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Hhh4444:
Nice one,be glad you got enlightened earlier. You would have been wasting your precious time, energy and resources by going to church.

Actually, reading the bible without bias is enough to convince one that something is wrong with christainity and the bible itself.

uncleck:
Zero attendance. More zero attendance years to come

Ever since i gained enlightenment at the age of 7, church became a joke to me. Stopped going at the age of 13.

Dvea:
And I realised I'm talking to a wall. Correction they never adapted pegan beliefs they simply overshadowed the darkness because that's what christ does, He brings light to the dark. Just to enlighten you a bit though I doubt it'll work.

The ealry church worked hard to celebrate Jesus as much as they could. Christ's death, his presentation to the temple, the message of the angle Gabriel, his sufferings and persecution, his transfiguration, and of course his birth. If they could celebrate Jesus they ensured they did. So every major event recorded in the bible about Jesus has a celebration date even his getting lost and being found by his parents. Everything has a date for celebration.

Again the only reason why Christmas blew up was because there was alresdy an existing event in Rome that fell around that time and in a bid to stop the oagsn worship, christmas was promoted insteadwhich eventualy replaced it. But for hundreds of years Jesus birthday had been celebrated by Christian communities. If the roman worship and celebration of the sun god had happened in April then it would have simply been Easter that would have replaced it.

So even though they followed the tradition of Jewish teachings to decide in a date, they already wanted to celebrate his birthday and just wanted some accuracy. If that calculation had ended up in September then Christmas woukd have been in September. The date itself was only set after the desire to have a date existed. At no point in time was pagan tradition the reason why Christmas was celebrated. It existed long before that.

Also yes, if the body if christ make a general decision it is approved, thats where the communial authority of the body of chirst shows its power. When the disciples decided that all christian converts sell their property and share, it wasnt Jesus that gave that rule, it was a communal decision. So many things we do today are communal decisions because Christianity isnt just a religion ins a way of life that takes over everything in its path including pagan traditions.

But again, i doubt this will make any dent in your disbelief. Thankfukly though, christianity and its traditions is too ancient to be shaken by people who came 2025 years after with their perosnal beliefs and a lack of knowledge of Christian history.

If anything Christmas has dominated the world as a general holiday. Even in countries that do not officially recognise it as a holiday, the realities of how much communal power Christmas and the celebration of the birth of Christ triggers in the whole world leaves enough mark to shake the world and show testimony to the beauty and glory of Christ's birth.

And if it leads people to think of and act for Christ, then I'll say Merry Christmas to you and may the light of His truth and the testament of His first coming enlighten you. Cheers!

Smh. I'm talking to a wall too. Let's call a spade a spade.
Catholics bowing down to statues is not Christianity.
White garment churches infusing occultic traditional practices is not Christianity.
Pentecostal churches looting gullible members in the guise of false hope and miracles is not Christianity.
Celebrating Jesus birth on a date associated with pagan festivities is not Christianity.
Decorating cut down trees with ornaments is pagan and is spoken against in the bible. To add insult to injury you do it on Christmas day.
Santa has nothing to do with christainity.

If your brain can't process any of this.
It's certain you're the one that is the wall.

qtx:
Those who truly make money don't talk about it. Lol.

Those who travel don't talk about it😅.

qtx:
Hope it's not USA that you referred to as morality cropped country if you are a Nigerian? I can see you have been battered by low self esteem. It's no one's fault. Stay in your country , and you are getting pissed. After colonizing and giving you freedom, you still follow them to colonize you again by force. Otherwise which one is green card again that you are dying for?

Go there if you wan go o.
I'm making my money here.
Don't know what you're talking about.

Alex4555:
Bobo you be dey ment b4 b4

Buh honestly it's true.
Especially states with high kidnapping activities.

qtx:
Who told this one, i have not been visiting the USA? am not a simpleton like you bro. They didn't ban all categories of VISAs. They only ban the ones of the less privileged people like you. If I want to go there right now, i will go, okay.Those of us who have the ability to go we are not even worried about d ban like strugglers like you who see it like a golden oppotrtunity . Rest

You won't condemn travelling over there if you had a green card. Insecurity has made you spill your whole life story here, questions i didn't ask you. I don't recall stating interest in their morally crippled country.

It's people like you that sold us to the Europeans. Gullible short termed thinking *****.

Dvea:
Again if you did your research you'd know that all those additional information were commercialised when santa Clause was introduced to the US. The Dutch brought the tradition of saint Nicolas to the Americans and over time they commercialised it. Made screenplays about him, used him in ads and added modern day identity to make it more appealing to people. And because it didnt tamper with the original truth of Saint Nicolas Christian communities and leaders didn't oppose it. It's not pagan because its a modern retelling of a real life figure that gave gifts to children and families the eve of Christmas.

People like you refuse to see that there is culture and community in Christianity. These modern retelling of saint nick was very instrumental in the late 1800s and early 1900s in spreading Christianity. How can it be pagan when it reminds you of Christianity?

Besides santa Claus as a tradition did not start today or yesterday. Saint Nicolas lived in 400AD and the tradition of children asking him for gifts during Christmas existed right after his death. It's an ancient tradition that has existed along side Christmas since the days of the ealry church. It became super popular in Europe in the 1500s and 1600s and popular in the American in 1800s and 1900s but it has always been there. Like wise Christmas, the first report of ealry Christians celebrating Christmas was in 200AD long before Christianity even became political and was Influencing countries.

The ealry church and it's communities have been celebrating these events for centuries as an approved activity. Why because Christianity includes both biblical truths and Christian traditions and that's something modern pastors refuse to teach that the church for 2000 years had to create traditions and customs that defined them because the Bible didnt give them that. Instead they created traditions and customs in line with the realities, truths and wisdoms of the ealry church. And as long as it didnt contradict the Bible it was approved. One such tradition was celebrating the birthday of Jesus and then venerating saint Nicolas as a pioneer in promoting the christian Christmas spirit of selfless giving and community love.

I explained in detail how the ealry church choose 25th of December as christ birth in my earlier reply on this post all of which was decided upon within the first 100 to 200 years after Christ's death. You may want to read that and be informed.

All the long writeup. You just shot yourself in the leg.
You've confirmed what I'm trying to prove. Christainity is b******. Adapting pagan and folklore beliefs then calling it culture. That's why they're so much misleading diversity
White garment too that adapted traditional practices na culture abi?

qtx:
Coming to USA to go and do what? You hate them yet you want to go there. I don't understand the kind of people some of you are. Stay in. Your country , you will not. You want to go to the country of trump you hate so much? Stay and develop your country.

I'm saying A you're saying Z.
You lack comprehension.

As if they give you visa you no go do Thanksgiving.

Dvea:
If you did your research well and didn't rely on your own knowledge you'd have found out that the name itself santa Clause is Latin for saint Nicolas. And if you researched enough you'd know that he was a real Bishop who gave secrete gifts usually the day before Christmas to poor people in his community. If you researched enough you'd know that celebrating saint Nicolas has been there for ages and it was the Dutch who introduced the tradition to the US who went on to commercialise it. If you researched well you'd have found out that is not in fact a modern day tradition but one that has existed since the 1000s. But of course you didn't research.

If you don't jump into conclusions you'd realize i mentioned what you just wasted your time explaining. Modern day santa has nothing to do with saint Nicholas. Modern day santa lives in the north pole, rides flying reindeers and has elfs has supporting staff. What has that got to do with the bible or christainity.


Enjoy your pagan holidays and belief.

qtx:
Mr foresight, people like you are the real deceivers that come tell the people all kinds of lies and when you have power, it's you , your stomach and the families alone and Nigeria keeps getting worse and worse. If you have foresight as claimed, will your life be this miserable? Export more whether you like it or not more action coming from the USA. You are real enemies of this country. Use your foresight to liberate yourself from the shackles of your life first

Don't say someone didn't warn you. A country that has restrictions on you coming to them is offering you help and you're shining your teeth.

femi4:
Boxing day is a holiday...dont attach it to Christmas

That He was born is more important than the day he was born.

Mind you, each day of the week was coined from pegan festivals and I am sure you worship whatever you believe in in any of these days

E.g Moon day = Monday
Sun day = Sunday

I don't worship any imaginary God.

Do your research well. Boxing day is associated with Xmas and christainity.

qtx:
Lol. Since it's just a guess then I know it means nothing BC a guess can also be wrong. In any case you guess whatever you like, we already identified who you are and what is eating up. Expect more according to Santa Trump. As e de pain dem, e de sweet us. Lol

People like you are the reason why Nigeria is where it is. You can sell your soul for lack of foresight and ignorance

Houseontherock1:
What's your obsession with Christianity and where did the Bible warn against celebrating Christ on a particular date? Besides, the date cannot be pagan— only worship can be. While December 25 may have had cultural significance historically, Christians redeemed the day by focusing on Christ, just as Paul taught that days themselves are neutral (Romans 14:5–6). What defines worship is intention and object, not the calendar date. If Christ is honored, the celebration is not pagan. Christians celebrate Christmas to honor Jesus Christ, not pagan gods. The focus is Christ, not the calendar!

Did he ask for his birth to be celebrated?
The celebration has pagan origin.
See attached

Asides the date. Adopting pagan practices like boxing day and the idolization of the xmas tree is warned against.
Even easter too. What has Easter bunny and eggs got ro do with the resurrection of Jesus

Onlinetutor7:
You will just end up giving yourself B.P at a young age. You are not Religious, so what is your concern with how a Religious man decides to worship his God.

I just want y'all to acknowledge that the celebration has non christain origin. Sefini.
And if you're a true christain. You shouldn't have anything to do with ungodly holidays.

Onlinetutor7:
How is that your business. If you like cry from today till eternity,Christmas have come to stay.

In this age of information, some people have choosen ignorance.

Arostar2023:
Which Christians absorbed Santa? It was the world that created and accepted Santa not the church. Maybe you should also tell us who created the tradition of eating chicken during Christmas I guess we should stop eating rice and chicken on Christmas because Satanists were involved in Christmas.

So Muslims acknowledge Santa?
I'm talking A, you're talking F. Because you have no concrete thing to say.

IamAtAnger:
Una go juz dey misinterprete everything to suit una sef

It's you guys that have misinterpreted yourselves that why you have over 10,000 denominations and counting yet you don't preach the same thing.

Everything i quoted is from your bible

equity1:
Is whatever they will get more precious than human life you terrorist have been killing?

Check the record

Flexyup:
No problem. What trump did not get are your politicians not already looting it.

Nah that's not what I'm talking about.

qtx:
one of the sympathisers identified here.! That is how we spot them one by one . they have come

I can guess your age and financial situation from this your reply

Iweakbro:
so? Are you benefiting from the so called resources? Can you travel freely?

Who mentioned resources. I'm saying there's always a hidden agenda.

SEGLIZ:
this isn't loud enough, I beg tell well o. it is about serving and service to Christ.

bros the date isn't as important to us as celebrating our Lord Jesus. My humble question to you is this, "HAVR YOU GIVEN YOUR LIFE TO JESUS CHRIST"? your answer will determine discussing His birthday.

Why should i give my life to someone or something that has been packaged for ignorant people like you?
Religion is what the Arabs and Europeans used to steal your resources and your common sense. It's so bad that you defend it with ignorant pride.

Over 45,000 denominations of Christianity worldwide.
Over 10,000 denominations in Nigeria.
Each denomination has different branches. None believe in the same doctrine. They use different versions of the corrupt bible. They despise each other.
Catholics look at C&S worshippers like pagans, whereas they are the same thing.
Redeemers believe they are better than Winners chapel, yet the founder of one is a protege of the other and they both fly private jets and are siphoning their gullible members.

So there's your answer. Why should i give my life to something that doesn't make sense.

If you want to convince me, tell me what church you attend.

SEGLIZ:
this isn't loud enough, I beg tell well o. it is about serving and service to Christ.

Check the image i attached.
Even your bible warns against it.
Y'all are confused.

Christmas tree you decorate has pagan origins too.

You have become entangled in the vices of the pagan Romans and you defend it with pride.

No where wey bad things no dey happen.

Holluwhakemmy:
either Jesus Christ was born or December 25th or not that's not the issue we can choose a day to celebrate our Lord and Saviour. A ku Odun, Odun a yabo fun wa .Amin

Simple research will save most people from ignorance.
Early christains never celebrated it.
They picked a day dedicated to their God to create supposedly peace between christains and pagans. Happened during the time of Constantine.

Another pagan incorporation into christainity.
People don't ask questions.

I asked my Crk teacher in Jss1 and he told me to not question God. One catholic babe in my class told me he is saint Nicholas, as how na😂. Went to the cyber cafe to do research and it's mixed information.
From sources citing European folklore origin back to the saint Nicholas bull****.

One thing is certain though. The Santa we know today with the red outfit was made popular from ads in the 1930's by coca cola. And before you know, christains absorb everything, including what they have no idea about the origin.

Jesus wasn't born on December 25.
You guys are celebrating a pagan holiday.

Who incorporated santa?
What has boxing day got to do with the bible?

Buh honestly. The united states won't help without getting something in return.

If e reach your turn. Do giveaway🤭

DeclanR:
Naso bro.

I'm well schooled, while she's not. My mates, elders and many other people, rate me so highly. But I still remain humble. Sometimes I even esteem myself so lowly.

I'm not rich, but I've got taste.

I was properly raised and taught morals while growing, but she wasn't.

I'm not a single father. But she is.


Above all, she's not decent. I can't imagine myself settling with such baggage, honestly.

Ahhh😂

All these things wey you just mention.
If you still wan chop her you can still endure.
But don't wife her or get her pregnant.

Reminds me of one babe like that wey one egbon adugbo wey dey do gee snatch from my hand. She's nkw a single mom. Didn't feel it because she was not the only one i was dating.

Your reasoning go far pass this babe. You fit just dey gbensh am. Ignore her shortcomings.