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Lex777:
Anyone who has watched It's always sunny in Philadelphia?

ShitStain:
Make person recommend better horror series abeg

Moneyboyz:
Midnight Mass: That's some fúcked up shit right there.

Lebronjames23:
i have avail for 95k.. Where's your location

Theflint1:
So it's GRRM's job to spot bloopers

DP84:
I am not one to force my viewpoint down people's throats but there are those who see movies or shows and pay crucial attention to details. They love to know 'the how', 'the when' and 'the why' events happen. Beyond clashing of swords or the senseless gunslings, give or present a logical plot and don't assume the audience are as stupid as those who only look forward to plot twists and fight scenes.

1. Arya killed the NK - How? Till date, no clue.
2. Ser Bronn showed up at Winterfell in a crossbow and found the Lannister Brothers in a chamber - How did it make it past the wall?
3.Two huge, fierce aerial creatures and a rider fly right above ships but never spotted the enemy ships until Rheagal was shot out of sky multiple times. - How so?
4. Cersei paid Ser Bronn heavily to kill her two brothers but couldn't command her archers to kill Tyrion right at her doorstep. How?

I very much fancy the plot, the gore and violence and all. It doesn't mean I switch off my brain when I sit behind my screen to see each episode. This is not about a movie not going the way I want. This is about logic and common sense. Maybe you should drop your emotion and don your thinking cap when seeing the next episode.

snowstormm:
Have watched both..but prefer GOT

JUHABACH:
cersei's army was not gravely depleted as you suggest. they had enough as shown to defend king's landing which is danny ' s end game.
why the hell would they not know she could buy mercenaries? she had literally just acquired a freaking gold mine.
euron greyjoy doesn't matter because he's on the sea? really? despite the fact that it's been established since the battle of blackwater as well as in Tyrion ' s plans that the best and only feasible way to take king's landing is from the sea hence the importance of their own alliance with theon's sister.

like I said, complicated plot lines just don't seem to be for you. you should probably stick to vampire diaries or whatever CW is doing these days.

JUHABACH:
1) yep. you clearly just hate game of thrones. poorly developed characters? really? in game of thrones? jaime lannister alone has gone through as much development as Walter white and he isn't even the protagonist. plot holes in game of thrones? please humour me, give me examples.
literally everything you mentioned praising breaking bad is literally ever present in game of thrones. I mean... cinematography? really? it's not even a debate. game of thrones has literally changed the game in terms of how series are to be viewed.
and every character death in game of thrones has so far been necessary to advance the plot and establish one of its prevailing themes that no one is safe.
and how the hell is the dorne storyline a plothole?
your opinion on game of thrones popularity is just that, an opinion.

they both have the same IMBD rating (9.5) meanwhile game of thrones has a higher fresh rating than breaking bad on rotten tomatoes. lol.
breaking bad isn't even the best series of its kind (i.e. drugs). the wire completely out classes it.

breaking bad is merely a great series. game of thrones has transcended that to become a cultural phenomenon world wide.

2) smh. it appears complicated plot lines and character motives are beyond your comprehension. a real shame tbh.

cersei trying to poison her son instead of herself during the battle of black water only goes further to prove MY POINT. stannis was going to win to the best of everyone's knowledge and stannis not only hates the lannisters but was also known for burning his enemies alive. that was her son's fate hence she specifically sought a means to give her son a painless death while risking being burnt alive herself. that is literally the definition of putin family first as she tries to do on a normal day.

and again, an alliance with them is the best move. even jaime could see that. cause if the night king wins, she has lost but if there is an alliance, with her resources, army and weaponry (e.g. dragon fire) they stand a better chance of winning after which she could be in a better position to negotiate as jaime suggested. her refusal to ally herself only works if danny wins which is nigh impossible considering the size of the wight army.

kaboninc:
It still can be defeated

snowstormm:
Euron greyjoy isn't smarter or more skilled than Jon snow....euron is good at fighting in the sea only..he isn't that good on the land...And since dany still has 2 dragons,she will always has advantage over cersei...the dothraki and unsullied are more skilled than lannister army.....And cersei doesn't has skilled fighter like Jon snow,jorah mormont on her side..am sure the hound,beric dondarrion and co might join dany/Jon forces

kaboninc:
This is a better way to critic the movie and not about finding fault.

Well, one act of supernatural display could just turn the tide.

For now, we don't know if Theon Greyjoy is going to be successful. Besides its a big big world and Westeros is but one continent. The Golden Company could be one mercenary. There could be more. As we felt LF was the smartest, Golden Company may not be the finest after all

kaboninc:
If Danny and her crew wins, the whole of the Seven Kingdoms will be theirs. They've conquerd the Night King and will focus all their energy in getting armies. Besides, who wouldn't want to bow to someone who shows a remarkable victory.

You saw how the Dothraki hordes bowed to Danny? Is it that someone can't throw a sword and it hits her?

pu7pl3:
He admitted to the mistake nd gave his reason for it... he just cudnt lie (he made a good point)

Open another thread for breaking bad then

Sultan5:
Erm concerning the build up to the LF scene, lets just agreed to disagree don't want to type more on that.

Like I said Jon was hoping, you know in desperate times hope reign supreme. He was hoping to get an isolated wight and he was lucky enough to succeed on that front but failed to prevent the damn thing from alerting the herd. That was what messed everything up.

I knew what you were against and I said Jon made his choice not to lie and we all have to live with it.

And for your last point, these things are matters of the heart. The man she loved if I can say that was in trouble and could possibly die. Also she knew the importance of the mission, wanted it accomplished and probably wanted to see for herself. And its also possible she just came just to save Mr Friend Zone I think putting all this together would be solid reasons enough.

But she definitely won't just go for sight seeing in the north, just because her crush said she should. She has a war to win, kingdom to conquer and a throne to sit on. Jon knew this thats why he didn't even bother asking. And she didn't even believe the WW existed self, yes she was tempted to but she didn't really. And the raven wasn't from an untrusted source, Jon, Dany and Tyrion are not dumb they would have agreed on a sign, symbol or something to use to verify the source.

kaboninc:
The plan to capture a wight was a very huge risk and the most difficult but still, it was the best decision that could be taken.

They all have a common enemy.

So why waste time, money and other resources fighting one another when the common enemy could just wait and after you are done fighting, he'll come decimate the winner.

Besides, the common enemy has shown not to talk, negotiate or listen to plea. He's only interested in one thing...conquer through death. This is not about money, or gold or riches or pleasure. The Night King doesn't need to have sex before he could reproduce. They do not age. Can only be killed with dragon glass and valerian steel. So what ever the living hopes or desires to have, the Night King and his armies desires the opposite.


Cersei could decide not to join the war, same as Euron because the wight cant swim.

Same was thought that they could not breach the wall. Winterfell and the North would be the first casualty. however, Westeros won't be far on the list.

Now they have a dragon. And what do you think the Night King won't do with his power?

By the way, I have seen other Vikings. But Game of Thrones will for now, be the best epic movie I have ever seen.

JUHABACH:
1) not in the habit of comparing tv series but game of thrones IS better than breaking bad. it is every bit as character and plot driven as breaking bad with far more memorable characters and added epic scenes. lol. not saying vikings isn't a good show but if you are going to compare vikings to the intricate plot that is game of thrones then I guess there was no point trying to reason with you in the first place.

2) smh. cersei is selfish. that's her defining trait. yes, she hate Tyrion and is quite a spiteful woman but she certainly doesn't want to die (which she will if the night king arrives), she doesn't want to lose her power (again which she will if the night king arrives) and most importantly, she doesn't want to lose her only remaining family (jaime) (again which she will if the night king arrives).

these are facts which anyone who has watched game of thrones would know about cersei. she wants her enemies dead but not at her own expense and power and family is everything to her (with the exception being Tyrion whom she has always hated from birth as he "killed" their mother).
Heck Tyrion knew her well enough that he figured out she was pregnant from a vague speech she gave.

everyone who knows cersei knows she is just like her father, acting in what they believe is in the best interest of family.
if anything, cersei's action only goes to show what has been hinted. she is losing her mind similar to the mad king which is why the effort turned out futile. it was however by no means, a bad idea.

JUHABACH:
cersei lost a number of her men but gained the tyrells gold mines and the favour of the iron bank.
it's like you are deliberately ignoring what I m saying. every gain they had made would have been lost and cersei would have the opportunity to strengthen her position.

the dragons aren't really a factor as danny wasn't planning to use them on king's landing which must be conquered to win.

not to mention the wights are an army of at least 100,000 and that's not even raking into account the undead beasts that could wreck havoc (look how much damage a single undead bear caused) and at least one giant as well as powerful wights accompanying the night king. the northmen as stated in the beginning of this season barely have enough men, same as the wildings (most of them died during the battle of the bastards) and the Knights of vale only number a few thousands at best.

EVEN IF danny on her own defeated the night king, her army would most certainly suffer irreparable losses. add the fact that no one in her army has experience fighting in winter and that even if they win, cersei would most certainly be more prepared with a new,more prepped army and morw dragon killing devices and you would come to the same conclusion Tyrion arrived at when cersei refused the alliance, "we are f*ucked"

DonroxyII:
I think due to some "rushing" ... da Na y , some scenes are just poorly conceived ...

GOT S1-3 wouldn't make LF coward like that, he will fight it, LF would even think ahead of his schemes being exposed and would have covered his track with superb excuses and counter claims ..... Alas, LF of season 7 finale fell yakata ....... LF shoulda fall with higher intelligence and strong evidence ...... Arya could be made to re-sneak into his inner closet or use the mask to conduct investigation into LF and unearth evidences that are undeniable ..Everybody leaves one mark or the other while doing shitttss.........
Sansa judging LF is cheap, LF(Master liar) defence was cheap and too easy ..... JS in connection with Arya and Sansa shd be the one judging LF ...... not just Sansa !!!

LF Na badosky Na .... Haba !!.... Na rushing things ooo....


Worst sex build up in GOT is d sex between Jon Snow and Danny ..... I was looking forward to sex between them cuz I know it will happen ...... I thought JS and Danny banging would be the best sex ever in GOT ...... I want it to be strong and filled in a warrior to warrior way, there shd be build up !!!

Other than Khal Drogo, JS was the only man that Danny can't bend anyhow ..... I even think JS is strong willed than Khal Drogo, a beast !!! JS is a Lion in Man's skin .... JS is the perfect mate for Khaleesi and their bond is mightier than NK/Cersie together !!! The sex was trash n short ..... The scene shouldn't have been rushed, they shd have takened it to S9 !!!

I think Tyrion understand the implication of the bond BTW JS n Danny on the Lannisters and who knows the deal he had with Cersie ? ..... Tyrion wud never wants his family to abdicate the iron throne, he may not want Cersie but I think he will defend his heritage .....

JonSnow and Danny has good team to defeat Tyrion sha if e become a trouble !!!

Sultan5:
Oh I have seen Breaking Bad a great series yeah but near perfection I highly doubt that.

Back to the matter the build up to LF death was in no way time wasting. Its was integral cause it showed how well the most cunning character in Game of thrones was Cunned! I mean this was someone who started the war between Starks and Lannisters. So for me it was time well spent.

Tyrion is smart but not perfect. You don't even have to look to that plan to know this. I mean Dany lost The Reach and Dorne because of his plans. Honestly if you ask me she should have taken the Iron throne since to hell with all the winning hearts and mind bullshit. So Tyrion is no braniac his just very smart so no plothole there.

And yea Jon knew the dangers thats why he lead it. His hope was to catch a single wight that was maybe isolated somehow. It wasn't a sure plan yes but he wanted allies he couldn't possibly face it alone he needed help and at the time this was the best option they could come up with so again no plothole here.

Concerning the timeline well alot have been said about it but if you look critically, you can tell its possible. But am not going to go into that if you feel its a plothole then more power to you.

Jon bending the knee or claiming to have done so already might be laughable to you, might have even infuriated Tyrion and many tactically savvy people but it was a matter of choice and love him or hate him thats the one he chose to make.

Phew! I guess thats all. Have a great day ahead

JUHABACH:
*scratching head* the plan was to get cersei's aid and they needed tangible proof for that. Danny was willing to help already but on the condition jon bent the knee. what do you think was the point of tormund s speech to jon about how mance ' s refusal to bend the knee got his people killed?

JUHABACH:
1) the plan to capture the wight was the best plan actually. Danny wants to destroy the wights but also win the 7 kingdoms. without cersei's help it would be nigh impossible to do both. she would lose her armies fighting wights and lose all gains made in the 7 kingdoms.
Jon snow knows how dangerous wights are which is ESPECIALLY the more reason he ought to led the expedition. when embarking on a dangerous mission, you ought to send the one with First hand experience, don't you think?
agree that timeline is rushed though mostly due to shorter episodes and the show being rushed. it hasn't interfered with my enjoyment of the series though.
2) Jon snow bent the knee to danny before the meeting with cersei. as for the issue with his "betrayal" of the wildings, two things;
first, Jon not only swore an oath first as a brother of the nights watch and thus he's priorities lie with them (se reason Sam's father "betrayed" the tyrells even though he was Sworn to them and he's every bit as honour bound as jon) but jon also had a duty to the nights watch member he "killed" in order to infiltrate the wildings.

secondly, unlike cersei who was demanding job's word (i.e. an oath), the wildings simply accepted jon into their ranks assuming he was willing to betray his brothers.

no series is perfect and game of thrones does have its flaws but it's funny you are trying to bring a point of stupid decisions and people acting out of character as a minus for game of thrones yet bring up breaking bad which while an extremely good show was chuck full of said moments among other flaws.

RobinHez:
And then the great javelin master would just throw 2 fingers in the air to smile at a dragon selfie?

kenturkish:
Jon snow deceived the wildlings, cos he was following orders, simple as that.

Sultan5:
How was the LF scene mediocre It seems you guys don't understand the element of surprise at all. Even the strongest armys will crumble if they are attacked with their guard completely down. Abeg correctly analyse something before you yab ham. Do you think the Stark kids were dumb to do it that way or was it just a coincidence. They know how cunning and elusive LF can be so instead they made him feel safe, relax, unguarded and all of a sudden switch the music so fast and in so many ways he couldn't withstand it. This is a practical example of one of the '48 laws of power'.

Concerning the wight it isn't a weak plot its part of the story. It might have not been the best decision but hey! it was the one the very human and imperfect characters made so for Gods sake get over it. Many characters prior to this season have made countless bad decisions do you call that weak plot SMH. If you want a series where the characters make perfect decisions then you should probably create yours and call it Perfection!!!

xtiana01:
Pls how do i get d soft copy of d book?

DonroxyII:
LF murder scene was cheap, as a diplomat and professional liar , there are many ways by which he could twist and turn all the allegations ..... He didn't even fight hard which is unlike LF ...... He was murdered cheaply simply because the producers want him dead !!!

Also, Danny and Jon/Aegon sex scene was too cheap, I expected to see them discussing strategy against NK or the new found alliance with Cersie then GBAM , lips locked while they tear themselves into one another since the chemistry is already there .....

But Jon just entered and there was sex because the producers wants us to see sex scene between Jon and Danny ....

Also, Theon Greyjoy/Reek abi wetin dem dey call am scene was weak, I expected to see much/new found adrenaline , not to get excessively beaten and beaten only for the one that beat him that much to crumble so suddenly just because the producers/Directors wants us to know, he won the duel .....


These guys need to work more harder on some scenes especially the build up, some scenes appear too cheap and it makes intellectual folks lose their taste !!

angels09:
I expect surprises

angels09:
Cersie has lost Jamie hence she is extremely vulnerable... Euron's undoing will be his own nephew and niece