave politics for politicians because, you dont know how the game is being played.

You are bringing up a well rehearsed interview that was staged to boost fashola's image. We taking politics your always digging on history and looking for youtbe videos to tell us your a historian. You stink alot but your a pretender.

What is your take on fashola depoting igbos unconstitutionally and yorubas supporting him. You were nowhere to be found then with your history, but you have suddenly found your history skills to be spamming this thread with staged nonsense to decieve gullible nigerians.

You keep silent at a wrong and you resurface with selected histories and staged videos at another wrong.

Please just do us a favour and go and open one thread on herbert macaulay, abiola, azikiwe and co and stop pretending to be objective here.

It is right for yorubas to come out enmasse and support fashola's unconstitutionally deportation of ndigbo, but, it is wrong for igbos to fight against an igbo lady who is being vilified without any invetigation and conviction by the media.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

So, out of all Sahara Reporters interviews, this is the only one that was staged, right? Was this also staged?

Adeola (Sahara Reporters) vs Goodluck Jonathan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfvrJAefdBs

Stop foaming at the mouth and address issues.

2) I was silent during the "deportation saga"? I don't think that anyone posted as much as I did, go and read! I've been waiting for people to bring up this deportation issue and I've also mentioned it. How come the same people that quoted Sahara Reporters, Punch, Premium Times, etc are now condemning those same outlets? How come they were ready to condemn Fashola, without investigation or court trial and they now say we should keep quiet about Oduah? Guy, discuss issues and not emotions.

So tell me, how do you "play the game?" Anybody can be accused, except someone from my hometown?